[CTRL] Urantia: A Skull Bones Spin-Off
-Caveat Lector- Note: The Urantia Brotherhood is a Skull Bones spin-off. Byron Belitsos of the 911 Truth Movement's claim to fame is his popularization of the brotherhood's holy text -- supposedly channelled by a member of the Kellogg family, which had four members enrolled in Skull Bones fraternity at the time to book was produced. -- AC -- Urantia: A Skull Bones Spin-Off http://www.crystalinks.com/skullbones.html The Secret Origins of Skull Bones ... The family names on the Skull and Bones roster roll off the tongue like an elite party list -- Lord, Whitney, Taft, Jay, Bundy, Harriman, Weyerhaeuser, Pinchot, Rockefeller, Goodyear, Sloane, Stimson, Phelps, Perkins, Pillsbury, KELLOGG, Vanderbilt, Bush, Lovett and so on. To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om 2">
[CTRL] Urantia book
-Caveat Lector- This is from another list. The book is available on line. Oh and that Peter below is not me ok. Peter If you want to get an unexpurgated version of what Jesus really said check out http://www.urantia.org/ I have found the writings of the Urantia book to go beyond anything else I've read. No mortal and especially no reptilian without an emotional body could have penned such lofty thoughts and ideals or explored and explained the nature of divinity. IMHO Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Dear drbongo, I haven't spoken of the antichrist or "antichrists" for that matter. Yes, the NWO elitists do view us as "useless eaters" and probably not any more important than animals. I don't know who the antichrist is and don't believe I ever will know ;). From things I've seen, chemtrails, weather modification, genetically engineered viruses etc... It's only obvious they want to kill us off, a large number at least. The mark will control us as far as buying and selling according to a source I read rather often :), and from some other sources I've read it appears it will also control our travels, pretty much everything... Has it begun? It began a long time ago. Since the fall of Alexander the Great, and even before then. Are they in government? Is that a serious question? Now, off to do some useless eating... Jamie -Caveat Lector- dear Jamie, so the antichrists view us as "useless eaters"? is that like "cattle"? is what your saying is that the antichrists view us as no better than animals? who are the antichrists? and do the antichrists want to kill all of us and what world events indicate this? will the biochip be used to control us, and our numbers, and control our travel. has it begun, are they in government today? shall we know them by their works? drbongo DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- yeah right DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Colleen Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- As they say, different strokes for different folks; must read it, and find a copy. Thank you again; it took a lot of knowledge to compile this into one book...four sections, as you said. I am looking forward to reading; library did not have copy here. Colleen Am trying around. Colleen, try http://www.spiritweb.org/Urantia/ubcover.html for an online version of the Urantia Book. I'm not going to pass judgment on it, but do always keep the motto of CTRL in mind: Caveat Lector, "Let the reader beware." Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Bob: Thank you - will proceed with caution. My attention span is so short these days, it will take a lot of doing to brainwash me. There is a difference between propaganda and prophecywhat it is, I do not know; guess it depends on whose side you are on. If I end up in a monastery with a lot of Monks - you will know they got me. Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- are you talking of the antichrist and who are the antichrists? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- dear Jamie, so the antichrists view us as "useless eaters"? is that like "cattle"? is what your saying is that the antichrists view us as no better than animals? who are the antichrists? and do the antichrists want to kill all of us and what world events indicate this? will the biochip be used to control us, and our numbers, and control our travel. has it begun, are they in government today? shall we know them by their works? drbongo DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- The Urantia Book on line: http://www.ubook.org/index1.html gek DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- drbongowhy would they want to control us by use of a biochip? He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark of his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. - Revelation 13:16-17 So they can control the resources, after all according to them, we're "useless eaters." As for this book... Like "kinda" said, most Christians won't go near it and they don't need to... I have no desire to read something that goes into the life of Jesus and eternal life when I've got THE source already... The Bible. Whatever this book is, whatever insights it may claim to have, I'm sure the Bible covers it ALL already. Jamie DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/12/99 11:23:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: so tell me what you got out of it God consciousness, eternal life, and a renewed respect for our Creator Son, Jesus of Nazareth. K. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/12/99 11:27:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: why would they want to control us by use of a biochip? The evil empire wants to control us with biochips in an effort to cancel out the "still small voice"..the indwelling spirit of God. Kinda DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/11/99 10:31:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sounds like a lot of bullshit to me! Yes..this is the response of the majority of those that hear of the Urantia book. But remember..the majority isn't always right! Kinda DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Kinda Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Urantia -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/11/99 10:31:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sounds like a lot of bullshit to me! Yes..this is the response of the majority of those that hear of the Urantia book. But remember..the majority isn't always right! Most people just aren't ready for the Urantia book. Joe DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Joe, I've been "a reader" of The In a message dated 99-05-12 09:40:23 EDT, you write: In a message dated 5/11/99 10:31:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sounds like a lot of bullshit to me! Yes..this is the response of the majority of those that hear of the Urantia book. But remember..the majority isn't always right! Most people just aren't ready for the Urantia book. Joe DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Joe, I've been "a reader" of "The URANTIA Book" for several years now. I have to chime in here and say that I believe that the mindset most prone to picking up the UB and giving it honest and objective consideration is the mindset that has been cultivated by a healthy respect for one's own intellectual integrity. To me, this means first and foremost, not having committedly discarded a deep-seated regard for the Unknown, the Primal Source of all things and beings, while at the same time having become sufficiently disillusioned with the lack of coherent In a message dated 99-05-12 09:40:23 EDT, you write: In a message dated 5/11/99 10:31:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sounds like a lot of bullshit to me! Yes..this is the response of the majority of those that hear of the Urantia book. But remember..the majority isn't always right! Most people just aren't ready for the Urantia book. Joe DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- i remember when i bought the urantia book and the guy i bought the book from told me that i was to get a mysterious phone call which i guess i was supposed to be amazed or something but seeing that i paid for the book via check it would have been easy to look up my phone number. i didnt get the call anyway. while buying some other books at the ufo convention this other book seller told me that i could not get "his" books anywhere else which is nothing but a lie because you can order any book if you have an isbn number. i found the whole ufo convention full of con men and liers, trying to dupe the public. robert DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Joe New [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Kinda Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Urantia -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/11/99 10:31:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sounds like a lot of bullshit to me! Yes..this is the response of the majority of those that hear of the Urantia book. But remember..the majority isn't always right! Most people just aren't ready for the Urantia book. Joe Alright, in cleaning out my mailbox, it seems I deleted the original Urantia post. What is the book, what is it about, and was there a link posted in the original post? Please reply off-list so it won't clog the list, thanks. Scott Brown DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- the reason i said that was because it has a history of faud. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/12/99 10:10:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the reason i said that was because it has a history of faud. Hi Robert I understand. The only way to discover if it is fraudulent or not is to read it. It stands on its own very well :) Some of those who have read the book are frauds..but the book itself is not. Kinda Kinda DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- what about the origins of the book? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/12/99 10:47:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what about the origins of the book? Hi there.. Here is an excerpt from some court documents about the origins of the Urantia Book... http://www.ubook.org/UBOrigin.html J.2 HOW WERE THE URANTIA PAPERS MATERIALIZED? Sources used for this section: HISTORY OF THE URANTIA MOVEMENT - A short historical narrative was "prepared by a group of Urantia pioneers, assisted by members of the contact commission - 1960" HISTORY OF THE URANTIA MOVEMENT - [Anonymous] "History Two" is an enlarged version of the above history, and is not dated. The added material includes writings that are probably from a member of the Contact Commission who also performed stenographic duties throughout the nearly fifty-year process. [Note #4] A HISTORICITY OF THE URANTIA PAPERS - Written by the only living colleague of the Chicago Physician. A video taped interview with this colleague was also used. A recently discovered cassette tape commentary on the origins of the Urantia Papers by a member of the Contact Commission. The appendix of Mind at Mischief, published in 1929. This book was written by the doctor involved in the case. It is certain that no mortal being knows, or ever knew, the complete story of how the Urantia Papers came to be. We do know that circa 1911, a prominent Chicago physician, psychiatrist, and debunker of psychic phenomena began treating a case of psychic activities that he was unable to explain. His involvement, bafflement, and intellectual struggle with these activities culminated in the publication of The Urantia Book in 1955. The identity of the patient will never be known. Some confusion exists about how the text of the Urantia Papers was materialized - it was a different process than the early activities of the contact personality. These early activities seemed - at first - typical of "channeling" activities. The patient spoke while in a trance. He also produced what were apparently "automatic" writings. Yet, there is no record - whatever - of any individual having seen him write. In fact, "History Two" states that: "During those early years, all of our observations and investigations utterly failed to reveal the . . . technique of reducing the messages to writing." Perhaps the most baffling thing about the early messages that were produced by the Contact Personality was their astounding content. The doctor involved could not explain the unique material, nor how the patient seemed to be able to produce it. The physician retained scientific objectivity, and was especially skeptical in the early years of the process. History Two states: "Those of us who early attended the nocturnal vigils never suspected that we were in contact with anything supernatural." Eventually, the doctor provisionally accepted the validity of the material that was being recorded. His unqualified conviction developed over many years, and was based upon the quality of the content of the Urantia Papers - and the precise philosophic consistency of the complex and voluminous material - not upon the puzzling and unexplained technique by which the Papers were materialized. Throughout his life, the doctor urged others to study and evaluate the Urantia Papers solely upon their content - not upon any phenomena that may have been associated with their appearance. The doctor, in the appendix of his 1929 book, describes the material as ". . . essentially Christian, and is, on the whole, entirely harmonious with the known scientific facts and truths of this age." He also stated that: "Eighteen years of study and careful investigation have failed to reveal the psychic origin of these messages. . . Its philosophic content is quite new, and we have been unable to find where very much of it has ever found human expression." A CLEAR LINE OF DEMARCATION It is important to establish a distinction between the early communications and the remarkable events that eventually produced the actual text of the Urantia Papers. After the Forum [originally 30 people] was brought into the process [circa 1924], they submitted questions to the "celestial beings" through the Contact Commission. According to the histories, the answers to the questions were written out - it was never understood precisely how - and formed a kind of first working draft for the Urantia Papers. The written materials were subsequently typed, the typed papers verified, and finally, the original written material destroyed. Eventually the typed copies were also destroyed, per instructions by the Revelators. It is clear that all of the text of the Urantia Papers was materialized in written form. The puzzling aspects of how this was done completely baffled the doctor and several other experts in psychic phenomena who were called in. In addition, at some point handwriting experts were asked to examine the written material. They verified that the handwritten material was not the patient's
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-Caveat Lector- wasn't the Urantia Book designed to help American Christians accept the idea of being IMPLANTED - and is it not now some NSA and NWO scam ?? are the remote controlled teletubby generation Urantians ?? sort of 'live at peace with your implant' and don't be bad - and you ARE bad and abherrant if you don't want an implant etc etc Andrew Hennessey Transformation Studies Group Edinburgh Scotland DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- As they say, different strokes for different folks; must read it, and find a copy. Thank you again; it took a lot of knowledge to compile this into one book...four sections, as you said. I am looking forward to reading; library did not have copy here. Colleen Am trying around. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/12/99 2:43:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: wasn't the Urantia Book designed to help American Christians accept the idea of being IMPLANTED - and is it not now some NSA and NWO scam ?? are the remote controlled teletubby generation Urantians ?? sort of 'live at peace with your implant' and don't be bad - and you ARE bad and abherrant if you don't want an implant etc etc Andrew Hennessey Transformation Studies Group Edinburgh Scotland Hi Andrew The vast majority of christians will not go near this book, so how can they be "misled"? The Urantia book EXPOSES the puppet masters behind the NWO and the NSA. You are way off base with your implant theory. Don't confuse the indwelling spirit of God with man-made biochips. Biochips are intended to control and manipulate. You can implant me with the spirit of God all day long if you like..but biochips...I will die first. Kinda DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- so tell me what you got out of it DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- why would they want to control us by use of a biochip? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- sounds like a lot of bullshit to me! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- I attended a few meetings of readings/study of this book at Huntsville library a couple f years ago later there was a meeting in Nashville at Vanderbilt Univ. for a three day seminar that I declined. It seemed to be a telling of the Bible plus other events fro different perspective. I found it complicated it came at a time in my life where I just didn't have the time to put into it to really find out what it was about. I do ave the book somewhere and believe nice blue bound copies can be had for $20-25. I did notice some other people in the library scowling at our meeting, closing the door for us, et c. Amelia . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/11/99 4:26:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you very much. Something I will have to read. Colleen Ewe!...I don't hear that very often..usually it's.."no thanks..that's too weird for me"..hehe Kinda DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Urantia
-Caveat Lector- -Caveat Lector- Has anyone had any experience/knowledge of the Urantia (http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~urantia/book.htm ) following? Some friends of mine have really gotten into this...I was particularly curious if there was a Zechariah Sitchin ( http://user.tninet.se/~gbl020q/zechariah.htm ) relationship. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: Has anyone had any experience/knowledge of the Urantia (http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~urantia/book.htm ) following? Some friends of mine have really gotten into this...I was particularly curious if there was a Zechariah Sitchin ( http://user.tninet.se/~gbl020q/zechariah.htm ) relationship. never ever seen the two path cross DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/11/99 10:25:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has anyone had any experience/knowledge of the Urantia (http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~urantia/book.htm ) following? Some friends of mine have really gotten into this...I was particularly curious if there was a Zechariah Sitchin ( http://user.tninet.se/~gbl020q/zechariah.htm ) relationship. Hi Jerry I have been a reader of the Urantia Book for almost 3 years. I read it almost daily. It is a most remarkable book. Sitchin has stumbled onto some of the information that the Urantia Book speaks of, but as far as I know Sitchin is not a reader. I heard that he does know of the Urantia book tho. Some of Sitchin's material contradicts the Urantia Book, but if Sitchin were to read it, I think he would be upset by the fact that he would have to rewrite or rethink some of his theories. Kinda DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- i have at a ufo conference! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- i have tried ready the urantia book but i find it very difficult to read. what kind of mindset are you in when you read it and what kind of knowledge do you gain from it? robert DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/11/99 11:01:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i have tried ready the urantia book but i find it very difficult to read. what kind of mindset are you in when you read it and what kind of knowledge do you gain from it? robert Hi Robert The Urantia book is very difficult to read..especially the forward..just skip that, the rest of the book isn't as difficult. My mindset is very open..that is a pre-requisite. The knowledge contained in this book is extraordinary. You feel like you are standing on top of the highest mountain and seeing EVERYTHING in a new light after you are done reading it. This book is the link to the BIG PICTURE. It is the key in helping to make sense of alot of material presented on this conspiracy list. Keep trying to read it Robert..there are forces at work that will help you to understand it. :)) Kinda DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- what exactly do you mean "forces at work" that will help me understand it? robert DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/11/99 11:27:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what exactly do you mean "forces at work" that will help me understand it? robert I mean heavenly helpers who have their wills aligned with the Universal/Heavenly Father of all. I don't mean evil forces or ET's. Kinda DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Thank you very much. Something I will have to read. Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/11/99 1:53:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is Urantia..Ura valley? Thanks. Tell me about the story; because if Bob had a problem, I know I would also. Colleen Hi Colleen... Urantia means earth..I have included a description of the book below. Kinda -- -- The URANTIA Book - A Description The URANTIA Book is a unique publication of epochal significance to the people of our planet, Urantia. It contains 2,097 pages, and is divided into four parts. It tells about Deity, the organization and administration of universes and the relation of the planet on which we live to the universe, of the genesis and destiny of man and his relation to God, and of the teachings of Jesus Christ. It speaks to man's deep spiritual yearnings and satisfies the intellect, fully harmonizing religion, philosophy, and today's science through the fostering of individual spiritual growth and an understanding of the universe which are commensurate with man's intellectual and cultural development. It opens new vistas of time and eternity, new concepts of man's ever ascending adventure of finding God the Father. This book of 196 papers gives a new, comprehensive, organized record of man's origin, history and destiny. Part I The Central and Superuniverse These thirty one papers depict the nature of Deity, the reality of Paradise, the organization and working of the central and superuniverses, the personalities of the grand universe, and the high destiny of evolutionary mortals. They were sponsored, formulated, and put into English by a commission of twenty four spiritual administrators acting in accordance with a mandate issued by high deity authorities (the Ancients of Days) directing that they do this on Urantia in the year A.D. 1934. Part II The Local Universe A local universe is the handiwork of a Creator Son of the Paradise order of Michael. It comprises one hundred constellations, each embracing one hundred systems of inhabited worlds. Each system will eventually contain approximately one thousand inhabited spheres. Our world, Urantia, belongs to a local universe whose sovereign is Michael, the Son of God and the Son of Man, known on this world as Jesus of Nazareth. In the central universe the Universal Father (God) is personally present; in the universes and planets of space our Father is being represented by his Sovereign Sons, while he is intimately present in the minds of his mortal children through his indwelling spirit, The Thought Adjusters. The twenty five papers comprising Part II tell the story of man's ascension career following his initial life on the evolutionary planet. -- -- Part III The History of Urantia Around 1,000,000,000 years ago Urantia had attained approximately its present size. At this time it was placed upon the physical registries of our local universe, Nebadon, and given its name, Urantia. (Page 660, Par. 3) The sixty three papers comprising this section relate the history of our planet, the geologic development, the establishment of life, and the evolution and history of man, evolving civilizations, human institutions and governments. Here also are discussed the Trinity concept, the evolution of religion, the indwelling spirit of God (the Thought Adjuster), personality survival, the bestowals of Christ Michael. "Urantia is the sentimental shrine of all Nebadon, the chief of ten million inhabited worlds, the mortal home of Christ Michael...And your record tells the truth when it says that this same Jesus has promised some time to return to the world of his terminal bestowal, the World of the Cross." (Page 1319, Par. 1) Part IV The Life and Teachings of Jesus These seventy seven papers give a year by year account of the life and teachings of the Son of Man, his childhood, youth, and early travels, his personal and public ministry, the choosing and training of the twelve apostles, his trial, death, and resurrection. This biography of Jesus occupies the last third of The URANTIA Book. The first three sections of the book constitute an informing introduction, a universe backdrop, for the enthralling drama of this human divine life of Jesus on our planet. The presentation, therefore, of the picture of this matchless life in its cosmic frame is rightly the climax, the fitting conclusion of the URANTIA revelation. Jesus' life and precepts, in their original form, unencumbered by tradition and dogma, are by far the greatest possible help that mortal man can have in his age long climb to Paradise. "The great hope of Urantia lies in the possibility of a new revelation of Jesus with a new and enlarged presentation of his saving message which would spiritually unite in loving service the numerous families of his present day professed followers." (Page
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-Caveat Lector- Kinda, I do not believe in gods, I believe in actions. Actions spawn life and death, sorrow and joy. The devil is a lie of men. There is no war of gods. There is ONE GOD. There is much in history, unknown and distant in the mists of time. Have you read Cayce? Express yourself. To the Utmost of Futures . . . MHO Om K - In a message dated 12/31/98 10:23:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have to agree with you that no..you don't need all of it's "flowery" talk to understand cause and affect. But I for one am thrilled to have finally found the details about God and Jesus and everything else the book covers. I have wondered about this stuff my whole life. Some of the science it contains is outdated, but as far as the history..I haven't run across too many errors. Remember the part about the Fandors? the big birds that flew some of the primative natives around during the time of adam and eve..well..a few years ago Dan Rather on the CBS evening news..told america that some scientists had uncovered the fossils of a bird with a 500 ft. wing span. Supposedly these fandors were able to "talk"..we have birds that talk today..they are called parrots. I am really not trying to shove this down anyone's throat, although it may seem that way to some. For me this book has been the key to understanding the motives and strange happenings that are going on within our government and elsewhere..there is even a bigger picture than what the conspiracies uncover. After a while..after many readings of the UB..there exists..between the lines of this fascinating book..little gems that have been a great aid in desciphering the mysteries that seem to surround us. I would like to ask you MHO..what you thought of the paper on our fallen Planetary Prince..Caligastia?..did you believe it? Well..you know I do..hehe..I have come to the conclusion that it is this same fallen planetary prince (aka the devil) that is the mastermind behind the NWO. It is Caligastia's plan to stop evolution and free will choices in it's tracks. Cal's goal is to become god of Urantia. And you know what that means..the celestials will not stand idly by while evolution or free will is tampered with. I sound like a nut..i know..oh well..I am having a blast. :) Kinda Kinda, I first ran into the Urantia Book about thirty years ago. I have a copy. I have read through much of it. It was a channled book. If you care to live you life by it , fine. Presonally. I do not believe it to be a salvation revalation. Ya really do not need all its flowery talk to understand how one actions affect your world. And I would question much of the history in the Urantia Book. Jesus had the KISS principle down. Treat others as you would treat yourself and love God with all you heart and soul. Pretty simple and straightforward. MHO DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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Table of Contents
1. The Urantia Book
2. Dr. William Sadler
3. Dr. John Kellogg
4. Ellen White's Plagiarisms
5. The Living Temple
6. Wilfred Custer Kellogg
7. The Revelation Begins
8. Harold Sherman and Harry Loose
9. OAHSPE
10. Science in The Urantia Book, Part I
11. Science in The Urantia Book, Part II
12. Adventist Influence on The Urantia Book
13. Sadler and Sister White
14. Did Sadler Contribute to the Papers? Part I
15. Did Sadler Contribute to the Papers? Part II
16. Plagiarisms in The Urantia Book
17. Bitter Schisms
18. Joe Pope and the New Teachers
19. The Great Rebellion
App. A. Books by William Sadler, Sr.
App. B. Books by Harold Sherman
App. C. Sherman's Letter to Sadler
App. D. The Story of Joseph of Arimathaea
App. E. Unusual Words and Phrases that Sadler and The Urantia Book Have
in Common
App. F. Acknowledgments
Name Index
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The media has temporarily turned its large but constantly blinking eye
away from cult-of-the-day reportage after the Waco conflagration, but
such organizations continue to collect adherents. Martin Gardner, best
known as mathematical-games-meister for Scientific American, turns his
refreshingly unblinking gaze on the origin and continuing growth of the
Urantian cult, whose members believe they are receiving corrigenda to
the Bible from celestial beings. A marvellous study of the ways in which
the zaniest ideas can be propagated through society.
From Booklist , April 1, 1995
The Urantia Book is at the center of one of the more interesting
esoteric American sects in a century full to bursting with them. As
such, it was bound to attract premier debunker Gardner's attention.
Gardner begins by regrettably briefly recapitulating the book itself and
summarizing the history of the Urantians' connections with Sister Ellen
White and the Seventh-Day Adventists and other fin de sie{
}cle
religionists, and he closes with a panorama of the present state of the
Urantia movement and its reforms and schisms. But Gardner uses the core
of his text to establish, by textual analysis and other tools, Dr.
William Sadler as The Urantia Book's main, if not sole, author. Whether
he succeeds in this endeavor each reader will decide individually; his
case is certainly remarkably compelling. There are a few flaws, for the
sheer weight of facts unearthed by his research sometimes overpowers the
thread of his argument. And sometimes Gardner allows himself to wax
sarcastic at an especially egregious example of inanity. But then, who
wouldn't? Dennis Winters
Copyright© 1995, American Library Association. All rights reserved
Martin Gardner, one of America's most acclaimed science writers, has
here compiled the first complete history of a growing, modern religious
cult. Gardner traces the cult's beginnings back to its "bible," The
Urantia Book, a book supposedly revealed solely by celestial beings to
correct the flaws in the traditional Bible. Published in 1955 under the
direction of cult leader Dr. William Sadler, The Urantia Book (Urantia
is the cult's name for the earth) is the largest work ever said to have
been channeled by unseen higher beings through human contacts. It
differs from earlier channeled "bibles" in that it contains a vast
amount of modern science as well as a detailed biography of Jesus
Christ, complete with facts not found in the Gospels. As a result, many
scientists and scholars are dedicated Urantians. In addition to
discussing the beliefs of the Urantia cult, Gardner reveals two major
developments that threaten to splinter the movement. The first is a
sectarian rift that has split the movement into two major competing
factions. The second is the growing belief of hundreds of Urantians that
they, too, are receiving their own messages from the celestials, who
they claim are preparing Urantia for a new revelation intended to usher
in a utopia of
