Re: [CTRL] ] Our Presidential Choices
-Caveat Lector- Buchanan "could get a lot of votes simply because he is seen as an outsider who is scorned for his political stance" -- as was the case with Hitler. No one in the general public paid any attention to Hitler's ties to big business, both German and American; they saw him as the champion of the little guy, who was going to give them all jobs and tromp the shit out of the Jews who were messing up Germany. Who is really behind Pat Buchanan, anyway? The squabble in the Reform Party between Buchanan, Perot, Ventura, and -- of all people -- The Donald (Trump) is utterly bizarre and smacks of shadow play. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 11:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] ] Our Presidential Choices -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/23/99 1:49:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Buchanan=fascism of the nationalist variety." Thats "national socialism" of the Hitler- Mussolini variety. There are indicators in Buchanan of other nat.soc. traits. (l)Racism and anti=semitism (2) economic nationalism (3) militarism (4) the strident leader image (5) appeal to the grass roots (6) dilution of the Nazi threat (7) rigid statist social views. As we have said before Buchanan is Right Hegelian. No change for us Yes. Thanks for the comments. Let me elaborate a little. The main thrust of his National Socialist (fascist) policy will concentrate on the idea of American economic domination, which will be a better tool for world control or policing than the military, though the military will be ready, willing and able to back it up. Interesting point about the strident leader image. His grass roots appeal does seem to gloss over all the nefarious connections he may have had with neo-nazi types and the KKK. He could get a lot of votes simply because he is seen as an outsider who is scorned for his political stance. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] ] Our Presidential Choices
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/23/99 1:49:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Buchanan=fascism of the nationalist variety." Thats "national socialism" of the Hitler- Mussolini variety. There are indicators in Buchanan of other nat.soc. traits. (l)Racism and anti=semitism (2) economic nationalism (3) militarism (4) the strident leader image (5) appeal to the grass roots (6) dilution of the Nazi threat (7) rigid statist social views. As we have said before Buchanan is Right Hegelian. No change for us Yes. Thanks for the comments. Let me elaborate a little. The main thrust of his National Socialist (fascist) policy will concentrate on the idea of American economic domination, which will be a better tool for world control or policing than the military, though the military will be ready, willing and able to back it up. Interesting point about the strident leader image. His grass roots appeal does seem to gloss over all the nefarious connections he may have had with neo-nazi types and the KKK. He could get a lot of votes simply because he is seen as an outsider who is scorned for his political stance. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Our Presidential Choices
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - George Dubya- Elitist. Gore- Follows in Clintons camp as a China led NWO supporter.. Buchanan- Fascism of the Nationalist variety... .. Do you need to be led? I don't. Does anyone here not know how to treat their neighbor as they wish to be treated? Does anyone here not know how to trade fairly? If we can do this, then to HELL with leaders. || In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. || http://www.angelfire.com/mi/smilinks/thirdeye.html || __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Our Presidential Choices
-Caveat Lector- It seems to me that what we have in the way of real choices is just a choice between differing forms of fascism and the means with which the NWO agenda will be advanced. Consider: George Dubya- Elitist, right wing, has made money in Narcotics and in Oil. I see him as having a base of power in SEA with the Chinese as a lesser entity. He will promote NWO agendas that conform to this goal additionally he will shape foreign policy along the lines of increasing the Military expenditures and farming out our troops in just the same way his dad and Clinton have done. I think he harbors in his mind the idea of a USA as the spearhead for the NWO, but just as much about promoting the idea of International Cooperation and economic subjugation. His policies will also conform to his elitist principles, in that the rich will grow fat and the poor will die, all the while professing compassion. He will expand the use of Military force in law enforcement and will take full advantage of EO's to get the job done, by-passing a continued inept and unwilling congress. The Police State will grow by leaps and bounds, because he will be in favor of the 2nd amendment and thus people will still have guns (at least for a while) and he would have to strengthen the police forces to be able to cope with the threat. Gore- Follows in Clintons camp as a China led NWO supporter. Seeing the Chinese in charge in the east and as main players, even superior to the US perhaps. He will continue to promote the same agenda of taking away liberties and attacking the same institutions that his predecessor has. Gun control will be big, the police state will grow as terrorist threats (some real, some phony) make it "necessary". He will be a figurehead for Chinese expansion and consolidation, Taiwan will fall. He is elitist too and thus will support much of what GWB would. Buchanan- Fascism of the Nationalist variety. Very appealing these days. Isolationist talk means that we would disengage OVERT international connections and use backdoor deals where the money will come from. Subtle racism in domestic and foreign policy. Guns are allowed but the military will rise and military involvement in law enforcement will increase. I see Buchanan as someone who wants the NWO in a way in which the US leads and dominates through economic control and strategic use of our military. Not much choice really. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ] Our Presidential Choices
-Caveat Lector- Interesting post from Tenebrous. "Buchanan=fascism of the nationalist variety." Thats "national socialism" of the Hitler- Mussolini variety. There are indicators in Buchanan of other nat.soc. traits. (l)Racism and anti=semitism (2) economic nationalism (3) militarism (4) the strident leader image (5) appeal to the grass roots (6) dilution of the Nazi threat (7) rigid statist social views. As we have said before Buchanan is Right Hegelian. No change for us Interesting too is Perot support for Buchanan if you link this to the post about the Perot-Clinton-Bush coalition. Not surprisingly Perot turns out to be for Hegelian statism and not individual freedom. The inefficiency of the system worries Perot, not so much the basic nature of the system . Useful freedom choices: Paul, Ventura, (Trump?) . Not Buchanan, Perot or Dole.. We need new faces not re treads and certainly not Hegelian re-treads.. ASU DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
