-Caveat Lector- from: http://208.138.42.193/forum/a37ef8e1f479f.htm Click Here: <A HREF="http://208.138.42.193/forum/a37ef8e1f479f.htm">Mind Control Victim Awarded $1 Million [Free R…</A> ----- FreeRepublic.com "A Conservative News Forum" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [ Top | Last | Latest Posts | Latest Articles | Self Search | Add Bookmark | P ost | Abuse | Help! ] Mind Control Victim Awarded $1 Million Crime/Corruption News Keywords: MIND CONTROL, PEDOPHILIA, SATANISM Source: Media Bypass Published: June 1999 Author: Uri Dowbenko Posted on 09/27/1999 08:32:47 PDT by jedediah smith U.S. government mind control programs, like MK-Ultra and Monarch, directed against helpless victims--human guinea pigs--have been virtually ignored by the Big Media Cartel. On Feb. 27, 1999, however, U.S. District Court Judge Warren Urbom found former Franklin S&L manager Lawrence E. King guilty of numerous crimes committed against mind control victim Paul A. Bonacci. King, serving a 15-year sentence for his role in the theft of $40 million from Franklin, an Omaha, Neb., credit union, was ordered by Judge Urbom to pay Bonacci $800,000 in compensatory damages and an additional $200,000 in punitive damages. This legal judgement against a notorious perpetrator of satanic-ritual child abuse is unprecedented. In the Memorandum of Decision, Judge Urbom wrote, "King continually subjected the plaintiff [Bonacci] to repeated sexual assaults, false imprisonment, infliction of extreme emotional distress, organized and directed satanic rituals, forced the plaintiff to 'scavenge' for children to be a part of the d efendant King's sexual abuse and pornography ring, forced the plaintiff to engage in numerous sexual contacts with the defendant King and others and participate in deviate sexual games and masochistic orgies with other minor children. "He [Bonacci] has suffered burns, broken fingers, beatings of the head and face and other indignities by the wrongful actions of the defendant King," the judge declared. "In addition to the misery of going through the experiences just related over a period of eight years [1980-1988], the plaintiff has suffered the lingering results to the present time. "He [Bonacci] is a victim of multiple personality disorder, involving as many as 14 distinct personalities aside from his primary personality," wrote the judge. "He has given up a desired military career and received threats on his life. He suffers from sleeplessness, has bad dreams, has difficulty holding a job, is fearful that others are following him, fears getting killed, has depressing flashbacks, and is verbally violent on occasion, all in connection with the multiple personality disorder and caused by the wrongful activities of the defendant King." Franklin Coverup Bonacci's lawyer, John DeCamp, has waged a long, lonely and expensive legal campaign in exposing crimes involving an international pedophile-pornography ring. In 1991, DeCamp filed a 12-count suit in federal court, charging 16 prominent individuals and institutions, including Lawrence E. King, Omaha World Herald Publisher Harold Andersen and the Omaha Police Department with conspiracy to deprive Paul Bonacci of his civil rights. DeCamp's suit detailed slander, false imprisonment, child abuse, assault, battery and infliction of emotional distress suffered by Bonacci. The complex case also involved high-level politicians, business leaders, judges and police officials with connections to the drug distribution/money laundering operations known as "Iran"-Contra which goes back to then Vice-President George Bush. DeCamp, a former Nebraska State Senator, even wrote a groundbreaking book about the sordid history of the case called The Franklin Cover-Up: Child Abuse, Satanism and Murder in Nebraska. Monarch Project The horrendous Monarch Project "refers to young people in America who were victims of mind control experiments run either by U.S. government agencies such as the Central Intelligence Agency or military intelligence agencies," writes DeCamp. "The story told by Monarch victims--one of whom was Paul Bonacci--is that they were tortured for the purpose of creating 'multiple personalities' within them," DeCamp continues from his book. "These multiple personalities could then be programmed--as spies, 'drug mules,' prostitutes or assassins." An article by Anton Chaitkin, quoted in the book, states that "professionals probing the child victims of 'Monarch' say there are clearly two responsible elements at work: the government/military, and cooperating satanic (or more exactly pagan) cults. These are multi-generation groups, whose parents donate their own children--who are proudly called 'bloodline' or simply 'blood' cultists--to be smashed with drugs and electric shock and shaped. Other children are kidnapped and sold into this hell, or are brought in gradually through day care situations. "Paul Bonacci and other child victims have given evidence in great depth on the central role of Lt. Col. Michael Aquino in this depravity," continues Chaitkin. "Aquino, alleged to have recently retired from an active military role, was long the leader of an Army psychological warfare section which drew on his 'expertise' and personal practices in brainwashing, Satanism, Nazism, homosexual pedophilia and murder." DeCamp's victory in court and the million dollar judgement is a vindication of mind control survivors Paul Bonacci, Alisha Owens and others who were falsely imprisoned to keep them from testifying against their abusers. Police and FBI Cover-Up According to the sworn testimony of Noreen Gosch, an activist on behalf of "Missing Children," whose own 12-year-old son Johnny, a West Des Moines, Iowa paperboy kidnapped in 1991, was drugged and sold into prostitution and pornography. “There was no law on the books in Iowa or most any other state in the country specifying that the police would have to act sooner than 72 hours—even though we had five witnesses that could describe the car, the man and various details of the kidnapping. So I wrote the first piece of legislation which became the Johnny Gosch Bill. Gosch also alleges that the FBI were active in quashing a TV expose. “Just prior to the ‘America’s Most Wanted’ story going on the air…within a week or two of airtime, the FBI in Quantico, Virg. contacted ‘America’s Most Wanted’ and told them to kill the story,” Gosch continued. They did not want the Johnny Gosch story broadcast,” she says. The only reason the story went on is because John Walsh is a personal friend, and he stood up to them, and he said this story goes. This woman does not lie. I’ve known her for years. We’re going with the story. You can fire me afterwards. We’re doing the story. And they did the story. But the FBI tried to kill this story.” When DeCamp, the attorney, asked her if she knew why, she replied, “Well, of course. It would have opened up the biggest scandal in the United States, bigger than the Iran-Contra story. Bigger than President Clinton’s infidelities.” The Satanic-Military MK-Ultra Mind Control Connection Continuing her sworn testimony, Noreen Gosch spoke about “the MK-Ultra program developed in the 1950s by the CIA. It was used to help spy on other countries during the Cold War because they felt that the other countries were spying on us. It was very successful. “…Then there was a man by the name of Michael Aquino. He was in the military. He had top Pentagon clearance. He was a Satanist. He’s founded the Temple of Set. And he was also a very close friend of Anton LaVey [the late founder of the Church of Satan]. The two of them were very active in ritualistic sexual abuse. And they deferred funding from this government program to use this experimentation upon children where they deliberately split off the personalities of these children into multiples, so that when they’re questioned, or put under oath, or questioned under lie detector, that unless the operator knows how to question a multiple personality disorder they turn up with no evidence. ”They use these kids to sexually compromise politicians or anyone else they wish to have control of,” Gosch continued. “This sounds so far out and so bizarre. I had trouble accepting it in the beginning myself, until I was presented with the data. We have the proof. In black and white.” DeCamp asked her, “You known that Colonel Aquino was drummed out of the military?” ”He was,” replied Gosch. “But then there were no charges filed against him that stuck [the San Francisco Presidio child abuse allegations]…I know that Michael Aquino has been in Iowa. I know that Michael Aquino has been to Offutt Air Force Base [described by numerous victims as a center of mind control-ritual abuse]. I know that he had contact with many of these children.” Bonacci’s Story One of the most heart-rendering parts of the court transcript is the testimony of Paul A. Bonacci, the mind control victim survivor, on whose behalf DeCamp sued Lawrence E. King. Bonacci testifed that King took him on many trips to Washington, D.C., Kansas City, Chicago, Minnesota and Los Angeles, where he prostituted the kidnapped and drugged youngster to the rich and famous--and depraved. Bonacci said that “one person I’m not afraid to talk about because Larry King always said him and this guy were on opposite ends of the field because this guy was a Democrat and Larry King was a Republican…And this guy--every time I see him on TV, my wife knows my hatred for him…His name is Barney Frank.” When asked if he “relationships” with him, Bonacci replied, “In Washington, D.C. And also I was sent to a house, I believe it was in Massachusetts in Boston where I believe it was his house because there’s pictures on the wall with him and different people and stuff, that he had met I guess, but it was in his basement. Suffering from Multiple Personality Disorder, currently called Dissassociative Identity Disorder (DID), Bonacci testified that as one of his alters called Wesley, he lured Johnny Gosch into the van when he was kidnapped. ”I went up to him, asked him [Gosch] a question,” said Bonacci. “At that point he was close enough to the car where Tony [another kidnapper] had pulled up in the van and they pushed him in the car and they had a rag with chloroform in the bag that they had us stick over his face. And then put it back in the bag after he was out…We drove several miles…we met up with a station wagon and a van several times.” After switching vehicles and changing direction, the kidnapping of Johnny Gosch was over. More Chilling Memories When the judge asked Paul Bonacci if Lawrence E. King ever sexually abused him, he answered, “Yes, he did on numerous occasions.” How many times would you estimate, the judge then asked. “Probably a couple of hundred. Within all of the different personalities. Beginning at the time I was approximately 12 or 13 years old. Up until I was about 17 or 18.” And what was his primary duty, according to directions he received from Mr. King, asked the judge. “It depended on what was needed,” replied Bonacci. “Most of the time it was to compromise politicians so he could get whatever he wanted from them…If they wanted to get something passed, through the legislature or whatever, he would put some people that were against it in a compromising position, by using us boys and girls.” And how often was he used at these “parties” in Washington? the judge asked. ”Kind of hard to say,” replied Bonacci. “Because there were times when there would be four or five in a night. And I hardly knew, I didn’t know most of them. But probably a couple of thousand times.” New Ramifications Since the judgement in favor of Paul Bonacci contradicts the previous findings of the U.S. Attorney, Nebraska Attorney General, and the entire judicial system regarding the “Franklin Cover-Up,” DeCamp has issued an open letter challenging the verdicts of the last ten years of court battles regarding this case and its principals. DeCamp wrote, “I believe that the U.S. Attorney has no choice but to either charge the witnesses with perjury having testified under oath in a federal court…or the U.S. Attorney has an obligation to investigate further into the Franklin saga and reopen matters. ”This time there are pictures [tens of thousands of pornographic photos taken by Rusty Nelson], continues DeCamp. “This time Rusty Nelson [King’s former porno photographer] exists and testified completely contrary to Chief Wadman’s testimony under oath to the legislature. This time Noreen Gosch validated the credibility and story of Paul Bonacci…At a minimum some Federal or State authority has an obligation to reopen the Alisha Owen case.” Alisha Owen, another mind control victim, was sent to prison for 15 years for refusing to recant her testimony against her abusers, namely former Omaha Police Chief Wadman. Despite this victory, the mind control cover-up continues—as long as Alisha Owen and others remain in prison. And the Monarch Program? As more and more survivors appear and give eyewitness accounts of mind control atrocities, these outrageous human rights abuses—the Secret Holocaust of the 20th Century—will finally become common knowledge. Bibliography Constantine, Alex. Virtual Government: CIA Mind Control Operations in America (1997); $14.95; Feral House, 2532 Lincoln Blvd., Suite 359, Venice CA 90291. DeCamp, John. The Franklin Cover-Up: Child Abuse, Satanism and Murder in Nebraska (1996); $12.95; AWT, Inc., P.O. Box 85461, Lincoln, NE 68501 Mind Control Foundation Website: http://www.mk.net/wmcf. Sullivan, K. MK (1998) $18; K. Sullivan, Box 1328, Soddy Daisy, TN 37384. Taylor, Brice. Starshine: One Woman's Valiant Escape from Mind Control (1995); Brice Taylor Trust, P.O. Box 655, Landrum, S.C. 29356. Dowbenko is CEO of New Improved Entertainment Corp., and can be reached by email at: u>[EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This report is a few months old, but perhaps the coverup will unravel. If so, the story should be followed, especially since the crimes extend to Washington politicians. 1 Posted on 09/27/1999 08:32:47 PDT by jedediah smith [ Reply | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: bondhue, mancini, metalbird1 You may find this of interest. 2 Posted on 09/27/1999 08:36:12 PDT by jedediah smith [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: jedediah smith Disgusting. The death penalty is too good for these villans. One nit-pick though: ..satanic (or more exactly pagan)... "pagan" simply means non-christian; not all non-christian religions are satanic. For example, I cannot picture Bhuddists sanctioning this kind of evil, nor Taoists, nor Wiccans, nor Hindus, ... 3 Posted on 09/27/1999 08:42:08 PDT by CzarChasm (The most INDICTABLE administration in history!) [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: jedediah smith Mind Control? Maybe that explains all those people who voted for Clinton! 4 Posted on 09/27/1999 08:44:43 PDT by dfwgator [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: CzarChasm Media Bypass is linked to the Spotlight, the intellectual publication of the Liberty Lobby. The Liberty Lobby owens the Institute for Historical Review, the largest colelction of Holocaust denial material in the world. 5 Posted on 09/27/1999 08:47:24 PDT by JohnGalt [ Reply | To 3 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: jedediah smith This stuff is discussed in a David Icke book I found at Borders, entitled The Biggest Secret. When I saw this article, I thought "Oh gosh, here's confirmation," but then I saw it's just another internet story. That does not mean it's not true, it's just that it would be nice to see something in a mainstream paper. What about the legal opinion itself. Is it on the web anywhere, or is it just on Westlaw and Lexis-Nexis (where it will cost a lot, and it still may not be there if it is a state court opinion). Does anyone have a cite to the opinion anywhere, net or hard copy? 6 Posted on 09/27/1999 08:52:52 PDT by montfort [ Reply | To 2 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: montfort It's a federal opinion, so it should be on Westlaw or Lexis-Nexis, I would think. I couldn't be sure whetehr it was federal while I was posting. 7 Posted on 09/27/1999 08:54:31 PDT by montfort [ Reply | To 6 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: jedediah smith Thank you for this post. At last we get some light on this most heinous of crimes . Making Children sex slaves for crooked politicians, killing their innocence and destroying their minds. These "subjects" all have "controllers." If you dig long enough, the list of "controllers" is breathtaking. It will get close to Bush Sr., the Royals and figures such as Madeleine Notsobright and may even implicate them directly. Look close enough at MkUltra and you get to Sirhan Sirhan and John Hinckly and Jimmie Jones (assasssins?). The Question is who were their controllers? As if we can't quess. These "subjects" or "sleepers" can be programmed to commit incredible violence - shoot up schools and kill themselves. It's all part of the destabilizing plan for global control. And if anyone thinks devil worship and satanic ritualistic killings are not part of this fabric, quess again. Please keep us informed. 8 Posted on 09/27/1999 09:21:37 PDT by rangergrunt [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: montfort Why is it ONLY "true" if it comes from a mainstream media source? I am an Ex-police officer (my choice) and I know of lots of stories that are never reported by the mainstream that are very "true". Yes, you do have to weed through stories, but there are other ways to verify stories without having to rely on mainstream (controlled) media outputs. It really bothers me that so many only believe a story is real or credible if it comes across the AP wire. You do know that many reporters and journalists loose their jobs each year for going ahead with stories that were not chosen by their editors or from the AP. Sounds controlled to me...some Free Press, eh? 9 Posted on 09/27/1999 09:26:42 PDT by josey wales [ Reply | To 6 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: JohnGalt So does that mean this story isn't true? 10 Posted on 09/27/1999 10:02:23 PDT by mancini [ Reply | To 5 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: jedediah smith I'll tell you an interesting bit of minutiae about post-MK Ultra fallout: Terry Lenzner, lawyer, Clintonista, dirtmeister, and P.I., was the chief protector (lawyer) for Sidney Gottleib, the CIA Technical Service's Division's head of the MK Ultra project (Gottleib was the one who personally dosed that guy who flew out of a 10th-story hospital and died). Lenzner is also a major POTUS protector. See? The protectors of Clinton are sometimes also the protectors of the Dark Side. (And, no, I'm not making it up) 11 Posted on 09/27/1999 10:06:58 PDT by gaijin [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: mancini Perhaps it meets your standards of credibility, but not mine. 12 Posted on 09/27/1999 10:08:21 PDT by JohnGalt [ Reply | To 10 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: jedediah smith Wow, thanks for the post, Jedediah. Another mind-control victim breaks the surface. It is scary that this kind of domestic terrorism exists. Most people are afraid of the more overt forms of terrorism, but this . . . this is so nefarious and insidious. God help these people and put them in touch with people who will believe them and fight for them. Especially for the young ones that are taken, it is indescribably sad. 13 Posted on 09/27/1999 10:09:09 PDT by mancini [ Reply | To 2 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: rangergrunt Implicate them directly? Never! 14 Posted on 09/27/1999 10:12:02 PDT by mancini [ Reply | To 8 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: mancini You once mentioned "Tranceformation of America." The allegations of these mind control victims seem unbelievable on paper, but video shows a different side. I don't know if you've seen O'Brien and Phillips' tape or any others, but you can look at these subjects and tell they don't look normal. At times they stare into space like unblinking robots. Also, see Brice Taylor's video of a Chicago TV interview of herself, ex-CIA agent Gene Tatum, ex-FBI agent Ted Gunderson, and another mind control subject Barbara Hartwell ($19.95 PPD from Brice Taylor Trust, P.O. Box 655, Landrum, S.C. 29356). 15 Posted on 09/27/1999 10:15:06 PDT by jedediah smith [ Reply | To 10 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: JohnGalt So are you saying you don't believe in the mind-control aspect of it or that this ruling actually occurred? If you don't believe in mind control, maybe a little digging into the subject would be a good idea. These people are out there. 16 Posted on 09/27/1999 10:15:12 PDT by mancini [ Reply | To 12 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: jedediah smith I bet seeing these people move and speak definitely adds another dimension. I know Phillips and O'Brien do speaking tours (don't make much at all according to Phillips). Some don't think O'Brien's story has much credibility; I don't know enough to make that judgment. But we can safely say that MK Ultra exists and that there are victims whose stories are similar. Thanks for the information! 17 Posted on 09/27/1999 10:21:02 PDT by mancini [ Reply | To 15 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: jedediah smith DAMN!! Thanks for this info Jed. DAMN! 18 Posted on 09/27/1999 10:32:02 PDT by HEAVYD [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: mancini Supposedly Phillips is deprogramming other victims besides O'Brien. One researcher offered a word of caution: Phillips said he is giving both sides, i.e. victims and programmers, the information the subjects reveal during deprogramming. Phillips said that is the only way he can avoid being killed. If this is all true, I'm not sure his motives are as pure as would appear. 19 Posted on 09/27/1999 10:41:42 PDT by jedediah smith [ Reply | To 16 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: jedediah smith D.C. Hammond's Greenbaum speech, which explains how the programming is done, and how it is broken. I'll check back in from time to time with further links. 20 Posted on 09/27/1999 11:56:18 PDT by Bondhue [ Reply | To 19 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: mancini I had the pleasure yesterday at the Y2K Expo in Smyrna Tennessee of having a good conversation with Kurt Billings, an expert on our governments mind control projects, biochip implants, and the contrail controversy. This guy knows his stuff, and I find him totally credible. I obtained his one hour tape on these subjects, and he's got tons of documented evidence on MKUltra, MKDelta, Artichoke, etc. He has a website, www.psychops.com. Check it out! 21 Posted on 09/27/1999 12:10:49 PDT by babylonian [ Reply | To 17 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: babylonian Great, thanks for the link! 22 Posted on 09/27/1999 12:22:08 PDT by mancini [ Reply | To 21 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: jedediah smith >From Gazette Online, Ceder Rapids Iowa: D.M. police to look into Gosch lead Posted February 8, 1999 By The Associated Press WEST DES MOINES -- Authorities are skeptical about a West Des Moines woman's statements that she met with her long-missing son two years ago, but they will follow up on her claims. Noreen Gosch testified Friday in federal court in Lincoln, Neb., that her son Johnny visited her in her West Des Moines apartment in March 1997. It was the first time she has publicly mentioned such an encounter. Johnny Gosch was 12 when he vanished without a trace Sept. 5, 1982. His wagon was found two blocks from home, filled with copies of the Des Moines Sunday Register he was to deliver. The report of her comments prompted West Des Moines police Capt. Bob Rushing to say that he would have an investigator visit with her today. "In the past she told us something similar to this and then chose to recant it," said Rushing, who has been involved with the investigation since it began. Polk County Attorney John Sarcone said that if Noreen Gosch said she saw her son, he couldn't say anything different. "I'm not going to doubt her," Sarcone said. "I don't think that woman would get up and lie before a federal judge . . . especially about something this serious that involves her son." Noreen Gosch said that during the 90-minute meeting, her son, accompanied by another man he refused to identify, provided names and other information concerning a child-sex and pornography ring that abducted him. Gosch said she has interviewed 35 victims. Gosch was in Lincoln to testify in a civil case against Lawrence King Jr. King, who is in federal prison, has not responded to a suit filed by Paul Bonacci of Omaha in which Bonacci claims he was a victim of sexual abuse from King. U.S. District Judge Warren Urbom has entered a default judgment against King. 23 Posted on 09/27/1999 12:25:10 PDT by chinche [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: JohnGalt Do you deny this story? [Is it in your job description?] 24 Posted on 09/27/1999 13:58:27 PDT by metalbird1 [ Reply | To 5 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: rubbertramp See post 19. 25 Posted on 09/27/1999 14:03:40 PDT by metalbird1 [ Reply | To 20 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: Bondhue + rubbertramp A year or so ago I contacted Dr. Hammond. I obtained his e-mail because he was listed on university staff. In his speech he stated nothing would deter him from shining a light on this induced multiple personality disorder, to the uproarious applause of the crowd of his professional peers. Such was not the case when I contacted him. He said he no longer had an interest in it, hadn't in several years, and didn't want to discuss it. Go figure. 26 Posted on 09/27/1999 14:15:38 PDT by metalbird1 [ Reply | To 20 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: jedediah smith Thanks for the heads up. I know the post's author, Uri Dowbenko. He's an honest guy. He proffered to me some time back that what we are experiencing is as much a spiritual war as anything else. I agree completely with him and would add, the way to control the human spirit is by way of controlling the mind. If the same Lawrence King sounds familiar to anyone, it should. If my memory is serving me correctly, he sang at one of the GOP conventions. It is correct exposure of this would blow open the horrors in the closets of both parties-- even to events of the moment concerning the ongoing presidential campaigning. What was not stated in this piece, and I understand it was not intended to cover the full realm of induced multiple personality disorder as it was about the court decision, is this: besides the programmers using drugs, hyopnosis, and electroshocks, what is also used is a combination of a variety of other physical, psychological, and sexual abuse tortures--and often begin in infancy. You mentioned not being fully clear on where some of these deprogrammers are coming from. You may or may not be familiar with the term, 'net catcher.' It is a person who arrives on the scene as a salvation to someone who is coming out of programming [but actually serves as a control agent]. This can come about from: faulty programming; the will of the mind; or a physical trauma, such as in the case of Brice Taylor where she received injuries from an auto accident. 27 Posted on 09/27/1999 14:40:55 PDT by metalbird1 [ Reply | To 19 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: metalbird1 Make that, If the same name Lawrence King sounds familiar... 28 Posted on 09/27/1999 14:43:43 PDT by metalbird1 [ Reply | To 27 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: jedediah smith I had the pleasure of meeting Mr. DeCamp (the attorney) in the mid '70's, when he was a State Senator from Neleigh, NE. This was before his anti-child pornography crusading began. That crusade has a bit of personal history for him. When he was running for governor of Nebraska, trumped-up charges of child sexual abuse were brought against him, simply because, being married to a Vietnamese woman, the family (including his two young daughters) indulged in the centuries-old Oriental tradition of communal family bathing. This experience with the legal system got him involved in uncovering real sexual abusers and in the process he has brought down many rich and/or famous Nebraskans who were involved in this huge missing children, child prostitute, child pornography ring. Among these were local celebrity and film critic Pete Citron, and the owner of Peony Park (an Omaha amusement park) whose name escapes me at the moment. More recently I attended one of his lectures on his investigations -- fascinating, horrifying, well-documented, and now being proven in court. BTW Federal Judge Urbom is an interesting character in his own right -- I haven't always agreed with him, but I don't think there's any doubting his integrity. 29 Posted on 09/27/1999 15:05:34 PDT by TheHeterodoxConservative [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: metalbird1 DeCamp worked with assassinated former CIA chief William Colby (you remember him--the guy who decided to leave his evening meal untouched and his computer on, so he could go canoeing barefoot, but still wearing a business suit and tie, but no life preserver, during a violent thunderstorm--that Colby) on Operation Phoenix in Vietnam. DeCamp got information on Monarch and MKUltra from Colby, who warned him to stay away from this stuff. 30 Posted on 09/27/1999 15:14:00 PDT by roughrider [ Reply | To 28 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: roughrider Yep. I didn't read DeCamp's book, but did read some of his comments about remarks Colby made to him about warning him away from the subject in a piece written by DeCamp. The CIA infrastructure--in particular the operations side--didn't care much for Colby, starting with they felt he talked too much in testimony before Congress. But Sherman Skolnick says Colby's demise might have been moreso related to Colby having secret meetings with loyalist flag officers discussing militarily arresting Clinton for treason. Skolnick also says a number of those officers as well met untimely deaths, including some in an air crash in Alabama, and another [cause unknown to me] who commanded the Alaskan military district. 31 Posted on 09/27/1999 15:42:27 PDT by metalbird1 [ Reply | To 30 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: TheHeterodoxConservative Since you have some familiarity with Nebraska, I thought I'd run this past you. Several years ago (2-3) I was told there were several reasons why Nebraska seemed to be something of a focal point for mindkontrol abuse of children. One was that Boys Town [and correct me if this is not on point, that there is a girls' version there as well] is located there; and two, Offutt AFB is located there, which is a direct NATO link--and was suggested to me might be being used to linking this child abuse operation with Europe. 32 Posted on 09/27/1999 15:58:41 PDT by metalbird1 [ Reply | To 29 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: TheHeterodoxConservative Since you have some familiarity with Nebraska, I thought I'd run this past you. Several years ago (2-3) I was told there were several reasons why Nebraska seemed to be something of a focal point for mindkontrol abuse of children. One was that Boys Town [and correct me if this is not on point, that there is a girls' version there as well] is located there; and two, Offutt AFB is located there, which is a direct NATO link--and was suggested to me might be being used to linking this child abuse operation with Europe. 33 Posted on 09/27/1999 15:59:35 PDT by metalbird1 [ Reply | To 29 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: metalbird1 Do you suppose the Jon Benet Ramsey case is this type of thing? PS can't e-mail you because I don't know your e-mail. 34 Posted on 09/27/1999 16:03:48 PDT by rubbertramp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [ Reply | To 30 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: rubbertramp JonBenet Ramsey: Savagery and Sexual Trauma. I thought you had found it; at least you said as much before. 35 Posted on 09/27/1999 16:23:33 PDT by metalbird1 [ Reply | To 34 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: metalbird1 I wish I had followed this story more closely. I recall DeCamp talking about a farm near Bellevue, which is where Offutt is. Strategic Air Command certainly has facilities for anything like that they'd want. I had a cousin who took us on a declassified tour; he wasn't into any of the spy stuff, just a weather guy, but his offices were on about the 5th floor -- below ground. We always kidded him about how he could tell what the weather was like from down there.... Whether or not Offutt or SAC is being used, the simple fact that there are a lot of bigwigs with various kinds of diplomatic immunity and clearances flying back and forth to Europe would certainly facilitate trade in mind-controlled children, pornography, drugs, you name it. That would certainly be one logical trafficking point; you're right. As to Boys' Town (and, yes, there are girls there, too) being used; I don't think it's the kind of clearing/warehouse for runaways that it was when I was a kid; but there's a passel of behavior experts, child psychologists and the like there, since there's a lot of troubled youths there. I'd hate to think that Father Flannigan's life's work would be involved in those kind of dealings, but who knows? 36 Posted on 09/27/1999 16:29:09 PDT by TheHeterodoxConservative [ Reply | To 33 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: jedediah smith to self bookmark 37 Posted on 09/27/1999 16:29:15 PDT by Scrambler Bob [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: metalbird1 So that means you got my e-mail. 38 Posted on 09/27/1999 16:41:08 PDT by rubbertramp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [ Reply | To 35 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: TheHeterodoxConservative What would you have me tell you next, that the Boy Scouts park CIA operatives at their headquarters in between asssignments? 39 Posted on 09/27/1999 16:47:53 PDT by metalbird1 [ Reply | To 36 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: jedediah smith If there were ever a reason for eternal damnation, this would be it. To think of the beautiful wonderful children robbed of their spirit, soul, and mind. To be desecrated and forced to perform vile acts with pure evil flowing through their once innocent bodies. What kind of government would not only allow but be ultimately the chief perpertrator of these heinous crimes? All the while acting out a script which is written to give them some sort of semblance of keeping these very things from happening. Outragious. On a similar note, how many people have looked into the fact that the father of Eric Harris of the Columbine HS massacre was tied to MK-Ultra? How he was in the Air Force and was stationed at Platsburg, NY, reportedly a center for this kind of thing? Or how the chief FBI investigator looking into Columbine is the father of the boy who shot the video of Harris and Kliebold (sp?) shooting up the school in a mock video the year before? 40 Posted on 09/27/1999 17:32:46 PDT by FormerLurker [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: metalbird1 Supposedly Mark Phillips, the netcatcher, while deprogramming these subjects is also removing or blocking all their memories of Henry Kissinger. And also discrediting the subjects afterward. I suspect he also plants false memories, such as to implicate Reagan (though he was no choirboy, either). Speaking of Reagan, you might appreciate this story I heard from a reliable source. Supposedly, before the 1980 campaign, Reagan said publicly that he would never accept George Bush as a running mate. Then two days later he announced that Bush would be his VP candidate. Jerry Falwell was backing Reagan and asked him why the sudden turnaround. Reagan said, "Nancy and I just experienced the worst two days of our lives, and I don't want to say any more." (Not an exact quote). BTW, according to DeCamp, Larry King sang at two Republican national conventions in the '80s. 41 Posted on 09/28/1999 05:31:28 PDT by jedediah smith [ Reply | To 27 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: jedediah smith Just as a necessary clarification---so there's zero confusion---the Larry [Lawrence] King you mention (the same person as in the posted article above) is NOT the Larry King talk show host. They are two different people. Without doubt, I know you know. 42 Posted on 09/28/1999 09:47:35 PDT by metalbird1 [ Reply | To 41 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: sal FYI 43 Posted on 09/28/1999 09:49:15 PDT by metalbird1 [ Reply | To 42 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: jedediah smith BUMP 44 Posted on 09/28/1999 15:15:41 PDT by FormerLurker [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: jedediah smith Does this case relate directly to the FBI testimony that brought it into the WH? Specifically one revered leader. If so, do you have referance to that cite? 45 Posted on 09/28/1999 15:35:05 PDT by NDCORUP [ Reply | To 15 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: rubbertramp Here's a book review that may give some insight to the skeptical --- GP-0030---PSYCHIC DICTATORSHIP IN THE U.S.A.---Alex Constantine--220 P.- 1995 - $15.00 This book is sure to shatter the casual reader's most comfortable delusions. Bombing minds rather than bodies is the warfare of the new millennium. Alex Constantine's explosive book uncovers the terrifying extent of electromagnetic and bio-telemetric mind control experimentation on involuntary human subjects in America today. Funded under the euphemism of "Non-Lethal technology", the Pentagon has developed the ability to transmit voices and inflict pain, madness, and even death at the push of a button. Hard to believe ? Believe it ! Official sources have publicly admitted to the existence of such technology. Psychic Dictatorship tracks the use of Cults by intelligence organization as "cover" for arms sales, mind control, and even child abuse to create assassins with multiple personality syndrome. The late actor River Phoenix, was the most conspicuous victim of the "Children of God" cult, which preached sex between adults and children while collaborating with South American Dictators. Psychic Dictatorship's wide ranging contents veer from the esoteric to the everyday. A stunning chapter investigates the history and effects of the artificial sweetener Nutrasweet, and it's role in the dumbing of America. Alex Constantine is the Author of "Blood, Carnage and Agent Provacatuer" (About the L.A. riots) and a book about the role of Non-Lethal technology as used in the OJ. Simpson case. 46 Posted on 09/28/1999 16:35:37 PDT by NDCORUP [ Reply | To 34 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: NDCORUP Hey, bud. Here's my contribution for today. This will make more sense on this thread than on the other I just posted it to. Thanks for the help in spreading the word. Thanks also to dawnal, who I haven't seen around here much lately. link King's partner, Craig Spence, was identified by the *Washington Times*, 29 June 1989, as having taken a group of homosexual prostitutes on a tour of the White House, and having among his clients "key officials of the Reagan and Bush administrations, military officers, congressional aides, and U.S. and foreign business men with close ties to Washington's political elite"; the newspaper also reported that some of the call boys were suspected of being agents of Soviet espionage. Before Spence could be forced to testify, he was found dead in a Boston hotel, a "suicide." The brother of Alisha, the girl who would not retract her testimony, was arrested on a minor charge and found hanged in his unlocked cell in the jail, leaving a "suicide note" that was not in his handwriting. The brother of another victim supposedly blew his brains out while playing Russian Roulette. One of King's lover boys was suspected of intending to give evidence; he committed "suicide," and his close associate died when he "fell" out of the window of a hotel. A man who organized some of King's homosexual parties committed "suicide." A Special Investigator, Gary Caradori, who had accumulated a vast amount of evidence about Larry King's use of captive children, was killed, together with his young son, when his small airplane exploded in mid-air, and his files were promptly seized and sequestered by the Federal Bureau of Intimidation. The woman who first called attention to the enforced prostitution of children in a foster home was killed in an "automobile accident." You see, your rulers are fairly thorough in covering up their spoor. 47 Posted on 09/28/1999 21:54:03 PDT by bondhue1 [ Reply | To 46 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: bondhue1 I wonder how many folks realize that the evil one goes after the children? 48 Posted on 09/29/1999 04:06:44 PDT by NDCORUP [ Reply | To 47 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: NDCORUP Thanks for the tip...will read. This administration's pretense at being for the children is appalling. 49 Posted on 09/29/1999 04:13:06 PDT by rubbertramp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [ Reply | To 48 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: metalbird1 Metal, You are such a coy mister.;o) 50 Posted on 09/29/1999 04:14:38 PDT by rubbertramp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: NDCORUP Yes, Bonacci was abused by Larry King, who was involved in the Franklin Credit Union financial fraud case in Omaha, Neb. Bonacci and other children were taken to Washington for use at parties by politicians. Some of them identified our honorable former VP and Pres. Bush as being there as well. 51 Posted on 09/29/1999 07:03:39 PDT by jedediah smith [ Reply | To 45 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: rubbertramp Their use of the phrase "for the children," must be some kind of satanic inside joke. If this doesn't wake America up, nothing will. 52 Posted on 09/29/1999 07:10:08 PDT by jedediah smith [ Reply | To 49 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: jedediah smith A related thread.... Child Abuse at the Presidio 53 Posted on 09/29/1999 07:10:54 PDT by FormerLurker [ Reply | To 51 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: jedediah smith At one time the statements of the FBI agent that was involved in tracking this were on the Web. I was hoping someone could snag them again to give some more verification, but my searches haven't turned them up again. He specifically mentioned the VP office as being involved. 54 Posted on 09/29/1999 07:43:58 PDT by NDCORUP [ Reply | To 51 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: rubbertramp Me, coy? Yes and no. 55 Posted on 09/29/1999 08:00:44 PDT by metalbird1 [ Reply | To 50 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: NDCORUP Sorry, I didn't quite understand your question. You may be referring to ex-FBI agent Ted Gunderson, who was involved in this case. I just came across his work myself, so I don't have any websites to share. He was an FBI agent for 27 years, retiring as head of the LA office. Apparently he has devoted his life to researching these satanic ritual abuse crimes. He also is involved in the Jeffrey McDonald case, the Green Beret who was accused of murdering his family in Ft. Bragg, N.C. in 1970. Gunderson believes he has found the real murderer, a woman who fulfilled her initiation into a satanic cult by murdering McDonald's family. He says there was a satanic cult involved in drug smuggling with the government along the east coast, hiding the drugs in soldiers' bodies during the Vietnam War. I have heard people attack Gunderson's credibility, and I posted a pretty far-out interview of his (re: Foster's murder) here which was yanked. But he seems credible to me. As far as the Franklin case is concerned, he said it led to Bush Sr., so I'm sure he's stepping on the wrong toes. 56 Posted on 09/29/1999 08:09:38 PDT by jedediah smith [ Reply | To 54 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: jedediah smith Gunderson is the name that rings a bell, Thanks. Re; The mention of Anton LaVey, A law enforcement family member of mine told me some years back about meeting LaVey in an investigation of some child murders in St.Louis. Several years later he had a chance encounter with LaVey again and was a little un-nerved by LaVey calling him by his first and last name. LaVey, evidently, was an example of an "aura" of evil when you were near him. I've met some like that myself. Slick was one of them. 57 Posted on 09/29/1999 10:52:02 PDT by NDCORUP [ Reply | To 56 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: metalbird1 The air crash taking the lives of the high-ranking officers involved a military Lear jet that crashed in Alabama the night before the OKC Bombing, correct? 58 Posted on 09/29/1999 16:50:04 PDT by roughrider [ Reply | To 31 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: roughrider + all I cannot say for certain, but thought the Alabama plane crash had occurred more recently. I was not able to pull up Skolnick's site, www.skolnicksreport.com. In any event, here is a list of persons now deceased Skolnick states were intending on arresting Clinton for treason: Former CIA Director William Colby. His death has been discussed at length here. Chief of Naval Operations Admiral Jeremy "Michael" Boorda, purportedly a suicide yet his death records were heavily blacked out in a Freedom of Information Act request. Death of Lt. General David McCloud. Death of Vice Admiral Donald Engen, Ret. 59 Posted on 09/29/1999 17:48:12 PDT by metalbird1 [ Reply | To 58 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: metalbird1 According to DeCamp in his book, Colby said he supported Clinton. Though Colby could be among the many people who have changed their opinion of Clinton with the passage of time, I would think he would have known all along how corrupt he really was. If indeed he did a 180 and decided to get Clinton, he must have really been out of the loop initially. 60 Posted on 09/29/1999 18:22:11 PDT by jedediah smith [ Reply | To 59 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: jedediah smith Mr. Peepers [Colby] was a funny bird. While reportedly involved in Operation Phoenix in Vietnam garnered the disdain [to put it mildly] of his CIA peers in their view of talking too much before Congress. I read that a mixed bag of conscience. 61 Posted on 09/29/1999 18:31:24 PDT by metalbird1 [ Reply | To 60 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: metalbird1 Thanks again for the heads up. This one actually cheered me up for two reasons: some justice for the innocent victims (not enough!) and this fact of an actual, verifiable court case makes it easier to present to sheeple. Of course, there's the old question, 'why didn't I hear this on TV?', but I use that as an opportunity to further discredit TV 'news'. When you can tell them, "You can check it for yourself!", it's fairly effective. 62 Posted on 09/30/1999 00:28:28 PDT by Sal [ Reply | To 43 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: metalbird1 BTW, Media Bypass--any opinion on it. They've exposed so much, but then again there's good 'ole MPD Lawrence Myers who lied under oath in the frame job on Hayes. MP followed up on that case for a while and reamed Myers pretty good, but then they are printing articles BY him again. I didn't read the article, but I saw it in a copy for sale at a gun show. I asked the vendor who acknowledged the inconsistency, but he didn't know what was going on. 63 Posted on 09/30/1999 00:33:00 PDT by Sal [ Reply | To 61 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: Slym Re: Colby, see posts 58, 59, 61. I think there are also some interesting things along the way in this thread. 64 Posted on 09/30/1999 01:00:11 PDT by metalbird1 [ Reply | To 61 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: Sal While I hadn't kept up on it, I thought he'd been tossed out on his ear as a soppen stooge in a purge, only, like you, to see his return and thought, what gives? That be all I knew on the matter. 65 Posted on 09/30/1999 01:08:01 PDT by metalbird1 [ Reply | To 63 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: roughrider Re: the Alexander City, Alabama plane crash: Military Brass Die in Crash. It occurred April 17, 1995, two days before OKC. Your point is taken, which was the same as Skolnick's all along [which is who I had originally heard it from]; it's just I didn't recollect him tying it into OKC, so the date was nebulous to me. 66 Posted on 10/03/1999 05:14:14 PDT by metalbird1 [ Reply | To 58 | Top | Last ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: Sal See link at post 66 for much on Lawrence Myers and Media Bypass magazine--even some tie-ins to OKC! 67 Posted on 10/03/1999 05:18:00 PDT by metalbird1 [ Reply | To 63 | Top | Last ] [ Top | Last | Latest Posts | Latest Articles | Self Search | Add Bookmark | P ost | Abuse | Help! ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ FreeRepublic , LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794 Forum Version 2.0a Copyright © 1999 Free Republic, LLC ----- Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. 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