-Caveat Lector- From: Michael Novick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:54:44 -0800 >From: Jon Roland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Colby, the FLIR tape, and a new Waco documentary > >In response to a message I forwarded from Ian Goddard, in which he cited >an article from _American Freedom_ magazine, Vol. 1, No. 7, October, >1996, consisting of a report by Gordon Novel of an interview with former >CIA Director William Colby, and in which Goddard recalls Novel to have >claimed to have received the FLIR footage that appeared in the Academy >Award nominated documentary _Waco: the Rules of Engagement_ from Colby, >who is also supposed to have said that President Clinton was "behind" >the Oklahoma City bombing on April 19, 1995, I received an email message >from Michael McNulty, a producer of the Waco documentary, asking me to >call him to get some corrections on that initial report. I called him >January 29, 1999. The following is extracted from my telephone >conversation with McNulty: > >In late 1993 the Davidian defense team received a copy of the FLIR >footage from the FBI through discovery, but they were unable to play it >in their machines. McNulty says he got the tape several months later, >about April, 1994, after the Davidians had been convicted and while they >were awaiting sentencing. The defense team had been unable to play the >tape because it was in a super VHS format that was unlabeled. McNulty >says the lack of a label was at least unprofessional, and at worst an >attempt at obfuscation. McNulty provided a lengthy analysis of the tape >in June, 1994, and returned the tape, after making a dub of it with the >permission of the defense team, onto a digital D2 format. The defense >team sent McNulty's analysis to the U.S. prosecutor, although McNulty's >analysis did not identify the flashes as automatic firearms fire. > >It was about 18 months after McNulty got the tape that former CIA >Director William Colby contacted Gordon Novel, who said that Colby sent >two men to show Novel a high-quality, probably 1st-generation copy, of >the FLIR footage, who pointed out to Novel what to look for on the tape >and where to find it. However, they did not leave a copy of the tape >with Novel at that time. What they pointed out were the signatures of >automatic gunfire by assaulting troops directed at the only exits of the >buildings, which the Davidians would have had to use to escape the fire. > >At that point McNulty had the only copy of the tape, a 3rd-generation >digital D2 copy, other than the one retained by the Davidian defense >lawyer he had obtained it from, and he refused to release it to anyone. >He had already become friends with Gordon Novel, who had begun working >as an investigator for the firm of Ramsey Clark, who had become one of >several law firms representing the Davidians in their civil case. > >Novel told McNulty what Colby's men had told him, and McNulty then took >his tape and the information delivered from Colby through Novel and >sought an expert in interpreting FLIR footage who was not associated >with the government in a way that the expert would not have wanted to >work with McNulty. He found one in Dr. Edward Allard, who appears in the >documentary with his analysis. > >In the meantime, Novel got himself in trouble and was put in jail in >Ohio, and was interviewed by Don Weideman for a series of articles. It >was during these interviews that Novel revealed he had a copy, probably >a 3rd- or 4th-generation copy, of the FLIR footage. > >McNulty's 3rd-generation copy is the FLIR footage that was used in the >documentary. Another dub was made of the 2nd-generation copy the defense >attorney had, and it was that copy which was later passed on to the firm >of Caddell and Chapman, and from them to the firm of former Attorney >General Ramsey Clark. Novel got his 3rd- or 4th-generation copy from Jim >Brannen, one of the civil litigation attorneys. > >Impatient with the delay in getting the footage to the public through >the documentary, Novel took his 3rd- or 4th-generation copy of the FLIR >footage to CBS Sixty Minutes, who sought their own expert analyst in >the firm Infraspections, and that analyst confirmed Allard's analysis of >the flashes as automatic weapons fire. Later, CBS Sixty Minutes >personnel went to members of Congress on the committee investigating the >incident, and misrepresented the results of their expert's analysis to >those congressmen, saying the analyst found no sign of gunfire. They did >not provide a copy of the tape or the analysis of their expert to those >congressmen, who obtained the short segments they viewed during the >hearings from Paul Gray and James Quintiari, federal arson investigators >on the government team. > >That incident, and others, will be coming out in a new documentary >McNulty is producing called _Waco: A New Revelation_, due out in late >February or early March, 1999. In 1998, attorney David Hardy, also >allied with the civil litigation team, was able to obtain a >1st-generation copy of the FLIR footage on VHS, although with a 5-minute >segment missing from the beginning, through a FOIA request, from the >government, and it is that improved and additional footage that will be >shown in the new documentary, which is more clear than that shown in the >documentary _Waco: Rules of Engagement_. > >McNulty has asked Novel for the complete tapes of his conversations with >Colby, but he has only provided short segments of some other telephone >conversations which only seem to be discussing business deals between >them. > >McNulty says the only information he has about what Colby may have told >Novel is what Novel told him, and Novel won't provide the full footage >of the tapes he says he has. McNulty recalls discussing the Oklahoma >City bombing with Novel, but Novel never mentioned to McNulty any >complicity on the part of the White House or president in that incident. > >However, McNulty did do a voice analysis of the tape segments Novel >provided, and the voice is definitely that of William Colby. The >information Novel claims Colby provided him about the FLIR footage >checked out. Novel had a relationship with Colby, and Colby had a >motive, namely the turf battle between the CIA and the FBI regarding >overseas operations. > >McNulty's assessment of Novel's credibility is that one should never >ignore anything Novel says. On the other hand, what he says should be >taken carefully. Novel has a history as a high-level insider. He is an >expert in technical espionage and counter-espionage, and claims to be >the technician who was responsible for the missing 18 minutes in the >Nixon tape. On the other hand, he likes to tell a story, and may put a >spin on what he knows. His checkered past makes him the perfect person >whom a whistleblower might pick to disclose something to in order get >the information out while providing plausible deniability. > >McNulty says Novel deserves a great deal of credit for working himself >almost to death to help the Davidians, and he is certainly the conduit >through which they got the information from Colby about what to look for >in the FLIR footage. But Novel didn't obtain the tape itself from Colby. > >More about Gordon Novel can be found on Lexis-Nexis, and on the WWW, at such >sites as http://www.io.com/~hambone/web/novel.html > >The new documentary, _Waco: A New Revelation_, will be revealing new >non-FLIR video evidence that the government forces fired on the >Davidians during the final assault on April 19, 1993. It will also >present evidence identifying the organizations providing the personnel >who attacked the Davidian complex from the rear, which are seen in the >FLIR footage, which were the FBI Hostage Rescue Team and Delta Force. It >provides evidence that explains how the fire started, and how the >investigation following the fire was compromised, including interviews >with some Texas Rangers who were part of that investigation. It includes >interviews with some of the imprisoned Davidians, and follows the chain >of command of the orders for the final assault all the way to the White >House. It explores some of the unintended consequences of Waco, has an >interview with Randy Weaver, the target of the Ruby Ridge assault, and >reveals that Lon Horiuchi, who the Boundary County, Idaho, prosecutor >attempted to prosecute for shooting Randy's wife Vicki, was also present >at Waco in a position from which fire came toward the Davidians. > >The new documentary, _Waco: A New Revelation_, will probably be first >released on video, and perhaps will also be released theatrically. The >price for the video has not yet been decided. For more information on >it, write: > >C.O.P.S. 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