[CTRL] To Bill Re: [CTRL] SOS - Support Our Soldiers ! - or NOT !!

1999-03-26 Thread Divinewill

 -Caveat Lector-

Hi Bill ,

   I am glad that you did not take my message personally as I realized on
hindsight that my response was a bit harsh , one thing noone can accuse me of is
lack of passion :-) . I agree completely with your statement of response and
would like  to add that since Clinton has chosen to switch our defense system
from one of Fire at Warning to " absorbtion " of first attack we are ALL doomed
should Russia/China decide it's time to make their own power play .
I also believe that should China start using the technology which Clinton
has supplied to them against us that the true patriotic thing to do would be to
 prosecute him for treason .  I toned this down from my original
statement in lew of the adequately named SS  . That is of course assuming that
there is anyone left to do so .
I do not believe that we of these United States are alone in this Kommunist
Korporate plight , the "common" people the world over are suffering from this
mentality , most of them much more than we . so far .

May God help us all ,

Divine ~

-

Money makes the world go around. Love just barely keeps it from blowing up

-


--- Bill Richer  wrote:
  -Caveat Lector-

 This gets me angry too but we must pray for the men and women who go there.
I
 go so far to say Bill Clinton is a Communist and this has been planned to put
 our troops all over the world so the USA is not being properly defended.
Bill
 Clinton has reasons to do things.  He does have a sick mind but he has
 reasons.  He has made our military to a size that is Pre-World War II.  He
has
 done everything to make us weak while the media and the Clintonista
 Administration protect every move he makes.  The media never says how strong
 the Russian military is and how it is very much modernized.  It probably is
 the strongest military in the world and with China
 it is almost is invincible.  Clinton has caused this in many ways and has
also
 gave secrets to China while the Congress passively watches by!
The question is are there any more Americans in our government or are
 they all elite Satanic Masons?

 God Bless
 Bill

 In a message dated 3/26/99 5:35:08 AM GMT-5:00 - United States of Am,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
  I'm sorry but this candle thing really burns my butt . First of all you are
  right , the Kosovo Crisis doesn't look good , for them or us . China and
 Russia
  have joined forces against this Iron Fisted Massacre and are NOT happy about
 the
  whole thing . Russia has publicly declared in it's own media and before the
 UN
  that they have no qualms against pulling out their nuclear arsenol  if it
 does
  not stop.
  Considering that Russia really has nothing further to lose and that their
 only
  real commodities at this time are tanks and nuclear weapons I think it may
be
  wise to heed this threat .
 Do you still support this power play ,  if it means your children
will
 be
  among the troops to be sent in for slaughter by a very angry and well armed
  populace who simply don't want the NATO Police Force giving them ultimatums
 on
  how to run there own sovereign nation . How about if it sets off WW3 and the
  nukes start landing in your yard ? Is it it still a good idea then to get
 into
  the middle of another countries business which is not in any way harming
 another
  country , much less this one .
   You can rest assured that I will be praying for the safety of
 our
  soldiers as well as theirs , and even more for all the innocent people
caught
 in
  the crossfire but the soldiers are most definitely not representing me or
  anything that I stand for and to support  this strong armed atrocity  hidden
  behind a hypocritical facade of humanitarian bunk  because it's patriotic is
  just plain stupid . It is that kind of blind faith in the government ,
 despite
  all reasonable facts proving otherwise that has put this country in the
state
  that its in , where the Constitution is no more than a fading ideal that
once
  was .

  Divine ~

  One more fact you may not be aware of . Amongst those " evil enemies " of
 ours ,
  namely the Jugolavian Albanians was counted one Mother Theresa .


  --- Bill Richer  wrote:
-Caveat Lector-
  
 I received this from another list...I have already
lit my candle ... please help these men and
women going to Kosovo... May God watch over
   them ... and God Bless you for caring
  
I'm sure you know by now. The Kosovo Crisis
   isn't looking good.  SOS has started the
Candles Across America Campaign
 to show our soldiers we support 

Re: [CTRL] To Bill Re: [CTRL] SOS - Support Our Soldiers ! - or NOT !!

1999-03-26 Thread Epona

 -Caveat Lector-

I just can't believe that you are serious?  The United States is the only
superpower currently on planet earth, and has sadly not lived up to the most
deeply moving words that I read at Mount Rushmore:  viz
Forgive the grammar.they are TDR's, not mine:

"We here in America. hold in our hands the hope of the world.  the fate of
the coming years; and shame and disgrace will be ours if in our eyes the
light of high resolve is demmed, if we trail in the dust the golden hopes of
men."
-Original Message-
From: Divinewill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 26 March 1999 21:28
Subject: [CTRL] To Bill Re: [CTRL] SOS - Support Our Soldiers ! - or NOT !!


 -Caveat Lector-

Hi Bill ,

   I am glad that you did not take my message personally as I realized
on
hindsight that my response was a bit harsh , one thing noone can accuse me
of is
lack of passion :-) . I agree completely with your statement of response
and
would like  to add that since Clinton has chosen to switch our defense
system
from one of Fire at Warning to " absorbtion " of first attack we are ALL
doomed
should Russia/China decide it's time to make their own power play .
I also believe that should China start using the technology which
Clinton
has supplied to them against us that the true patriotic thing to do would
be to
 prosecute him for treason .  I toned this down from my original
statement in lew of the adequately named SS  . That is of course assuming
that
there is anyone left to do so .
I do not believe that we of these United States are alone in this
Kommunist
Korporate plight , the "common" people the world over are suffering from
this
mentality , most of them much more than we . so far .

May God help us all ,

Divine ~

---
--

Money makes the world go around. Love just barely keeps it from blowing up

---
--


--- Bill Richer  wrote:
  -Caveat Lector-

 This gets me angry too but we must pray for the men and women who go
there.
I
 go so far to say Bill Clinton is a Communist and this has been planned to
put
 our troops all over the world so the USA is not being properly defended.
Bill
 Clinton has reasons to do things.  He does have a sick mind but he has
 reasons.  He has made our military to a size that is Pre-World War II.
He
has
 done everything to make us weak while the media and the Clintonista
 Administration protect every move he makes.  The media never says how
strong
 the Russian military is and how it is very much modernized.  It probably
is
 the strongest military in the world and with China
 it is almost is invincible.  Clinton has caused this in many ways and has
also
 gave secrets to China while the Congress passively watches by!
The question is are there any more Americans in our government or
are
 they all elite Satanic Masons?

 God Bless
 Bill

 In a message dated 3/26/99 5:35:08 AM GMT-5:00 - United States of Am,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
  I'm sorry but this candle thing really burns my butt . First of all you
are
  right , the Kosovo Crisis doesn't look good , for them or us . China and
 Russia
  have joined forces against this Iron Fisted Massacre and are NOT happy
about
 the
  whole thing . Russia has publicly declared in it's own media and before
the
 UN
  that they have no qualms against pulling out their nuclear arsenol  if
it
 does
  not stop.
  Considering that Russia really has nothing further to lose and that
their
 only
  real commodities at this time are tanks and nuclear weapons I think it
may
be
  wise to heed this threat .
 Do you still support this power play ,  if it means your children
will
 be
  among the troops to be sent in for slaughter by a very angry and well
armed
  populace who simply don't want the NATO Police Force giving them
ultimatums
 on
  how to run there own sovereign nation . How about if it sets off WW3 and
the
  nukes start landing in your yard ? Is it it still a good idea then to
get
 into
  the middle of another countries business which is not in any way harming
 another
  country , much less this one .
   You can rest assured that I will be praying for the safety
of
 our
  soldiers as well as theirs , and even more for all the innocent people
caught
 in
  the crossfire but the soldiers are most definitely not representing me
or
  anything that I stand for and to support  this strong armed atrocity
hidden
  behind a hypocritical facade of humanitarian bunk  because it's
patriotic is
  just plain stupid . It is that kind of blind faith in the government ,
 despite
  all reasonable facts proving otherwise that has put this country in the
state
  that its in , where the Constitution is no more

Re: [CTRL] To Bill Re: [CTRL] SOS - Support Our Soldiers ! - or N...

1999-03-26 Thread Bill Richer

 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 3/26/99 5:24:59 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of Am,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I just can't believe that you are serious?  The United States is the only
 superpower currently on planet earth, and has sadly not lived up to the most
 deeply moving words that I read at Mount Rushmore:  viz
 Forgive the grammar.they are TDR's, not mine:

 "We here in America. hold in our hands the hope of the world.  the fate of
 the coming years; and shame and disgrace will be ours if in our eyes the
 light of high resolve is demmed, if we trail in the dust the golden hopes of
 men." 
Dear Epona:
You listen too much to the leftist media my friend!

God Bless
Bill

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Re: [CTRL] To Bill Re: [CTRL] SOS - Support Our Soldiers ! - or NOT !!

1999-03-26 Thread Divinewill

 -Caveat Lector-

Epona ,

   As I agree with your quote from TDR I am not sure which point it is that
I made of which you can not believe I am serious about and therefore do not know
how to respond . In regard to the US being a " super power " again that depends
on the scope of your meaning . In regard to nucleur power aka military power
capabilities that is most definitely not true . Which I pray will not be proven
first hard . In regard to monetery strength that may very well be true ,
unfortunately the wealth is primarily distributed to the elite top 5% who has
absolutely no interest in the benefit of the populice so long as there is
someone around to do there dirty work for them  and of course work themselves
into the ground for crumbs in order to make them richer and hence more powerful
.
In an overall scope I believe that the Super Power lies not with ANY
government open the face of the earth but upon a higher being from which I
personally believe is the source of " the Golden hopes of men "


Namaste ,

Divine ~

-
"Democracy is a device that insures we shall be governed no better than
we deserve."
-- George Bernard Shaw
-

--- Epona  wrote:
  -Caveat Lector-

 I just can't believe that you are serious?  The United States is the only
 superpower currently on planet earth, and has sadly not lived up to the most
 deeply moving words that I read at Mount Rushmore:  viz
 Forgive the grammar.they are TDR's, not mine:

 "We here in America. hold in our hands the hope of the world.  the fate of
 the coming years; and shame and disgrace will be ours if in our eyes the
 light of high resolve is demmed, if we trail in the dust the golden hopes of
 men."
 -Original Message-
 From: Divinewill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 26 March 1999 21:28
 Subject: [CTRL] To Bill Re: [CTRL] SOS - Support Our Soldiers ! - or NOT !!


  -Caveat Lector-
 
 Hi Bill ,
 
I am glad that you did not take my message personally as I realized
 on
 hindsight that my response was a bit harsh , one thing noone can accuse me
 of is
 lack of passion :-) . I agree completely with your statement of response
 and
 would like  to add that since Clinton has chosen to switch our defense
 system
 from one of Fire at Warning to " absorbtion " of first attack we are ALL
 doomed
 should Russia/China decide it's time to make their own power play .
 I also believe that should China start using the technology which
 Clinton
 has supplied to them against us that the true patriotic thing to do would
 be to
  prosecute him for treason .  I toned this down from my original
 statement in lew of the adequately named SS  . That is of course assuming
 that
 there is anyone left to do so .
 I do not believe that we of these United States are alone in this
 Kommunist
 Korporate plight , the "common" people the world over are suffering from
 this
 mentality , most of them much more than we . so far .
 
 May God help us all ,
 
 Divine ~
 
 ---
 --
 
 Money makes the world go around. Love just barely keeps it from blowing up
 
 ---
 --
 
 
 --- Bill Richer  wrote:
   -Caveat Lector-
 
  This gets me angry too but we must pray for the men and women who go
 there.
 I
  go so far to say Bill Clinton is a Communist and this has been planned to
 put
  our troops all over the world so the USA is not being properly defended.
 Bill
  Clinton has reasons to do things.  He does have a sick mind but he has
  reasons.  He has made our military to a size that is Pre-World War II.
 He
 has
  done everything to make us weak while the media and the Clintonista
  Administration protect every move he makes.  The media never says how
 strong
  the Russian military is and how it is very much modernized.  It probably
 is
  the strongest military in the world and with China
  it is almost is invincible.  Clinton has caused this in many ways and has
 also
  gave secrets to China while the Congress passively watches by!
 The question is are there any more Americans in our government or
 are
  they all elite Satanic Masons?
 
  God Bless
  Bill
 
  In a message dated 3/26/99 5:35:08 AM GMT-5:00 - United States of Am,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
   I'm sorry but this candle thing really burns my butt . First of all you
 are
   right , the Kosovo Crisis doesn't look good , for them or us . China and
  Russia
   have joined force

Re: [CTRL] To Bill Re: [CTRL] SOS - Support Our Soldiers ! - or N...

1999-03-26 Thread Epona

 -Caveat Lector-

What does going to Mount Rushmore and reading everything there, including
Republican TDR's words have to do with you being afraid of what I read?

Please dont't patronize me.



-Original Message-
From: Bill Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 26 March 1999 22:39
Subject: Re: [CTRL] To Bill Re: [CTRL] SOS - Support Our Soldiers ! - or
N...


 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 3/26/99 5:24:59 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of Am,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I just can't believe that you are serious?  The United States is the only
 superpower currently on planet earth, and has sadly not lived up to the
most
 deeply moving words that I read at Mount Rushmore:  viz
 Forgive the grammar.they are TDR's, not mine:

 "We here in America. hold in our hands the hope of the world.  the fate of
 the coming years; and shame and disgrace will be ours if in our eyes the
 light of high resolve is demmed, if we trail in the dust the golden hopes
of
 men." 
Dear Epona:
You listen too much to the leftist media my friend!

God Bless
Bill

DECLARATION  DISCLAIMER
==
CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting
propagandic
screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing!  These are sordid
matters
and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and
outright
frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor
effects
spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to
readers;
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