[CTRL] A Good Story

1999-05-12 Thread Bill Richer

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 During the course of World War II, many people gained
fame in one way or another.  One man was Butch O'Hare.  He was a fighter
pilot assigned to an aircraft carrier in the Pacific.  One time his
entire squadron was assigned to fly a particular mission.  After he was
airborne, he looked at his fuel gauge and realized that someone had
forgotten to top off his fuel tank.  Because of this, he would not have
enough fuel to complete his mission and get back to his ship.  His flight
leader told him to leave formation and return.  As he was returning to
the mother ship, he could see a squadron of Japanese Zeroes heading toward
the fleet to attack.  With all the fighter planes gone, the fleet was almost
defenseless.  His was the only opportunity to distract and divert them.

   Single-handedly, he dove into the formation of Japanese planes and
attacked them. The American fighter planes were rigged with cameras, so
that as they flew and fought, pictures were taken so pilots could learn more
about the terrain, enemy maneuvers, etc.  Butch dove at them and shot until
all his ammunition was gone, then he would dive and try to clip off a wing or
tail or anything that would make the enemy planes unfit to fly.  He did
anything he could to keep them from reaching the American ships.

   Finally, the Japanese squadron took off in another direction, and Butch
O'Hare and his fighter, both badly shot up, limped back to the carrier.
He told his story, but not until the film from the camera on his plane was
developed, did they realize the extent he really went to, to protect his
fleet.  He was recognized as a hero and given one of the nations highest
military honors. O'Hare Airport was also named after him.

   Prior to this time in Chicago, there was a man named Easy Eddie.  He was
working for a man you've all heard about, Al Capone.  Al Capone wasn't
famous for anything heroic, but he was notorious for the murders he'd
committed and the illegal things he'd done.  Easy Eddie was Al Capone's
lawyer and he was very good.  In fact, because of his skill, he was able to
keep Al Capone out of jail.

   To show his appreciation, Al Capone paid him very well.  He not
only earned big money, he would get extra things, like a residence that
filled an entire Chicago city block.  The house was fenced, and he had
live-in help and all of the conveniences of the day.

   Easy Eddie had a son.  He loved his son and gave him all the best things
while he was growing up; clothes, cars, and a good education.  And
because he loved his son he tried to teach him right from wrong.  But one
thing he couldn't give his son was a good name, and a good example.

   Easy Eddie decided that this was much more important than all the riches
he had been given.  So, he went to the authorities in order to right the
wrong he had done.  In order to tell the truth, it meant he must testify
against Al Capone, and he knew that Al Capone would do his best to have him
killed.  But he wanted most of all to try to be a good example and to do the
best he could to give back to his son, a good name.  So he testified. Within
the year, he was shot and killed on a lonely street in Chicago.

   This sounds like two unrelated stories.

   But Butch O'Hare was Easy Eddie's son.

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[CTRL] Domestic policy, 2000 and Clinton's Serbian folly

1999-05-15 Thread Bill Richer

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The New Australian


Domestic policy, 2000 and Clinton's Serbian folly


By James Henry
No. 117,   26 April - 2 May 1999

As the Serbian tragedy unfolds and Clinton's miscalculations become more
painfully apparent with each passing day other questions are being raised
about the economic and domestic political consequences of his Balkan
'policies'. Some readers believe that Clinton has become Gore's point man and
that the war will help him promote Gore's electoral prospects. It is also
believed that Clinton can use the war to keep the economy on boil right up to
the 2000 election. One reader colorfully described this policy as "bomb 'em
and feed 'em". Armament factories will be cranked up and food surpluses can
be unloaded on to a hundreds of thousands of grateful refugees and a grateful
electorate will vote Gore president, or some other Democrat.

This is certainly a bleak scenario but one I believe to be totally out of
place. Gore is not a popular politician and it is clear that his campaign,
apart from the fund raising, is doing badly. Regardless of his best efforts
he has not been able to distance himself from the smell of White House
corruption, nor should he be allowed to do so. In addition, there is enough
die-hard green ideology in his book Earth in the Balance to cause him
considerable electoral pain. People closely connected with the Republicans
tell me the Party intends to turn his book into a political millstone. It
certainly wouldn't be too difficult.

Cranking up the armaments industry at this stage would convey the impression
to a very concerned public that Clinton was getting the country into a
lengthy and bloody campaign. This is one impression he is desperate to avoid
giving. There is also the time factor. These factories cannot be turned on
and off like a tap. For example, it would take 18 months to 2 years to get
cruise missile production lines fully operational, not to mention the time
needed to re-man the services and build up combat readiness. As for comparing
Kosovo with Vietnam, I think the appropriate comparison in military terms is
Korea. However, I don't think Kosovo is going to another Korea. The expense
and casualties would destroy the Democratic Party along with Clinton — no bad
thing in my opinion.

The economic angle is certainly erroneous. War materiel is costly.
Implementing a rearmament's program means raising taxes, cutting welfare or
both. Given the present high level of taxes, government spending and the
influence of the welfare lobby the chances of the Democrats rebuilding
America's defenses are slight. All of which is sweet irony. If the Democrats
had maintained the military machine that Clinton inherited and then gutted
and, at the very least, kept spending and taxes at the previous level they
would not be facing this dilemma. Any attempt to fund rearmament out of the
printing press, as was done with the Vietnam War, would meet strong
resistance from Greenspan and particularly the money markets. It is
overlooked by commentators that the Fed is already expanding the money supply
by about 12 per cent a year. The vast majority of people do not realise just
how dangerous for the economy this loose monetary policy really is.

I'm glad to say that this is an extremely dangerous time for Clinton. His
stupidity, corrupt behaviour and craving for a Roosevelt or Truman-like
legacy has led the country into a Balkan folly. He is not likely to find
himself caught between a Kosovo impasse and a recession at home. I do not
know a single stockbroker who thinks the good times will last. Without
exception, they believe that the economy has reached the peak of the business
cycle. It is now, in their opinion, only a matter of time before the downturn
strikes — and that will be before the 2000 election.

Americans are going learn the hard way that character and sound judgement
count in a president. Clinton's lack of both has cost this country dearly and
it has not stopped paying the price in terms of moral capital and economic
welfare. The ultimate price, however, might be measured in body bags. Let us
pray it does not come to that.

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[CTRL] Clinton, Serbia and the corruption of power

1999-05-15 Thread Bill Richer

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The New Australian


Clinton, Serbia and the corruption of power


By James Henry
No 115,  12-18 April 1999

Lord Acton's dictum that power corrupts and absolute power tends to corrupt
absolutely is much quoted. But what happens when power, especially enormous
power, falls into the hands of an already corrupt man? A man that sees power
merely as a means to advance his own interests: to reward sycophants, punish
critics, intimidate potential enemies, buy favours from dictators and even
wage war to enhance his own position regardless of the cost in terms of blood
and misery. Such a man is Clinton. A man with the mentality of a teenage thug
who seems literally incapable of making a genuine moral judgement is
president of the United States. A man whose pathological behavior has rightly
stripped him of all moral authority has declared war on another nation. Do
Americans really believe that such a creature can enoble a cause driven by
the meanest of personal ambition and the desperate psychological need to
politically survive? Do American troops walk tall when they think of their
commander-in-chief? Do the men and women who wear the uniforms of the United
States feel confident that they have a leader who is really concerned about
their welfare? Who feels genuine anxiety at putting their lives in danger.

No. What they see is a man who treats them like cyphers or political pawns
and whose willingness to sacrifice their lives to serve his ends is only
limited by his deep fear of public opinion. He weeps at the thought of body
bags, not because of the tragedy they would represent but because of their
potential to destroy his poll ratings. He treats casualties in the same
manner that television producers treat ratings. As soon as she heard that 17
British soldiers had been ambushed and killed by the IRA, the much maligned
Maggie Thatcher immediately sat at her desk and wrote a personal letter to
each of these men's closest relatives expressing her deepest condolences.
Does anyone imagine Clinton doing that?

There is only one fundamental difference between Milosevic and Clinton: the
former is not a coward while Clinton is — and every American knows it. I
predicted that Milosevic would pursue the simple tactic of sitting tight
while his goon squads made Kosovo an Albanian-free zone and Clinton turned
him into a national hero for standing up to a bully — and Clinton is a bully.
Some have estimated that up to a third of Albanian Kosovars have already been
driven out and that they will soon be followed by many more. This is
basically what the war is supposed to be about. A true NATO victory would
mean these people being able to return to their homes to live without fear of
assault. Not a single NATO general or European politician believes this will
ever be possible. And that is why Milosevic is winning. His sole objective
right now is Kosova. Once that has been achieved what does Clinton intend to
do?

There are no real strategic objectives because there is no real plan so there
can be no real victory. The whole thing is an exercise in political
skin-saving. And I'm talking Clinton's skin. Not a single soul who was
remotely acquainted with the conflict doubted for a moment that the bombing
would provoke the Serbs into redoubling their efforts to drive out their
Albanian neighbors; not out of spite, though that played a role, but in an
effort to beat time. Once the bombing started Milosevic knew that he had to
accelerate his Kosovo policy to deny Clinton an excuse to continue the
campaign. I have been told by those on the spot that they believe Milosevic
will soon achieve his objective.

What then? Will NATO send in ground troops, meaning mainly American boys, to
save Clinton and Blair's pride? I doubt it. No NATO general really wants to
go in with less than 200,000 troops. It would take at least several weeks to
put this force together and form a campaign plan. Before anyone starts
blowing the bugle for the charge, it needs to be pointed out that the Serbian
military remains completely intact, its communications are in perfect working
order and capable of withstanding the severest of assaults, its armour is
unscathed and heavily dug in along with anti-aircraft batteries. Reports are
coming in from refugees and agents that tanks, artillery and rocket launchers
are spread out among the hills looking down on the roads and valley floors.
Tanks are even dug in along roadsides. These activities have been so
professionally carried out that allied aircraft have not detected the
placements. Of course, none of this matters if you think Serbian forces will
simply retreat or surrender.

There is no doubt that NATO would eventually defeat Serbia's main forces but
would it win the war? Its losses would be considerable but to what end? It
could just decide to slice Kosovo off from Serbia but that would be just
creating another time bomb with an even nastier outcome. It could try and
partition Serbia but I suspect 

[CTRL] Kosovo: to which drumbeat do the Democrats march?

1999-05-15 Thread Bill Richer

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The New Australian


Kosovo: to which drumbeat do the Democrats march?


By James Henry
No. 113,   29 March - 4 April 1999

The Balkans is more than a political dog's dinner — it could be dynamite for
the US. The vast majority of Americans cannot distinguish between Balkan and
Baltic. But they soon will. They will also learn why the Balkans were
considered at the turn of the century by sophisticated European politicians
to be the "powder keg" of Europe. It was there that the Great War was ignited
by the assassination of Prince Franz Ferdinand by a Serbian nationalist in
the city of Sarajevo in 1914. Now, as we approach the turning of another
century, the Balkans have once again become a "powder keg" and good ol'
President Bill Clinton (patron saint of draft dodgers) has decided to light
another fuse.

Why? What is it all about? How does Bill's Big Balkan Adventure serve the
interests of Americans, or even most Europeans? The Republican's only support
him out of traditional respect for the presidency, an office that Bill and
his friends cheerfully dragged into the sewer. But why are the Democrats once
again in lockstep with a policy that will bring home body bags for no
apparent good reason? As I pointed out in American liberalism and fifth
columns* the Democrats now support interventionist policies that guarantee
casualties and huge costs in materiel without any gain for the American
people. When Reagan funded anti-Marxist groups struggling to overthrow
pro-Soviet regimes he was accused by Democrats of interfering in these
states' internal affairs, even though these states intended to spread
revolution right up to the Rio Grande. Now that's what I call an American
interest. Yet they ridiculed Reagan when he pointed this out. And that is my
basic point. It is because this action does not serve US security interests
that these Democrats support it. The same Democrats who attacked operation
Desert Storm.

A Democratic administration involved the US in Vietnam for the noblest of
reasons. The same will never be said of US actions in Serbia. Many left-wing
Democrats in the Senate and Congress see intervention in Bosnia as a moral
crusade and that is why they are so willing to send American troops and
pilots into combat in Bosnia and Serbia. Naturally, these politicians are not
so morally committed as to volunteer for combat themselves. They've got dumb
patriotic Americans to do that for them. The kind that respect the flag and
the Constitution and all that they stand for.

I began with the statement that the Balkan's are more than political dog's
dinner. Even that is an understatement. The region's ancient hatreds, blood
feuds, religious and ethnic conflicts go back centuries, even before the
Turkish conquest, and they are not going to be resolved by NATO bombings. The
region was the last genuine Turkish outpost in Europe until the 1878 Congress
of Berlin saw the virtual annexation of Bosnia-Herzegovina by the
Austro-Hungarian Empire, despite the Kingdom of Serbia's historical claim to
the area. That was 121 years ago. The Austro-Hungarian Empire has gone, along
with the Habsburgs, but NATO has arrived instead. NATO is a defensive
organisation: it has no business becoming involved in military conflicts
unless those conflicts present a clear danger to any member of the Alliance.
The Balkans do not. They are what they have been for centuries — a
long-running European tragedy and a boil on the backside of Europe. Well now
that it has been lanced, maybe we should let the political puss drain away,
brutal as that sounds, while doing everything in our power to alleviate the
pain. What we cannot do is occupy the place or change the inhabitants'
thinking. Moreover, NATO has violated its own charter which only sanctions
force if a member is attacked. (I emphasise is because Bill has difficulty in
understanding its grammatical function).

I have not argued the rights and wrongs of the conflicts because I don't know
what they are. And if I did, I don't see how we could fix them anyway. It's
true that terrible crimes have been committed. But crimes on a much vaster
scale have been committed elsewhere, and still are, without us being called
in. So what are the Democrat's left-wingers playing at? What is it about
Serbia, but not North Korea or Beijing, they find particularly repulsive? I
reckon I've got the answer. Milosevic looks, sounds and acts like a
right-wing thug. As one 'activist' (meaning left-wing) Democrat said to me:
"He's nothing but a fascist."

To these American Leftists there is something cathartic and vicarious about
bombing Belgrade — morality hasn't got a damn thing to do with it. It's all
about satisfying their ideological fantasies about fascism. Too yellow to
fight themselves, they'll see it live — care of the Turner/Fonda network — as
GIs risk their lives to do their ideological dirty work for them. And for
this young American men and women could die. These are the very same people

[CTRL] American liberalism and fifth columns

1999-05-15 Thread Bill Richer

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American liberalism and fifth columns


By James Henry
No. 111,   8-14 March 1999

Many Americans are complaining about the use of US troops in places like
Kosovo, Macedonia, Bosnia, Somalia, etc. What these critics have missed is
that it is a liberal president who sent them there and did so with the
support of liberal-minded Congressmen and Senators. This fact is vitally
important because it gives us a clue as to what is really going on here. If
we examine the 1972 George McGovern presidential campaign we find that it
provided the means by which those who are deeply hostile to American values
and contemptuous of its history and traditions were able to worm their way
into mainstream politics. It is now their ideological values that dominate
the Democratic Party whose only genuine resemblance to the party of Truman
and Kennedy is in name only.

These are the people who supported Hanoi's conquest of South Vietnam and who
broke a solemn pledge to supply Saigon with the means to protect itself
against communist aggression. These are same liberals whose political
treachery made Pol Pot's murderous regime possible. The same ones who opposed
the Reagan military build up that finally broke the back of the Soviet
Empire. And did they not also condemn operation Desert Storm? Didn't these
very people oppose every initiative and action that curtailed Soviet
expansion? Aren't these the people who supported the Marxist Sandinista's and
still rationalise Castro's regime? Yet they now callously put at risk the
lives of American troops in places that do not in anyway serve American
interests. Why?

Perhaps all of this will confuse some readers. Maybe they will put it down to
left-wing inconsistency or hypocrisy. They would be wrong because there is a
very definite pattern here. Every policy these left-wing Senators and
Congressmen (I will now refer to liberals as left-wing) strenuously opposed
was designed to promote American interests. Every military policy they now
support is not only unrelated to American interests they actually endanger
them by unnecessarily making enemies. They broke the agreement with Saigon
because it was in the interest of American and its allies to prevent a
communist victory. On the other hand, they strongly support and defend
treaties that violate US sovereignty and endanger national security.

Now we have it — no conspiracy but a deep rooted hatred of America. To them,
America is a racist, sexist, oppressive and exploitative capitalist state.
Therefore, because it is unjust and aggressive, actions, treaties and
agreements that serve its interests must be unjust by definition and
therefore need to be resisted. Breaking the agreement with Saigon which put
the South Vietnamese under communist tyranny was just because the North was a
socialist state. This is what Tom Hayden thought and it is what he still
thinks. And what happened to Hayden? He got himself a Senate seat in
California. Has he changed his views? Of course not. But Hayden is but one of
many. There is Henry Waxman of Hollywood, Maxine Waters of California, Rep.
Peter DeFazio of Oregon, Rep. Cynthia McKinney of Georgia, Rep. Major Owens
of New York, Rep. Lane Evans of Illinois. What these members of Congress have
in common is their open connection with the Democratic Socialists of America.
Former Congressman Ron Dellums is still asssociated with the organisation).**
These are the people people who would send your sons and daughters to a
Bosnia or a Kosovo while voting against a missile defence system. Why?
Because the former does not serve US interests while the latter does.

Recent events have clearly demonstrated that the majority of Democratic
Senators and members of Congress are to varying degrees within the Waxman
socialist camp. This is the real problem. Not conspiracy but ideology. So why
don't Republicans attack these people's socialist views and expose them to
the American public? Because they fear the media's smear machine. They know
the Democrats' media storm troopers would immediately leap into action with
screams of "McCarthyism", "reds under the beds", "political persecution",
etc, because the media itself is basically left-wing.

Between 1979 and 1980 S. Robert Lichter and Stanley Rothman interviewed 240
journalists employed by the country's leading media outlets. Less than 20 per
cent had ever voted Republican and 56 per cent honestly believed that America
exploited the Third World and was the cause of its poverty. Since then things
have only gotten worse. In April last year the Freedom Forum released a
nationwide survey conducted by the Roper Organization which showed that 89
per cent of all journalists had voted for Clinton and that only 4 per cent
are Republicans. Not only that, 96 per cent of these journalists thought it
was their role to 'educate' the public rather than simply report the news.

Now you know why the media covered up for Clinton and supports military
intervention in areas that are 

[CTRL] Is Clinton Worth dying for?

1999-05-15 Thread Bill Richer

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The New Australian


Is Clinton Worth dying for?


By James Henry
No. 116,   19-25 April 1999

What is the US really doing in the Balkans? This is a question that millions
of Americans are now beginning to ask in earnest. Unfortunately, most of them
seem to be arriving at the wrong conclusion. Continually fed stories of
Serbian atrocities, supported by hours of television footage of thousands of
Kosovars forced to abandon their homes, it has been all too easy for
Americans to assume that their government is engaged on a humanitarian
mission. What has not sunk in as yet is the fact that America is at war — and
it is a war — not merely to save Clinton's political skin by driving his
scandals of the front pages but to supply him with the kind of legacy for
which he desperately craves. A legacy that in his own mind would portray him
as a great leader if not actually a hero.

None of this is based on Clinton-hating paranoia (I don't hate the man at all
— I just despise him) but on observation. The manner in which he has climbed
to the top, his betrayal of friends and his country's national interests, his
corruption and compulsive lying, his contempt for the rights and interests of
others, his vindictiveness and spite all indicate a personality that
literally cannot empathasise with others, who merely sees people as pawns.
Such a personality would have no moral qualms about endangering the lives
thousands of US troops if it thought it would promote its ambitions.

And what is Bill Clinton's chief ambition? In his book Agenda Bob Woodward
relates the tale of Clinton telling his aides how he would have liked to have
been president during WW II. This is a chilling and revealing insight into
Clinton's state of mind. No sensible and humane man really wants to lead his
country into war. He does so out of perceived necessity and nothing else. War
means that leaders have to make awful decisions that involve the loss of
thousands of lives. Churchill, for example, knew that Coventry was going to
be bombed and yet he took no measures to prevent it. Why? Because that would
have told Berlin that the British had cracked their codes. Does anyone think
he enjoyed making this decision? What kind of man wants to put himself in a
position where he has to make life and death decisions for thousands because
he thinks it will make him look good? A man like Clinton, that's who.

What does he crave? The kind of legacy that the Churchills of history
bequeath their countries. Clinton believed that Kosova offered him such a
legacy on the cheap. The none-too-bright Albright assured him that Milosevic
would quickly surrender to an aerial assault and thus allow NATO, meaning
Clinton, to dictate terms to Milosevic. In this fantasy, Clinton emerges
smelling like roses, a genuine leader who humbles his critics, despatches his
scandals and establishes a legacy worthy of a national hero. Who knows, maybe
even Mount Rushmore figures in his dream.

However, Clinton's dream is in very real danger of turning into a military
and political nightmare for the nation. Elsewhere I wrote that Clinton's
actions risked "triggering uncontrollable forces" and that "any Serbian
leader who gave up Kosovo might as well commit suicide."* I also pointed out
that Milosevic would sit tight while accelerating the drive against Kosovo
Albanians. This is precisely what he did. How did I know? Because Clinton
gave him no choice, unless you consider suicide a choice.

Milosevic knew that the aerial attack would be spearheaded by cruise
missiles. He also knew, as would anybody who read an American paper or
watched CNN, how many cruise missiles the US had in stock. Well, it is now
believed that the cruise inventory may have dropped below 100 because, thanks
to Clinton's gutting of the military, there are no cruise missile production
lines in operation. This means that low flying aircraft will eventually have
to replace them. Something else I pointed out. To make it worse, the risible
'strategy' of using bombing to 'degrade' Serbia's military facilities and
logistics have been a dismal failure. After more than 4000 sorties
intelligence believes these facilities still largely remain unscathed. Why?
Because the important fixed positions are underground, where they have been
for 50 years, while mobile units, including hundreds of tanks and
ground-to-air missile batteries, remain intact.

So Serbian forces still have anti-aircraft missile batteries, thousands of
anti-aircraft guns, not to mention several hundred shoulder-launched
anti-aircraft missiles. Does General Wesley Clark know this? Of course he
does and this is why, in my opinion, the pentagon is not releasing battle
damage assessments. Clark knew from the beginning of the campaign it would
fail to severely damage the Serb military because it had prepared itself
decades ago for a massive assault. Only then, the expected enemy was Moscow.
Very sensibly, the Serbs have pursued the

[CTRL] Treason in the U.S. Senate

1999-05-15 Thread Bill Richer

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Treason in the U.S. Senate; Republicans Vote for Gun Control
-- Sen. Smith and Enzi stand alone in defending 2nd Amendment

Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert
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ACTION:  Fax or e-mail Senator Bob Smith (R-NH) and thank him for
defending your rights (fax: 202-224-1353; e-mail:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]).  Residents of Wyoming should also thank
Senator Mike Enzi (R-WY) for standing in support of the Second
Amendment (fax: 202-228-0359; e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]).
These two men are sure to be attacked for the courage of their
no-compromise position.  Be sure to look to the bottom of the page
for some talking points for your Senators.

   (Friday, May 14, 1999) -- With anti-gun Democrats on the
offensive, Republicans yesterday retreated and gave up significant
2nd Amendment ground.  On two separate occasions, scores of
Republicans crossed party lines to support gun control proposals.
And on a third vote, several Republicans crossed over to give
anti-gun Senators Schumer and Feinstein a victory in their efforts
to ban the importation of high-capacity magazines.  The words "shall
not be infringed"-- the unmistakably clear language of the 2nd
Amendment-- were repeatedly ignored.

Bob Smith  Mike Enzi Stand Alone in Opposing Gun Bans and
Registration; Alone in Opposing Chuck Schumer

   * Young Adult Gun Ban.  This ban, which passed 96-2, could
severely punish parents who allowed their kids to even touch a
so-called semi-automatic "assault weapon."   [Senators Bob Smith and
Mike Enzi voted 'NO,' while Sen. Inouye (HI) and Moynihan (NY) were
absent yesterday.]  While the amendment allows for certain
exemptions, there are some imponderable questions which NO senator
could answer, but which a parent would have to answer in order to
avoid incarceration.

   For example:  What is a "semiautomatic assault weapon"?  The
definition-- plus exemptions-- takes up six pages of fine type in
the U.S. Code.  It is fairly easy for a gun manufacturer to
determine what firearms he may or may not manufacture.  It is
considerably harder for a gun collector to determine which of the
firearms already in his collection are "semiautomatic assault
weapons" and which are not.

   Second, a child can handle a banned semi-auto if he is in the
"immediate and supervisory presence" of a parent or if he possess a
written permission slip from the parent.  But what happens when,
during a target practice session, the parent walks to the car to
retrieve more ammunition and the juvenile is no longer in the
parent's "immediate" presence and he does not have a permission
slip?  A parent can receive 20 years in jail for this infraction.
This will never happen, you say?  Just ask Randy Weaver how an
arcane law involving a mere possession infraction can affect one's
life.

   * Instant Registration Checks.  The Senate voted 94-3 to allow
this amendment to proceed.  (Senators Inhofe (R-OK), Smith (NH) and
Enzi (WY) were the only ones voting right.)  This amendment will
force the instant registration check system upon gun sales that
occur between PRIVATE sellers and PRIVATE buyers at gun shows.

   The number one danger here-- besides being an infringement of the
2nd Amendment-- is the threat of gun owner registration.  According
to government studies from 1989 onwards, any background check can
lead to registration, despite legal prohibitions.  If this provision
becomes law, expect anti-gunners to start complaining about the next
Brady "loophole"-- that is, private individuals buying and selling
guns outside of a gun show (say, in a home) without a background
check.  By closing all the "loopholes," gun grabbers can thereby
register ALL gun owners in America.

   * Republicans Preemptively Surrender to Chuck Schumer.
Republican Sen. John Ashcroft (MO) introduced the young adult gun
ban, while four other Republicans [Hatch (UT), Craig (ID), McCain
(AZ) and Gordon Smith (OR)] sponsored the amendment requiring
background checks at gun shows.  But Republicans weren't the only
force in town trying to appease the Democrats.  The Associated Press
reported that "Craig, a member of the National Rifle Association
board of directors, said the organization had 'grudgingly' agreed"
to the gun show amendment.

Republicans Cave in and Help Feinstein Ban Self-defense Ammunition
Clips

   By a voice vote, the Senate yesterday voted to ban the
importation of magazines holding more than 10 rounds.  (Earlier, the
Senate defeated a motion to kill the amendment by a vote of 59-39.)
While anti-gun Senators claimed these magazines were impractical for
"hunting," they dared not discuss the positive self-defense benefits
of these magazines-- like how such clips gave the Korean merchants
in Los Angeles the needed firepower to fend off rioters in 1992 when
the police were retreating from the riot-torn areas of the city.

   Republicans who sold out on the 

[CTRL] Medical Alert for Women

1999-05-15 Thread Bill Richer

 -Caveat Lector-

** i received this from a friend, who had a friend who sent it to him...
passing this very interesting and important information on to all of you!
  and also to the men who will need to know about it for their loved ones.
   Linda



 FOR ALL WOMEN!! PLEASE READ

As all of you know, I have Primary Peritoneal Cancer. This cancer has only
recently been identified as its OWN type of cancer; but it is, essentially,
Ovarian Cancer. Both types of cancer are diagnosed in the same way (with the
"tumor marker" CA-125 blood test), and they are treated in the same way
(surgery to remove the primary tumor and then chemotherapy with Taxol and
Carboplatin).

Having gone through this ordeal, I want to save others from the same fate.
That is why I am sending this message to you and hope you will print it and
give it or send it via e-mail to everybody you know. One thing I have learned
is that each of us must take TOTAL responsibility for our own health care. I
thought I had done that because I always had an annual physical, had my
annual mammogram and PAP smear, did monthly Self Breast Exam, went to the
dentist at least twice/year, etc. I even insisted on a moidoscopy and a bone
density test last year. When I had a total hysterectomy in 1993, I thought
that I did not have to worry about getting any of the female reproductive
organ cancers.

LITTLE DID I KNOW! I don't have ovaries (and they were HEALTHY when they
were removed!), but I have what is essentially ovarian cancer. Strange, isn't
it?  These are just SOME of the things our Doctors never tell us.  ONE
OUT OF EVERY 55 WOMEN WILL GET OVARIAN OR PRIMARY PERITONEAL
CANCER! THE "CLASSIC" SYMPTOMS ARE AN ABDOMEN THAT RATHER SUDDENLY ENLARGES
AND CONSTIPATION AND/OR DIARRHEA.  I had these classic symptoms and went to
the Doctor. Because these symptoms seemed to be "abdominal," I went to a
gastroenterologist. He ran tests that were designed to
determine whether there was a bacterial infection; these tests were negative,
and I was diagnosed with "Irritable Bowel Syndrome."  I guess I would have
accepted this diagnosis had it not been for my enlarged  abdomen. I swear to
you, it looked like I was 4-5 months pregnant! I, therefore, insisted on more
tests. They took an x ray of my abdomen; it was negative. I was, again,
assured that I had
Irritable Bowel Syndrome and was encouraged to go on my scheduled month-long
trip to Europe. I couldn't wear  any of my slacks or shorts because I
couldn't get them buttoned, and I KNEW something was radically wrong. I
INSISTED on more tests, and they  (reluctantly) scheduled me for a
CT-Scan(just to shut me up, I think). This is what I mean by taking charge of
our own health care. The CT-Scan showed a lot of fluid in my abdomen (NOT
normal!). Needless to say, I had to cancel my trip and have FIVE POUNDS of
fluid drawn off at the hospital (not a
pleasant procedure, I assure you, but NOTHING compared to what was ahead of
me). Tests revealed cancer cells in the fluid.

Finally, finally, finally, the Doctor ran a CA-125 blood test and I was
properly diagnosed.  I HAD THE CLASSIC SYMPTOMS FOR OVARIAN CANCER AND, YET,
THIS SIMPLE CA-125 BLOOD TEST HAD NEVER BEEN RUN ON ME ... NOT AS PART OF MY
ANNUAL PHYSICAL EXAM AND NOT WHEN I WAS SYMPTOMATIC. THIS IS AN INEXPENSIVE
AND SIMPLE BLOOD TEST!!!  PLEASE, PLEASE, P-L-E-A-S-E TELL ALL YOUR FEMALE
FRIENDS AND
RELATIVES TO INSIST ON A CA-125 BLOOD TEST EVERY YEAR AS PART OF THEIR ANNUAL
PHYSICAL EXAMS. BE FOREWARNED THAT THEIR DOCTORS
MIGHT TRY TO TALK THEM OUT OF IT, SAYING "IT ISN'T NECESSARY." BELIEVE ME,
HAD I KNOWN THEN WHAT I KNOW NOW, WE WOULD HAVE CAUGHT MY CANCER MUCH EARLIER
(BEFORE IT WAS A STAGE 3 CANCER)!!! INSIST ON THE CA-125 BLOOD TEST; DON'T
TAKE "NO" FOR AN ANSWER. THE NORMAL RANGE FOR A CA-125 BLOOD TEST IS BETWEEN
ZERO AND 35. (MINE WAS 754 ... THAT'S RIGHT, 754!) IF THE NUMBER IS
SLIGHTLY ELEVATED, YOU CAN HAVE ANOTHER ONE DONE IN THREE OR SIX MONTHS AND
KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON IT JUST LIKE WOMEN DO WHEN THEY HAVE FIBROID TUMORS OR
WHEN MEN HAVE A SLIGHTLY ELEVATED PSA TEST (PROSTATE SPECIFIC ANTIGENS) THAT
HELPS
DIAGNOSE PROSTATE CANCER.  HAVING THE CA-125 TEST DONE ANNUALLY CAN ALERT YOU
EARLY, AND THAT'S THE GOAL IN DIAGNOSING ANY TYPE OF CANCER- CATCH IT EARLY.

 I hope I haven't bored you with all of this. But I hope I HAVE scared you
enough to motivate you to action. Do YOU know 55 women? If so, at least one
of them will have this VERY AGGRESSIVE cancer-and maybe, just maybe, it will
be YOU. I hope not. Please, go to your Doctor THIS WEEK and insist on a
CA-125 test and have one EVERY YEAR for the rest of your life. And forward
this message to every
woman you know and tell all of your female family members and friends.As
the Nike ads say, "JUST DO IT!"  Please don't think youth will protect you,
either. Though the median age for this cancer is 56 (and, guess what, I'm
exactly 56),
women as young as 22 have it. Age is not a factor.

Thank 

[CTRL] A Vet's Letter to Prez

1999-05-17 Thread Bill Richer

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ALLVETS INC.
PO BOX 561
OLIVIA, NC 28368

ALLVETS EXPRESSING THEIR SOLIDARITY FOR ALL VETERANS

(919)498-1180
 FAX (978) 389-2419


http://welcome.to/Allvets
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Mr. President, Honorable Congresspersons and Senators:

  For 52 days now we the American people and veterans of the United States
have sat and listen to the reason for the bombing in Yugoslavia, I must tell
you now that the use of the words Ethnic Cleansing have completely lost there
meaning. I for one Mr. President even doubt that you understand the meaning
or ever did, you have done more now then Milosevic had ever hoped to do in
destruction, you are destroying a country, no matter the name or cause you
wish to call it.  What Mr. President are the Albanians going to return to?
NATO and yourself keep saying the bombing will continue until all Albanians
are allowed to return home safely, to what may I ask, flatten homes, no
conveniences such as water, toilet facilities or ways to keep warm, no food,
hospitals or doctors, under constant guard by NATO troops for the rest of
their lives.

  I'm sorry Mr. President we are not solving the problems we are adding to
them and the price tag will be carried by every citizen of the United States
now and for our children's children far into the future, not only will this
price tag involve money it will involve American lives. That brings me to my
next point, what of those Americans that are wounded and need care, will you
utter the same phrase as you did when those young men were captured, "America
takes care of her own," have you sir and the rest of our elected officials
figured out what that means yet. It does not mean for your appointed yes man
Mr. Togo West and the Department of Veteran Affairs and yourself to allow
veterans of yesterday to die to make room for tomorrow's veterans.


  Everyday I receive mail on how the Department of Veteran Affairs has
screwed up, a Department that has no one to answer to by the way, such as
lost mail so claims have not been completed for years and all the veteran
gets is an apology while he falls asleep in a box under a bridge, records
burned in fires that never happened so a veterans claims can be denied,
veterans turned away because the work load is to large, disability money
given to unfaithful spouses by a justice system that has also lost the
meaning of the word, misdiagnosis of patients, experimentation against
veterans wishes, does this not fall under your definition of Ethnic
Cleansing?  There are over 8,000 layoffs pending in the Department of
Veterans Affairs while Mr. Togo's new car awaits him in the parking garage, I
forgot, paid for by whom?

  Mr. President and all of our elected officials you claim to understand the
meaning of human rights and are first to condemn other countries for their
lack of it. Please then, will one of you out there answer this for me.

  Why in Big Mountain Arizona, Indian reservation are federal police
officer's there? Why are the Native Americans elders of the Navajo tribe
being made to live in homes with no roof's on them? Why has the water been
turned off? Why has the government made it against the law to cut wood to
heat with? Why must Native Americans first be issued a permit to practice
their religion?  Does this not meet your definition of Ethnic Cleansing? Or
at the very least go against all the meaning of Human Rights?  In case you
forgot, many Native Americans fought and died for this country and are still
doing so.

  Mr. President, the other day you saw fit to explain your actions in Kosovo
to two hundred members of the VFW, I ask you and not just you alone but all
elected officials, why will you not speak to one hundred thousand veterans or
more on Saturday, May 29, 1999, in Washington Memorial Park. Could it be your
are afraid? Could it be you cannot look that many Veterans in the eye at one
time and lie to their faces again? Must you always have a hand picked crowd
to put your spin on. Why have you told the media to stay away, does the truth
scare all of you that much or is it the fact that the other 99% of this
countries veterans know the true meaning of what is behind those smiles of
yours.  Let us not forget our friends the media while were talking facts, we
know they are in the hip pocket of the government, the treatment in this
country of the Native American and the Veteran is not news for them, many
letters have been written and ignored, they would rather blast another
country for their treatment of their people then to look at home for the
mistreatment of ours, they did a nice interview of the first lady at CNN on
the hardship of the Albanians in the refugee camps, why does she and CNN not
do an interview with the elders of the Navajo at Big Sky Arizona, is it
because your administration may be compared to Mr. Milosevic in this
particular instance.

  I again ask you Mr. President, Congressmen, Senators and 

[CTRL] FOUR REASONS WE MAY SEE NUCLEAR WAR IN 1999

1999-05-19 Thread Bill Richer

 -Caveat Lector-

FOUR REASONS WE MAY SEE NUCLEAR WAR IN 1999
By Carol Moore


U.S./NATO LEADER “WAGS THE DOG”
 During 1998 President Clinton threatened or ordered bombing attacks on
Iraq, Sudan and Afghanistan that coincided with initial allegations of
adultery, his admission of adultery, the House of Representatives’ vote on
impeachment and the televising of Juanita Broaddrick’s credible allegation
that Arkansas Attorney General Bill Clinton raped her in 1978.  Although
Clinton escaped impeachment, he continues to face jeopardy: leaked FBI files
that he had raped three other women and assaulted a number of others;
reporters hounding these women to speak out; federal investigators
interrogating former Clinton business partners and Chinese government-linked
campaign contributors; a forthcoming Congressional report on Clinton’s laxity
in stopping Chinese government spying at U.S. weapons facilities; reports
that Clinton allowed China to legally import nuclear weapons manufacture
equipment.
  Clinton doubtless saw  a double benefit in warring against Serbia’s
Slobodan Milosevic–he could distract the press and public from his scandals
and create the historical legacy of a great leader in wartime. Despite
military and CIA warnings that bombing Serbia would drive Serbs to expel
hundreds of thousands of Albanians from Kosovo and kill thousands more,
Clinton ordered the bombing.  Serbia responded as predicted. Yet most Clinton
news stories now focus on his role as military leader of the humanitarian
effort to help Kosovo’s Albanians.  Clinton’s wagging the dog has
destabilized the area and enraged Russia, which still has 6000 plus nuclear
weapons, mostly pointed at the U.S.  Wars have a habit of escalating faster
than their participants planned or anticipated.  Clinton’s habit of wagging
the dog could escalate to worldwide nuclear war within a few short weeks.

RUSSIAN ECONOMIC, POLITICAL AND MILITARY PROBLEMS
The Russian economy is a shambles, dominated by a few
politically-adroit bankers and a huge class of criminals who plague honest
businesses; government, businesses and individuals rely heavily on bartering
goods and services.   Government services regularly fail to pay employees,
pensioners, military officers and conscripts–even those who control its
nuclear weapons.  Russia’s conventional forces and weapons are deteriorating
and its armies are poor and hungry; only its massive arsenal of 6000 plus
nuclear weapons poised for delivery gives it military credibility.  (The U.S.
has over 8000 nuclear weapons.)
   The Russian people have been infuriated by NATO attacks on their
longtime friend and ally Yugoslavia.  Thousands have demonstrated in the
streets; one group attempted to launch a grenade attack against the American
embassy.  Russia is promising humanitarian aid to Serbia and sending a spy
ship to the Adriatic ocean off Albania. Russians are volunteering to fight on
the Serbs’ side.  Rumors that Russia will send Serbia weapons abound.
Russian Premier Boris Yeltsin has threatened to re-target nuclear weapons on
Europe, brought out plans for battlefield nuclear weapons and repeatedly
warned of the possibility of world war.  Russian, China, India and other
nations are discussing banding together against the U.S. and NATO in new
security alliances.
Authoritarian and ultra-nationalist leaders, both communist and
fascist, promise Russians that if elected in the year 2000 they will right
the economy and punish NATO and U.S. aggressors.  This forces Russia’s
current leaders to take a strong stand.

U.S. AND RUSSIAN NEAR-ACCIDENTAL NUCLEAR WARS
 The U.S. and Russia both have a nuclear policy of “launch on
warning.”  This means that less than 15 minutes after detecting a possible
missile attack, their militaries must launch all 14000 nuclear weapons or
possibly loose them to a first strike by the other side.  U.S. leaders have
less than 15 minutes to decide if satellites and warning systems are
detecting a real attack or merely detecting an innocent phenomena, including
a minor glitch in one of hundreds of computers or thousands of software
programs. As we shall see, Russian leaders have even less time.  (China has
nuclear weapons but does not have launch on warning.)
In the last 30 years there have been several incidents which would
have led to nuclear war had not clear thinking human beings decided the
warning systems were in error.  In 1979 a nuclear war simulation tape in a
NORAD computer was interpreted to be a real nuclear attack and for 6 minutes
emergency preparations for nuclear retaliation were made until the error was
discovered.  In 1980 a flawed 64-cent chip in telephone switching hardware at
NORAD started sending alarming messages to U.S. command centers that a
nuclear attack was under way. Defense Department memoranda and a General
Accounting Office report have described numerous data, equipment, and
software errors in missile warning systems over the 

[CTRL] LAWMAKER: HOLD ANTHRAX SHOTS - REPORTS OF SQUALENE ANTIBODIES

1999-05-19 Thread Bill Richer

 -Caveat Lector-

••SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!••
LAWMAKER: HOLD ANTHRAX SHOTS - REPORTS OF SQUALENE ANTIBODIES IN GULF WAR
VETERANS CITED
By Deborah Funk, Marine Times: 05-10-99
   A North Carolina congressman has asked the Pentagon to stop immunizing
service members against anthrax until defense officials conduct a "more
thorough examination" of possible side effects.
   Rep. Walter B. Jones, R-N.C., pointed to reports that independent
researchers have found evidence of squalene antibodies in sick Gulf War
veterans, including those who did not deploy.
   Scientists have been experimenting with squalene -- a substance found
naturally in shark and human livers -- to see if it can boost the
effectiveness of vaccines by improving the body's immune response. It hasn't
been licensed for general use by the Food and Drug Administration.
   The body produces antibodies to neutralize toxins, proteins and other
substances, which is how the body develops immunity.
   The presence of squalene antibodies in Persian Gulf War veterans indicates
they came in contact with squalene somehow, but the Defense Department says
it wasn't part of the anthrax vaccine given to Gulf War vets.
   Congress asked the General Accounting Office to look into the matter, but
investigators couldn't determine whether Gulf War veterans were given
vaccines containing squalene. GAO recommended the Defense Department test
veterans for squalene antibodies to determine the extent of their presence
and whether they are a factor in Gulf War illnesses.
   But Pentagon officials declined, saying they would wait until the
researchers' work is published in a scientific journal before considering
whether to test veterans.
   In a letter to Defense Secretary William S. Cohen, Jones urged the
department to test the veterans now and suspend the anthrax vaccination
program until possible health risks are ruled out.
   Jones said he understands the importance of protecting troops against
biological warfare. But, he said, "I am concerned the department may be
moving ahead with implementation of an anthrax vaccine program prior to
conducting the full range of scientific and medical tests necessary to
appropriately reduce the risks of unintended health consequences for those
required to receive the inoculation. ...
   "I urge you to impose a moratorium on involuntary anthrax vaccinations
until a more thorough examination of the connection between previous
vaccinations and adverse health effects has been completed," Jones wrote.
   Pentagon spokesman Kenneth Bacon said the anthrax vaccine has been
licensed for nearly 30 years with a solid safety record.
   "The question one has to ask is what would happen if there were an anthrax
attack and we hadn't taken precautionary measures to protect our troops,"
Bacon said.
   The only times the Defense Department has used squalene in vaccines given
to people were in five tightly controlled, voluntary clinical trials, three
for malaria and two for HIV vaccines, a Pentagon spokesman said.
   Military researchers used squalene as a vaccine-enhancer in several
studies involving animals, the spokesman said. The anthrax vaccine was one of
those tested.
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[CTRL] Lott calls China report 'scary'

1999-05-20 Thread Bill Richer

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Lott calls China report 'scary'

Thursday, 20 May 1999 20:07 (GMT)

(UPI Spotlight)
Lott calls China report 'scary'
   WASHINGTON, May 20 (UPI) - Senate Republican Leader Trent Lott says
(Thursday) a House committee's report on possible spying by China on U.
S. government and industry details what could be "the biggest breach of
national security in our lifetimes." Lott and other senators were
briefed on the report in a bipartisan meeting Wednesday, and Lott said,
"The hair stood up on the back of my neck, because it's scary."

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[CTRL] Senate Republicans Join Clinton in Sacking Gun Owners

1999-05-22 Thread Bill Richer

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(Note:There will come a time when this Congress and President go over the
line and destroy the 1st  2nd Amendments.  When that time comes, they surely
have declared war on America and have become seditionists from within and no
longer deserve any American's respect. (What little respect they have now)
When this line is drawn its time to fight!  The laws they are passing against
guns now are unconstitutional no matter what judge says they are
constitutional.  For the judges and lawmakers who take away are rights have
no business being in office.They are all traitors and seditionists from
within. - Bill)


Senate Republicans Join Clinton in Sacking Gun Owners
-- Send your strongly-worded comments to top Republicans

Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org


(Friday, May 21, 1999)-- On May 19, Senate Democratic leader Tom
Daschle (SD) said, "There may not be much difference between
Democrats and Republicans anymore." Gun owners need to let the above
words sink in.  It remains to be seen if Republicans in the House
show more spine than their Senate counterparts.  In the Senate,
Daschle made the comment as he reflected on the Republican
"concessions and reversals on guns in the past week."  Not much
difference indeed.

Led by high-ranking Republicans such as Majority Leader Trent Lott
(MS) and Judiciary Chairman Orrin Hatch (OR), thirty-one Republicans
voted with the Democrats to pass a crime bill that was loaded with
gun rights restrictions:

   * Private sales at gun shows will be BANNED unless the buyer
submits to a background registration check;
   * Dealers who sell handguns will be forced to include "lock up
your safety" devices with every handgun sold, and gun owners are now
encouraged to "lock up their safety" or else face the possibility
they could be liable in court if another person steals their gun and
misuses the firearm;
   * A ban on the further importation of ANY magazine that holds
over 10 rounds; and
   * A various assortment of other anti-gun provisions, including, a
ban on the mere possession of certain firearms by young adults,
massive increases in funding for the BATF, and more.

[Readers should also check the GOA web page next week for a final
compilation and more detailed analysis of everything that passed the
Senate.]

What's the difference? One day after the Republicans handed
President Clinton and Sarah Brady an incredible media relations
victory, many gun owners have publicly been asking:  If there's not
much difference between the two parties on Capitol Hill, then why
should I make a distinction between the two parties at the ballot
box.

Even Republican Senator and Presidential candidate Bob Smith of New
Hampshire just recently launched a "shot across the bow" and shocked
Party chieftains.  He said that as he travels around the country, he
is seeing a growing frustration with Republicans, specifically over
the gun rights issue.  "I believe you may well have seen the
beginning . . . [of] the end of the Republican Party," Smith said.
"If it happens, I'm not leaving my party-- my party is leaving me."

The Battle Now Moves to the House

As the anti-gun juvenile crime bill now moves to the House, top
Republicans are already lining up in support of certain gun
restrictions.  House Speaker Denny Hastert (R-IL) and House
Judiciary Committee Chairman Henry Hyde (R-IL) have both announced
their support for some of the anti-gun provisions included in the
Senate bill.  This is not surprising, considering the respective "C"
and "D" ratings that they have earned from Gun Owners of America.

ACTION: Contact the top honchos in the Republican Party to express
your outrage over the sell-out of gun owners nationwide.  GOA has
included a sample letter for you to send to Republican National
Committee Chairman Jim Nicholson.  You can reach him at (ph)
202-863-8500, 863-8700 (e-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] or (fax) 202-863-8774,
863-8820.

It would also be worthwhile to contact Representatives Hastert (ph:
202-225-2976, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or fax: 225-0697) and
Hyde (ph: 202-225-4561; fax: 225-1166; no e-mail).  You can tweak
the same letter and send it to them.

How they voted in the Senate.  When the smoke cleared yesterday, the
final tally in favor of passing S. 254 was 73-25.  Go to http://www.
senate.gov/legislative/vote1061/legis_rollcall_vote1061.html on the
web and click on vote numbers 121-140 to see how Senators voted on
all amendments relating to Hatch's bill, S. 254.  Listed below is a
breakdown of yesterday's vote on final passage.

Did Your Senator Vote Against the 2nd Amendment?

All Democrats voted in favor of S. 254 except Senators Russ Feingold
(WI) and Paul Wellstone (MN) who voted against the bill.  Not voting
were Senators Fritz Hollings (SC) and John McCain (AZ).
Twenty-three Republicans voted correctly and opposed the bill (those
*not* listed 

[CTRL] Fwd: NATIONAL ALERT SYSTEMS NETWORK 5/22/99

1999-05-22 Thread Bill Richer





NATIONAL ALERT SYSTEMS NETWORK   5/22/99
REPORT ON MILITARY CURRENT EVENTS...AND MORE!!!
by Brian Krampert ([EMAIL PROTECTED])   5/20/99

 A friend (called "F" from now on) currently back in the NorthEast after
active duty since February called me to make these points. Some of this
info isn't new, just a confirmation. Forgive some of the points made, but up
here in Maine sometimes what we hear and the lack of having any of it in
our vision creates a huge believability gulf, particularly for newbies.
Though,
when thousands see the same thing

   * Everything we hear about armor on the railroad lines is true. His source
 told him that not just the GDR air force was in country but that 12-20
 other bases (or pieces of them) are currently being leased by other
 foreign militaries. Due to sovereignty issues they weren't unloading
their
 armor. What they are doing is keeping it on flatcars and when they
 become an issue they move it.

   * During a night of "popping cold ones" in San Antonio they got to
 talking to an ordnance team that was deeply involved in imbibing.
 Seems this team was currently on their way to the west coast after
 being on the east coast. This teams job was to "crate up" and get
 high-tech ordnance onboard ship for expenditure in Yugoslavia. They
 had just finished TOTALLY stripping the east, hence the move to the
 west to continue their job.

   * The US Air Force is being restructured into 12 Expeditionary Wings.
 The question posed, and the assumed reason for the restructure is
 Since the USAF will be something other than the USAF (that is,
 expeditionary forces) what can Adolph Klinton do with them that he
 can't do with them as USAF? Understand, these expeditionary wings
 will be totally self-supporting with refueling, maint., etc. and no need
 to be dependent on others for support.
 [FYI:  These refueling wings are USAF National Guard Units - our
 unit from Knoxville, TN has been assigned to Germany to refuel
 the planes bombing Serbia and Kosovo!!!Where are the active
 duty units?   Or do we have active duty refueling wings?   Dot Bibee]

   * Somehow F got the "feeling" that Maine was to be used as a staging
 area for the "invasion" of areas to the south. Example: Bangor IA  has
 runways 14' thick and long enough to handle anything that flies.

   * F relates this story: F was training in civilian law enforcement (as
 active military). The drill was to respond to a domestic disturbance.
 So picture this happening (It did- for practice) A 4wd pickup comes
 roaring up, and a combat response team unloads; 2 M-16s w/grenade
 launcher, and an M60. For a domestic! Heavy training in MOUT.

   * Military MOUT training in the cities of Texas is an almost daily
 occurrence. Go to bed and everything is quiet. Wake up and see fully
 armed troops walking down main street next morning. The civilians appear
 to be accepting this.

   * Military "Intelligence" (of some sort) was aware of the Maine Militia.
 Good goin' guys! Fs feeling was that they think they will be able to
 contain and subdue Maine for their staging area. That is why they have
 had a "hands off" policy when it comes to overt moves in Maine. To keep
 the populace sleeping. Looks like it'll be a target rich environment
 when it goes down. Time to load more ammo.




[CTRL] Clinton Earning 'Frequent Liar Miles'

1999-05-25 Thread Bill Richer

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 Clinton Earning 'Frequent Liar Miles'


Our BNN Investigative team has uncovered evidence that a major U.S. air
carrier has been awarding President Clinton 'Frequent Liar Miles'. A unnamed
executive of this airlines told BNN, "The CEO of our company is good friends
with the President. When Clinton first took office in 92' he set up a special
account in the President's name. I discovered that every time the President
lies he is given credit toward free air travel. Clinton can redeem these
'Frequent Liar Miles' as soon as he leaves office."

When BNN asked how many miles the President had accrued we were told, "Let's
just say that Mr. Clinton will be able to fly First-Class for free for the
rest of his life."

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[CTRL] Sign Petition to stop the War

1999-05-25 Thread Bill Richer

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 A HREF="http://www.eagleforum.org/column/"1999 Index to Phyllis Schlafly
Columns
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[CTRL] GOP candidates denounce Clinton for 'security lapses'

1999-05-26 Thread Bill Richer

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TOP POLITICAL STORY
GOP candidates denounce Clinton for 'security lapses'


By Donald Lambro
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Picture: The Republican candidates for the 2000 presidential nomination
accused President Clinton yesterday of endangering America's national
security by failing to take steps to prevent China from stealing U.S. nuclear
technology.
 In a blizzard of statements reacting to the Cox report's disclosures
that China has obtained valuable nuclear-missile information, the candidates
blamed Mr. Clinton for the administration's lax security at the Energy
Department's Los Alamos, N.M., nuclear labs.
 They also made it clear by their responses that the security issues
raised in the report of the bipartisan panel headed by Rep. Chris Cox,
California Republican, will be at the top of their agendas in the 2000
presidential campaign.
 "It is very alarming that these serious allegations of spying activities
were known for some time and compromised our national security, yet the
Justice Department refused to investigate them," said Sen. John McCain,
Arizona Republican.
 He said "too little action was taken too late by the administration,
resulting in the fact that the Chinese may have been able to build nuclear
weapons comparable to ours."
 Mr. McCain said the administration was to blame for a "complete failure
to effectively bring these breaches of security to a halt."
 "Questions will be asked why, in the face of overwhelming evidence that
these operations were taking place, didn't the Justice Department and this
administration do more to stop it?" he said. "The public deserves a swift and
honest response."
 "Every American should be outraged by the security lapses at our
national laboratories and the subsequent failure of the Clinton-Gore
administration to deal with this breach," said Elizabeth Dole, another GOP
contender for the White House.
 Texas Gov. George W. Bush, the front-runner for the GOP presidential
nomination, likewise attacked Mr. Clinton for not taking action to halt the
theft of information even after the administration was aware of the problem.
 "Presented with detailed information about China's espionage, this
administration apparently did not take it seriously, did not react properly
and it is still trying to minimize the scope and extent of the damage done,"
Mr. Bush said as he called for a full-scale congressional investigation.
 Mr. Bush acknowledged that China's espionage has been going on for
years, including during the administration of his father, former President
George Bush, but he said that did not excuse Mr. Clinton from his
responsibility to keep strategic military secrets out of the hands of
America's adversaries.
 "It's unfortunate that China has been stealing secrets during Carter,
Reagan, Bush and Clinton. But there is only one administration that has been
given the news. Only one administration knew -- and that's the Clinton
administration. The interesting question is, when did they know?"
 Mr. Bush also called for "a full and serious review of export controls"
to prevent further U.S. technology from helping China militarily.
 Magazine magnate Steve Forbes said the spying went unheeded because of
what he called the administration's "hear no evil, see no evil and speak no
evil" policy toward China, which "has deeply wounded the U.S.'s ability to
defend itself."
 Mr. Forbes called for suspending all U.S. armed forces cooperation with
the Chinese military, slapping "stiff sanctions" on People's Liberation Army
companies doing business in the U.S., fully funding a missile-defense system,
and rejecting China's membership in the World Trade Organization.
 "This is going to be a big issue in next year's campaign," said another
GOP candidate, Gary Bauer, who has made U.S. relations with China a major
issue in his presidential bid.
 "I've been in eight states in the last couple of days, and the anger
level over this is unbelievable," Mr. Bauer said. "When I say we are likely
to give China most-favored trading status, there are boos in the audience."

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[CTRL] Congressman Curt Weldon's Home Page

1999-05-28 Thread Bill Richer

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 A HREF="http://www.house.gov/curtweldon/"Welcome to Congressman Curt
Weldon's Home Page
/A

http://www.house.gov/curtweldon/

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[CTRL] Happy Memorial Day

1999-05-28 Thread Bill Richer

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 A
HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/4188/memdy.html"memdy.html at
www.geocities.com
/A
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/4188/memdy.html

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[CTRL] BUCHANAN TO RENO: EXPLAIN OR GO

1999-05-28 Thread Bill Richer

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Buchanan 2000
For Immediate Release: Friday, May 28, 1999

BUCHANAN TO RENO: EXPLAIN OR GO

COLUMBUS, OHIO--Presidential candidate Patrick J. Buchanan today called
on Atty. Gen. Janet Reno either to take responsibility for the Justice
Department's astonishing failure to wiretap suspected Chinese spy Wen Ho
Lee or identify and dismiss the subordinates she blames for not fully
briefing
her.

"By Ms. Reno's own admission, when the FBI sought to wiretap Lee in 1997,
the Justice Department refused, and even after the FBI revised the
application twice, it was still not approved," Mr. Buchanan said.  "Some 400
other wiretap warrants were rubber-stamped, but the request to investigate
what has since become the greatest security breach in history was
inexplicably rejected.  Why?"

"Ms. Reno's assertion that she was not briefed is an inadequate defense for
her department's incompetence, and claiming that the FBI did not make a
compelling case is unacceptable," Mr. Buchanan said. " The Attorney
General must either take responsibility for her feckless stewardship or
remove those derelict in their duty."

"This latest round of the Clinton/Gore blame game is conclusive proof that
the days of 'the buck stops here' will not return until this Administration
packs its bags."

For more information contact Bob Adams or John Aquino at (703) 734-2700.

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Re: [CTRL] CTRL List

1999-01-09 Thread Bill Richer

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In a message dated 1/9/99 2:32:46 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of Ame,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 Hiya Kris,

 My vote would be for 2 lists: one for discussion and the second one to post
 articles.  A combined lists would mean way too many posts.  IMHO.

 Hilary
  
I concur with Hilary!
Bill

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[CTRL] Microsoft Help For Year 2000

1999-01-12 Thread Bill Richer

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Technology News  Microsoft Offers Fixes To Y2K Software Glitches
(01/08/99, 1:42 p.m. ET)
By Stuart J. Johnston with Bruce Caldwell, InformationWeek

Microsoft unveiled Thursday a long-expected comprehensive initiative to help
users find and fix year 2000 problems in its software.

A key component of the initiative is a product-analyzer tool that examines
users' hard disks and lets administrators know which Microsoft products in use
are compliant and which need patches. That tool will be available this
quarter.

The also initiative includes a free CD subscription service for customers. CDs
will contain the product analyzer when it becomes available, as well as
quarterly updates on Microsoft product-compliance issues. The subscription
service is available now.

Microsoft has made available three plug-ins for Excel that help users fix any
year 2000 problems in spreadsheets that use two-digit years. Additionally,
Systems Management Server 2.0, which is due out early this year, will be able
to inventory users' PCs and inform administrators which Microsoft software
needs to be updated.

The Redmond, Wash.-based software giant also has posted on its website free
patches and hot fixes for many of its products, according to company
officials.

"The tools will help small and medium businesses that are way behind, but they
are too little, too late for larger organizations," said James Duggan, an
analyst at Gartner Group, in Stamford, Conn.

Duggan also said many customers invested heavily in installing Service Pack 3
of Windows NT 4.0 last year, with the understanding that it would address
their year 2000 issues. It was "very aggravating" when they later discovered
they would also need to install a fourth service pack, which Microsoft
released late last year, to fix additional problems.

Users can subscribe to the CD service at http://www.microsoft.com/year2000 or
by calling 888-673-8925.

Technology News  Microsoft Hit With First Y2K Suit
(12/24/98, 3:19 p.m. ET)
TechWeb

Microsoft has been hit with its first year 2000-related lawsuit. The class-
action complaint, brought by one plaintiff, alleges Microsoft knowingly
designed FoxPro and Visual FoxPro so that they could not properly handle the
century change. The suit asks for Microsoft to notify all FoxPro and Visual
FoxPro users of the problem and issue a corrective patch, as well as some
punitive damages.

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[CTRL] TERRORIST ALERT:

1999-01-13 Thread Bill Richer

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TERRORIST ALERT: There is a northeast terrorist group operating in North
America. They are stockpiling the most advanced weaponry known to man, and are
highly DANGEROUS! They have committed high treason against the lawful
government, refused to comply with current arms legislation, and have refused
to pay lawful taxes. This paramilitary group is highly proficient in guerilla
warfare, and is currently being led by a man who held the rank of lieutenant
in the military, but is now referred to by his cult followers as General. This
hate crazed group of anti-government extremists may be linked to a separatist
movement. Anyone having any knowledge of the whereabouts of this so-called
'General' George Washington, please contact his Majesty's representatives as
soon as possible!

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[CTRL] Get the President removed from Office

1999-01-14 Thread Bill Richer

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 A HREF="http://petition.snaapp.net/"petition.snaapp.net means that you get
heard!/A
http://petition.snaapp.net/

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[CTRL] Please pass this along

1999-01-18 Thread Bill Richer

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Mikelle is an eleven year old girl that has been missing from Mesa, AZ since
Saturday, January 2, 1999.  My 10 year old son attends the school she attends.
Her family, people who know her, miss her so very much.  Please click on the
link below and go to her web page and help bring Mikelle home.  Please check
in on this Web Page periodically to get any updated information.  If you have
not seen or posted any of her flyers there is an address on this site to print
from.  This is Mikelle's Web Page.  PLEASE CLICK HERE 
A HREF="http://members.aol.com/wecaremdb/page/WeCareMikelle.htm"
WeCareMikelle/A

or go to address: (highlight, copy and paste to web server)
L
http://members.aol.com/wecaremdb/page/WeCareMikelle.htm

(Please Pass This On To Everyone)

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[CTRL] Call/write your Senator!

1999-01-18 Thread Bill Richer

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From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The President simply must be convicted or forced to resign.  You can help.

Below you will find a listing of those U.S. Senate offices that have
published Internet addresses on the Senate's Internet server. If you wish
to
inquire about any other Senate office's use of electronic mail, you must
place your inquiry directly with the office in question. You can direct
correspondence to your Senator or to other U.S. Senate offices at the
following address:

For Member inquiries:

Office of Senator (Name)
United States Senate
Washington, D.C. 20510

For Committee inquiries:

(Name of Committee)
United States Senate
Washington, D.C. 20510

Alternatively, you may phone the United States Capitol switchboard at
(202)
224-3121. A switchboard operator will connect you directly with the Senate
office you wish to speak with.


SENATORS OF THE 106th CONGRESS
http://www.senate.gov
Capitol Switchboard 202-224-3121

1. Sen. Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.) Phone: (202) 224-5744 Fax: (202)
224-3416
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

2.  Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) Phone: (202) 224-4124 Fax: (202) 224-3149
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

3.  Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) Phone: (202) 224-3004 Fax: (202) 224-2354
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

4.  Sen. Frank H. Murkowski (R- Alaska) Phone: (202) 224-6665 Fax: (202)
224-5301 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

5.  Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) Phone: (202) 224-2235 Fax: (202) 228-2862
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


6.  Sen. Jon L. Kyl (R-Ariz.) Phone: (202) 224-4521 Fax: (202) 228-1239
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

7.  Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.) Phone: (202) 224-4843
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

8.  Sen. Tim Hutchinson (R-Ark.) Phone: (202) 224-2353
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

9.  Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) Phone: (202) 224-3841 Fax: (202)
228-3954 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

10.  Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) Phone: (202) 224-3553
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

11. Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell (R-Colo.) Phone: (202) 224-5852 Fax:
(202)
224-1933

12.  Sen. Wayne Allard (R-Colo.) Phone: (202) 224-5941  Fax: (202) 224-6471
E-mail: http://www.senate.gov/~allard/

13.  Sen. Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.) Phone: (202) 224-2823
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

14.  Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (D-Conn.) Phone: (202) 224-4041 Fax (202)
224-9750 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

15.  Sen. William V. Roth, Jr. (R-Del.) Phone: (202) 224-2441 Fax: (202)
224-5920 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

16.  Sen. Joseph R. Biden, Jr. (D-Del.) Phone: (202) 224-5042 Fax: (202)
224-0139 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

17.  Sen. Bob Graham (D-Fla.) Phone: (202) 224-3041 Fax: (202) 224-5621
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

18.  Sen. Connie Mack (R-Fla.) Phone: (202) 224-5274
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

19.  Sen. Paul Coverdell (R-Ga.) Phone: (202) 224-3643  Fax: (202) 228-3783
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

20.  Sen. Max W. Cleland (D-Ga.) Phone: (202) 224-3521 Fax: (202) 224-0072
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

21.  Sen. Daniel K. Inouye (D-Hawaii) Phone: (202) 224-3934
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

22.  Sen. Daniel K. Akaka (D-Hawaii) Phone: (202) 224-6361 Fax: (202)
224-2126 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

23.  Sen. Larry E. Craig (R-Idaho) Phone: (202) 224-2752 Fax: (202)
228-1067
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

24. Sen. Mike Crapo (R -Idaho) Phone: (202) 224-6142 Fax: (202) 224-5893

25.  Sen. Peter Fitzgerald (R -Ill.) Phone: (202) 224-2854 Fax: (202)
228-5786

26.  Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) Phone: (202) 224-2152 Fax: (202)
228-0400 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

27.  Sen. Richard G. Lugar (R-Ind.) Phone: (202) 224-4814 Fax: (202)
228-0360 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

28.  Sen. Evan Bayh (D -Ind.) Phone: (202) 224-5623 Fax:  (202) 228-4745

29.  Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) Phone: (202) 224-3744 Fax: (202)
224-6020 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

30.  Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) Phone: (202) 224-3254 Fax: (202) 224-9369
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

31.  Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) Phone: (202) 224-6521 Fax: (202) 228-1265
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

32.  Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan.) Phone: (202) 224-4774 Fax: (202) 224-3514
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

33.  Sen. Jim Bunning (R -Ky.) Phone: (202) 224-4343
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

34.  Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) Phone: (202) 224-2541 Fax: (202)
224-2499
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

35.  Sen. John B. Breaux (D-La.) Phone: (202) 224-4623
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

36.  Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) Phone: (202) 224-5824   Fax: (202) 224-9735
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

37.  Sen. Olympia J. Snowe (R-Maine) Phone: (202) 224-5344 Fax: (202)
224-1946 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

38.  Sen. Susan M. Collins (R-Maine) Phone: (202) 224-2523
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

39.  Sen. Paul S. Sarbanes (D-Md.) Phone: (202) 224-4524 Fax: (202)
224-1651
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

40.  Sen. Barbara A. Mikulski (D-Md.) Phone: (202) 224-4654 Fax: (202)
224-8858 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

41.  Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) Phone: (202) 224-4543 Fax: (202)
224-2417 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

42.  Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) Phone: (202) 224-2742 Fax: (202)
224-8525

[CTRL] This is better than High Beams! LOL

1999-01-21 Thread Bill Richer

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 A HREF="http://www.speedtrap.com/us-traps.html"U.S Speed Traps/A
http://www.speedtrap.com/us-traps.html

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[CTRL] Choose a Leader

1999-01-27 Thread Bill Richer

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It is time to elect a world leader, and your vote counts.
 Here's the scoop on the three leading candidates.

 Candidate A: associates with ward healers and consults with
 astrologists.  He's had two mistresses.  He chain smokes
 and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day.

 Candidate B: was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until
 noon, used opium in college and drinks a quart of brandy
 every evening.

 Candidate C: is a decorated war hero.  He's a vegetarian,
 doesn't smoke, drinks an occasional beer and hasn't had any
 illicit affairs.

 Which of these candidates is your choice??


 scroll down









 Candidate A is Franklin D. Roosevelt

 Candidate B is Winston Churchill

 Candidate C is Adolph Hitler

 Kind of Scary...

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[CTRL] SKYWRITING FOR THE SENATE TOMORROW !!

1999-02-04 Thread Bill Richer

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SKYWRITING FOR THE SENATE TOMORROW !!
--

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

TOMORROW.,..FRIDAYFEBRUARY 5, 1999.WASHINGTON, DC

POINT YOUR CAMERAS UPWARD AT 9:00 AM.   THERE WILL BE A MESSAGE TO  THE
CONGRESS.WRITTEN IN THE SKY!

 THIS IS GOD
 CONVICT + REMOVE
  OR ELSE

Donations for this skywriting event as well as for  two Superbowl banner
planes were raised in a matter of days from partiscipants on the noted
Internet political web site, FreeRepublic.com.  Members of the site, with
screen names like "Seeking the Truth", "Thomas Paine", "Clinton's a Liar" and
"Ayn Rand",  comment on current events, news columns, and articles.

The organizer of this event, Gene McDonald, a Boca Raton, FL resident,
states, "This is truely a grass roots response. The people sending their
contributions are informed and aware of the felonies that have been committed
by Clinton and they want the Senate to uphold the Constitution and  remove him
from office." He  has received hundreds of donations ranging from $ 3.00  to
$ 201.00 in addition to  thousands of emails  and letters with suggested
messages to put on the banner and skywriting planes.


  CONTACT PERSON:
 Gene McDonald
   561-392-0342
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[CTRL] Heinz Vinegar Hints

1999-02-05 Thread Bill Richer

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Heinz® Vinegar

Milk cows organically.
Clean milking equipment with unperfumed dish detergent followed with a
Heinz Vinegar rinse.  Pipes, hoses, and bulk tank will come out squeaky clean
without any odor, lowering the bacteria count.

Kill bacteria in meats.
Marinating meat in Heinz Vinegar kills bacteria and tenderizes the meat.
Use one-quarter cup vinegar for a two to three pound roast, marinate
overnight, then cook without draining or rinsing the meat.  Add herbs to the
vinega when marinating as desired.

Dissolve warts.
Mix one part Heinz Apple Cider Vinegar to one part glycerin into a lotion
and apply daily to warts until they dissolve.

Remove stubborn stains from furniture upholstery and clothes.
Apply Heinz White Vinegar directly to the stain, then wash as directed by
the manufacturer's instructions.

Grow beautiful azaleas.
Occasionally water plants with a mixture of two tablespoons Heinz White
Vinegar to one quart water.  Azaleas love acidic soil.

Relieve arthritis.
Before each meal, drink a glass of water containing two teaspoons Heinz
Apple Cider Vinegar.  Give this folk remedy at least three weeks to start
working.

Kill unwanted grass.
Pour Heinz White Vinegar in crevices and between bricks.

Remove corns.
Make a poultice of one crumbled piece of bread soaked in one-quarter cup
Heinz Vinegar.  Let poultice sit for one-half hour, then apply to the corn and
tape in place overnight.  If corn does not peel off by morning, reapply the
poultice for several consecutive nights.

Clean the hoses and unclog soap scum from a washing machine.
Once a month pour one cup of Heinz White Vinegar into the washing machine
and run the machine through a normal cycle, without clothes.

Cure an upset stomach.
Drink two teaspoons Heinz Apple Cider Vinegar in one cup water to soothe
an upset stomach.

Kill germs on bathroom fixtures.
Use one part Heinz Vinegar to one part water in a spray bottle.  Spray
the bathroom fixtures and floor, then wipe clean.

Clean soap scum, mildew, and grime from bathtub, tile, and shower
curtains. Simply wipe the surface with Heinz Vinegar and rinse with water.

Deodorize the air.
Heinz Vinegar is a natural air freshener when sprayed in a room.

Relieve itching.
Use a cotton ball to dab mosquito and other bug bites with Heinz Vinegar
straight from the bottle.

Clean lime deposits and calcium sludge from an automatic drip coffee
maker. Once a month fill the reservoir with Heinz White Vinegar and run
through the brew cycle.  Rinse thoroughly with two cycles of cold water.

Relieve a sore throat.
Put two teaspoons of Heinz Vinegar in your humidifier.

Soothe sunburn pain.
Apply undiluted Heinz Vinegar to the burn.

Clean food-stained pots and pans.
Fill the pots and pans with Heinz White Vinegar and let stand for thirty
minutes.  Then rinse in hot, soapy water.

Clean rust from tools, bolts, and spigots.
Soak the rusted tool, bolt, or spigot in undiluted Heinz White Vinegar
overnight.

Turn a chicken bone into rubber.
Soak a chicken bone in a glass of Heinz Vinegar for three days.  It will
bend like rubber.

Prevent bright colored clothes from fading.
Before putting the article in the washing machine, soak it in Heinz White
Vinegar for ten minutes.

Keep a garbage disposal clean and smelling fresh.
Mix one cup of Heinz Vinegar in enough water to fill an ice cube tray, freeze
the mixture, grind the cubes through the disposal, and flush with cold
water.

Clean a toilet bowl.
Pour in one cup of Heinz White Vinegar, let it stand for five minutes,
and flush.

Prevent yeast infections.
Douche with one tablespoon Heinz White Vinegar to one quart warm water to
adjust the pH balance in the vagina.

Clean dentures.
Soak dentures overnight in Heinz White Vinegar, then brush away tartar
with a toothbrush.

Remove perspiration stains from clothes.
Apply one part Heinz White Vinegar to four parts water, then rinse.

Deodorize a room filled with cigarette smoke or paint fumes.
Place a small bowl of Heinz White Vinegar in the room.

Cure the hiccups.
Mix one teaspoon Heinz Apple Cider Vinegar in one cup of warm water, and
drink.

Eliminate odors from used jars.
Rinse peanut butter and mayonnaise jars with Heinz White Vinegar.

Condition dry hair.
Shampoo, then rinse hair with a mixture of one cup Heinz Apple Cider
Vinegar and two cups water.  Vinegar adds highlights to brunette hair,
restores
the acid mantel, and removes soap film and sebum oil.

Clean mineral deposits from a steam iron.
Fill the water tank with Heinz White Vinegar.  Turn the iron to the steam
setting and steam-iron a soft utility rag to clean the steam ports.  Repeat
the process with water, then thoroughly rinse out the inside of your iron.

Remove light scorch marks from fabrics.
Rub lightly with Heinz White Vinegar, then wipe with a clean cloth.

Repel ants.
Use a spray bottle or mister filled with a solution of equal parts Heinz
Vinegar and water around door jambs, window sills, water pipes, and
foundation 

[CTRL] Senate Vote

1999-02-12 Thread Bill Richer

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Friends:
  Just a few minutes ago President William Jefferson Clinton was
acquited of all wrong doing!  Here is how the vote went.

1st Article

Guilty  Not Guilt
45 55


2nd Article

Guilty  Not Guilt
50 50

   In my opinion this is a very sad day in America!  To quote from FDR, "This
day will live in infamy!"  For today we were not bombed by the Japanese or any
other foreign power, but today we realize that our so called elected officials
do not stand for truth but for some agenda that has not come to full light yet
and that our media with their magical lying polls is part of this big lie!  We
in a sense have been bombed by lies and from those within our country whom we
put our trust to govern us!  This is far worst than being bombed by a enemy
from without!  May God have mercy on America!

God Bless
Bill

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Re: [CTRL] Clinton Cleared

1999-02-13 Thread Bill Richer

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In a message dated 2/12/99 10:42:36 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of A,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 While I don't agree with the verdict and have some definite thoughts as to
 what should be done with Mr. Clinton I am glad that this whole thing is over
 because I just can't take any more of the political mutual cover up society
in
 Washington.  I guess this means we can get back to the real business of
 government, like shoving people off of welfare, giving our jobs to cheap
child
 labor overseas, taking away social security, firebombing Iraq, waging war in
 Kosovo, helping the Chinese to better destroy us, steal property from people
 under draconian unconstitutional asset forfeiture laws, punish people under
 ridiculous drug laws, take away constitutional rights, practice illegal human
 experimentation, spray the population with unknown chemicals, make sure our
 meat is good and irradiated, approve the use of questionable substances in
our
 food and water, make illegal the sale of substances that may be beneficial
 because they are a threat to the profits of Big Business, give more money to
 big corporations, force people to get vaccines that may be harmful, enact
FEMA
 laws and executive orders bypassing the checks and balances of government,
and
 etc.
 It sure is a good thing knowing that the government can get back to all that
 important work.
 Teo1000
  
We thought times were bad during Vietnam,  They are super bad today and
getting worst!  I would say give me the good old days of Vietnam back!  At
least we had a strong military that we could trust!

God Bless
Bill
Vietnam Era Vet

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[CTRL] **** Regarding Simple Poll ****

1999-02-17 Thread Bill Richer

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Dear Friends:
This is a second chance to take the poll I sent out before!  I wanted
to add a couple comments about the poll.  When I give out the results your
screen name or name will not be there with the results!  What you write down
will be only between you and me!  So if you haven't did the poll yet, please
take a couple minutes to fill it out and send back.  This is purely for to see
how close I come to media's poll in percentages!  I already have over 60
emails.  I want to get as many as I can get!  I will be releasing the poll
info in about one week!

What Political Party do you belong to?

  Republican     Democrat   Other

Do you consider yourself?

  Conservative    Liberal    Moderate

   Do you believe that President Clinton is Guilty?

  Yes No


   Do you believe he should have been removed from office?


  Yes No



Any further Comments:

Please fill these questions out ASAP and send back to me and I'll send results
out later?

God Bless
Bill

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[CTRL] POW/MIA Freedom Radio will feature: Bat 21

1999-02-20 Thread Bill Richer

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On Sunday February 21, 1999,  POW/MIA Freedom Radio will feature:

Darrel Whitcomb, researcher and author of The Rescue of Bat 21.  Darrel
has information that Hollywood left out of the movie.

Also
John Molloy, long time activist and POW/MIA researcher.

POW/MIA Radio is on every Sunday at 5:00 PM (eastern time) and can be
heard on your computer via the internet.  To listen you can download
either StreamWorks or Real Audio from the following links:

http://hometown.aol.com/soarngduv/Dave.htm

Dave Murray's Fight for POW/MIA's
or:
http://www.amerifree.com/index.htm

American Freedom Network

Listen and learn the truth !

While listening to POW/MIA Freedom Radio you can still use other
computer applications

Dave Murray - Producer

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[CTRL] File attachment Important

1999-02-20 Thread Bill Richer

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Subject: File attachment
Importance: High



I noticed that one of yesterday's
emails had the Happy99.exe
attachment.  This is not a virus but
a Trojan that will sent this email
out to everyone you email and keeps
on going.  See below from the
Stiller Research home page.  You may
want to post a warning not to
execute.
c/
The "Happy99" Virus?

No, Happy99 is not a virus, but it's
not a hoax either. It's technically
a trojan with some worm
characteristics. (It is NOT a virus
and it doesn't infect files or boot
sectors
as a virus will).

Happy99: a net trojan and worm

We're considering Happy99 (AKA
Win32/SKA) to be a worm because once
you execute the trojan, it will
install itself on your PC and then
send file "HAPPY99.EXE"
as an attachment with your email.
The danger is that this file will be
sent to people who know you (and
possibly trust you!) and will be
more likely to execute the file
than if it came from a stranger. The
fact that people receive HAPPY99
from someone that they know has
caused this program to much more
common than
most trojans.

Note, the only way you can be
attacked by this trojan (as is true
with other trojans) is if you
download (or copy) execute the
trojan .EXE file. (It is not a
virus and can't spread like a
virus.)

NewsGroup Postings!

The Happy99 Trojan has been posted
to internet Newsgroups a large
number of times. It is most common
in newsgroups where Mime and UU
encoded files are
commonly posted.

Effects of Happy99

When you run the "HAPPY99.EXE" file,
it will display a fireworks display
and at the same time install itself
on your PC by creating a files
SKA.DLL and SKA.EXE (a
copy of the downloaded HAPPY99.EXE
files). It also patches WSOCK32.DLL
and modifies the registry field
"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce"
to execute SKA.EXE at startup.

There is apparently no deliberately
destructive code in the trojan
(beyond wasting internet bandwidth)
but we have reports of many PC
crashes and hangs.

Removal?

If you are using Integrity Master,
you can see what this (or any other
trojan) has done to your PC and
delete or restore the appropriate
files.

If you have made the mistake of
executing "HAPPY99.EXE", you can
remove it with just a few steps. (As
always make sure you have good
backups!) The first
step (using REGEDIT) is optional:
Use REGEDIT (backup your registry
first) to remove the
"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce"
registry field that
executes "SKA.EXE". (The remaining
steps are not optional) Next delete
the files mentioned above (SKA.EXE
and SKA.DLL in your Windows System
folder/directory).

You will need to restore the
modified WSOCK32.DLL. You can do
this from a backup (best) or look in
the system directory for file
WSOCK32.SKA (this should be
your original WSOCK32.DLL) which you
can rename or copy over the
WSOCK32.DLL file.

Note, these instructions assume you
are familiar with the technical
details of your PC (such as editing
the registry). If you are not sure,
get someone
that is more experienced to assist
you. Please perform the above
procedure at your own risk. We make
no warranty that they will work in
all cases;
different variants of this trojan
may exist.

PROTECTION?

As we have mentioned in our article
on Are Trojans a real threat to your
PC?, virus scanning is not a good
way to protect yourself against
trojans. Also simply avoiding
files with a particular name is not
enough.

Never accept any programs unless you
are familiar with the author or
vendor that produced the program
(even if you know the user that sent
you the
file).

WARNING

There is a warning being circulated
via email about "HAPPY99.EXE", with
a request to "Forward On to others".
Please do not forward any warning
that contains a
request to forward to others. Feel
free to warn your friends but please
do not send them a warning that says
to forward further!

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[CTRL] Important stuff

1999-02-24 Thread Bill Richer

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Forwarded Message:
Subj:   IMPORTANT stuff for all of us
Date:   99-02-23 10:28:28 EST
From:   Amroman4U

Hi My Friends, I just received this from a reader.  It is of concern for all
of us.  I have not done the research to determine the influence on our lives,
but many of you may already have some knowledge and are willing to share.
Additional information is on the webpage, the address is below.  Rich

I'm not in the habit of "sending serious" e-mails asking people to get
involved. However, I just found out about a proposed banking regulation up for
consideration that seriously intrudes on our private lives.  It's so
intrusive, I've decide to speak up and send this to you, in hopes that you'll
act on it, and forward it to as many people as you can. You only have until
March 8th to voice your objections.

In 1998, a "Know Your Customer" banking Bill was defeated in the House of
Representatives. The federal government, namely the FDIC and Treasury, quietly
took the regulation and decided to implement it without congressional
approval. It has silently made it's way to the public comment phase, and very
few people (including many of your representatives, bank employees, etc.) are
even aware it's out there.  If implemented, this regulation will have a
significant and far reaching affect on your everyday life.

Here are a just few of the highlights of the proposed Know Your Customer
regulation. I've included a link below that has all the details (this is only
the small part of the regulation).

*   Bank customers (you) will be required to reveal all sources of revenue
(income) that you deposit in the back. Accounts will be monitored to evaluate
actual deposits compared with projections. You must provide them with your
projected income and sources.

*   Banks will establish profiles, classifications, and categorizations on every
person who has an account based on information supplied by the customer (you)
and other gathered information.  All customers will be compared against the
subjective classifications.   Perceived anomalies in deposits or withdrawals
(that means any time your spending habits change, even for a day) will be
reported as suspicious activity. In short, the bank or credit union will
establish a baseline for you that identifies when and how you usually receive
and spend your money. If you normally
withdraw $100 from the ATM every Friday night, that will be part of your
profile.

*   If you decide one Friday to withdraw $700 for a weekend trip or to make a
purchase, you will have deviated from your normal spending pattern, and the
bank will be required to file a suspicious transaction report to the federal
government.

*   Banks are prohibited from informing customers when suspicious transaction
reports have been filed on them.

*   If you do not volunteer to be identified, you will be denied all banking
services.

If you believe in your 4th Amendment right privacy, I urge you to read the
specifics below, and contact the agencies listed at the bottom of this message
with your strong objections. This is your only chance to stop the regulation.
Public comments will only be accepted through March 8th.

The complete details of what the regulation includes-it's worth your time to
read it:
A HREF="http://www.networkusa.org/fingerprint/page1b/fp-kyc-summary.html"
Click here: FDIC Know Your Customer Summary/A  from AOL or,
http://www.networkusa.org/fingerprint/page1b/fp-kyc-summary.html

Comments will be taken from the public by these agencies until March 8, 1999.

Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation  Robert E. Feldman
Executive Secretary
Attention: Comments/OES
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Department of the Treasury
Manager, Dissemination Branch
Information Management and Services Division Office
of Thrift Supervision
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Department of the Treasury
Communications Division
Office of the Comptroller of the Currency 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[CTRL] Results from the Simple Poll of the Impeachment

1999-03-01 Thread Bill Richer

 -Caveat Lector-

Results from the Simple Poll of the Impeachment

Note:

 I was disapointed by the number of people filling out the poll because it
shows how many care less about what is going on and voila, the very reason we
have the government we have!  God save America!  Anyway to those who voted I
thank you all!
I have the results below along with many comments of those who voted and also
how the Senators voted.  Remember the following were the two questions I
asked:

Question # 1  Do you believe that President Clinton is Guilty?

Question # 2  Do you believe he should have been removed from office?

Total number of people polled: 81

  Question 1   Question 2

  Yes - 73 No - 8 Yes - 52  No - 21


  Total number of people polled who call themselves
Republicans: 33

 Question 1   Question 2

  Yes - 33 No - 0 Yes - 31  No - 2


 Total number of people polled who call themselves Other: 36

 Question 1   Question 2

  Yes - 32 No - 4 Yes - 27  No - 9

 Total number of people polled who call themselves Democrat 12

 Question 1   Question 2

  Yes - 8 No - 4 Yes - 3  No - 9


 Total number of people polled who call themselves
Conservative: 53

 Question 1   Question 2

  Yes - 53 No - 0 Yes - 47  No - 6


 Total number of people polled who call themselves Liberal: 8

 Question 1   Question 2

  Yes - 3 No - 5Yes - 2  No - 6

 Total number of people polled who call themselves Moderate:
20

 Question 1   Question 2

  Yes - 17 No - 3Yes - 11  No - 9


Comments by people who were polled:


I think we had no busness asking the questions asked
him, his sex life not any of our busness.  why didnt
we ask the same of kennedy?

What are we teaching our children about ethics in
the sanctity of marriage and the workplace?

 he is a jackass and a sinner and I do not think he is
sorry for the embarrasment he has brought to this
country although it is a provate matter and i didlike
that it was ever brought out in public so i guess i
dislike that other people got their noses where they did
not belong but i am ashamed as a Southern Baptist
myself that he is supposedly in the same denomination
at least when I sin i ask gods' forgivness i should not
judge but do you honestly believe he even feels
remorse my gosh is it the countrys fault he married a
woman whose facial features resemble ms piggy he got
what he was after and should keep it home

No, i don't want him to be removed from office;
Al Gore scares me more than Bill does!

WHAT HE DID WAS WRONG, WHAT SHE DID WAS WORSE.
EVERYTHING WAS A WASTE OF MONEY, I BELIEVE HE WAS SET
UP TO FALL. HE IS LIKE EVERY MAN IN AMERICA, SEE A
FEMALE AND DROOL.i WISH HE WAS DIFERENT...
. THE NEXT PRESIDENT SHOULD BE A WOMAN

Clinton -- as well as the MAJORITY (if not all) of
the Senators, House members  and Judiciary should be
removed.

I feel the president should be held to the same
standards as the rest of us.  If I committed purjury,
I would at the very least have to pay a fine or serve
jail time.

I think we are all guilty--Clinton was guilty of adultery and arrogance and
covering up adultery along with millions all over the world--
and he should have resigned. To have removed him from
office via Impeachment would have been a cheapening of
the process; save Impeachment for high crimes against
the state and the Constitution.  His party should have
forced him to resign Let us hope he does some
really public amends (similar to sackcloth and ashes)
by serving two years or more in the Peace Corps...or
helping Honduras to rebuild.amen

I'm extremely disappointed in the Senators. They placed
 their own fears concerning re-election and criticism
from the public stand in the way of a vote to restore
 integrity to the Office of the presidency.

I think he should have resigned a long time ago.

The dog turns back to his own vomit, and the sow is
washed only to wallow in the mire...

At this time, I have never felt so ashamed to call myself
an American.

He should go to jail.  If I committed perjury I would go
to jail.

Yes he should be removed from office.  To tell the truth,
he should have never gotten in.  The louse draft dodger.
How anyone could have voted for him is beyond belief.
All are scared stiff as to what he knows due to the
FBI files.

I'm very discouraged about the morals of the people of
our country and remember Rome's 

[CTRL] Reason things are the way they are in Washington DC

1999-03-01 Thread Bill Richer

 -Caveat Lector-

Puppets of the New World Order
written before 96 election

Q.  Are both the Democrat and Republican Parties in the New World Order?

A.  The answer is yes.

Q.  Both sides seem so opposite from each other.  How can they be on the
same side?

A.  When those in power in the New World Order want something done, the
system would work something like this:  The orders would come down probably
through the Council of Foreign Relations, which has their people throughout
the
government and media, go through their people in the House and the Senate and
through their people in the media.  The plan they want would be called Plan A.
Yet, all concerned know the people do not want Plan A.  So what they do, like
they have been doing, is to have the both Republican and the Democrat parties
take extreme positions from Plan A.  The Democrat party would take the left
position from Plan A which we will call Plan X while the Republican party
would take a right position in which we will call Plan Y.  In the meantime,
the
media would be explaining the extremes of both positions in which the people
want neither position.  So both sides put on their little play and seem to
want to
bargain with their positions.  Guess, what plan they have come up with?  Yes,
it
Plan A, the original position brought down from the Masters and the people
are relieved because they did not get the extreme positions.  This is how the
New World Order has been incrementing their plan in the USA.  One day, if
they have their way, it will not be called the USA.  Sometimes as in GATT and
NAFTA both sides are under major pressure from the Masters to vote for
something bad for our country because it does benefit them.  When a vote comes
like this, you know which people in the Congress are on the New World Order
Team.  You saw how the media and Congressmen said these agreements  were so
good for us!

Q.  Is the President involved in this?

A.  Yes, the President is involved in a big way.  Presidents George Bush
and
Bill Clinton have practically sold out this country in many ways.  They have
put people in major positions of government who are for this New World Order.
They have taken a lot of our rights and liberties away by signing bad laws.
They
have tried and continue to try to place us in One World government.


Q.  How can I put a stop to this?

A.  There are two things you can do.  You can pass this information on to
as many people as you can so that the word can get out and  we can do
something before it is too late.  We must return  to the direction our
founding Fathers.
Remember that a nation without God cannot stand.  Our Founding Fathers knew
this very well.  The people in our government are not for God.

Q.  Who is Bob Dole?

A.  He is the great bargainer with experience.  Remember, he’s the guy
who takes Plan X and Plan Y and turns them into Plan A for the Masters.  He is
the man
who only looks coservative during election time.  He doesn’t know what he is
for because he doesn’t know what his Masters want him to do yet.

Q.  Aren’t Bob Dole and George Bush American Veterans of World War II?

A.  Yes, they are, but remember that World War II was the war that the
West and Communism fought openly on the same side against Germany, Japan and
Italy.
Bob Dole and George Bush  are known to be members of a Secret Society.  So
was Franklin D. Roosevelt and Harry Truman.  It seems as though these Secret
Societies go along hand in hand with the Communists to bring about this New
World Order.  Wars after World War II were against Communism and there
was always someone in our government preventing us from winning.  So, the
question can go like this: “Were George Bush and Bob Dole fighting for
America in World War II or were they fighting for the New World Order and
Communism?”

Q.  By Secret Societies, do you mean Freemasonry?

A.   Yes,  Freemasonry and other Secret Societies are working hand in
hand with Communism to bring about this New World Order.

Q.  I always thought that the Masons do so much good for other people
and are Christian?

A.  Yes, the Masons and groups like Shriners do alot of good for
people but their their main goal is to bring in this New World Order.  Also,
most lower
degrees of Masons know very little of the goals of their top people.  They are
being led to their downfall.  One thing it says in the Bible is to not take
any
oaths.  The Secret Societies all have oaths.  The Freemasons have 33 degrees
with an oath for each degree.  Those taking these oaths are told that these
oaths really mean nothng but are just part of the ceremony.  The real truth
is that the oaths are for control.  One day they may be told something to do
that they will not like.  They will be reminded of their oath which is penalty
of death if they don’t carry out their 

[CTRL] Military rebels at anthrax vaccine

1999-03-01 Thread Bill Richer

 -Caveat Lector-

Military rebels at anthrax vaccine
Reserve, Guard pilots submit resignations; readiness could suffer

By Tom Bowman
Sun National Staff

WASHINGTON -- More than one-quarter of the pilots in a California Air Force
Reserve squadron are choosing to quit rather than take the Pentagon's
mandatory anthrax vaccine, the latest protest in a service-wide revolt that
could threaten the readiness of Guard and Reserve air squadrons.

The loss of at least 11 cargo and refueling pilots at Travis Air Force Base
near San Francisco follows the resignations last month of eight Air National
Guard combat pilots in Connecticut who also refused to take the vaccine.
Pilots from other units at Travis and at McGuire Air Force Base in New Jersey
are also considering stepping down.

They are part of a worrisome trend that, if it continues, could eventually
impair U.S. military operations, Air Force sources and officials say.

Officials said 11 of the 40 pilots from the 79th Air Refueling Squadron at
Travis are seeking transfers to desk jobs or retirements. But pilots say that
at least 18 will eventually leave.

The squadron of KC-10 cargo and refueling planes is scheduled to head to the
Persian Gulf in late March to support the "no-fly" operation in southern Iraq.
Though Travis officials say the squadron will still deploy, sources say the
losses will erode its combat-readiness andrequire pilots from other units to
fill the gaps.

The latest group of rebellious Guard and Reserve members are among dozens of
officers who have raised fears about the long-term health effects of the
anthrax vaccine and have questioned whether it is effective. Dozens more
active-duty enlistees have refused to take the vaccine and have faced
disciplinary action.

"This thing is destroying morale within this squadron, within other
squadrons," said one KC-10 pilot with the 79th who has refused the shot. "I've
been in over 14 years, and I've never seen anything like this."

Fellow Reserve aviators at the Travis base, specifically C-5 cargo plane
pilots, will resign in protest, as will other pilots at McGuire, said the
pilot, who asked not to be identified. In January, eight A-10 pilots from the
103rd Fighter Wing of the Connecticut Air National Guard -- one-quarter of the
unit's combat strength -- resigned rather than take the vaccine.

Defense Secretary William S. Cohen has ordered all 2.4 million active-duty and
reserve forces to take the six-shot vaccine by 2003, citing the possibility of
an attack on troops with a cloud of anthrax, a deadly biological weapon. The
first in line are troops being sent to the hot spots of Korea and the Persian
Gulf.

Top Pentagon officials, including Cohen and Gen. Henry H. Shelton, chairman of
the Joint Chiefs of Staff, are taking the vaccine themselves.

Maj. Robin Grantham, a spokeswoman for the Air Force Reserve Command, said 11
pilots from the 79th Air Refueling Squadron requested new assignments or
retirement in the past week, the most ever to resign at one time.

Only three or four of them, Grantham said, specifically cited the anthrax
vaccine as their reason for leaving. The seven or eight others said the main
reason was the many overseas missions in recent years, though she said that
"anthrax was listed among the reasons."

But the KC-10 pilot and other sources denied that the aviators are leaving for
any reasons other than the vaccine and said at least 18 are expected to step
down.

The 79th squadron will still be able to support the Iraq operation beginning
in late March, said Lt. Col. Jim Leli, the squadron's commander. Leli conceded
that the combat readiness of his squadron could be hurt by the losses,
depending on when the pilots leave and when replacements arrive.

The refusal of the KC-10 pilots to take the shots came despite a personal
appeal from Maj. Gen. Wallace W. Whaley, commander of the 4th Air Force at
March Air Force Base in California, who visited Travis last week with military
doctors and nurses. Besides answering questions, Whaley used the occasion to
submit to his own first anthrax vaccination.

"The threat of anthrax exposure is real, the disease is fatal and the vaccine
is FDA approved, effective and safe," the general told them, according to a
statement from his office. "My goal is to provide maximum protection for the
individual while accomplishing the mission."

Though the Pentagon points out that the vaccine has been in use since 1970,
the pilots and other critics complain that there have been no long-term
studies of the health consequences.

Moreover, those wary of the vaccine note that 150,000 of the 500,000 soldiers
who served in the gulf received the shots. Some suspect that the shots may be
associated with gulf war illness, the collection of mysterious ailments that
afflict thousands of veterans. But Pentagon officials say two studies found no
such evidence.

Some of those rejecting the vaccine 

[CTRL] Strange But True Deaths

1999-03-01 Thread Bill Richer

 -Caveat Lector-

 Strange But True Deaths

 Just Plain bad Luck
  A fierce gust of wind blew 45-year-old Vittorio Luise's car into a river
near Naples, Italy, in 1983.  He managed to break a window, climb out and swim
to shore -- where a tree blew over and killed him.

 Always Look Both Ways
  Mike Stewart, 31, of Dallas was filming a movie in 1983 on the dangers
of
 low-level bridges when the truck he was standing on passed under a low-level
bridge -- killing him.

 Take Novocain
  Walter Hallas, a 26-year-old store clerk in Leeds, England, was so
afraid of dentists that in 1979 he asked a fellow worker to try to cure his
toothache by punching him in the jaw.  The punch caused Hallas to fall down,
hitting his head, and he died of a fractured skull.

 Never Return To The Scene
  George Schwartz, owner of a factory in Providence, RI, narrowly escaped
death when a 1983 blast flattened his factory except for one wall.  After
treatment for minor injuries, he returned to the scene to search for files.
The remaining wall then collapsed on him, killing him.

 Poor Sucker
 Depressed since he could not find a job, 42-year-old Romolo Ribolla sat in
his kitchen near Pisa, Italy, with a gun in his hand threatening to kill
himself in 1981.  His wife pleaded for him not to do it, and after about an
hour he burst into tears and threw the gun to the floor.  It went off and
killed his wife.

 Check The Pulse First
  In 1983, Mrs. Carson of Lake Kushaqua, NY, was laid out in her coffin,
 presumed dead of heart disease.  As mourners watched, she suddenly sat up.
 Her daughter dropped dead of fright.

 Fraud Doesn't Pay
  A man hit by a car in New York in 1977 got up uninjured, but lay back
down in front of the car when a bystander told him to pretend he was hurt
 so he could collect insurance money.  The car rolled forward and crushed him
to death.

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[CTRL] Please Read and Act

1999-03-04 Thread Bill Richer

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Fwd: IMPORTANT INFORMATION!  March 8,99 deadline
a
I (CraftE1Ldy)  checked this out and verified this notice( read below).
There was an article in our Newspaper, Jan. 6, 1999 about this proposed
regulation.  It is a nightmare about to come true!!  Here is the latest report
on this ruling.  A HREF="http://www.messenger-
inquirer.com/business/e27721.htm"FDIC reconsidering new rules while facing
privacy criticism/A There is indeed a March 8, 1999 deadline for public
comment.  FDIC has been bearing the brunt of the letters of criticism and I
believe complaints should be directed to the Office of the Comptroller and
Office of the Thrift Supervision

Department of the Treasury
 Manager, Dissemination Branch
 Information Management and Services Division
 Office of Thrift Supervision
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Department of the Treasury
 Communications Division
 Office of the Comptroller of the Currency
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Proposed Regulation

 I'm not in the habit of sending "serious" e-mails asking people to get
 involved. However, I just found out about a proposed banking regulation up
 for consideration that seriously intrudes on our private lives. It's so
 intrusive, I've decide to speak up and send this to you in hopes that
 you'll act on it and forward it to as many people as you can. You only have
 until March 8th to voice your objections.

 In 1998, a "Know Your Customer" banking Bill was defeated in the House of
 Representatives. The federal government, namely the FDIC and Treasury,
 quietly took the regulation and decided to implement it without
 congressional approval. It has silently made its way to the public comment
 phase, and very few people including many of your representatives, bank
 employees, etc.) are even aware it's out there.

 If implemented, this regulation will have a significant and far reaching
 effect on your everyday life.

 Here are a just few of the highlights of the proposed "Know Your Customer"
 regulation. I've included a link below that has all the details (this is
 only the small part of the regulation).

 Bank customers (you) will be required to reveal all sources of revenue
 (income) that you deposit in the bank. Accounts will be monitored to
 evaluate actual deposits compared against projections.

 You must provide them with your projected income and sources.

 Banks will establish profiles, classifications, and categorizations on
 every person who has an account based on information supplied by the
 customer (you) and other gathered information.

 All customers will be compared against the subjective classifications.

 Perceived anomalies in deposits or withdrawals (that means any time your
 spending habits change, even for a day) will be reported as "suspicious
 activity." In short, the bank or credit union will establish a baseline for
 you that identifies when and how you usually receive and spend your money.
 If you normally withdraw $100 from the ATM every Friday night, that will be
 part of your profile. If you decide one Friday to withdraw $700 for a
 weekend trip or to make a purchase, you will have deviated from your normal
 spending pattern, and the bank will be required to file a suspicious
 transaction report to the federal government.

 Banks are prohibited from informing customers when suspicious transaction
 reports have been filed on them. If you do not "volunteer" to be
 identified, you will be denied all banking services. If you believe in your
 4th Amendment right to privacy, I urge you to read the specifics below, and
 contact the agencies listed at the bottom of this message with your strong
 objections. This is your only chance to stop the regulation. Public
 comments will only be accepted through March 8th.

 Here are the complete details of what the regulation includes -- it's worth
your time to read it:
 A HREF="http://www.networkusa.org/fingerprint/page1b/fp-kyc-summary.html"
http://www.networkusa.org/fingerprint/page1b/fp-kyc-summary.html/A
 Comments will be taken from the public by these agencies until March 8.1999.

 Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
 Robert E. Feldman
 Executive Secretary
 Attention: Comments/OES
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 or

 Department of the Treasury
 Manager, Dissemination Branch
 Information Management and Services Division
 Office of Thrift Supervision
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Department of the Treasury
 Communications Division
 Office of the Comptroller of the Currency
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 If you're so inclined, find out who your Representatives are, and e-mail
 your concerns to them as well.

 **
 I received this most disturbing email from a trusted business associate and
 friend.  I have verified its authenticity by doing research on the Web site
 (and linked web sites) indicated below.

 READ BELOW, AND, IF YOU AGREE WITH MY CONCERN, DO THE
 FOLLOWING:

 1.  Send comments to the agencies listed below, email or postal, by March
 8, 1999.  I also recommend a copy of your 

[CTRL] THIRD POLITICAL PARTY CENTRAL - MATCHMAKING SERVICE

1999-03-05 Thread Bill Richer

 -Caveat Lector-

THIRD PARTY CENTRAL - MATCHMAKING SERVICE
by Connect the Dots ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

NO, this is not a matchmaking service to find you a LOVER  It is a
service to find you a PARTY if you are sick and tired of the Democrats
and Republicans - or as some people call them - Republicrats or
Demopublicans - because they are one and the same . corrupt!!!

GO TO:
  3PC.NET Party Matchmaking Service
   http://www.3pc.net/matchmaker/index.html

--
--
Party Matchmaking Service
--
--
 Tired of all those dead-end relationships with the Democrats and the
Republicans? Perhaps you'd really like to find the 3rd party candidate of your
dreams, but maybe you just don't have the time, or maybe you just hate the
whole political meatmarket.
 With our party matchmaking service all you have to do is answer a few
simple questions about what you are looking for in a party, and we'll match
you up with several parties who would love to meet a voter just like you.

  Click here to begin

Upsetting the political machine since February 1996.

3rd Party Central is a service mark of Keynetic Systems, LLC.
Web design by Keynetic Systems © 1998.

AFTER taking this test - I came out as a Libertarian 76%.  WHY?  Yes,
I agree with the Libertarians MOST of the time, but you will notice that
there is no ABOLISH or REPEAL for these issues...

WHAT did that mean to me?  That means that there MUST be a NEW
Third Party who will EMERGE and ABOLISH or REPEAL all unconstitutional
measures that are being FORCED upon all of us.  No - we do not want to
INCREASE, OR DECREASE, OF MAINTAIN unconstitutional laws.  We want
to REPEAL them

Can we have an AMEN to this  I talked with Charles Collins yesterday.
He is a busy man - on the Radio six nights a week - and getting his office
all geared up with a new Talk Radio on the internet system.  He needs help
.
and right now needs someone to help him with his Netline to Congress (and
they can do it from their home).   Any volunteers out there?   If so, call
Charles Collins NOW at 1-800-286-0558  or (912) 994-4064  FAX 994-4066
and Volunteer your services.  His organization at present is the First
American
Constitutional Committee.

He will announce his Candidacy for U.S. President for 2000 soon!!!

   CONNECT THE DOTS
 Dot Bibee ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Knoxville, TN  Ph/FAX (423) 577-7011
"To Deny the Constitution is to Provoke Revolution"

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[CTRL] Clinton's 40th Anniversary

1999-03-05 Thread Bill Richer

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 Clinton's 40th Anniversary

Bill and Hillary are now married 40 years. When they
first got married, Bill said, "I am putting a box under
the bed. You must promise never to look in it."

In all their 40 years of marriage, Hillary never
looked. However, on the afternoon of their 40th
anniversary, curiosity got the best of her, and she
lifted the lid and peeked inside. In the box were 3
empty beer cans and $1,874.25 in cash. She closed the
box and put it back under the bed.  Now that she knew
what was in the box, she was doubly curious as to why.

That evening they were out for a special dinner. After
dinner Hillary could no longer contain her curiosity
and she confessed saying, "I am so sorry.  For all these
years I kept my promise and never looked into the box
under our bed.  However, today the temptation was too
much, and I gave in. But now I need to know why do you
keep the empty cans in the box?"

Bill thought for a while and said, "I guess after all
these years you deserve to know the truth. Whenever I
was unfaithful to you I put an empty beer can in the
box under the bed to remind myself not to do it again."

Hillary was shocked, but said, "I am very disappointed
and saddened, but I guess after all those years away
from home on the road, temptation does happen and I
guess that 3 times is not that bad considering the
years."

They hugged and made their peace. A little while later
Hillary asked Bill, "Why do you have all that money in
the box?"

Bill answered, "Whenever the box filled with empty cans,
I cashed them in."

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[CTRL] The Story Behind Taps

1999-05-30 Thread Bill Richer

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The Story Behind "Taps"

It all began in 1862 during the Civil War, when Union Army Captain Robert
Ellicombe was with his men near Harrison's Landing in Virginia. The
Confederate Army was on the other side of the narrow strip of land.

During the night, Captain Ellicombe heard the moan of a soldier who lay
mortally wounded on the field. Not knowing if it was a Union or Confederate
soldier, the captain decided to risk his life and bring the stricken man back
for medical attention.

Crawling on his stomach through the gunfire, the captain reached the
stricken soldier and began pulling him toward his encampment. When the
captain finally reached his own lines, he discovered it was actually a
Confederate soldier, but the soldier was dead.

The captain lit a lantern. Suddenly, he caught his breath and went numb  with
shock. In the dim light, he saw the face of the soldier. It was his  son. The
boy had been studying music in the South when the war broke out.
Without telling his father, he enlisted in the Confederate Army.

The following morning, heartbroken, the father asked permission of his
superiors to give his son a full military burial despite his enemy status.
His request was partially granted. The captain had asked if he could have a
group of Army band members play a funeral dirge for the son at the funeral.


That request was turned down since the soldier was a Confederate.

Out of respect for the father, they did say they could give him one
musician. The captain chose a bugler. He asked the bugler to play a series
of musical notes he had found on a piece of paper in the pocket of his dead
son's uniform.

This music was the haunting melody we now know as "Taps" that is used at all
military funerals. In case you are interested, these are the words to "Taps":

"Day is done,
Gone the sun,
From the lakes,
From the hills,
From the sky.
All is well.
Safely rest.
God is nigh."

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[CTRL] Republican Smith Won't Rule Out U.S. Third Party Run

1999-05-30 Thread Bill Richer

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Republican Smith Won't Rule Out U.S. Third Party Run
Updated 7:19 PM ET May 30, 1999
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Senator Bob Smith, a long shot for the Republican
nomination for president, said Sunday he could support only a conservative
Republican ticket and did not rule out running as a third-party candidate.

Smith, of New Hampshire, holds one of the most conservative voting records in
the Senate. In a televised interview on NBC's "Meet the Press," the
second-term senator said "there's a lot of sentiment out there for a third
party."

"I was asked, if in fact there was a third party movement to come forth,
would I lead it, and I said I wouldn't rule it out. And I'm not ruling it
out."

Asked if there were some Republican aspirants he could not support as the
Republican nominee, Smith said, "I am not going to support a candidate who is
not pro-life and I'm not going to support a ticket that has somebody on the
ticket that is not pro-life, that's not for the Second Amendment, that's not
for a strong military."

The Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, often cited in debate over
federal gun control, says, "A well-regulated militia being necessary to the
security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall
not be infringed."

Recent public opinion polls have shown Smith with only a sliver of support.
"Our campaign is moving. I'm not worried about polls," Smith said.

A former teacher and real estate agent, Smith, 57, served three terms in the
House before election to the Senate in 1990. He sponsored an unsuccessful
proposal last week in the Senate to restrict U.S. military operation in
Kosovo unless they were approved by Congress.

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[CTRL] Tell me, Mr. President

1999-05-31 Thread Bill Richer

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 A HREF="http://www.tampatrib.com/news/comm100w.htm"Click here:
http://www.tampatrib.com/news/comm100w.htm
/A

5/31/99 -- 7:10 AM
Tell me, Mr. President

--
--
Mr. President:
I'm an ardent patriot and former Vietnam fighter pilot, and I believe that
British statesman Edmund Burke was right on when he said, ``All that is
necessary for the forces of evil to prevail in the world is for enough good
men to do nothing.'' Daring to criticize your disheartening leadership is a
task not equal to the deeds of those good men we honor this Memorial Day, but
an obedient combat vet and passionate lover of America can do no less.


BOD: In Vietnam I served under a commander in chief whom history rightfully
judges harshly. You, too, for good cause, are concerned about how history
will judge you, yet you're making the same egregious errors as LBJ, ignoring
the advice of military experts and waging your version of war with all the
conceit of a political demagogue, telegraphing punches and publicizing
strategy.

Mr. President, using America's courageous aviators and their fabulous flying
machines for ``Star Wars'' visual effects on the evening news is frightfully
frivolous warfare. Employing America's awesome air power as cheap grace under
the command of General Gallup Poll will not put you among the great leaders
of history.

Hypothetically, sir, if England responded to the rebels in Ireland as Israel
and Milosevic respond to theirs, would you announce bombing attacks on the
United Kingdom? Why is the quarrel in Kosovo so much more important to
American interests than the infinitely worse genocide in Rwanda? Why should
the Serbs believe what a highly respected Democrat calls ``an unusually good
liar''? And tell me, Mr. President, why should the citizenry cut you more
slack in moral rectitude than you demand of the soldiers you command?

Back when you were doing your best to avoid becoming a vet, patriots of my
generation willingly answered our country's call to help defend a small
nation of farmers from communist aggression. Thanks to your efforts and
others', America abandoned an ally on the battlefield for the first time in
its history, leading to genocide of holocaust proportions. What did you learn
from that experience?

On The Mall in Washington, D.C., 58,200 souls, including eight of my friends,
are memorialized for doing what you lacked the courage and patriotism to do.
What, sir, is your rationale for asking today's young men to do what you
would not? How do you justify casting America's fighter pilots in harm's way
in an internal conflict far less clear-cut than the one you considered
``immoral'' in your draft-age years? On this Memorial Day, if the heroes
listed on that granite wall were to rise from their graves, how would you
explain to them your concept of duty, honor and country?

Sir, history will be hard on leaders who use wars to divert attention from
vile behavior and alarming legal questions. Fortunately for America, the
soldiers you ``loathed'' in other times still follow your orders, but they're
not dolts. They're leaving the service in droves, forcing your ``stop-loss''
order to bolt the exits.

In the twilight of the last century, Rudyard Kipling spoke to this issue when
he cast his acute poetic eye on the relationship between the soldier and a
self-absorbed British society. In ``Tommy,'' a ballad about a private in the
British Army, he concluded:

For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' ``chuck him out, the brute''

But it's ``Saviour of 'is country'' when the guns begin to shoot;

An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;

An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees!


Sir Rudyard's reasoned rhymes still rule in America. If Kipling were now in
the Colonies, he might add these verses to his classic:


When Billy was of draft age, Southeast Asia was the cause;

Tho' Uncle called, he ducked it without a moment's pause.

Now 'e's safe within the White House, the artful dodger yet,

Impeachment proof an' O so brave, when Kosovo's the bet.

For it's Tommy this an' Tommy that, but when Billy needs a boost,

'E throws Tommy to the lions, to keep the chickens off the roost.

An' it's Tommy this an' Tommy that an' any war's OK

As long as it's not Billy boy they're chuckin' in harm's way.


The good men we venerate today put God, duty, honor and country ahead of
self. History will reward you if you do likewise, sir. If not, perhaps it
will be said of us, as of Old Testament Israel in Jeremiah's day, that we
deserved you.


BOD: From the heart of a vet, --
J.D. WetterlingA HREF="http://www.jdwetterling.com/"JD Wetterling the
Author
/A

Mr. Wetterling, a stockbroker with Dean Witter in Clearwater, Fla., is the
author of a novel based on his service in Vietnam, "SON OF THUNDER" You can
visit J.D., preview his novel and read more of his moving articles by
clicking 

[CTRL] Follow Up the Cox Report

1999-05-31 Thread Bill Richer

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May 27, 1999

ESSAY / By WILLIAM SAFIRE

Follow Up the Cox Report



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Picture: In the CNN parking lot the other night, after a Larry King
telecast about the hemorrhage of our secrets to China, Representative Chris
Cox told the Senate Intelligence Committee chairman, Richard Shelby: "We're
out of business. Now it's up to you."

Here are a few questions for investigators in both houses of Congress to
pose:

To Samuel Berger, the Hogan  Hartson trade lobbyist turned national security
adviser: Why can't Congress see your memo to President Clinton summarizing
the devastating Cox report on espionage when it was submitted for security
clearance in January? With the report now public, no claim of secrecy can
properly be made.

Clinton pretended two months ago to have been uninformed of wholesale
espionage. Did Berger's January cover memo truly reflect the Cox report's
revelations, or did it lull the President into a false sense of national
security?

To Bill Richardson, Energy Secretary since September 1998: You were briefed
on espionage suspicions in November, and received the Cox report in January.
Did you never have occasion to mention its serious implications on China
policy to the President? You knew Secretary of State Albright was going to
China in February; why did you withhold it from her? Did the White House
suggest she be kept ignorant, or was it your own idea?

To F.B.I. Director Louis Freeh: Attorney General Janet Reno says "I was not
apprised of the details of the case at the time the decision was made" to
reject wiretap surveillance of Wen Ho Lee at Los Alamos. Didn't you think
this was important enough to take to the top? She also says your 1997 request
"did not contain a request to search any computer." If that is true, why not?

To the Senate Democratic leader, Tom Daschle: The bipartisan Cox report
charges the White House with failing to inform Congress, but you say
"Republican chairs of the Congress were warned about this as early as 1996
and also chose to do nothing." Did you read those "warnings" before accusing
Senator Arlen Specter and Representative Porter Goss of failing in their
intelligence oversight duties? Can the public now see if those staff
briefings were complete?

To Dan Burton, chairman of the House Government Reform and Oversight
Committee: With Reno Justice allowing all Clinton's illegal Asian
fund-raisers to cop a plea and walk, you've subpoenaed Charlie Trie for June
10 and John Huang for June 17. Will you allow the ranking Democrat, Henry
Waxman, to turn hearings into a partisan circus, or will you depose Trie and
Huang extensively beforehand to discover links to Bruce Lindsey, the D.N.C.'s
Don Fowler and Hillary's Harold Ickes?

To George Tenet, Director of Central Intelligence: You reported to Cox that
information on China's theft of our W-88 nuclear warhead design came from a
"walk-in" planted by Chinese intelligence. That's counterintuitive
counterintelligence; does nobody in C.I.A. dispute the "dangle" theory? Where
is he now, and is he (or she) singing?

To Richard Shelby and Bob Kerrey of Senate Intelligence: The Cox report ran
900 pages, but nearly 400 pages were cut out by the Clinton sanitizers. Was
all of this really for security reasons, or do many redactions cover C.I.A.,
F.B.I. and White House embarrassments?

To Senator Robert Torricelli, Democrat of New Jersey: You told CBS's Bob
Schieffer that Clinton should talk to Reno about "her ability to perform her
duties." Are you worrying about her judgment under a physical affliction, or
making a nonpartisan judgment on sustained misfeasance at Justice -- or
helping the White House toss her off the sled to save Sandy Berger?

The biggest question is this: Will we fall for the usual "it's old news" and
"everybody did it" defenses? Or will we connect the dots from the (a) corrupt
Asian and satellite-producer contributions to the (b) refusal to stop the
theft of nuclear codes lest it offend Beijing to the (c) change of policy to
sell China powerful computers capable of using those codes to simulate tests?

The House is being serious. What about the Senate?

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[CTRL] BUCHANAN TO CONGRESS: JUST SAY NO TO MFN

1999-06-03 Thread Bill Richer

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Buchanan 2000
For Immediate Release: Thursday, June 3, 1999

BUCHANAN TO CONGRESS: JUST SAY NO TO MFN

NEW YORK, NY -- Today, Presidential candidate Patrick J. Buchanan
released the following statement:

"For Mr. Clinton to again ask Congress to give China Most Favored Nation
trade status, which means another $58 billion trade surplus for Beijing in
1999, after China deliberately trashed our embassy and held our ambassador
a virtual hostage, represents a low point in American diplomacy.  Mr. Clinton
has shown himself to be not only an incompetent steward of America's
national security secrets, but a derelict defender of her national honor.

"Congress can no longer abdicate its role in shaping U.S. policy toward
Communist China.  Both the House and Senate should move to suspend
Most Favored Nation trade status for Beijing.  A regime that persecutes
Christians, targets missiles on Taiwan, deploys ICBMs against our
homeland, steals our nuclear secrets, and corrupts our elections is neither a
friend nor a 'strategic partner' of the United States.  For our own
self-respect,
the Clinton kowtowing to this brutalitarian regime must stop.

"It is time for the Republican Party to put country before commerce and
cease permitting itself to be perceived as simply the supine PAC of the U.S.
Chamber of Commerce."

For more information contact Bob Adams or John Aquino at (703) 734-2700.

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[CTRL] MANY EVENTS TO WATCH....TODAY!!!!

1999-06-03 Thread Bill Richer

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ALERT:  June 3, 1999
MANY EVENTS TO WATCHTODAY

The BILDERBERGER (Secret Meeting) will be held in Sintra, Portugal,
starting today June 3-6, 1999.  For the list of attendees please go to
WorldNetDaily - (http://www.worldnetdaily.com) and ask for the report
dated May 26, 1999, entitled, "Clinton, Pope John Join Bilderbergers".
Lead in sentence in the report:   "What do Steven Spielberg, Pope
John Paul II, Ted Turner, Boris Yeltsin, Bill Clinton and House Speaker
Dennis Haster have in common?  They are among those on a "partial
guest list" of expected attendees to the 1999 Bilderberger meeting in
Portugal...".

The DRUDGE REPORT is planning to release a world exclusive report on an
upcoming media event at High Noon Eastern Time on Thursday(see
http://www.drudgereport.com)

This is the LATEST DRUDGE release on June 2, 1999 - last night:
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm
Clark Says NATO Troops to Enter Kosovo in "Days"
 TIRANA (Wed Jun 02 1999 23:08:46 UTC) XINHUA - The supreme
commander of NATO, Wesley Clark, said Wednesday in the Macedonian
capital of Skopje that NATO troops will enter Kosovo in just a few days.
He made the remark after meeting with Macedonian President Kiro
Gligorov. Clark said that he discussed with Gligorov the issue of increasing
NATO troops in the country and the situation in Kosovo.  He said that
Macedonia has agreed to admit additional 14,000 NATO troops for peace-
keeping mission in the southern Serbian province of Yugoslavia.
 If the situation turns complicated, the NATO troops can force their way
into Kosovo without agreement from Yugoslavia, he threatened.   With the
new deployment, which Clark said will take several weeks to complete, the
total NATO troops in Macedonia will amount to 30,000.  He said that air
strikes will continue until Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic accepts
all the conditions set by NATO.
 U.S. President Bill Clinton announced Wednesday to send 7,000 U.S.
soldiers to Macedonia, half of the additional 14,000 troops NATO has
planned to deploy in the former republic of Yugoslavia.
 From Skopje, Clark flew to Tirana's Rinas Airport, "the hawk base" of
NATO troops in Albania, to conduct his routine weekly visit.   A spokesman
for the NATO troops in Albania said that Clark made a detailed assessment
on the troops' preparedness for their missions in Yugoslavia.
===
Watch live on CNN: NATO briefing, 9 a.m. ET (1300 GMT)
•EU leaders await results of Belgrade peace talks
• Solzhenitsyn: No difference between NATO's actions and Hitler's
•Clinton increases U.S. troops for Kosovo force
 ===
All this on top of the news this morning that the Serbia parliament has
accepted the peace plan negotiated by the Russian delegation.
Very interestingSTAY ALERT!!!   STAY PREPARED!!!
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[CTRL] William Jefferson Clinton:

1999-06-05 Thread Bill Richer

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From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cliff Hume)

To get a better understanding of the traitor in the White House and those in
the Congress, the Senate and other elective and appointed offices of those
who have sworn to protect and to defend the Constitution, the following
should be read and understood. In approximately 1350 words, it tells the
people what is happening to their country and their freedom. Bill Clinton
and approximately three hundred members of the Council on Foreign Relations
have been stacking the deck against freedom - illegally. CHH.

To get a better understanding and appreciation of our Constitution,
one needs to travel back in time and into the very shoes of our
Founding Fathers to realize the state of mind that they had and the
reasons for drafting such a document. To be as accurate as possible
I will refer to a well known document and that is "The Declaration
of Independence 1776." One must read the entire document which is
short and concise containing approximately 1350 words. I will,
however, list a few facts directly from the document to give you an
idea of the abuse and oppression they were under from the King of
England.
Quote---

 - He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by
 refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary
 Powers.
 - He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the
 tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of
 their salaries.
 - He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent
 hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat
 out their substance.
 - He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing
 Armies without the Consent of our legislature.
 - He has affected to render the Military independent of
 and superior to the Civil power.
 - He has combined with others to subject us to a
 jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and
 unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their
 Acts of pretended Legislation.
 - For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
 - For protecting them, by a mock trial, from punishment
 for any Murders which they should commit on the
 inhabitants of these States:
 - For cutting off our Trade from all parts of the world:
 - For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
 - For depriving us in many cases, the benefits of Trial
 by Jury:
 - For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for
 pretended offenses:
 - For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most
 valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of
 our Government:
 - He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out
 of his Protection and waging War against us.
 - He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt
 our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
 - He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign
 Mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation
 and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty
 and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous
 ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized
 nation.
 - He has excited domestic insurrections among us...
 - In every stage of these suppressions We have Petitioned
 for Redress in the most humble terms.
 Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by
 repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked
 by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be
 the ruler of a free people.

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[CTRL] ACTION: CAMPAIGN TO REMOVE RENO

1999-06-05 Thread Bill Richer

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ACTION: CAMPAIGN TO REMOVE RENO
I thinks Pat Buchanan says it right:  Reno Must Explain or Go.
Please send this letter to Congress Members  Media (addy's included).
  SAMPLE LETTER:
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Dear Congress Member, (Media Representative,)

Consider this my Vote to get rid of Janet Reno NOW!!
I think this says it best:

BUCHANAN TO RENO: EXPLAIN OR GO

COLUMBUS, OHIO--Presidential candidate Patrick J. Buchanan today
called on Atty. Gen. Janet Reno either to take responsibility for the Justice
Department's astonishing failure to wiretap suspected Chinese spy Wen Ho
Lee or identify and dismiss the subordinates she blames for not fully
briefing her.

"By Ms. Reno's own admission, when the FBI sought to wiretap Lee in
1997, the Justice Department refused, and even after the FBI revised the
application twice, it was still not approved," Mr. Buchanan said.  "Some
400 other wiretap warrants were rubber-stamped, but the request to
investigate what has since become the greatest security breach in history
was inexplicably rejected.  Why?"

"Ms. Reno's assertion that she was not briefed is an inadequate defense for
her department's incompetence, and claiming that the FBI did not make a
compelling case is unacceptable," Mr. Buchanan said. " The Attorney
General must either take responsibility for her feckless stewardship or
remove those derelict in their duty."  [End Excerpt]

This states it exactly.  Our Choice: RENO, PLEASE RESIGN!!!

American Seeking Justice,
  (your name)


PLEASE CONTACT CONGRESS  THE MEDIA UNTIL SHE'S GONE:
Capitol switchboard TOLL FREE at 1-888-449-3511  1-800-FELIX-49
1-800-972-3524 (House only). And email all Congress at once from:
A HREF="http://in-search-of.org"In Search Of.Org/A
http://In-search-of.org

And in case the lack of allowing the wiretap is not enough, here's some
additional and DEFINITIVE RENO FACTS from one of the 3 organizers of
the MARCHES ON WASHINGTON, Garland Favorito.

You might want to contact your local paper with this information for an
OP-ED piece.  Or condense it into additional letters. Or send it all to the
newspaper/media addys and Congress.  (Media addys after post):
-

SUMMARY OF IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE ALLEGATIONS JANET RENO

We the people, present these charges against Attorney General Janet Reno:

1. DERILICTION OF DUTY (Ruby Ridge, Idaho - 1992)
Janet Reno refused to support the conclusion of a Justice Dept.
investigation that found an FBI sniper shot which killed Vicki Weaver was
unconstitutional. Senate testimony showed that an FBI sniper killed Vicki
Weaver by shooting her in the head as she held her baby while standing with
the door open on her front porch. The FBI snipers were shooting at the

Weavers from over 200 yards away using rifles with 10 power scopes. The
snipers and assistant FBI director Larry Potts, testified that they had the
right to shoot and kill anyone if that person was holding a gun. Chairman
Spector pointed out that such a situation did not warrant the use of deadly
force according to FBI policy. On the House floor, Idaho representative,
Helen Chenoweth, called for the resignation of Potts who was also
responsible for the WACO disaster and a personal friend of FBI Director
Freeh, the Reno appointee. Randy Weaver’s attorney called for Lon Horiuchi,
the sniper, to be tried for murder based on the Justice Dept. investigation.
Instead Horiuchi and Potts received paid leave for over two years. (SENATE
RUBY RIDGE SIEGE INVESTIGATION)

2. FAILURE TO UPHOLD THE 4TH AMENDMENT OF THE U.S. CONSTITUTION (Waco,
Texas - 1993)
Janet Reno approved the CS military gas attack that led to the deaths of
over 80 men, women and children who had never been charged with any crime.
She also stated that she "could not find anything wrong" with FBI actions in
Waco despite overwhelming video based evidence that the FBI was responsible
for the deaths of the Davidians. An aerial video tape shows a tank
destroying a Davidian building while people were still inside. Autopsy
reports indicate that six bodies found in the rubble of that building were
crushed to death. The Forward Looking Infared (FLIR) tape clearly shows heat
images from bullets being fired at the Davidians as they tried to escape
from the burning buildings. Janet Reno also could find no violation of the
Posse Comitatus act which expressly prohibits the use of military equipment
and personnel to enforce laws against American citizens unless authorized by
the U.S. Constitution or act of Congress. (HOUSE BRANCH DAVIDIAN INCIDENT
INVESTIGATION, RULES OF ENGAGEMENT - WILLIAM GAZECKI)

3. ABUSE OF POWER (Firing of all U.S. Attorneys - 1993)
Janet Reno fired all 94 United States Attorneys, a move unprecedented in
American history, shortly after her appointment in March 1993.  She stated
that the replacement of all U.S. Attorneys was a "joint decision" with the
White House. The liaison with the White House was the third highest ranking
Justice Dept. official, associate attorney 

[CTRL] Executive Order 13107

1999-06-05 Thread Bill Richer

 -Caveat Lector-

•

Joseph Farah is editor of WorldNetDaily.com and executive director of the
Western Journalism Center, an independent group of investigative reporters.


Executive Order 13107


From where do our rights descend? The Bill of Rights? No. The Constitution?
No. The Federal government? No. The United Nations? Certainly not.

But, apparently, that's what Bill Clinton thinks. For earlier this month,
Dec. 10 to be exact, he issued another one of his infamous executive orders
-- this time on "the implementation of human rights treaties." In Executive
Order 13107, Clinton sets up a new federal bureaucracy for the purpose of
implementing U.N. treaties, whether ratified by the U.S. Senate or not. And
that federal bureaucracy will implement the treaties on the U.N.'s terms.

Sound like a deal? It gets worse.

Though President Clinton said he issued the order to further his goal of
promoting human rights around the world, it's important to understand exactly
how the U.N. defines "human rights."

That definition is offered in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights,
which talks about the right to freedom of thought, conscience, religion,
opinion, and expression. All good stuff, until you realize whom the ultimate
authority is. Who is the sovereign that imparts such blessings upon the
populace of the world?

The answer to that question is stated unequivocally in article 29 of the U.N.
document, which states: "These rights and freedoms may in no case be
exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations."

That pretty much explains who the "massa" is and where the plantation
boundaries end. What a stark contrast between the U.N. Declaration of Human
Rights, and the founding documents of the United States of America. The
Declaration of Independence and Constitution both make it clear that basic
human rights are inalienable, meaning they descend from the ultimate
Sovereign, the Creator, God. Therefore, no human authority, no government, no
criminal, no individual can abrogate or abridge those rights.

Remember, any right government can bestow upon a people, it can just as
easily take away. This is a profound principle Americans have forgotten. The
day they accept the principle that rights descend from government authority
is the day they lose their freedoms. It's as simple as that.

In effect, that is what Executive Order 13107 decrees. It's an attempt by
Bill Clinton to persuade Americans that human rights descend not from God but
from worldly government authorities -- with the ultimate authority
represented by the United Nations.

In other words, the U.N. believes people have the right to dissent, unless
it's a dissent against the United Nations. It reminds me of the old Soviet
model. There it was even more bluntly stated: "There can be no place for
freedom of speech, press, and so on for the foes of socialism." Basically,
the U.N. has rewritten that maxim: "There can be no place for freedom of
speech, press, and so on for the foes of the United Nations."

The U.N. practices what it preaches, too. In Bosnia, the U.N. forces have
seized control of radio and TV stations broadcasting pro-Serbian news and
propaganda. In fact, U.S. troops participated in those raids. How does one
justify such actions under the U.S. Constitution, which explicitly recognizes
the rights of all people -- not just Americans -- to speak their minds and
express themselves freely?

Welcome to the Brave New World of U.N. doublespeak. And President Clinton is
dragging the U.S. deeper into this quagmire than has any other president in
history.

Not only does Executive Order 13107 promote an unworthy and dangerous goal,
but the road to that objective, namely the executive order itself the way
Bill Clinton has employed it, is a corrupt and unconstitutional process.

Executive orders are supposed to be a presidential tool for running the
executive branch of government. Clinton has used them freely during his terms
in office to make policy affecting other branches of government, the states,
and individuals. Now, with 13107, he's attempting to implement international
treaties! Executive orders were never intended to be used as imperial orders.

Once again, though, the only people with the authority to curb the misuse of
executive orders are the members of Congress, who have 30 days from the
issuance of an order to reject it by majority vote. Trouble is, they seldom
bother to read them. And the press seldom bothers to cover them -- even when
they represent sweeping new interpretations of human rights and compromises
of U.S. national sovereignty.

It's time for Congress not only to reject Executive Order 13107, but also to
review, in the context of the ongoing impeachment process, all of President
Clinton's more than 200 executive orders. In both substance and in intent,
they represent one of the worst abuses of power in an administration
characterized by abuse of power.

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[CTRL] 2 Questions

1999-06-11 Thread Bill Richer

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Friends:
1) Someone recently put executive orders out with a quote from JFK,
Can you resend to me?  2) I remember after reelection of Clinton, Hiliary
Clinton said something to the effect that people would know what he Clinton's
were all about after second term.  Can anyone get exact quote of what she
said?

Thanks
Bill Richer

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[CTRL] FBI Investigates PC E-Mail Virus

1999-06-12 Thread Bill Richer

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FBI Investigates PC E-Mail Virus
Macintosh, Unix Systems Seem Safe

By BRUCE MEYERSON
.c The Associated Press

NEW YORK (June 11) - The FBI on Friday tried to trace the source of a
file-destroying software bug that has hit tens of thousands of computers,
while software companies posted new virus-killing programs on their Web
sites.

The Worm.Explore.Zip bug disguises itself as a friendly piece of e-mail,
similar to the recent Melissa virus, which infected hundreds of thousands of
machines. However, there were signs Friday that it may not be spreading as
fast as Melissa.

Computer security experts were still trying to assess the outbreak, which
even infiltrated computer systems at technology leaders such as Compaq
Computer and Motorola, as well as major companies including ATT, Boeing and
General Electric.

First detected early this week, Worm.Explore.Zip fools people by masquerading
as a message from a friend or acquaintance. It contains an attached file
that, when opened, unleashes a malicious program that can wipe out the
contents of documents, spreadsheets, graphic presentations and other
important files created by Microsoft programs.

But thanks to the run-ins with the Melissa and Chernobyl viruses earlier this
spring, computer systems managers reacted more quickly when word of
Worm.Explore.Zip began to spread.

``We continue to get direct reports, but they're not increasing at the rate
it might have, so we're encouraged by that,'' said Mark Zajicek, a member of
the Computer Emergency Response Team at the Software Engineering Institute at
Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh.

Zajicek warned, however, that computer users still need to be cautious about
any e-mail with an attachment.

``It's too early to tell how far it's already spread and difficult to tell
how far it will spread in the coming days and weeks,'' he said.

The FBI issued a warning on its Web site.

``Users should exercise caution when reading their e-mail for the next few
days and bring unusual messages to the attention of their system
administrator,'' said Michael A. Vatis, director of the FBI's National
Infrastructure Protection Center. ``The transmission of a virus can be a
criminal matter, and the FBI is investigating.''

Worm.Explore.Zip is the third major bug to sweep across the Internet since
late March, when the Melissa virus overwhelmed systems with floods of e-mail.
A more damaging virus named Chernobyl struck in late April, but did most of
its harm overseas.

The new bug is only known to attack computers using Microsoft operating
systems Windows 95, Windows 98, and Windows NT. Rival operating systems such
as Macintosh and Unix apparently are not vulnerable.

The bug also contaminates a computer's e-mail program and sends a copy of
itself as a reply to any incoming e-mail.

That aspect of the Worm.Explore.Zip makes the bug particularly threatening
for companies with large computer networks where workers regularly zip
e-mails back and forth.

``Once the virus has started within an organization, it embeds itself into
the system,'' said Jan Kaminski, president of FastLane Technologies, a maker
of computer network software in Halifax, Nova Scotia. ``There's nothing you
can do until you actually remove some files from the machine.''

Software companies said the bug was first detected in Israel earlier this
week and has reached at least 12 countries.

Early warnings helped ATT, Compaq and GE contain the damage Thursday when
their computer systems were infected, while Microsoft said it shut down its
corporate e-mail system for two hours as a precaution.

At Boeing, the company shut down an e-mail system that links 160,000
computers.

``We're hopeful we got things shut down fast enough so it will minimize the
loss of any documents,'' said spokesman Dave Suffia.

At Lucent Technologies, which makes telecommunications equipment, strange
messages began appearing on computers on Thursday morning, said spokesman
John Skalko, who inadvertently activated Worm.Explore.Zip on his computer.

``That was enough. I lost all my (Microsoft Word) files,'' said Skalko,
estimating that 150 documents were destroyed. At least 20 to 30 other
computers were stricken by the virus before Lucent technicians shut down the
e-mail system and inoculated it.

``I think we nipped it in the bud,'' said Skalko.

Worm.Explore.Zip arrives with a friendly message: ``Hi (Recipient Name)! I
received your e-mail and I shall send you a reply ASAP. Till then, take a
look at the attached zipped docs.''

The message is harmless unless a person opens the ``zipped docs,'' a term
referring to a compressed file sent with the e-mail.

By opening that file, a person unknowingly activates the bug.

Because of the way it works, Worm.Explore.Zip actually does not fit the
technical definition of a computer virus.

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[CTRL] EXECUTIVE ORDERS NOW IN EFFECT

1999-06-12 Thread Bill Richer

 -Caveat Lector-

EXECUTIVE ORDERS NOW IN EFFECT

(Check them one by one against The Communist 'Manifesto),

1 . Executive Order 10995 - Takes over all communications media.

2. Executive order 10997 - Takes over all electric power, petroleum, gas,
fuel and minerals.

3. Executive Order 10998 - Takes over all food resources and farms.

4. Executive order 10999. - Takes over all means of transportation,
controls highways and seaports.

5. Executive order 11000 - Drafts all citizens into work forces under
government supervision (slave labor).

6. Executive Order 11001 - Takes over all health, welfare and educational
functions.

7. Executive Order 11002 - Empowers the Post Office General to register
all citizens nationwide.

8. Executive Order 11003 - Takes over all airports and aircraft.

9. Executive Order 11004 - Takes over housing and finance authorities and
housing designated as "unsafe"; establishes new locations for populations;
builds new housing with public funds.

10. Executive Order 11005 - Takes over all railroads, inland waterways
and public storage facilities.

11. Executive order- 11051 - Designates responsibilities of the Office of
Emergency Planning giving authorization to put the above orders into
effect in times of increased international tension or economic crisis (any
time they want to).

Then comes the Big One:

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11490 - all of the above orders are immediately activated.

President John F. Kennedy, at Columbia University in 1963 said it
perfectly  "The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot
to destroy America's freedom, and before I leave this office, I must inform
the citizens of their plight."

Ten days later, President Kennedy was eliminated.

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[CTRL] More on Kosovo

1999-06-14 Thread Bill Richer

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Marines enter Kosovo; Serbs burn homes

•14,000 allied troops in place •Milosevic: The worst is over •Dead
journalists identified

By Melissa Eddy
The Associated Press
June 14, 1999 7:51 p.m. CDT

PRISTINA, Yugoslavia (AP) -- Ducking at the sound of gunfire, patrolling
cautiously to avoid the ire of Serbs, thousands of NATO peacekeepers spread
out Monday across Kosovo. Some uncovered grim evidence of atrocities as they
tightened their control of the province.

Serb forces complying with the pullout ordered by NATO to end the 78-day air
war mixed in with civilians fleeing in columns up to 500 vehicles long. Some
ethnic Albanian homes were set ablaze by Serb troops leaving Kosovo.

Aiming to bring a measure of stability to the province shattered by war and a
long history of ethnic hatred, NATO and U.S. forces sought to downplay the
impasse over about 200 Russian soldiers occupying the Pristina airfield where
the allies planned to establish headquarters.

NATO lead commander Lt. Gen. Michael Jackson insisted the airfield wasn't
crucial to occupying forces though the White House said Defense Secretary
William Cohen and Secretary of State Madeleine Albright will meet their
Russian counterparts in Helsinki, Finland, within days.

Kosovo's Serbs fear that the majority ethnic Albanians will take bloody
revenge on them for years of oppression and for reported atrocities. The
West, meanwhile, fears that a Russian zone will lead to the partition of
Kosovo.

Refugees who began streaming out of Kosovo after the NATO bombing campaign
began March 24 told of Serb slaughter and the massacre of innocent victims.

The accounts could not be independently confirmed at the time and one of the
peacekeepers' grueling tasks will be to investigate what happened. On Monday,
they gingerly probed the town cemetery in Kacanik, where the stench of
decayed flesh hung heavy over 81 apparently newly dug graves.

British Capt. Andy Reeds said war crimes investigators would be called in to
examine the site, 30 miles south of Pristina.

Peacekeepers continued to pour into the battered Serbian province from
neighboring Macedonia and Albania, and officials said about 15,000 allied
troops had entered Kosovo by Monday.

"The deployment of KFOR is on schedule," said NATO Secretary General Javier
Solana. "The withdrawal of the Serbian forces is also on time."

A convoy of 1,200 U.S. Marines began crossing just south of Kacanik at first
light, and U.S. forces took over the area, including the site of the graves,
from the British troops.

"We were all a little edgy going in," said Cpl. Will Rapier, 20, of
Paintsville, Ky., with the 3rd Battalion, 8th Marines. "We just hope to get
this thing over so we can all go home."

Despite the tensions, Monday's troop movements went off without a repeat of
Sunday's pair of fatal confrontations, when soldiers shot a Serb in Pristina
and German forces killed one man and wounded another after the men fired at
them from a car in the city of Prizren.

On Monday, Serb citizens poured out of Prizren, Kosovo's second-largest city,
taunted by ethnic Albanians who erupted into a wild victory celebration.

German soldiers disarmed several members of the Kosovo Liberation Army, the
ethnic Albanian guerrilla group, as they tried to seize wounded Serb soldiers
at the main Prizren hospital.

The KLA is supposed to demilitarize under the Kosovo peace agreement, but the
group boldly set up an office in Pristina on Monday.

The private news agency Beta reported Monday that three Serbs were killed by
men wearing KLA armbands in a suburb of Pristina. The Serb-run Media Center
said it had a report of five people killed in the same suburb but did not
have details.

The center blamed the KLA for killing a Serb employee of Pristina's
television station in front of his home Monday night in the Taslidze section
of the city. The Serb report gave no other details of the attack

Italian troops entered the city of Pec, the seat of the Serbian Orthodox
Church in Kosovo and the scene of some of the grimmest accounts of slaughter
in recent months.

Yugoslav troops withdrew from the city on Monday after a spree of
home-burnings and alleged rapes, whooping on the way out.

Two German journalists were shot dead by unidentified gunman Sunday 15 miles
south of Pristina. The German newsweekly Stern identified them as
photographer Volker Kraemer, 56, and reporter Gabriel Gruener, 35. The
magazine said the team's interpreter was missing.

In Pristina, an impasse over its strategic airport continued.

Russia's role in the envisaged 50,000-member peacekeeping force, which
includes 7,000 Americans, was not clearly defined in the peace plan. A
contingent of 200 Russian troops arrived unexpectedly from Bosnia on
Saturday, ahead of NATO troops, and took control of the airport.

Jackson said Monday that he did not regard the presence of the Russians as
important from a military standpoint.

"I'm not in a tussle with them," he said. "They 

[CTRL] END PAPER JUNK MAIL

1999-04-12 Thread Bill Richer

 -Caveat Lector-

*****END PAPER JUNK MAIL

Here it is.  Some of this information is from the Consumer Research
Institute,
and much is from my own personal experience.

This is a complete reference list, so don't let its length daunt you.
EVEN IF YOU ONLY FOLLOW THE TOP 2 OR 3 SUGGESTIONS, you will rid your
household
of a substantial amount of junk mail.  But if you are one of those hard
core
anti-junk mail types who is interested in truly ending junk mail (like I
am),
follow all of these steps and enjoy the 99.44% junk-free good life!

Just being aware not to freely give out your name, address and phone
number
every time a business asks for it is the best thing you can do to curb
the
amount of junk mail (and telemarketing calls...) you receive.

Good luck!

* * * * * *

End Junk Mail

It requires time, paper, postage, envelopes, and awareness, but IT REALLY
WORKS!
A little bit of elbow grease will save you many, many hours of future
junk mail
handling and disposal.  By following these tips you will literally
conserve TONS
of paper and vast amounts of water and other precious resources per year,
which
has a direct and substantially positive effect on our environment.


1.  First and foremost, contact the Direct Marketing Association's (DMA)
Mail
Preference Service, P.O. Box 9008, Farmingdale, NY 11735-9008 and have
them
include you in their "delete" file which is sent to subscribing
organizations
several times a year.  DMA is the largest existing source of junk mail.


2.  To stop receiving those PRE-APPROVED credit card offers, contact the
"big
three" credit organizations and tell them to remove your name and address
from
all lists they sell, rent, or give out to other organizations for
soliciting
purposes.  You can do this by calling 1-888-567-8688, which will remove
your
name from all three lists, or you can contact them separately to the
addresses
and phone numbers below.

Equifax Options
Equifax Marketing Decision Systems
P.O. Box 740123
Atlanta, GA 30374-0123
(800) 556-4711 (California only)

Experian (TRW)
Target Marketing Services Division
Attn: Consumer Opt-Out
P.O. Box 919
Allen, TX 75013
(800)-EXPERIAN (397-3742)

Trans Union
Name Removal Option
P.O. Box 7245
Fullerton, CA 92637
(800) 680-7293


3.  Contact every organization you belong to or do business with and tell
them
to please have your name, address, and other account information used
only for
the matters directly relating to your account and that you do not want
them to
use, sell, rent, or give your account information to other organizations
for
soliciting purposes.  (Mortgage company, catalog and magazine companies,
frequent flyer or travel programs, cable TV, phone company, car
insurance, etc.)
Anyone who sends you a bill may be selling your name.  Don't forget about
your
personal bank and credit card company, as they are the source of huge
amounts of
junk mail (Citibank and American Express are the worst offenders).


4.  Don't unconsciously and automatically give out your full name,
address,
social security number or phone number just because someone asks you for
it.
Only give out information that is truly needed for the purpose at hand,
and no
more.


5.  Write the following organizations and let them know that you want
your name
and/or address removed from all of their direct marketing lists.  If junk
mail
is addressed to "current resident", make sure you tell them you are the
only
current resident.  Many of these companies subscribe to DMA, but junk
mail will
cease much sooner if you write to them directly.

Advo Incorporated
Delivery Services
1001 W. Walnut Street
Compton, CA 90220-5191

-OR-

Advo, Inc.
One Univac Lane
Windsor, CT  06095
(they do coupons, product samples, etc.)

Val-Pak Coupons
Direct Marketing
P.O. Box 13428
St. Petersburg, FL 33733

-OR-

Val-Pak Direct
Marketing Systems, Inc.
PO Box 93505
Las Vegas, NV  89193-3505
(they do local coupons)

Harte-Hanks (Pennysaver or Potpourri)
2830 Orbiter St.
Brea, CA 92821

Cox Direct / Carol Wright
P.O. Box 13428
St. Petersburg, FL 33733
(include your mailing label)

Donnelly Database Ops.
1235 N. Ave.
Nevada, IA 50201

And if you're a resident of the Bay Area:

The Adworks for San Francisco
P.O. Box 225002
San Francisco, CA  94122
(they do local coupons)

Great Expectations
San Francisco/Marin County Centre
P.O. Box 995
Horsham, PA  19044-9442
(dating service direct marketing)


6.  Notify these Mailing List Brokers and ask to be placed in their
"suppress"
files:

R.L. Polk  Company
Attn:  Name Deletion File
List Compilation and Development
6400 Monroe Boulevard
Taylor, MI 48180-1814

MetroMail Corporation
List Maintenance
901 West Bond
Lincoln, NE 68521

Database America
Compilation Department
100 Paragon Drive
Montvale, NJ 07645-4591


7.  Contact each company that sends junk mail to your address (write to
the
return mailing address, don't use biz reply) and tell them to remove your
name
and/or address from their marketing list, 

[CTRL] Clinton being a liar finally is lawfully official

1999-04-12 Thread Bill Richer

 -Caveat Lector-

Clinton Found in Contempt

   Judge Raps President for Deposition in Jones Case

President Clinton reaches into a crowd of military personnel
after his address at Barksdale Air Force Base. Hours later, a federal judge
found Clinton in contempt of court over his testimony in the Paula Jones
case. (Bill Haber/AP Photo)

  ABCNEWS.com
  W A S H I N G T O N, April 12 — The Paula Jones sexual harassment case
returned to haunt President Clinton today when a federal judge found him in
contempt of court for lying under oath about Monica Lewinsky.
   Judge Susan Webber Wright ruled the president in contempt for
“willful failure” to obey her repeated orders to testify truthfully.
   “The record demonstrates by clear and convincing evidence that
the president responded to plaintiffs’ questions by giving false, misleading
and evasive answers that were designed to obstruct the judicial process.”
   In the civil contempt finding, Judge Susan Webber Wright ruled
Clinton will have to cover at least some of Jones’ legal costs.
   The contempt issue was first raised last September, when Wright
aired her “concerns” about Clinton’s deposition in the Jones case, during
which he denied having had a sexual relationship with Lewinsky.
   In the deposition, Clinton said flatly, “I have never had sexual
relations with Monica Lewinsky.”
   Wright wrote in her ruling that, “It is difficult to construe the
president’s sworn statements ... as anything other than a willful refusal to
obey this court’s discovery orders.”
   “Simply put, the president’s deposition testimony regarding
whether he had ever been alone with Ms. Lewinsky was intentionally false and
his statements regarding whether he had ever engaged in sexual relations
with Ms. Lewinsky likewise were intentionally false.”
   Consideration of the contempt issue was put off during Clinton’s
impeachment trial, which also centered around the president’s handling of
the Lewinsky affair. But shortly after the Senate acquitted Clinton, Wright
hinted in the footnote of another ruling that she would take steps “to
preserve the integrity of the Court’s proceedings and provide a means of
enforcement of its orders.”
   Wright, one of Clinton’s former law students, tossed Jones’ suit
out of court last April. Jones appealed the ruling, but agreed to settle
after Clinton offered to pay $850,000.
   Jones alleged that, while she worked as an Arkansas state
employee in 1991, then-Gov. Clinton dropped his pants and asked her to
perform oral sex upon him in a Little Rock hotel room. Clinton denied the
accusations and has attacked the case as politically motivated.
   Ironically, it was the defunct Jones case that first uncovered
Clinton’s relationship with Lewinsky and led later to his impeachment.
  White House producer Josh Gerstein contributed to this report.

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[CTRL] Kevorkian Sentenced To 10-25 Years In Prison

1999-04-13 Thread Bill Richer

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Kevorkian Sentenced To 10-25 Years In Prison
(Last updated 2:56 PM ET April 13)


PONTIAC, Mich. (Reuters) - A U.S. judge Tuesday sentenced Dr. Jack Kevorkian
to 10-25 years in prison following his second-degree murder conviction last
month for fatally injecting a terminally-ill man.

In handing out her sentence, Oakland County Circuit Judge Jessica Cooper told
the 70-year-old retired pathologist that he should consider his crusade to
legalize euthanasia and assisted suicide to be at an end. Kevorkian earned
the nickname "Dr. Death" from helping at least 130 people end their lives
since 1990.

Kevorkian said he acted to relieve the suffering of Thomas Youk, 52, who
suffered from amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, a fatal illness also known as
Lou Gehrig's disease. Jurors rejected that defense, agreeing with prosecutors
that Kevorkian's actions fit the definition of murder.

Cooper's sentence was in line with what prosecutors had requested, but
harsher than what the state's probation department had recommended. Defense
attorneys, following emotional comments from Youk's widow and brother in
support of Kevorkian, had asked that Kevorkian be given a maximum suspended
sentence of one year and a day.

Cooper also sentenced Kevorkian to 3-7 years for his conviction on the charge
of delivering a controlled substance without a license. She rejected a
defense motion to release him on bond pending an appeal of the murder
conviction.

Kevorkian, who began his right-to-die crusade in 1990, was acquitted of
assisted suicide charges in three previous trials. A fourth trial ended in a
mistrial. Kevorkian declined to speak prior to being sentenced and watched
stone-faced as Cooper handed down her sentence.

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[CTRL] New Video from AIM - The Clinton Legacy

1999-04-13 Thread Bill Richer

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Dear Friends:
  Accuracy In Media's Don Irvine has sent me a video to view and to
tell you about!   It's entitled, "The Clinton Legacy."  It is a excellent
video that details many of the scandals of Clinton Administration including
Whitewater, FBI Files (Filegate), Abuse of IRS (this part was very
enlightening),  Bribery and China.  This video shows the deep corruption and
lack of principle Clinton and his gang have run the White House since he has
been in office since 1992.  After viewing this video I know that we all can
see that morality and character does count!
  You can acquire this video to gain more information and/or show it
to your friends who think Clinton is a swell guy.  This should awaken the
average Joe-sixpack American to what is going on.
   The price of "The Clinton Legacy" video is $24.95 plus $4 shipping.
If you order more than one copy then each additional video is $22.45 and no
extra shipping.   Checks and credit card orders can be mailed to AIM at

Accuracy In Media
4455 Connecticut Ave, NW #330
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Also if you have any questions on the video you can call at
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Thank you  God Bless
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[CTRL] Good articles quotes

1999-04-13 Thread Bill Richer

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***
Impeachment Vindicated by Judge

"A federal judge Monday held President Clinton in contempt of court for
giving 'intentionally false' testimony...marking the first time that a
sitting president has been sanctioned for disobeying a court order."

- Washington Post, 4/13/99


Once a Liar, Always a Liar

"This is the administration that said, 'everything's going as planned' and
then all of a sudden they have half a million refugees there. ... Things are
not going as planned.  They are either lying or they're in a state of total
denial."

- Fred Barnes, Fox News Channel "Special Report, 4/5/99


Those Who Refuse to Learn From History...

"Like Lyndon Johnson, the President whose war he opposed, Mr. Clinton is
making things up as he goes along. ... (Kosovo) is Vietnam-style gradualism,
and an irresponsible use of military force."
- Wall Street Journal editorial, 4/13/99

"The Vietnam syndrome 'is alive and well and residing in the White House.'"
- Dan Goure, military analyst, Chicago Tribune

***
Vietnam Syndrome

"Former military leaders and policy analysts say the Clinton administration
has repeatedly shown symptoms of the Vietnam syndrome.  And, they said, it
now appears so consumed by these self-doubts that it is, ironically,
repeating in Yugoslavia many of the same mistakes made in Southeast Asia a
generation ago."

- Chicago Tribune, 4/13/99

*
The Powell Doctrine

"The Powell Doctrine (named after former Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Colin
Powell) was a response to Vietnam.  It means the military can't be used for
anything but war fighting when the nation's highest security interests are at
stake.  I don't believe the Powell Doctrine was ever alive in the State
Department."

- Mackubin T. Owens, former Marine platoon commander in Vietnam and current
instructor at the U.S. Naval War College in Rhode Island, Chicago Tribune,
4/13/99


WH  SOS Ignore Powell Doctrine

"Clinton is in his current predicament, critics in the military said, because
he abandoned the lessons of the Gulf War, lessons embodied in what has become
known as the Powell Doctrine:  that American forces should not be committed
unless there is a clear political objective and an exit strategy.  And when
they are committed, it should be as an overwhelming force.  The Powell
Doctrine is not as highly regarded in the White House or the State Department
as it is in the Pentagon.  Secretary of State Madeleine Albright once asked
Powell, 'What is the point of having this superb military...if we can't use
it?'"

- Chicago Tribune, 4/13/99

***
A Racist War

"Bill Clinton and his North Atlantic Treaty Organization allies are racists,
I presume.  Let's be logical. They justified NATO's unprecedented and illegal
attack on a sovereign state on the basis that  2,000 dead in a civil war
constituted a humanitarian crisis sufficient to justify going to war.  Well,
700,000 Tutsis  were slaughtered  --  men, women, children and babies  --  in
Rwanda, and that only rated a bit of rhetoric from Clinton and his racist
buddies. By my math, that means that, in their minds, one European life is
more valuable than 350 black lives.  These guys are worse racists than some
Union officials during this country's Civil War who, while opposing slavery,
sent black soldiers into battle rather than risking white lives."
- Charley Reese, Orlando Sentinel, 4/6/99

The Saints  Sinners Coalition
"Unlike his father, who sometimes came across as a goody two-shoes, (Texas
Gov. George W.) Bush has shrewdly cultivated a rakish air meant to appeal to
the sort of voters who frequently enjoy detours from the straight and narrow.
 The contrast with his teacher's-pet rivals can only be to his advantage.
It's hard to picture Elizabeth Dole or Steve Forbes dancing naked on a bar,
or even in the shower.  Marilyn Quayle has said that given a choice between
golf and sex, her husband would choose golf every time.  Lamar Alexander and
Gary Bauer give the impression that they never had lust even in their hearts.
 But Bush may have found a way to outdo all these candidates in appealing to
religious conservatives.  His born-again faith...makes him more than
acceptable to the churchgoing set...Bush has thus cleverly forged the most
formidable possible coalition - saints and sinners."

- Columnist Steve Chapman

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Distributed by:  Nevada Republican Liberty Caucus
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[CTRL] Which superpower?

1999-04-13 Thread Bill Richer

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 Which superpower?

 The following is the text of an E-mail traveling the information
 superhighway:
 Name this country...
 * 709,000 regular (active-duty) service personnel.
 * 293,000 reserve troops.
 * Eight standing army divisions.
 * 20 air force and navy air wings with 2,000 combat aircraft.
 * 232 strategic bombers.
 * 13 strategic ballistic submarines with 3,114 nuclear warheads on 232
 missiles.
 * 500 ICBM's with 1,950 warheads.
 * Four aircraft carriers.
 * 121 surface combat ships and submarines, plus all the support bases,
 shipyards and logistical assets needed to sustain such a naval force.

 Is this country Russia? NO
 Great Britain? ... Wrong again.
 The United States? ... Hardly.
 Give up?
 Well, don't feel too bad if you are unable to identify this global
 superpower,
 because this country no longer exists.  It has vanished.  These are the
 American military forces that have disappeared since the 1992 election.
 SLEEP WELL, AMERICA.

 This is from the Air Force Times.

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[CTRL] Gulf War Syndrome, Biological Warfare Conducted on U.S. Military Members, Part 2

1999-04-15 Thread Bill Richer

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Veteran Medical Files Destroyed or Missing

Guess what happened to our veterans medical files? They are destroyed. There
was actually an attorney who was sent to prison for destroying veterans
medical files. Many of the medical files of Gulf War veterans are missing. No
only are they missing, but now the proof that they received the vaccinations
is now missing.

Gulf War Participants Force-Injected With Experimental Vaccines

Let's talk about how we were affected on the biological side. The first way
was with the immunizations. We were given 10 or 11 immunizations prior to
going to the gulf. We don't know everything we got. Some of us got sick
afterwards. The Anthrax vaccinations were given over in the Gulf, in the
theater of operations, and you were forced to submit to it. If you didn't
take it, you were court-martialed. People were put into a room like this, the
doors were locked, and they had security guards with side arm who stood by
while people were forced to take this injection. Why? Why would they do this
to people? The Anthrax "vaccine" had not been approved and was experimental.
The injection for Botulism was also dangerous. All of these things in
combination created a problem.
The Soviet Doctrine: The Biological Cocktail

But, the real problem that we believe to be the main transmission agent was
via the SCUD-B and FROG missiles. You see, the SCUD missiles that Hussein
used on us had biological and chemical agents in them. When the Patriots shot
them down, it rained biological and chemical agents down on the troops. In
terms of biological warfare, they used what is called the SOVIET DOCTRINE, in
which 18-20 biological agents were mixed together in the tanks of the SCUD
missiles. Because the batch contained so many biological agents, it
effectively confuses the diagnosis and the treatment process. Now, ask
yourself this.

Media Projects Responsibility on Iraq for U.S. Crimes

What is the press coming out and saying? If you read the media, which I hope
you don't, you will see an article in the Kansas City Star on October 14th
that said, "Iraq Sanctioned", in which they claimed "Iraq lied to us about
having and using biological weapons." You know as well as I do that they have
satellites in the sky that enable them to see what you are having for dinner.
You know they knew what Hussein had, because they sold it to them. Absolutely.

This is what I want you to be watching for, because this is going to be the
cover story. They are going to have to deal with the Gulf War illness because
so many people have it now. In fact, I will tell you now that because we know
that over 10,000 have already died, and we believe 500,000 of our Gulf War
veterans to be sick, Dr. Nicholson told me that 20% of the people around the
theater of operations (United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, etc.) are now sick. It
is coming to a place near you, believe me. The chronic fatigue syndrome. I
got a call from a doctor the other day who told me that he has 15 patients
with CFS, and they don't know anyone who went to the Gulf War. It's
transmissible through sex and through kissing, because it is now found in the
dental floss test, where you can see evidence of the mycoplasma. It is
communicable and it is going to be growing.
A doctor called me the other day, and he said, "I don't know what's going on.
I volunteered to take care of these Gulf War veterans because the VA wouldn't
take care of them, and now I'm sick with the same problem. Can you help me
understand why I'm sick?" I said, "don't you know its a communicable
disease?" He had no idea, because the official position of the U.S.
Government is that "there is no Gulf War illness."

Peter Kawaja has been talking about the fact that "GF" was used during the
war. Nobody ever mentioned "GF" or even heard of it, except Peter Kawaja, and
he kept saying "GF was used." Well, the substance called "GF" is made by the
U.S. Department of the Army. The government made it. I have evidence in the
government logs of "GF" having been used during the war, but no one ever
addressed "GF" until a U.S. News and World Report article came out on
September 11, 1995. In this, they have the UN inspector going over to Iraq
and inspecting the SCUDS and voicing the "sudden realization" that "Oh, they
had all this nasty stuff over there after all that the Iraqis didn't tell us
about". Well, I have evidence in a Pentagon report that shows that we knew
about it more than 30 days before the war started. The U.S. government knew
it was in the SCUDS, because the U.S. companies sold it to Iraq in the first
place. It's interesting that in this story the UN inspector is trying to
cover himself by saying what he did. The fact that "GF" is mentioned in
Schwartzkoff's NBC log also proves the military knew it was there.

The True Origin of The "New" Emerging Biological Diseases is the Biological
Cocktail Thrust on the Planet By U.S. Companies, Disguised in the Media as
"Mysterious New Diseases" from 

[CTRL] Gulf War Syndrome, Biological Warfare Conducted on U.S. Military Members, Part 1

1999-04-15 Thread Bill Richer

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Gulf War Syndrome, Biological Warfare Conducted on U.S. Military Members,
and Corporate Bio-Genocide Levied on the Planetary Population


A Lecture By Captain Joyce Riley in Adrian, Michigan on Jan 15, 1996



Introduction

(Applause) Thank you so very much. I am Joyce Riley, and I am here because I
love my God and I love my country, and I love my fellow man. We are going to
hear a story tonight that unfortunately is the saddest story, not only of the
20th century, but of America's history. You are going to hear about
the destruction of the United States military. I am sorry to have to bring
you this story. I wish it wasn't true. I wish that I could protect you from
what you are going to hear tonight, because it has taken me a year to
investigate this story. During that time, I went through the worst depression
you can imagine. I finally came to the conclusion one day that - yes, our
country had provided the biologicals to Saddam Hussein that were used on our
troops. Our troops are sick and they are dying.

My story started in 1991, when I decided to go back to the Air Force Reserve.
I had been stationed in the late 1970's in New York State, and I had been
involved as a flight nurse in the Air Force. I got out and was living my
life, but then I heard that there was a war and that many of our men were
going to die if they didn't have adequate care, and that they needed trained
flight nurses. So, I decided to back into the service of my country. I went
back to Kelly Air Force Base in San Antonio and I
volunteered to go to Saudi Arabia. As it was, I didn't go to Saudi Arabia
because the cease-fire came, so I served active duty missions on a C-130
aircraft for about six months. After that, I returned back to Houston to my
job, where I was a heart, lung, kidney and liver transplant nurse in
Houston, Texas. I became very ill and I could get no answers. I didn't know
why I was sick. No one would talk with me about it. No one would help me with
it, and I had to find out the answers myself, alone.

The Problem

So, I began the investigation myself to answer the question of why I was
sick. I didn't even go to the Persian Gulf. They call it the Persian Gulf
disease and the Persian Gulf Registry. They do that for a reason, because
then they can exclude all of us who are sick who didn't go to the Persian
Gulf. Well, I didn't go and I was still sick, and I wanted to know why. The
only thing I had in common with those who did go is that I had received the
immunizations and that I had a lot of contact with Gulf War veterans who were
returning back to the states, and with other members of our unit. Little did
we know at the time that the biologicals that were used were impregnated in
the equipment they had, such as tents and duffle bags. It was being spread to
all of us and we didn't even know it. We were being told a lie. America, I am
sorry to tell you that we have been told one of the biggest lies this country
has ever perpetrated upon us. They are telling us there is no Gulf War
disease. They are telling us biologicals were not used. They are not even
telling you that between 10,000 to 12,000 Gulf war vets have already died.

I began my investigation and I went into depression the day I realized we had
been lied to. I had been involved with President Bush and with the White
House, because I had been involved in organ transplantation. I wrote a letter
and called the White House and invited him to come to Houston with Dr. Cooley
to sign an organ donor card. He and Barbara did accept the invitation, and I
met with them, and they signed an organ donor card. President Bush told me at
the time that "I appreciate what you are doing. If this had been available
years ago, perhaps my daughter Robin might not have died." He told me that.
Well, little did I know that during that same time they were making the
poisons that were going to eventually kill us. At the end of the program, I
am going to play an open letter I wrote to President Bush. He lives in
Houston, as do all of the players in what you are about to hear tonight. They
all reside in Houston.

I do believe that the Lord gave me this story to tell, because a nurse from
Houston, Texas just doesn't "come across" this information -- that biological
warfare has been perpetrated on the American people. I knew when I heard the
story that I had to move on it. I had to let Americans know. I would not be
quiet, because you see I knew that the government was actively covering it up.

What I am going to show you tonight is not opinion. It is not conjecture. It
is proof. I am going to show you documentation on the overhead projector --
the evidence to support what I am saying to you.

The basic fact is that biological agents were used on our troops. Chemical
agents were used on our troops. Germ warfare was used on our troops -- using
biologicals that were made in the United States of America. It was made in
Houston, Texas and Boca Raton, Florida. It was passed 

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Pro Wrestling's NWO linked to the REAL NWO?

1999-04-16 Thread Bill Richer

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In a message dated 4/16/99 7:13:05 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of Am,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Ted Turner (a man who donated $1,000,000 to the UNITED NATIONS!!!) has on

Wasn't it $1,000,000,000.00?  Same man who said we should have only 200 to
500 million people in world!

Bill

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[CTRL] THE STORY OF TAPS

1999-04-17 Thread Bill Richer

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THE STORY OF TAPS

 It all began in 1862 during the Civil War, when Union Army Captain Robert
 Ellicombe was with his men near Harrison's Landing in Virginia.  The
 Confederate Army was on the other side of the narrow strip of land. During
 the night, Captain Ellicombe heard the moan of a soldier who lay mortally
 wounded on the field.  Not knowing if it was a Union or Confederate soldier,
 the captain decided to risk his life and bring the stricken man back for
 medical attention.  Crawling on his stomach through the gunfire, the captain
 reached the stricken soldier and began pulling him toward his encampment.
 When the captain finally reached his own lines, he discovered it was
 actually a Confederate soldier, but the soldier was dead.  The captain lit a
 lantern.  Suddenly he caught his breath and went numb with shock.  In the
 dim light, he saw the face of the soldier.  It was his own son. The boy had
 been studying music in the South when the war broke out.  Without telling
 his father, he enlisted in the Confederate Army.  The following morning,
 heartbroken, the father asked permission of his superiors to give his son a
 full military burial despite his enemy status. His request was partially
 granted.  The captain had asked if he could have a group of Army band
 members play a funeral dirge of the son at the funeral.  That request was
 turned down since the soldier was a Confederate.  Out of respect for the
 father, they did say they could give him only one musician.  The captain
 chose a bugler.  He asked the bugler to play a series of musical notes he
 found on a piece of paper in the pocket of the dead youth's uniform.  This
 wish was granted.  This music was the haunting melody we now know as "Taps"
 used at military funerals.

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[CTRL] The Interview

1999-04-17 Thread Bill Richer

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This is an extract of an National Public Radio (NPR) interview
between a female broadcaster and US Army Lieutenant General
Reinwald about sponsoring a Boy Scout Troop on his military
installation.

Interviewer: "So, LTG Reinwald, what are you going to do with these
young boys on their adventure holiday?"

LTG Reinwald: "We're going to teach them climbing, canoeing,
archery, and shooting."

Interviewer: "Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible, isn't it?"

LTG Reinwald: "I don't see why, they'll be properly supervised on
the range."

Interviewer: "Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous
activity to be teaching children?"

LTG Reinwald: "I don't see how, we will be teaching them proper
range discipline before they even touch a firearm."

Interviewer: "But you're equipping them to become violent killers."

LTG Reinwald: "Well, you're equipped to be a prostitute, but you're
not one, are you?"

End of the interview

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Re: [CTRL] The Interview

1999-04-17 Thread Bill Richer

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In a message dated 4/17/99 10:54:40 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of A,
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 I wondered why the Colonel didn't respond that it was irrresponsible NOT to
 teach youngsters how to handle a firearm - "violent society we live in."
 Learning to use a weapon is not learning to kill; it is learning to defend
 oneself. There are statistics indicating that firearms are used more often
in
 the prevention of violent crimes than in the commission of them.

 probably because he is a mentally ill sociopath.

 Andrew Hennessey
  
The Colonel was just putting a liberal lady who was pushing her agenda in her
place!  I think he did it brilliantly!

Bill

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Re: [CTRL] The Interview

1999-04-18 Thread Bill Richer

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In a message dated 4/18/99 2:18:53 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of Am,
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 Excuse me Bill, but the Colonel was doing more than that.
 He inferred in his dialogue that the lady had 'natural sexual equipment'
 that could be used 'un-naturally' and by inference further suggested that
 Mans 'natural equipment' was a gun - which could also be used 'un-naturally'
 Where the Colonel demonstrates Sociopathic traits is his assumption that
 Mankind should 'naturally inherit' the TOOLS OF DESTRUCTION. eg. guns
 12 millenia of such Neanderthal thought must surely have taught even the
 most basic retard in the Military that the only reason to bear arms
 is the unnatural defence of the TOOLS OF CREATION and their society.
 There is nothing 'Natural' about Slaughter to a reasoning, creating and
 nurturing Society.
 The colonels point of view is not social or civilised, nor ar his manners
 or attitude towards someone he is sworn to defend. 
I think your reading more into it then there is!

Bill

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Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern

1999-04-18 Thread Bill Richer

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Joe:
  Some jokes are too serious.  After a president doing what he did with
Monica in the White House and giving secrets to China and probably Russia
this article was believable!  Yet as I said before it is said that Onion does
satires!

Bill

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Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern

1999-04-18 Thread Bill Richer

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 As far as satires go..it didn't seem to me to be that far off the mark. As
a
 nation,
 we're far more concerned as to what the sports scores are, than finding out
 what's going on in our own government.
  
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[CTRL] Prisoners of War

1999-04-18 Thread Bill Richer

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April 17, 1999

S/Sgt. Andrew Ramirez, S/Sgt. Christopher Stone, and  Spec. Steven
Gonzalez

Prisoners of War --- Day 18
#

We were told by a source close to the family of one of the Yugoslav
POW's that they have been advised to "cool it," "keep a low profile,"
and "don't make waves."  Needless to say this brought back frightening
memories to our Vietnam POW/MIA family members.

In the early days of the Vietnam War,  POW/MIA families were told "keep
quiet."In some cases wives were told not to tell their children or
the missing serviceman's families.  "Low profile" was the recommended
course of action and in the early days, the families listened.   It was
not until the early 1970's that the families, tired of "keeping quiet,"
started "making waves."   Returned POWs have long stated that their
treatment and living conditions improved, once the families went public
and began making waves.

Last evening we discussed the "low profile" advise given to at least one
of our Yugoslav POWs families with a Vietnam POW/MIA wife.  Her reaction
-- "Oh my God, does that sound familiar."

Her advise and ours to the Ramirez, Gonzalez and Stone families.

MAKE WAVES.
#

During the past week, we've listened very closely to statements of
President Clinton and Secretary of State Albright  regarding conditions
that must be met by the Serbs to end this conflict.  In none of those
statements were our POWs mentioned.

It was not until Thursday that President Clinton mentioned our POWs.
Speaking before the Americans Society of Newspaper Editors in San
Fracisco, on Kosovo "Conflict," President Clinton stated:

"Mr. Milosevic also continues to hold on to the three American
servicemen his forces seized in Macedonia. He continues to flout his
obligation to allow the Red Cross to visit them. I want to say again as
clearly as I can, the United States will hold him personally responsible
for their welfare."

In a speech containing 3848 words on the Kosovo Crisis, Mr. Clinton
devoted 52 words to the subject of our POWs.  In those 52 words you will
notice he never used the phrase "Prisoner of War."

Our question, if the POWs are not part of the conditions for peace, how
does this administration expect to get them back.  In our opinion, the
administration may be calling them POWs but they are acting like they
are hostages, who will not be part of the negotiation process.

MAKE WAVES!!
##

Disturbing Report -- The current edition of "Insight" Magazine, in their
"news alert!" Column contains disturbing information of U.S. soldiers
seized by Serb forces, along the Macedonian border prior to the capture
of  S/Sgt. Ramirez, S/Sgt. Stone, and Spec. Gonzalez.

According to the article "...News Alert! has learned that the current
abduction  is not the first time that Serb troops have taken U.S.
soldiers prisoner in skirmishes along the Macedonian border.  In fact,
it happened so frequently that U.S. troops destined for service in
Macedonia with the U.N. peackeeping forces routinely received special
training in Germany on how to react to such abductions, according to
newspapers published in Germany for the troops."

"Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Steve Campbell tells new alert! he's "just
not aware" of any earlier abductions.  But a journalist who was working
for American Forces Network or AFN unexpectedly ran into an incident
involving the abduction by Serbs of two Americans and two Norwegians
when he was sent to Macedonia in Janaury 1994 to cover routine troop
rotations, and he was confronted by U.S. Army Efforts to suppress news
of the event."

"Although the earlier abductions usually lasted only a few hours,
the fact that U.S. military planners knew about this particular danger
in a territory where there are not defined borders has raised questions
on Capitol Hill.  Lawmakers wonder why the 350 U.S. troops, who had been
part of UNPREDEP (U.N. Preventive Deployment Force) were left in
Macedonia once Clinton unleashed the air war in Yugoslavia.  They are
appalled that the troops were given no special backup and ask why the
three man patrol was allowed to make sorties along in a disputed region
without protective firepower"

According to the article, American Journalist Richard W. Haverinen "...
while traveling with his escorts he noticed an unusual amount of traffic
on the radios and near panic among the command.  Since Haverinen is of
Finnish descent, he was invited by the Finns in the Scandinavian
battalion for a social evening and was told frankly about the abductions
.  The soldiers had been held for 11 hours by the Serbs and returned
"Why did the Americans  make such a big deal about it?" the Finns asked.
"

"The next morning, Haverinen says, "I ran into a policy of secrecy about
the threat against our people -- in fact, a policy of secrecy that was
alarming when all I did was ask a softball question about the border
incident.  I wound up being arrested, taken 

[CTRL] Kosovo and an American contradiction

1999-04-18 Thread Bill Richer

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FRIDAY
APRIL 16
1999  •

Alan Keyes is a nationally syndicated radio talk-show host. His WorldNetDaily
column appears every Friday.
You can hear his radio program over the internet via Real Audio.


Kosovo and an American contradiction



What is the connection between the NATO action and the ambitions of some to
establish a world government?

One of the questions that I have been asking myself about the NATO action is
why the whole idea of it seems wrong to me, and makes me so uncomfortable. I
believe it is because, at bottom, the understanding throughout my entire life
that has been the foundation of my thinking about international relations was
precisely that -- international. The subject was "international relations."
Implied is that we have a world composed of sovereign nations, and that we
are dealing with the relations among these sovereign nations and with the
strategic and political environment that results from these relationships.
Insofar as there is an international community, it is a community composed of
these nations working out, in mutually agreeable ways, the terms on which
they will conduct business with one another.

The basic assumption of this whole way of thinking is that those nations are
defined, they have boundaries and jurisdictions, and that by and large they
have within those jurisdictions the ability to order their affairs according
to their institutions, laws and practices -- up to and including some
institutions, laws and practices that we would consider oppressive, even
evil. It has been an important principle of international relations that such
matters are concerns of the particular country, and while another state might
do its best, if help was asked for, to help develop better institutions,
there was one thing it would not do -- go into another country and force
change. This was not acceptable, because it was aggression -- the use by one
country of force, without prior provocation of attack or threat, to impose
that country's will on another country. However valid and wonderful the
intended change might be thought to be, such forcible imposition of it on
another country has been universally deemed wrong by the international
community.

There are those who don't believe this, and who believe that we are moving
toward a fundamentally new kind of global unity. They say that our increasing
interdependence, particularly in finance, trade, technology and
communication, make the nation state obsolete. This view has had its
implications in economic and civic life already. Now, with the NATO
intervention in Kosovo, I think we are seeing for the first time a use of
force that is based upon the presumption that it is legitimate for a state or
group of states to intervene in the internal affairs of another state without
any real threat, military or otherwise, but simply on the grounds that the
state is not accepting an authority represented by the intervening states. In
this case, NATO is intervening to enforce Yugoslavia's acceptance of NATO's
authority and the terms of the Rambouillet Agreement, and to enforce that
acceptance with bombing and whatever else is necessary until the government
of Yugoslavia submits.

NATO is no longer acting as a cooperative defense force, which has been its
defining character since its inception. Its role is being redefined so that
it is now acting as the executive agent of a presumed authority to impose
upon a nation state a certain form for arranging its internal institutions -
otherwise known as a form of government. NATO is acting as the executive
agent for a presumed authority to impose in Yugoslavia a certain form of
government.

President Clinton has invoked humanitarian concerns in order to justify
NATO's use of force in the name of this presumed authority. But when you
examine these arguments on humanitarian grounds, they don't hold water. This
leads me to ask what else is going on here. The argument we are being given
seems to be a pretext, rather than a real motivation, cause or explanation.
So what is the real rubric under which NATO is acting?

The real rubric seems to be a putative authority to require that in
Yugoslavia a certain internal arrangement be accepted. NATO is insisting on
the ability to dispose of the governmental structures within Yugoslavia in a
way that seems right to the alliance. NATO is thus unwilling to continue
leaving such questions to be settled by peaceful, and sometimes other than
peaceful, means by people within the boundaries of the nation itself.

The dangers implied by this way of thinking are clear. The pretext of human
rights and abuse of ethnic minorities has been used by bad folks as well as
by good. Contrary to what Bill Clinton said, the Second World War wasn't
caused by ethnic strife in the Balkans. However, ethnic claims were involved
in its origin. We forget this, because our memory of Hitler is 

[CTRL] Very Good letter by one of the escorts of the soldier who was killed

1999-04-19 Thread Bill Richer

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All-  Very Good letter by one of the escorts of the soldier who was
  killed in 1-10 CAV at JRTC. Read, enjoy, and share with someone. BG



Dear America:

 I am writing this letter to extend thanks to all the American
people who still, despite the recent headlines undermining the ethics
and morality of the military, understand that our jobs and way of life
are necessary to preserve the "American" way of life.  I once thought
that "America" viewed us as most media portrays us; immoral, unethical,
and uncivilized.  My recent travels led me to conclude that the opposite
is true.  You, the American people, that honor and respect what we do,
deserve a public "thank you."

 Just a few weeks ago, a tragedy embedded itself in the tall
evergreen forests at the Joint Readiness Training Center in Fort Polk,
LA.  As a tank slowly slalomed through the trees after sunset on
January 14, 1998, the tank commander fell victim to the inherent
danger of the military.  SGT(P) Donald Wayne Slover passed away that
night as he was guiding his tank through the thickest of trees, fog,
and rain.  The tank's edge clipped and uprooted a tree, which sent it
crashing to the ground.  The medics, arriving on site only minutes
later, felt SGT(P) Slover's last pulse.

 As one of two military escorts, I was required to accompany the
remains from the training area to the burial site, ensuring the proper
and unimpaired delivery to the next of kin.  The obligation required a
two day journey from Fort Hood, TX, to Williamsburg, KY, via Fort
Polk, LA.  Loading, unloading, and transportation of the remains
required our physical presence.  This particular trip entailed a three
hour van ride, a connecting flight in Atlanta in route to Knoxville,
and a 1 hour drive to Williamsburg, KY.

 Upon boarding our initial flight out of Houston we informed the
flight attendant of our duties.  After explaining that it was
necessary for us to depart the plane first upon landing (so as not to
delay the cargo personnel unloading the casket), two gentlemen offered
their seats in the first row of the plane for our last row seats.
This gesture left me speechless.  I'm not so sure they even knew our
purpose for having to be first off the plane, but with no questions
immediately sacrificed their front row seats.

 After arriving in Atlanta, we were escorted by airport personnel
off the plane and down to the tarmac.  Standing in our dress green
uniforms, we watched as the airline employees carefully unloaded the
casket onto the cargo truck.  The truck drove off to the departing
gate and we made our way back inside the terminal.  We met the cargo
truck at the departure gate and again were escorted down to the tarmac
to supervise the loading of our final flight.  Following the loading,
we turned and headed back to the terminal.  As we made that walk, I
noticed that we were being watched by the crowd awaiting the outbound
flight.  Not thinking much about it at the time, I scurried out of the
cold and awaited the boarding call.

 We boarded the plane and again informed the flight attendant of
our duties and departure requirements.  The flight was booked, every
seat filled, and she told us that she would make an announcement upon
landing that we were to exit the plane first.  Having been on full
flights before, I was for certain that this announcement would be
ignored.  Passengers are normally elbow deep in the overhead
compartments as soon as the wheels touch the ground.  I was 100%
positive I would be the last person off that flight.  But I took my
seat in the back of the plane, my partner 10 rows in front, and with
all of my military skills tried to devise a plan that could project me
to the front of that plane upon landing.  I concluded that even
generals would have a rough time planning such an operation.

 As the plane touched down in Knoxville, the flight attendant gave
the standard "keep your seat-belts fastened until the captain turns
off the seat-belt sign" announcement.  She then led into the fact that
two military escorts were on-board and that everyone must remain in
their seats until we departed the plane.  The plane parked and to my
astonishment, not a soul moved.  I'd never witnessed such absolute
silence in my life.  Many of the passengers turned their heads to the
rear of the plane but not a sound was made as myself and the other
escort donned our jackets, grabbed our bags, and headed down the
aisle.  I realized then that all eyes were on us.  As we neared the
exit an older gentleman leaned toward us and broke the silence with
something I will never forget, "God bless you both." he said.

 I am, sir, most truly blessed.  I have been afforded the
opportunity to work alongside some of the greatest sons and daughters
of our nation.  We know and understand that each day presents the
possibility of injury and/or death and we take all precautions to
prevent them.  But we sacrifice that possibility because 

[CTRL] Inquiring Minds Wanna Know

1999-04-19 Thread Bill Richer

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Inquiring Minds Wanna Know

Columnist Paul Greenberg posed some nagging questions about the Kosovo
operation in the April 12 edition of the Washington Times...

*  Why was the most foreseeable result of any war - refugees - not foreseen?

*  Why weren't attack helicopters - not to mention adequate food, supplies,
armaments and troops - sent to the Balkans BEFORE the air war was launched?
It's called preparation.

*  Why isn't every Albanian boy being taught how to shoot?  Why isn't every
Albanian girl being taught how to shoot?

*  Why aren't we giving every able-bodied Albanian who has managed to flee
Kosovo a weapon, training and a place in the newly-formed ranks of a
well-organized, highly disciplined and all-encompassing Kosovan army of
liberation?

*  Why aren't the lights out in Belgrade?

*  Why is Serbian television still on the air?

*  Why is Slobodan Milosevic's presidential palace still standing?  Or do we
care more about saving buildings than people?

*  Where is the rest of the world?  Where are the doctors, the nurses, the
medical supplies, the sanitation needed to keep disease at bay in these
sprawling refugee camps?

*  Who is in charge here - NATO's commanding general, it's secretary general,
the president of the United States, anybody?

*  Why did NATO's commander have to wait so long for the attack helicopters
that should have been in place and standing by, like so much else, weeks and
months ago?

*  What masterminds planned this operation?  Sandy Berger, the president's
national insecurity adviser?  Madeleine Albright, our secretary of state and
vacillation?  And why haven't they submitted their resignations?

*  Why has this administration steadily underfunded military budgets while
overcommitting military forces around the world?

*  Why is the Air Force running short of cruise missiles?

*  AND WHY DIDN'T BILL CLINTON EVER TAKE THAT ROTC COURSE!

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[CTRL] NATO expected to decide on ground invasion at summit

1999-04-20 Thread Bill Richer

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NATO expected to decide on ground invasion at summit


By Steve Rodan
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Tuesday, April 20, 1999

NATO is expected to decide during its summit in Washington this weekend to
prepare for a ground invasion of Kosovo, a senior European official said.

The official, who did not want to be identified, said increasing pressure is
being placed on the United States and Britain for an invasion of Kosovo over
the next month in an attempt to "get this whole thing over with." The
official said NATO members on the European continent are concerned that their
economies would be damaged should NATO's bombing campaign continue through
the summer.

In addition, the official said, NATO's allies in the Balkans, such as
Macedonia and Croatia, want the campaign to end. Both countries have granted
air rights to NATO planes on their way to bombing missions in Yugoslavia.

"From a humanitarian point of view, the support continues for the NATO
operation," the official said. "But from the strategic point of view in terms
of the future of Yugoslavia, there is more and more concern. That's why
everybody would like this to end as soon as possible, even if it means a
ground attack."

The official said NATO can no longer insist on less than a capitulation of
Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic. He said if Milosevic obtains an
unconditional ceasefire he will hail this as the "greatest victory in Serbian
history."

About 12,000 NATO troops are currently in Macedonia. NATO Secretary General
Javier Solana reiterated that the alliance has no plans to invade Yugoslavia.
But he added, "If the moment comes when it is necessary I'm sure the
countries that belong to NATO will be ready to do it."

On Sunday, the British newspaper Observer reported that NATO is making plans
for a ground invasion of Kosovo as early as the end of May. The newspaper
reported that about 80,000 troops have been allocated for the mission.

The Observer said American troops have begun training in Colorado as part of
a plan to complete NATO's operations in Yugoslavia by July. A NATO source
told the newspaper, "We are no longer talking about simply sending
peacekeeping troops into an entirely permissive environment."

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[CTRL] Interesting articles quotes

1999-04-20 Thread Bill Richer

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***
Carrying Gore's Water

"I was talking earlier this week to a former member of the Clinton national
security team...and he says, you know, the President's main job these days
seems to be as campaign manager for Al Gore and...he doesn't want the problem
of ground troops hung around his neck running for president."

- Cokie Roberts, ABC's "This Week," 4/11/99


The Clinton/Gore Fundraising Tour

The little "war" in Kosovo hasn't stopped the Clinton/Gore duo from doing
what they do best:  sucking up campaign cash.  Since the bombing began on
March 24, either Clinton and Gore have attended ten major fundraising events
- more than one fundraiser for every 72 hours of bombing!

*  March 29 - Gore 2000 luncheon in Chicago
*  March 29 - Gore 2000 reception in Birmingham
*  April 6 - Gore 2000 BBQ in Woodside, CA
*  April 6 - Gore 2000 dinner in Beverly Hills
*  April 16 - Gore featured at fundraiser for Rep. David Obey (D-WI) in
Wassau, WI
*  April 16 - Clinton featured at Democrat Senatorial/Congressional luncheon
in Dearborn, Mich.
*  April 16 - Gore 2000 reception in Nashville
*  April 16 - Clinton featured at Democrat Senatorial/Congressional dinner in
Boston
*  April 19 - Gore 2000 luncheon in Cincinnati
*  April 19 - Gore 2000 reception in Chicago

*
First Things First

"Since the bombing began, President Clinton and Vice President Gore have
raised funds at a breakneck pace.  In fact, they've had twice as many
fundraisers as meetings with the Congressional leadership since the bombing
began.  The Commander in Chief and his second in command ought to be more
focused on the targets in Kosovo, and less on meeting their fundraising
targets."

- RNC Chairman Jim Nicholson, 4/16/99

**
Clinton Golfs While Kosovo Burns

"President Clinton hasn't been one to worry much about appearances, but going
on fundraising trips and golf outings while serving as the Commander in Chief
does strike us as unnecessarily unseemly.  Mr. Clinton spent much of Friday
attending Democratic fundraisers in Dearborn, Mich., and Boston.  Because
some nominal Presidential function is scheduled, taxpayers finance these
money sweeps.  Meanwhile, Mr. Clinton has been rather regularly getting in
golf rounds in Washington.  It's hard to see how such insouciance does much
for the morale of the people carrying out his orders in Yugoslavia."

- Wall Street Journal editorial, 4/19/99

*
Putting Fundraisers First

"I would agree that a cease-fire on fundraisers would be a good idea during
the duration of the war."

- Bill Press, former California Democrat Party Chairman and liberal host of
CNN's "Crossfire," 4/15/99

*
Military Ignoramus

"The man (Bill Clinton) is an ass.  He has no concept of a military
operation.  To him, it's just a video game.  What we don't know is how many
body bags it will take to make this jerk face reality."

- Unidentified career military officer, as quoted by columnist Doug Thompson

***
Massive Depression in the Ranks

"I've been around the military for more than 30 years and I have never seen
morale this low.  Bill Clinton has destroyed the soul of our armed forces."

- Former Navy Capt. Al Simonson, as quoted by columnist Doug Thompson

***
Inman Becomes #399

"North Hanover, New Jersey Democrat Mayor Kenneth Inman has filed to run for
re-election -- as a Republican.  Inman is the latest in a long line of
elected Democrats who have changed parties since the November 1992 election.
Inman announced his switch was based on his personal distaste for the recent
Washington scandal.  'I did it because of my own personal reasons. I can't
condone President Clinton's actions, and I don't want to be affiliated with
the party he's affiliated with.'  Mayor's Inman's decision to join with the
Republicans officially starts the number 400 clock.  Who will it be?  Watch
this space for the answer."

- Peter Roff, GOPAC, 4/19/99

**
New GOP Club in Las Vega

Nichole Ecklund advises us of a new GOP club being formed:  the Junior
Republican Women of Las Vegas.  The club is open to women between the ages of
18-30 and annual dues is set at just $20 per year.  For additional
information, contact club president Allison Andronaco at 702-248-1351 or
e-mail Nichole at:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[CTRL] Anybody Worried Yet?

1999-04-22 Thread Bill Richer

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Anybody Worried Yet?

A day in the life of military operations under Bill Clinton's "leadership."
The following appeared in yesterday's Las Vegas Review Journal:

*  Knight Ridder reported that Serbian forces were crossing the border into
Montenegro for the first time, risking a further widening of the war in
Yugoslavia.

*  The Associated Press reports that "two jets on a Kosovo training mission
accidentally fired 500-pound bombs that killed a civilian security guard" in
Puerto Rico.  Four others received minor injuries.

*  Associated Press reports that Clinton's British sidekick, Tony Blair,
mistakenly demanded that Slobodan Milosevic step down as a condition for the
end of the bombing.  NATO officials had to scramble to correct Blair's
boo-boo.  Someone might want to let Mr. Blair in on the plan (if there is
one).

*  Knight Ridder reports that Slobo's military is outfoxing the allies by
using helicopters to resupply their 40,000 troops.  The Serb choppers "make
quick, low-level flights that keep them from being detected by NATO forces."
Does the name "Ho Chi Minh" ring a bell to anyone?

*  Thanks to six years of Clinton/Gore downsizing of the military - and
dueling operational tasks in Iraq and Yugoslavia - American allies in the
Pacific Rim are now pretty much defenseless on the high seas.  The Associated
Press reports that there are now no - repeat NO - U.S. aircraft carriers left
safe-guarding the Pacific.  This condition may continue well into the fall,
say defense department officials.  But heck, North Korea and China wouldn't
take advantage of these circumstances, would they?  Would they?

*  "A Marine helicopter crashed into the Pacific Ocean during night training
in southern Japan, killing at least three servicemen."  A fourth is still
missing.

**
Placing Blame Where It Belongs

"Republicans are branding the Kosovo conflict the 'Clinton-Gore War,' and
blame the White House for what they consider military blunders that are
failing to achieve any of the goals set out by planners a month ago.  While
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright told the Senate Foreign Relations
Committee on Tuesday that 'NATO is on the right track,' Republican leaders
said they found exactly the opposite during a weekend tour of the Balkans.
In increasingly strident attacks, key Republicans are making it clear they
don't support the NATO military campaign, which they say has increased Serbia
strong-man Slobodan Milosevic's power and has failed to stop the 'ethnic
cleansing' campaigns. ... Senate Appropriations Committee Chairman Ted
Stevens, R-Alaska, ...blamed Albright and U.S. diplomats for dragging the
United States into the war, and then placing restraints on how the military
can pursue it."

- Scripps Howard News Service, 4/21/99


In Clinton We Trust

The House Commerce Committee voted 39-6 yesterday to send highly radioactive
nuclear waste to the Nevada Test Site by June 30, 2003.  The President has
promised to veto the bill - and that veto is what Nevadans are counting on to
keep this waste out of the Silver State.  Betting on Bill Clinton to keep his
word?  Not a very smart gamble by a state known for gambling.



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[CTRL] GOA To preserve the House victory, pick up the phone and keep up the pressure

1999-06-26 Thread Bill Richer

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Good News and Bad News on Capitol Hill
   -- To preserve the House victory, pick up the phone and keep up
the pressure

Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org

"House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill. [favors enacting] some gun
control, but not so much as to turn off conservative campaign donors
next year." -- Associated Press, June 19, 1999

HERE'S WHAT TO DO:

1. Illinois Residents.  House Speaker Denny Hastert is still
committed to passing "some gun control" legislation this year.  Tell
him you don't want ANY 2nd Amendment restrictions and warn him that
"conservative campaign donors" might find more worthy causes to give
to if he keeps pushing gun control.  You can call his leadership
office at 202-225-0600 (or email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax:
202-225-7733).

2. Texas and California Residents.  Ask House Whip Tom DeLay (R-TX)
and House Deputy Whip John Doolittle (R-CA) to use their leadership
positions to ensure that no further action is taken on the juvenile
crime legislation.  If they hear a huge outcry from the grassroots,
they can forcefully argue that Americans don't want the current
brand of crime legislation being served up on Capitol Hill.  Contact
DeLay at ph: 202-225-5951, fx: 202-225-5241, no e-mail; and
Doolittle at ph: 202-225-2511, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax:
202-225-5444.

3. Anyone With a Phone or Modem.  Senator Orrin Hatch is trying to
send juvenile crime legislation to conference committee.  Now that
media reports have revealed he's running for President in the year
2000, his office should be glad to hear from ANY potential
constituent inside the U.S.  You can give Hatch the same message as
listed above (in #1) by contacting his office at ph: 202-224-5251,
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax: 202-224-6331.

4. Finally, go to http://www.gunowners.org/106hvote.htm on the GOA
website to view the full analysis of each firearms related amendment
that was voted on last week, as well as the complete voting records
relating to all of these provisions.  Voice your displeasure with
Representatives who have cast anti-gun votes.  (If you don't have
Web access, but you're a GOA member, don't fret!  GOA members will
receive an upcoming newsletter containing a House and Senate
breakdown of the votes.)


(Friday, June 25, 1999)-- The hard-fought victory gun owners
achieved in the House last week is still standing-- for now.  While
the House defeated the "gun control approach" to solving juvenile
crime, they did pass a separate bill which takes a more "cultural
approach" to dealing with the issue (e.g., allowing the Ten
Commandments to be posted on school walls, etc.).  This bill (H.R.
1501) could potentially be sent to a House-Senate conference
committee where it would be blended together with the very anti-gun
Senate crime bill (S. 254) that passed last month.

BUT, no conference committee can begin meeting until the House and
Senate first vote to send the bills to conference.  Thankfully,
pro-gun champion Senator Bob Smith (R-NH) has placed a "hold" letter
on the juvenile crime legislation-- a parliamentary maneuver that
keeps any action from happening until he gives his consent.  While
this is a good start, a "hold" letter increases in effectiveness as
more Senators sign on to the letter.  Activists in Oklahoma and
Wyoming especially, should ask pro-gun Senators James Inhofe (R-OK)
[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] and Michael Enzi (R-WY) [
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] to join Smith and sign on to the "hold"
letter on H.R. 1501 (call 202-224-3121). [Note:  any legislator can
be reached toll-free at 1-888-449-3511.]

The Good Guys.  The results of the House votes from last week
display a grim picture.  Out of 435 Representatives, only five voted
100% correct in regard to the 11 gun votes that GOA rated.  All five
were Republicans:  John Doolittle (CA),  John Hostettler (IN), Rick
Hill (MT), Zach Wamp (TN), and Ron Paul (TX).  (Rep. Henry Bonilla
(R-TX) also voted 100%, although he missed five of the votes.)

Another legislator who deserves honorable mention is Rep. Tom DeLay,
who fought several insider battles to allow "killer" pro-gun
amendments to be offered to the House juvenile crime bill H.R. 2122.
Those "killer amendments" encouraged enough anti-gun Republicans and
Democrats to vote against the bill.

The Bad Guys.  Democrats on the Appropriations Committee are giving
thought to trying to attach anti-gun amendments to legislation
providing funding for the Treasury Department.  According to the
Associated Press, "Ready with amendments are Rep. Steny Hoyer,
D-Md., whose proposal would tighten requirements for sales at gun
shows; Rep. Nita Lowey, D-N.Y., who wants to raise the minimum age
of hand-gun buyers from 18 to 21; and Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn.,
who favors mandatory safety devices with all hand guns."




Website news of note:

In the short time 

[CTRL] Does anyone have the web address to The Australian?

1999-06-28 Thread Bill Richer

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Re: [CTRL] Does anyone have the web address to The Australian?

1999-06-28 Thread Bill Richer

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In a message dated 6/29/99 1:40:18 AM GMT-5:00 - United States of Am,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 http://www.theaustralian.com.au/home/ 
Thank you so much

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[CTRL] Ten Solutions for a Better 21st Century Army

1999-06-29 Thread Bill Richer

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Soldiers For The Truth, June 28, 1999

COMBAT REPORT ON LEADERSHIP

By Donald E. Vandergriff, Major, US Army

Ten Solutions for a Better 21st Century Army

AT THE DAWN of the 21st Century we need to ask "what do we need from our
military personnel system?" There is plenty of historical evidence, and
examples, that the system by which soldiers are recruited, trained,
rewarded, disciplined, assigned and replaced can multiply an army's
"fighting power."

The personnel system is the foundation of an army's culture. To meet the
demands of 21st Century combat, we require soldiers who will be products of
a system that continually challenges their capacity for growth and
encourages them to master all aspects of their tactical environment rather
than restricting them to the mindless repetiton of a narrow group of tasks.
Innovative soldiers will have had sufficient training experiences to enable
them to understand their unit's mission and how to contribute to it.

Because of stability in the unit, soldiers will know their leaders well,
will know what the leaders have in mind, or how they would want something
done, even when a leader is unable to direct. Such units will have the
natural synergy of a veteran team. With this in mind, because the first
priority of any army is its wartime function, the army should begin building
a new personnel system by showing its elements at work in combat, instead of
reworking policies that have been proven to fail.

A total cultural revolution beginning with the personnel system is needed. I
present the following recommendations to the new Chief of Staff of the Army,
General Shinseki to build a new culture that will prepare the Army for
wartime success in the 21st Century.

FIRST, the Chief of Staff of the Army should write a letter to the Army
revealing the results of the 1997 "Leadership and Professional Assessment"
study and admit there are historical and statistically based proof that
there are problems with the personnel system. The letter should denounce
careerism, and refocus thre Army on warfighting.

SECOND, bring to Washington, DC, soldiers of all ranks, but especially those
who are known as "mavericks," who have published controversial articles, or
pieces that challenge conventional wisdom and convene a symposium to study
how to improve the Army. Publish the recommendations so soldiers and the
public will know what the Army is going to do.

THIRD, revisit the New Manning System (NMS) from the 1980s and implement it
completely to include the involvement of officers. People will remember this
as COHORT (Cohesion Operational Readiness Training). Its downfall was that
it was a small part of a larger personnel system that favored individual
replacement and centralized control.

FOURTH, the core of the new personnel system must become the primacy of the
unit. This means units, not individuals, should be moved whenever possible.
We should choose unit temporary duty (TDY) and unit deployments (like the
Marines and Navy) as the Army response to a mission that requires movement
of forces. Units should be ordered to move, not as a tailored slice, but as
an entire unit. Schools should be decentralized and travel, whenwever
possible, to the unit to give their instruction.

FIFTH, to ensure cohesive units in combat stop changing task organizations
for every mission. This "tinkering" undermines unit cohesion. As Col. Doug
MacGregor recommends in his book, Breaking the Phalanx, establish permanent
battalion task forces. This also means stop continual organizational changes
in DCSOPS every time a general or action officer changes position. An
indefinite freeze in force development is impractical, new weapons may
require new kinds of units. Apart from doctrinal or equipment driven
initiatives, the Army needs to look on changes in unit design with caution.
This will lead to more stability and make it easier for units to move as
units and exchange their mission with other units, and also reduce the
growth variations of unit designs.

SIXTH, and perhaps the hardest, due to our culture's penchant for
centralization and efficienty -- decentralize the personnel system -- while
embracing and practicing "a power-down" philosophy. This would break up
PERSCOM's power and prevent them from undermining the NMS, as they did with
COHORT in the 1980s. Put promotions/selections back in the hands of
regimental/brigade commanders/and senior NCOs. "Power-down" should extend to
giving power back to squad/crew leaders/ platoon sergeants in deciding on
leaves, passes, and soldier discipline, giving the soldier's direct
supervisor great power.

SEVENTH, lead the other services in reforming DOPMA (Defense Officers
Personnel Management Act) 1980. DOPMA is the son of OPA 47. Both were
created by Congress for a Cold War military worried about mobilization for
World War III. Both embraced the "up-or-out" promotion system, the
"all-or-nothing" 20-year retirement system, and a bloated officer cirps 

[CTRL] Patriots - Happy 4th of July

1999-07-02 Thread Bill Richer

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Patriots


  I thought this was a nice part of our history to remember this weekend,
given that President Clinton now leads this nation built on the backs of
these 56 men.   Have a great 4th.

   Remember to hold on to the beer and let go of the fire cracker.

   Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the
Declaration of Independence?

  Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured
before  they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost
their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army, another had two sons captured.

  Nine of  the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the
Revolutionary War.  They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes,
and their sacred honor. What kind of men were they?

Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine
were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated.

  But  they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that
the penalty would be death if they were captured.

 Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader saw his
ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and
properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.

Thomas Mckeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to
move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and
his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and
poverty was his reward.

Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer,
Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.

At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Noted that the British
General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his Headquarters. He
quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed,
and Nelson died bankrupt.

Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed
his wife, and she died within a few months.

John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their
13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to
waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning  home

  To find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later he died
from exhaustion and a broken heart. Norris and Livingston suffered similar
fates.

Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution.
These were not wild eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men
of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more.

  Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of
this declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of the divine
providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and
our sacred honor."

They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history
books never told you a lot of what happened in the Revolutionary War. We
didn't just fight the British. We were British subjects at that time and we
fought our own government! Some of us take these liberties so much for
granted...We shouldn't.

So, take a couple of minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday
and silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price  They
paid


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[CTRL] The Foolish Abandonment of Pat Buchanan

1999-07-02 Thread Bill Richer

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---

The Foolish Abandonment of Pat Buchanan
Steve Farrell
June 30, 1999

Sometimes our memory plays tricks on us. Back in the 1980’s and right up
into the early 1990’s Pat Buchanan was widely acclaimed as the toast of
the Republican party.

Possessing a rare combination of hard hitting yet inspiring commentary;
extraordinary debating skills, yet an affable personality; a history of
brawling as a youth, yet heartfelt religious devotion as an adult; here
was a onetime Democrat turned Republican who by the time he had written
"Right from the Start,” had earned himself the title "the conscience of
conservatism.”

Even in the Presidential primaries of 1992 and 1996, it was readily
admitted that it was the Buchanan campaign which shaped the debate. That’s
because, unlike the host of other candidates who opposed him, it was Pat
Buchanan who had an in-depth stance on most every issue; one which never
altered in casual or heated discussions, nor floated upon the winds of
opinion poll politics.

There was no posturing, no politicking. Just roll up your sleeves,
straight forward, in your face, for better or worse statesmanship, and
everybody knew it.

Of course, that disturbed some people. Democrats for years had loathed
him. And they had good reason, for Pat presented to the Democratic Party a
nightly national embarrassment on CNN, as he outwitted and outmatched
their best thinkers with common sense, get-to-the-meat-of-the-issues
insight, which left (no pun intended) opponents gasping from a lack of
emotion free, sensible comebacks. What Democratic Party faithful wouldn’t
hate him for that?

But as a Presidential candidate, and surprisingly, a serious contender,
Buchanan ran head on into a new set of enemies, this time within his own
ranks.

Hypocritically, it was the same party hotshots who had long dubbed him as
hero who now caricatured him as villain, and who, just like their
Democratic Party counterparts who couldn’t defeat Buchanan on principle,
resorted to the mindless, bully-like, emotion filled tactic of name
calling.

Overnight, Pat became a tenured fanatic, a divisive party figure, an
oddity, a throwback, a racist, an isolationist, a protectionist, a narrow
minded, hot headed street brawler, and occasionally, in "kindness", a
candidate who "we like, but who can’t win.”

Leading the charge was the man who had written the most flowery
endorsement of all in the jacket of Buchanan’s best-selling book,
President George Bush, who suddenly changed praise into hostility, calling
Mr. Buchanan "a far right extremist". But the only thing extreme about Pat
is that he has forever stood firm by those principles that the
establishment Republican merely espouses during political campaigns.

The truth is, Pat Buchanan’s beliefs are mainstream and sensible. Here are
a few:

A belief that the US Constitution is the best political standard ever
devised by the wisdom of men.

A belief that the size and scope of the federal government should be
limited , and that the excessive burdens of taxation, regulation, and
government meddling in education would correct themselves if only we would
return to the superior standards delineated in that document .

A belief that free trade means elected representatives in Congress, as
specified by the Constitution (not some un-elected, superintending,
international regulatory body such as NAFTA or the WTO) should decide how
Americans direct their own commerce.

A belief that refusing most favored nation (MFN) trade privileges to a
country (China) which has for a long time manufactured goods by slave
labor, practiced patent theft, sold drugs on our streets to our youth,
stolen our most guarded nuclear secrets, threatened and invaded its
neighbors, systematically killed and oppressed its own people, and who now
points missiles at our shores, makes sense. To so refuse, he believes, is
not a violation of free market principles. For domestic laws which forbid
the sale and purchase of stolen goods, which close down Mafia run front
shops, which disenfranchise the rights of convicted felons, do the same.

A belief that protective tariffs against such a nation are constitutional,
and present a peaceful option of protest short of war.

A belief that international communism and terrorism, which still prosper
everywhere, cannot be defeated by 'socialist' subsidizing of the economies
and militaries of foreign nations, nor by implementing, in the name of
national security, police state measures at home. But that a strong,
united, independent, and prosperous United States, who refuses to aid her
enemies, is the best plan to defeat them both.

A belief that just as freemen have the power to decide who and what
influences can and cannot enter into their homes, so a nation of freemen
can and should collectively possess that same power with regard to
immigration policy. Robbers don’t have the right to come into our homes
and 

[CTRL] Uses for BOUNCE Laundry Static Stoppers .....

1999-07-03 Thread Bill Richer

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  Lots of uses for BOUNCE Laundry Static Stoppers .

   Repels mosquitoes.
   Tie a sheet of Bounce through a belt loop when outdoors
   during mosquito season.

   Eliminates static electricity from your television screen.
   Since Bounce is designed to help eliminate static cling, wipe
   your television screen with a used sheet of Bounce to keep
   dust from resettling.

   Dissolves soap scum from shower doors.
   Clean with a used sheet of Bounce.

   Freshens the air in your home.
   Place an individual sheet of Bounce in a drawer or hang one
   in the closet.

   Prevents thread from tangling.
   Run a threaded needle through a sheet of Bounce to eliminate
   the static cling on the thread before sewing.

   Eliminates static cling from pantyhose.
   Rub a damp, used sheet of Bounce over the hose.

   Prevents musty suitcases.
   Place an individual sheet of Bounce inside empty luggage
   before storing.

   Freshens the air in your car.
   Place a sheet of Bounce under the front seat.

   Cleans baked-on food from a cooking pan.
   Put a sheet in the pan, fill with water, let sit overnight, and
   sponge clean.  The anti-static agents apparently weaken the
   bond between the food and the pan while the fabric softening
   agents soften the baked-on food.

   Eliminates odors in wastebaskets.
   Place a sheet of Bounce at the bottom of the wastebasket.

   Collects cat hair.
   Rubbing the area with a sheet of Bounce will magnetically
   attract all the loose hairs.

   Eliminates static electricity from venetian blinds.
   Wipe the blinds with a sheet of Bounce to prevent dust
   from resettling.

   Wipes up sawdust from drilling or sandpapering.
   A used sheet of Bounce will collect sawdust like a tack cloth.

   Eliminates odors in dirty laundry.
   Place an individual sheet of Bounce at the bottom of a laundry
   bag or hamper.

   Deodorizes shoes or sneakers.
   Place a sheet of Bounce in your shoes or sneakers overnight
   so they'll smell great in the morning.

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[CTRL] * What does Independence Day mean to you *

1999-07-03 Thread Bill Richer

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 * What does Independence Day mean to you *


   Hello, Remember me? Some people call me Old Glory, others call me the
Star-Spangled Banner, but whatever they call me, I a your flag, the flag
of the United States of America. Something has been bothing me, so I
thought I might talk it over with you- because it is about you and me.
I remember some time ago, people would  line up on both sides of the
street to watch the prade, and natually I was leading every one, proudly
waving in the breeze.When your daddy saw me coming,he immediately removed
his hat and placed it againist his left shoulder so that his hand was
directly over his heart-remember? And you, I remember , were standing
there, straight as a soldier. You didn't have a hat, but you were giving
the right salute. What  happened ? I'm still the same old flag. Oh I've
added a few more stars since you were a boy , and lot more blood has been
shed since those parades of long ago. But now, I don't feel as proud as I
used to feel. When I come down your street, you stand there with you hands
in your pockets. you may give me a small glance, And the small children
don't seem to know who I am. I saw a man take his hat off, then looked
around didn't see anyone else so he quickly put it back on. Is it a sin to
be patriotic today??? Have you forgotten what I stand for??? and where I
have been Guadalcanal, Korea and Vietnam!!!
Take a look at the memorial honors and see the names of those Americans
who gave their lives to keep us free. When you salute me you are saluting
them.. Well it won't be lone till I'll come down your
street again so when you see me place your hand over your heart and I
will salute you by waving back!


   H A P P Y
4 T H   O F   J U L Y
  E V E R Y O N E

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[CTRL] History of the Hunley

1999-07-11 Thread Bill Richer

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[Unable to display image]

Hunley to rise again

This article was written in 1995, shortly after the rediscovery of the Wreck
of the Hunley. The historical information is still valid, hence the article
remains available. For more details about the recovery project, please click
here.

The history of the Confederate Submarine Hunley and its rediscovery
by Ray Taylor

When the Confederate submarine H. L. Hunley sank the USS Housatonic off
Charleston Harbour in 1864, it became the first submarine ever to sink an
enemy ship. Unfortunately for the crew, they did not live to enjoy their
fame, and mystery still surrounds the sinking of their craft. Now, that
mystery looks set to be solved with the recent discovery of a wreck that is
almost certain to be the remains of the Hunley.

A group of scientists from the University of South Carolina first became
interested in the Hunley in 1980, when American explorer and author of Raise
the Titanic Clive Cussler set out to locate various Civil War wrecks off
Charleston Harbour. He used a device called a Magnetometer which was towed
back and forth across the harbour to help locate any large metal objects on
the sea bed.

A magnetometer works by measuring the Earth's natural magnetic flux and then
detecting any anomalies caused by large metal objects resting on the sea bed.
A good operator can detect any object, and work out the approximate shape,
using the instrument. With this process, Cussler managed to map the position
of eight fairly large objects.

But it wasn't until 1993 that the University invited Cussler to return to
Charleston Harbour to help locate these sites a second time so that a team of
divers could 'ground-truth' them. This they did in 1994, but without much
success. However, says Chris Amer - who is head of underwater archaeology at
the University - they did find some other iron-clads, included what remains
of the wreck of the Housatonic.

Cussler continued with his group to look for sizeable anomalies, dropping
buoys over suitable sites, allowing a team of divers to investigate. By May
3rd this year, they had pinpointed the location of what Amer believes to be
the remains of the Hunley.

'An underwater video shows what could be one of the turrets,' says Amer. The
wreck lies a couple of feet under sediment but a small section has been
exposed to show rivets and other features. Unfortunately, now that a section
has been exposed, it is likely to deteriorate much faster. Amer is quick to
point out that the wreck would not have been exposed but for an over-zealous
diver.

Further visits to the site of the Hunley have since allowed divers to work
out an outline of the craft using long probes and metal detectors. On the
basis that the exact shape of the object in the mud is a close match of
drawings taken from contemporary eye-witness accounts of what the Hunley
looked like, Amer is confident he has found what is left of the craft. In
Amer's own words, 'if it looks like an elephant, smells like an elephant and
tastes like an elephant, it is an elephant.'

The next phase for Amer and his team, is to take identification a stage
further. Given the delicate balance of chemical forces that has stabilised
around the remains, the last thing anyone wants to do is to disturb the site.
Instead, electronic systems will be used to provide an ever more detailed
picture of the Hunley and its immediate environment - and this will be a
joint effort between Amer's team, which will provide scientific expertise,
and Cussler, who will put up a lot of the money and specialised equipment
required.

Next, Cussler's team will investigate the site with a sonar profiling craft
known as the Cherub. This will be towed from the surface at a depth of about
5-feet above the sea bed, while on-board equipment will produce many
different electronic profiles of the Hunley. When pieced together by
computer, the result will be a fully three dimensional image of the craft,
its contents and the surrounding material, with detail resolved down to two
or three cm. It will be possible to view slices through the craft in much the
same way as modern computer-aided tomography allows doctors to take visual
slices of the body.

The archaeological team is as much interested in the sediment deposits around
the hull as with the hull itself, since the ability of divers to raise the
Hunley will depend a lot on how well it has, or has not, been preserved. 'We
are hoping it can show the differences in sediment structure and determine
the amount of corrosion,' says Amer. This will show how much metal is left.
'If there is a lot of metal there we can hook some slings under it and pull
the thing up,' he says.

Once this survey has been completed, Amer will pass on the results to various
teams of specialists who will help assess the results to decide ,firstly, if
the remains are those of the Hunley and secondly, to determine what condition
they are in.

There are several possibilities. At one end of 

[CTRL] The Hunley - Read now

1999-07-11 Thread Bill Richer

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Dear Friends:
 There is an excellent movie about a prototype submarine built by the
Confederacy called the Hunley on TNT playing right now and it will play again
once its finished.  It's based on true story and is well acted and has a
little bit of everything in it, war, love, suspence and surprising ending.

God Bless;

Bill

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[CTRL] POW: Sen. Smith's Remarks before League

1999-07-13 Thread Bill Richer

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Advocacy And Intelligence Index
For Prisoners Of War/Missing In Action, Inc.
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Bob Necci and Andi Wolos

THE POW/MIA E-MAIL NETWORK (c)
aiijul12.99a

Prepared Remarks
by
Presidential Candidate and United States Senator
Bob Smith

(embargoed until 1:45 p.m. delivery before the)

30th Annual Meeting
 of the
National League of Families
of American Prisoners and Missing
in Southeast Asia

June 18, 1999

Washington Marriott Hotel
Washington, D.C.

Thank you ladies and gentlemen for once again inviting me to address
your annual convention.  As I have told you in the past, this is always a
time of mixed emotions for me.  Of course, I'm always happy to see so many of
you that I've come to know through the years.  But at the same time, I'm sad
that continued Vietnamese intransigence and the U.S. Government's
foot-dragging on key elements of the POW/MIA issue causes you to have to
convene this 30th Annual Meeting.

Simply put, there has not been full disclosure by Hanoi about
unaccounted for American POWs and MIAs.  The facts speak for themselves.  We
have not had access to relevant POW information from the Communist Party
Central Committee --including Politburo, Military Affairs Committee, and
Secretariat level records from the war.  Why can't we see the records of the
internal briefings to North Vietnam's leadership during the war about how
many POWs they had really captured?  If they're not hiding anything, and
they've told the truth all these years about how many POWs they really held,
then why can't we see those documents?  We also have not had access to prison
records where some of your loved ones were known to have been held, and even
suspected to have been held, during the war.  We have not had full access to
Vietnamese wartime reporting on American POWs captured along the Ho Chi Minh
Trail in Laos, and at other locations in Laos, such as Lima Site 85, and Sam
Neua Province where several U.S. personnel remain unaccounted for.  And we
have not had a convincing and complete response from the Vietnamese
Government about the documents uncovered in the Russian archives in 1993 that
indicated Hanoi held more U.S. POWs than they repatriated in 1973.

Despite all of this, the President continues to certify to Congress
that Hanoi is fully cooperating in good faith.  As you may recall, this
Presidential certification is necessary in order for funds to be spent for
diplomatic relations.  I'm really not surprised that the President keeps
making this inaccurate certification in order to advance his normalization
agenda with Vietnam.

It's a sad irony that our U.S. Ambassador and Vietnamese Government
officials are here in town this week lobbying for more U.S.
taxpayer-subsidized trade benefits and working on a new trade deal, instead
of rolling up their sleeves over here, and really spending time with you to
discuss your concerns about the accounting effort for your loved ones.  I was
told this morning that last year, the Ambassador told you that you needed to
be "more patient."   Imagine that.  This is only your 30th annual meeting --
how much longer are you supposed to be patient?

This is really a sad and outrageous commentary on our foreign policy
toward Vietnam, and our Government's commitment to the POW/MIA issue -- and
you certainly don't need me to tell you that.  I know how you feel,
especially when you hear the rhetoric, as you have for far too many years
now, about how this is our highest national priority with respect to Vietnam.


If it's really been our highest national priority all of these years,
and if Vietnam is truly and fully cooperating in good faith, then why are
there so many remaining questions about more than 2,060 American servicemen
who never came home from the war in Southeast Asia?  You know the answer.
You know the answer all too well.

Despite all the work by dedicated military personnel working under
our Pacific Command, jointly investigating and excavating crash sites and
interviewing witnesses alongside Vietnamese Government personnel -- despite
all those efforts, they are not going to bring many of you the final answers
you deserve in the absence of serious high-level negotiations being conducted
by senior policy officials which are focused on what Hanoi can still do
unilaterally.  Why should the League of Families have to go to Hanoi, as your
leaders did last month, to beg for more unilateral cooperation?

When I announced my candidacy for President of the United States in
February this year, I made a pledge that I will repeat here today.  If the
American people put me in the White House, never again will you the families
have to beg our Government and Communist Governments abroad for answers about
your loved ones.  Never again.  Never again.

You know me.  And you know that in my case, actions speak louder than
words, especially on this issue.  You know how often I have stood 

[CTRL] Time Magazine is conducting a poll regarding Hillary

1999-07-13 Thread Bill Richer

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Time Magazine is conducting a poll regarding Hillary which is at:

http://cgi.pathfinder.com/time/polls/hillarypoll.html

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[CTRL] THE NEW WORLD ORDER'S TEN COMMANDMENTS

1999-07-19 Thread Bill Richer

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  THE NEW WORLD ORDER'S TEN COMMANDMENTS

 1. Thou shalt have no other gods which you obey before the state.
 2, Thou shalt not attempt to recover your lost rights, or dignities, through
political views based upon religious principals.
 3. Thou shalt not object to tyranny for it is established for your own good.
 4. Thou shalt not advocate biblical morality or absolutes for that is
forcing your morality upon others.
 5. Thou shalt not oppose abortion
 6. Thou  shalt not  oppose homosexuality
 7.  Thou shalt not oppose pornography
 8.  Thou shalt not be tolerant of all false religions
 9.  Thow shalt be silent
 10.Thou shalt be slaves.

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Re: [CTRL] SOS - Support Our Soldiers ! - or NOT !!

1999-03-26 Thread Bill Richer

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This gets me angry too but we must pray for the men and women who go there.  I
go so far to say Bill Clinton is a Communist and this has been planned to put
our troops all over the world so the USA is not being properly defended.  Bill
Clinton has reasons to do things.  He does have a sick mind but he has
reasons.  He has made our military to a size that is Pre-World War II.  He has
done everything to make us weak while the media and the Clintonista
Administration protect every move he makes.  The media never says how strong
the Russian military is and how it is very much modernized.  It probably is
the strongest military in the world and with China
it is almost is invincible.  Clinton has caused this in many ways and has also
gave secrets to China while the Congress passively watches by!
   The question is are there any more Americans in our government or are
they all elite Satanic Masons?

God Bless
Bill

In a message dated 3/26/99 5:35:08 AM GMT-5:00 - United States of Am,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I'm sorry but this candle thing really burns my butt . First of all you are
 right , the Kosovo Crisis doesn't look good , for them or us . China and
Russia
 have joined forces against this Iron Fisted Massacre and are NOT happy about
the
 whole thing . Russia has publicly declared in it's own media and before the
UN
 that they have no qualms against pulling out their nuclear arsenol  if it
does
 not stop.
 Considering that Russia really has nothing further to lose and that their
only
 real commodities at this time are tanks and nuclear weapons I think it may be
 wise to heed this threat .
Do you still support this power play ,  if it means your children will
be
 among the troops to be sent in for slaughter by a very angry and well armed
 populace who simply don't want the NATO Police Force giving them ultimatums
on
 how to run there own sovereign nation . How about if it sets off WW3 and the
 nukes start landing in your yard ? Is it it still a good idea then to get
into
 the middle of another countries business which is not in any way harming
another
 country , much less this one .
  You can rest assured that I will be praying for the safety of
our
 soldiers as well as theirs , and even more for all the innocent people caught
in
 the crossfire but the soldiers are most definitely not representing me or
 anything that I stand for and to support  this strong armed atrocity  hidden
 behind a hypocritical facade of humanitarian bunk  because it's patriotic is
 just plain stupid . It is that kind of blind faith in the government ,
despite
 all reasonable facts proving otherwise that has put this country in the state
 that its in , where the Constitution is no more than a fading ideal that once
 was .

 Divine ~

 One more fact you may not be aware of . Amongst those " evil enemies " of
ours ,
 namely the Jugolavian Albanians was counted one Mother Theresa .


 --- Bill Richer  wrote:
   -Caveat Lector-
 
I received this from another list...I have already
   lit my candle ... please help these men and
   women going to Kosovo... May God watch over
  them ... and God Bless you for caring
 
   I'm sure you know by now. The Kosovo Crisis
  isn't looking good.  SOS has started the
   Candles Across America Campaign
to show our soldiers we support them.
 Please take just a second to stop by
http://www.opsos.org/candles
   and see what this is about.
   We're trying to get candles burning
in every state.  Please spread the word to all...
  would love to see this spread like wild fire!
 
 Please keep our soldiers in your prayers,
 no matter what your religion is...
  they are supporting us by being there,
so it is our patriotic duty to support them.
 
   God Bless
 
 A HREF="http://www.opsos.org/candles/"SOS - Support Our
  Soldiers !/A
   http://www.opsos.org/candles/
 
   [The picture or image contained in this e-mail cannot be viewed using this
  version of AOL.]
 
  Please display this on your websites with a link to SOS
  Show our soldiers we're behind them!
 
 
   [The picture or image contained in this e-mail cannot be viewed using this
  version of AOL.]
 
Go to this site and report that your
   candle is burning,
  Let's light up America!
 
  A HREF="http://www.opsos.org/candles/"SOS - Support Our
 Soldiers
  !/A
http://www.opsos.org/candles/
 
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[CTRL] Social Security Number/Employment History

1999-03-26 Thread Bill Richer

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 Subject:  Social Security Number/Employment History...Y2K

  Please call the number below and request application forms for your
  history of employment and future payments from the Social Security
  Office, just in case something goes wrong on December 31,1999,
  or in the Y2K. The number is: 1-800-772-1213,  option 2:
  Request your 'Personal Earnings and Benefits Statement'
  one for you and one for your spouse.


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[CTRL] Kevorkian News

1999-03-26 Thread Bill Richer

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Dear Friends:
  Kevorkian was just found guilty of second degree murder by a jury of
his peers.  The DA wanted to put him in jail but he was allowed to go out on
bond till he is sentenced.  Chalk one up for the good guys!

God Bless
Bill

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Re: [CTRL] To Bill Re: [CTRL] SOS - Support Our Soldiers ! - or N...

1999-03-26 Thread Bill Richer

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In a message dated 3/26/99 5:24:59 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of Am,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I just can't believe that you are serious?  The United States is the only
 superpower currently on planet earth, and has sadly not lived up to the most
 deeply moving words that I read at Mount Rushmore:  viz
 Forgive the grammar.they are TDR's, not mine:

 "We here in America. hold in our hands the hope of the world.  the fate of
 the coming years; and shame and disgrace will be ours if in our eyes the
 light of high resolve is demmed, if we trail in the dust the golden hopes of
 men." 
Dear Epona:
You listen too much to the leftist media my friend!

God Bless
Bill

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Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News

1999-03-28 Thread Bill Richer

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In a message dated 3/27/99 9:55:13 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of Am,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 what do you tell the relatives of the 5 people who suffered from depression,
 who had NO terminal illness, that Dr Jack disposed of?
 Dr Jack was a sometime-pathologist, NEVER a "people doctor"
 he seems to have developed an obsession with death along with the onset of
old
 age
 .Nurses, under Drs orders, every day of the week, jack up the amt of morphine
 in a terminal patients IV-- they jack it up, in the end, knowing it causes
 respiratory depression--unlike Dr. Jack, they have spent many yrs dealing
with
 PEOPLE, not in a cold pathology lab, but working with the families--and--they
 dont seek fame, they dont paint strange and shizo drawings, they dont want to
 be on the cover of Time-Dr Jack deserves what he gets--Sorry!  Drs can be
 serial killers too!
  
Right on Liz!

Bill

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Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News

1999-03-28 Thread Bill Richer

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In a message dated 3/28/99 12:13:15 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of A,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You obviously know very little of Dr. K. as a person.  Maybe you should do
 some research before condemning a person.  He is only doing what people are
 BEGGING him to do, not going out and killing innocent people for no reason.
 Dr. Erebus 

Two wrongs don't make a right!

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Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News

1999-03-28 Thread Bill Richer

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In a message dated 3/28/99 12:23:46 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of A,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Who are you to judgenoone.  Your opinion does not matter...as does not
 mine.  Only God will judge.
 Dr. Erebus 
We have to make judgements every day to see what is right and wrong!  You are
saying in effect there is no right and wrong just as the media and president
are saying.  Look where they have taken us! Isn't it wonderful?  Not!

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Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News

1999-03-28 Thread Bill Richer

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In a message dated 3/28/99 8:28:22 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of Am,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I you sure that the above is correct? I thought it was "thou shallt
 not murder". Am I wrong about this?
  
And is is!

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Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News

1999-03-28 Thread Bill Richer

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In a message dated 3/28/99 11:33:37 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of A,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I you sure that the above is correct? I thought it was "thou shallt
   not murder". Am I wrong about this?

  And is is!
 

By this do you mean to suggest that murder and kill are the same
 thing?

 Howard Davis 
Douay-Rheims Bible

Exodus Chap 20
The ten commandments.

   1  And the Lord spoke all these words:
   2  I am the Lord thy God, who brought thee out of the land
of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
   3  Thou shalt not have strange gods before me.
   4  Thou shalt not make to thyself a graven thing, nor the
likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or in the earth
beneath, nor of those things that are in the waters under the
earth.
   5  Thou shalt not adore them, nor serve them. I am the Lord
thy God, mighty, jealous, visiting the iniquity of the fathers
upon the children, unto the third and fourth generation of them
that hate me:
   6  And shewing mercy unto thousands to them that love
me, and keep my commandments.
   7  Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain:
for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that shall take the name
of the Lord his God in vain.
   8  Remember that thou keep holy the sabbath day.
   9  Six days shalt thou labour, and shalt do all thy works.
  10  But on the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy
God: thou shalt do no work on it, thou nor thy son, nor thy
daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy
beast nor the stranger that is within thy gates.
  11  For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and the
sea, and all things that are in them, and rested on the seventh
day: therefore the Lord blessed the seventh day, and
sanctified it.
  12  Honour thy father and thy mother, that thou mayest be
long-lived upon the land which the Lord thy God will give thee.
  13  Thou shalt not kill.
  14  Thou shalt not commit adultery.
  15  Thou shalt not steal.
  16  Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
  17  Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house: neither shalt
thou desire his wife, nor his servant, nor his handmaid, nor his
ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is his.
  18  And all the people saw the voices and the flames, and
the sound of the trumpet, and the mount smoking: and being
terrified and struck with fear, they stood afar off,
  19  Saying to Moses: Speak thou to us, and we will hear.
Let not the Lord speak to us, lest we die.
  20  And Moses said to the people: Fear not: for God is come
to prove you, and that the dread of him might be in you, and
you should not sin.
  21  And the people stood afar off. But Moses went to the
dark cloud wherein God was.
  22  And the Lord said to Moses: Thus shalt thou say to the
children of Israel: You have seen that I have spoken to you
from heaven.
  23  You shall not make gods of silver: nor shall you make to
yourselves gods of gold.
  24  You shall make an altar of earth unto me: and you shall
offer upon it your holocausts and peace offerings, your sheep
and oxen, in every place where the memory of my name shall
be. I will come to thee, and will bless thee.
  25  And if thou make an altar of stone unto me, thou shalt
not build it of hewn stones: for if thou lift up a tool upon it, it
shall be defiled.
  26  Thou shalt not go up by steps unto my altar, lest thy
nakedness be discovered.

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