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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/1/99 6:31:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Clinton is a target of many ugly forces AND he has a more compassionate domestic agenda than his predecessors. I tend to side with people who are assassinated or picked-on a lot, and I'm a sucker for a President who pushes universal health care, family leave legislation, and improvement in education, etc. Samantha Again with the compassion. What about all the workers who lost jobs in his NAFTA and other international agreements? What about kicking people off of welfare? Spare me the compassion bullshit because I don't buy it. As for family leave, I'll gladly give credit where credit is due, it is a good policy, but it was not enacted out of compassion, but political expediency. Now all the sudden the "heathen Chinese" are "bad" and their human rights record is atrocious. They were the same the whole time what happened to your presidents vaunted compassion when thousands of Chinese are killed and their human rights violated? What was Clinton doing about it, he was giving them Most Favored Nation status, he was selling them advanced computers, satellites and weapon systems. Did he suddenly GET compassion, or was it a matter of people finally looking at the sordid business with China and he has to hurry to cover his guilty behind? You're a fool if you choose the former option. Don't forget the Cox report is coming out soon, maybe this is a little [preemptive "wag the dog" to make the gullible Clinton lovers jump on the Compassion Bandwagon just in time to yet again deny that he ever did anything wrong. Support him if you want but please pick a better reason than the ridiculous compassion issue because you just make yourself look foolish. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: Unfortunately, sucker is the right choice in words. Socialism in all its forms is nothing but a ruse to enslave. Do you really think compassionate is an accurate word for Clinton? The first two words my nephew learned were: cookie and grandma. What more did he need to know? The socialists aren't dumb. They know that you can fool most of the people most of the time. Just keep telling them how compassionate you are. Tell them you can feel their pain, etc. Howard Davis sounds to me like you have a socialist conspiracy on your hands. the walls have ears; loose lips sink ships. be careful, they are everywhere. ever read "word controlled humans"; well don't: you might learn that your spooks are only words and that you are shadow boxing and thinking that you are the star of the fight of the century at madison square gardens; you aint. socialist my ai double crookaletter. c DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-03-02 00:52:13 EST, you write: Support him if you want but please pick a better reason than the ridiculous compassion issue because you just make yourself look foolish. Teo1000 Yeah, I suppose he was "compassionate" when he bombed an aspirin factory in Sudan to take the heat off himself during the impeachment proceedings... Or, maybe he was "compassionate" when he elected to bomb Iraq so it wouldn't interfere with their religious holiday... never mind the Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines who were over there during Christmas... Maybe it was with "compassion" that he gave away U.S parks to the U.N. or when he put massive amounts of public and private lands under U.N. control in his "Heritage River" project. Or, here's an oldie, but a goodie... maybe he was being "compassionate" when he dodged the draft... and all the time I thought he was just a coward. Maybe he was being "compassionate" and sharing his Presidential pecker with women less fortunate than his wife... he was so "compassionate" he even shared his member with women who didn't appreciate his "compassion" at the time. I'm glad he's so compassionate, because if he was a bastard all hell would have broke loose by now. Regards, Bob Stokes DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/1/99 7:01:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please show me in the Constitution that clause which allows any branch of the federal government to push, advocate, legislate, support or otherwise have power over, universal health care, family leave legislation, or improvement in education. Hint: There isn't any. The Feds have NO power. The 10th Amendment applies. These items are under the power of the states and the people. And there you have the problem. The people have no power either. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-03-02 00:52:13 EST, you write: Again with the compassion. What about all the workers who lost jobs in his NAFTA and other international agreements? What about kicking people off of welfare? Spare me the compassion bullshit because I don't buy it. I said "more compassionate" and I meant it. You think the flack he and Hillary got for trying to expand health care means nothing, too? In more ways than not, he's like Bush. Continuing with NAFTA (which he didn't originate), continuing with satellite technology sales to China (which began in the Reagan years) continuing with MFN status for China, continuing with the Iraqi policy- fiasco. But there are some differences and they reflect a greater sensitivity to the needs of ordinary people. Greater, as in less than zero. Not great. After Reagan and Bush, any little dribbles of effort to help regular folk are an improvement. 'Nuff said already. You're detemrined to pigeon-hole those who don't think Clinton is the Antichrist. Go ahead. Samantha DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/2/99 9:13:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But there are some differences and they reflect a greater sensitivity to the needs of ordinary people. Greater, as in less than zero. Not great. After Reagan and Bush, any little dribbles of effort to help regular folk are an improvement. 'Nuff said already. You're detemrined to pigeon-hole those who don't think Clinton is the Antichrist. Go ahead. Samantha I will only continue to point out things that his supporters refuse to recognize. Bush=Horrible, Reagan=Under Bush's thumb, thus Horrible. Neither seemed very compassionate, not because they were necessarily any less compassionate than Clinton, who is a user extraordinaire and thus lacking in any human sense of compassion, rather Bush and Reagan lacked political savvy and charisma to fool people into THINKING they were compassionate. Only a true master of manipulation like Clinton could cry about the children and throw the bone of the Family and Medical Leave Act to the workers who got him elected while stabbing them in the back with NAFTA and GATT, and then have them PRAISE him, none the wiser to his treachery (it must have been the evil republicans who FORCED him to do it, etc.) Bush could never have pulled it off, that is for sure. Just like women in the NOW and other liberal groups staying absolutely quiet through all the mess with his sexual side show, while VILIFYING people like Clarence Thomas (Who BTW I am not defending in any way) simply because he isn't going to cry and make it seem like he is a victim, and of course because he is a "conservative" and thus AUTOMATICALLY evil incarnate. Consider Reagan who was a master at manipulation but only in a limited way. He had everyone convinced that he really cared about the country, and was ultrapatriotic, but everyone would agree that he had little compassion for the individual people affected by his policies. Bush lacked any ability in this regard, maybe because he is so high up in the elite circle he felt he didn't need to do anything of the sort. I am more than willing to give Clinton 100% credit for his skills at manipulation, and fooling people, just look at you Samantha you appear to be a politically aware and very intelligent person and yet you refuse to see what is clearly before your eyes that he is just like al the rest. I understand your reluctance to admit that you were taken in, and I'm not asking you to do so, just to spare me any fractured reasoning that tries to justify his cutthroat policies (just because he was JUST CONTINUING NAFTA and GATT and the MFN for China does not make him any less responsible for the death and misery that those have caused) by saying he is compassionate. I don't want to pigeonhole anyone just have to call them like I see them, I don't believe in a "lesser of 2 evils" approach in politics. Just because Bush was Beezelbub and did nothing but promote an agenda of control and military expansion, and thus is the greater evil (not to mention his being a true member of the elite class who really run the show and keep people in a perpetual state of slavery) does it mean I will blindly sit by and say "well Clinton is MORE compassionate" and thus support him. No way, and I just wish highly intelligent people like you would see through his ruse that's all. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/2/99 5:13:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SNIP a bunch more good stuff. Maybe he was being "compassionate" and sharing his Presidential pecker with women less fortunate than his wife... he was so "compassionate" he even shared his member with women who didn't appreciate his "compassion" at the time. I'm glad he's so compassionate, because if he was a bastard all hell would have broke loose by now. Regards, Bob Stokes Thanks Bob, I needed that. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Teo One Thousand wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/2/99 5:13:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SNIP a bunch more good stuff. Maybe he was being "compassionate" and sharing his Presidential pecker with women less fortunate than his wife... he was so "compassionate" he even shared his member with women who didn't appreciate his "compassion" at the time. I'm glad he's so compassionate, because if he was a bastard all hell would have broke loose by now. Regards, Bob Stokes Thanks Bob, I needed that. Teo1000 Just in case this was lost in a long post! Laura aka The Pied Piper Subject: I Agree... This letter was written by Eric Jowers, a retired Army Officer, who served as public affairs officer at Fort Rucker from 1989 to 1991. He now lives in Ozark, Alabama. - Dear Mr. President: It's not about sex. If it were about sex, you would be long gone. Just like a doctor, attorney or teacher who had sex with a patient, client or student half his age, you would have violated the ethics of your office and would be long gone. Just like a Sergeant Major of the Army, Gene McKinney, who though found not guilty, was forced to resign amid accusations of sexual abuse. Remember the Air Force General you wouldn't nominate to be Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff because he freely admitted to an affair almost 15 years before, while he and his wife were separated? Unlike you, he was never accused of having a starry-eyed office assistant my daughter's age perform oral sex on him while he was on the phone and his wife and daughter were upstairs. If it were about sex, you should be subjected to the same horrible hearings that Clarence Thomas was subjected to because of the accusations of Anita Hill. The only accusation then was that he talked dirty to her; he didn't even leave semen stains on her dress. No, it's not about sex. It's about character. It's about lying. It's about arrogance. It's about abuse of power. It's about dodging the draft and lying about it. When caught in a lie by letters you wrote, you concocted a story that nobody believed. But we excused it and looked away. It's about smoking dope, and lying about it. "I didn't inhale," you said. Sure, and when I was 15 and my buddies and I swiped a beer from an unwatched refrigerator, we drank from it, but we didn't swallow. "I broke no laws of the United States," you said. That's right, you smoked dope in England or Norway or Moscow; where you were demonstrating against the U.S.A. You lied, but we excused it and looked away. It's about you selling overnight stays in the White House to any foreigner or other contributor with untraceable cash. It's about Whitewater and Jim and Susan McDougal and Arkansas, Gov. Jim Guy Tucker and Vincent Foster and Jennifer Flowers and Paula Jones and Karen Willey and nearly countless others. It's about stealing the records from Foster's office while his body was still warm and putting them in your bedroom and "not noticing them" for two years. It's about illegal political contributions. It's about you and Al Gore soliciting contributions and selling influence at Buddhist temples and in the same Oval Office where Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt led their countries through the dark days of wars that threatened the very existence of our nation. But we excused you and looked away. It's about hiding evidence from Ken Starr, refusing to testify, filing legal motions, coaching witnesses, obstructing justice and delaying Judge Starr's inquiry for months and years, and then complaining that it has gone on too long. The polls agreed. Thank goodness that Judge Starr didn't read the polls, play politics or excuse you and look away. He held on to the evidence like a tenacious bulldog. Your supporters say that you've confessed your wrong doings and asked for our forgiveness. Listen, what you said on TV the night you testified to the grand jury was not a confession; overwhelming evidence is not a confession at all. Not that it would make a lot of difference. A murderer who contritely confesses his crime is still a murderer. When your "confession" didn't sell, even to your friends, you became more forthcoming. Maybe someday you'll confess more, but probably not. You've established such a pattern of lying that we can't believe you anymore. Neither can your cabinet, the Congress or any of the leaders of the nations of the world. When a leader's actions defame and emasculate our country as profoundly as yours have, it's no longer a personal matter, as you claim. It's no longer a matter among you, your family and your God. By the way, I don't believe for a minute that Hillary was unaware of your sexual misadventures, abuses of power and pattern of lying. She has been a party to your wrong doings since
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/2/99 11:36:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe he was being "compassionate" and sharing his Presidential pecker with women less fortunate than his wife... he was so "compassionate" he even shared his member with women who didn't appreciate his "compassion" at the time. I'm glad he's so compassionate, because if he was a bastard all hell would have broke loose by now. Regards, Bob Stokes Does it occur to you that you might have a hangup or a bad case of penis envy. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Teo One Thousand wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/28/99 10:43:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The nuts have howled for 6 years about Clinton not being fit for the Presidency because he claims he didn't inhale. No, not true. It just makes him an IDIOT, if true. Just because G. Bush and others who attack Clinton are evil incarnate (which I agree somewhat with BTW) it doe not logically follow that Clinton is good by any means. Teo1000 This is an interesting observation. I have a friend who bases his whole political philosophy on his belief that the Catholic Church is the focus of evil in the world. So, any group that is opposed to the Catholic Church is automatically good and anyone that has any good to say of them is bad. I once saw a pretty poor film called "Dick Tracy". It was pretty much a live action cartoon. Seemingly not very deep. However, there was a scene in which Dick Tracy (Warren Beatty) is trying to figure things out. He is confused by the "moll" played by Madonna. He knows that she is the enemy of the bad guys, but he can't quite figure out if he should trust her. He says: "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" a couple of times with a sort of questioning sound in his voice. Then he realizes "the enemy of my enemy, is my enemy". Pretty simplistic, but there are a lot of people out there who still haven't figured that out. They figure out that some group or person is their enemy (perhaps not wholly accurately) and then base their whole philosophy around this observation. Socialists think that everyone with money is there enemy. Christians think anyone who is not born again. Republicans, democrats, etc. It isn't always as simple as people would like. Recently I was in a group who was protesting the use of fingerprints on driver's licenses. The woman who was the real leader behind the protests was a long time John Bircher. She told me she had a lot of trouble dealing with the fact that the ACLU was one her staunchest allies in the fight. Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/1/99 1:07:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The nuts have howled for 6 years about Clinton not being fit for the Presidency because he claims he didn't inhale. No, not true. It just makes him an IDIOT, if true. Just because G. Bush and others who attack Clinton are evil incarnate (which I agree somewhat with BTW) it doe not logically follow that Clinton is good by any means. Teo1000 This is an interesting observation. I have a friend who bases his whole political philosophy on his belief that the Catholic Church is the focus of evil in the world. So, any group that is opposed to the Catholic Church is automatically good and anyone that has any good to say of them is bad. I once saw a pretty poor film called "Dick Tracy". It was pretty much a live action cartoon. Seemingly not very deep. However, there was a scene in which Dick Tracy (Warren Beatty) is trying to figure things out. He is confused by the "moll" played by Madonna. He knows that she is the enemy of the bad guys, but he can't quite figure out if he should trust her. He says: "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" a couple of times with a sort of questioning sound in his voice. Then he realizes "the enemy of my enemy, is my enemy". Pretty simplistic, but there are a lot of people out there who still haven't figured that out. They figure out that some group or person is their enemy (perhaps not wholly accurately) and then base their whole philosophy around this observation. Socialists think that everyone with money is there enemy. Christians think anyone who is not born again. Republicans, democrats, etc. It isn't always as simple as people would like. Recently I was in a group who was protesting the use of fingerprints on driver's licenses. The woman who was the real leader behind the protests was a long time John Bircher. She told me she had a lot of trouble dealing with the fact that the ACLU was one her staunchest allies in the fight. Howard Davis Thanks Howard, a good synopsis of my whole point. Also in the post that Samantha sent to the list it was at least implied that Bush was one of the ones out to get Clinton all these years. I think that is plain wrong, all one has to do is look at the election, Bush handed over the reins to Clinton, he didn't even try to beat him, and talk about kid gloves, they were worn by both, because they each had a secret on the other that they could use to hurt the other thus political blackmail (Mena Arkansas and other things to be sure). During the whole mess with Clinton's sexual side show Bush has been profoundly silent and unwilling to comment when the opportunity clearly existed for him to spout rhetoric against Bill he never did. Quite true, the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend and may in fact just be waiting for the opportunity to stab me in the back when the other guy is out of the way. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/1/99 11:43:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sure). During the whole mess with Clinton's sexual side show Bush has been profoundly silent and unwilling to comment when the opportunity clearly existed for him to spout rhetoric against Bill he never did. George knew to leave the situation alone. He himself is not without blemish, and his son could probably teach Clinton a few things. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-03-01 11:43:26 EST, you write: Thanks Howard, a good synopsis of my whole point. Also in the post that Samantha sent to the list it was at least implied that Bush was one of the ones out to get Clinton all these years. I think that is plain wrong, all one has to do is look at the election, Bush handed over the reins to Clinton, he didn't even try to beat him, and talk about kid gloves, they were worn by both, because they each had a secret on the other that they could use to hurt the other thus political blackmail (Mena Arkansas and other things to be sure). I certainly do think Bush's team had to do with the scandals du jour that were facing Clinton in the election. Just because Bush hasn't commented publicly doesn't mean they're on the same side of the coin. George, former CIA Director, would be in harmony with all these black ops, in my view, though I've never read of a direct connection betwen Bush and Mellon Scaife. Dad George had a "mistress issue" during his Presidency and he must be aware of his own son's past. With an eye to the future, he could well be keeping quiet about the sex scandals for these reasons. I agree that the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend, though in this case, I lean toward the lesser of two evils. Clinton's foreign policy is not very different from Bush's and this alone gives one pause to wonder if they are both puppets of the same master. But if I am duped, I am duped by two facts: Clinton is a target of many ugly forces AND he has a more compassionate domestic agenda than his predecessors. I tend to side with people who are assassinated or picked-on a lot, and I'm a sucker for a President who pushes universal health care, family leave legislation, and improvement in education, etc. Samantha DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- At 06:30 PM 3/1/99 EST, you wrote: I tend to side with people who are assassinated or picked-on a lot, and I'm a sucker for a President who pushes universal health care, family leave legislation, and improvement in education, etc. Samantha Please show me in the Constitution that clause which allows any branch of the federal government to push, advocate, legislate, support or otherwise have power over, universal health care, family leave legislation, or improvement in education. Hint: There isn't any. The Feds have NO power. The 10th Amendment applies. These items are under the power of the states and the people. ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Patriot Resource Center: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6627/ **Live Free or Die!** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] interpol heroin (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On 27 Feb 99, , Kris wrote: and george bush jr. was/is a cocaine addict in the eighties whilst george bush senior was selling arms for coke for arms for coke for arms and legs with the contras et al. karma is a bitch...and then we die. Forget the drugs. What no one is talking about is the billions of dollars the bush boys stole. No one cares? Jeb Bush was just elected in Florida --in spite of his connection to that "friend" who stole all those bucks from Medicare (?). Sex is bad but stealing billions of dollars is okay? From the level of not-caring, you would think they were sharing their booty with the rest of us. sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] interpol heroin (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-02-28 00:08:51 EST, you write: Forget the drugs. What no one is talking about is the billions of dollars the bush boys stole. No one cares? Jeb Bush was just elected in Florida --in spite of his connection to that "friend" who stole all those bucks from Medicare (?). Sex is bad but stealing billions of dollars is okay? From the level of not-caring, you would think they were sharing their booty with the rest of us. sno0wl And don't leave out Neil from "Silverado" which makes Madison Guarantee look like a stick up at a 7-11. As I understand it, he loaned money from there to at least GW -- maybe to more family members, and it was never paid back. The nuts have howled for 6 years about Clinton not being fit for the Presidency because he claims he didn't inhale. Liar liar liar pothead commie blah blah blah is all we've heard. Watch the squealers go mute on GW's past, and TELL me there isn't a black op to get Clinton out. Even when I'm frustrated with the President, I am reminded there must be many really GOOD things about him. A person can be judged from the quality of his enemies. He's got the lowest, most slimeball enemies who use the lowest of all tactics to get at him. My God, maybe he's a SAINT. Yeah, Saint Bill. Has a nice ring to it. Watch that blood pressure now, folks. Samantha DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] interpol heroin (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/28/99 10:43:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The nuts have howled for 6 years about Clinton not being fit for the Presidency because he claims he didn't inhale. No, not true. It just makes him an IDIOT, if true. Just because G. Bush and others who attack Clinton are evil incarnate (which I agree somewhat with BTW) it doe not logically follow that Clinton is good by any means. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] interpol heroin (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- from alt.politics.org.nsa - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.politics.org.nsa:14256"interpol heroin (fwd)/A - Subject: interpol heroin (fwd) From: rosaphil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, Feb 26, 1999 10:43 AM Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and george bush jr. was/is a cocaine addict in the eighties whilst george bush senior was selling arms for coke for arms for coke for arms and legs with the contras et al. karma is a bitch...and then we die. +** Snail me yer rosehips if you liked this post! *Better Living Thru Better Living!* http://www.interport.net/~rugosa * -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:39:40 EST From: Dana Beal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: interpol heroin PROPPING UP A HEROIN REGIME Interpol, the international policing agency, is staging the fourth International Heroin Conference in Rangoon, Burma this week in the face of an international uproar by human rights activists. Burma is now called Myanmar by the politically correct, but not by the politically concerned, including me. RCMP drug experts from Vancouver and Bangkok were expecting to attend, but the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade now says the Mounties aren't - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
