[CTRL] AIDS/HIV THE BIG SECRET

2001-06-03 Thread lloyd
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] AIDS/HIV THE BIG SECRET Date: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 4:46 PM AIDS/HIV THE BIG SECRET In africa - the dead are piling up - AIDS has smitten an entire continent - so whats the source of this problem - it isn't as though all of africa had gone gay. We know

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2001-06-01 Thread YnrChyldzWyld
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 31 May 2001, Steve Wingate wrote: And even in the highly unlikely case of a few live viruses being in the water, how do the propose that the virus enter the bloodstream of the body. (Probably from the broken glass that they will claim might be found in the pool. -- No,

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2001-05-31 Thread MIKE SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] AIDS/HIV THE BIG SECRET [snip] Even if HIV does cause AIDS (which is possible, sort of), if it were spread by mosquitoes

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2001-05-31 Thread YnrChyldzWyld
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 30 May 2001, Andrew Hennessey wrote: This latter is not true. HIV is actually pretty fragile, and breaks down rapidly when exposed to air; it only survives under anerobic conditions. ok - but we know that HIV can be transmitted by addicts needles and that conditions

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2001-05-31 Thread YnrChyldzWyld
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 30 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...fragile... NOT TRUE!!! It can stay alive on an open surface (like the counter in a dentist office) for many hours. And you can provide the proof from a respected medical source for this allegation? June Check out

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2001-05-31 Thread YnrChyldzWyld
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 30 May 2001, MIKE SPITZER wrote: Chlorinated water kills HIV in a minute or two, however, in the splash zone (wet area immediately adjacent to the edge)of hot tubs and pools, free and residual chlorine quick;y complexes with organics, thus NOT available for water

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2001-05-31 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Chlorinated water kills HIV in a minute or two, however, in the splash zone (wet area immediately adjacent to the edge)of hot tubs and pools, free and residual chlorine quick;y complexes with organics, thus NOT available for water disinfection...thus, from what I've been led to

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2001-05-31 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Could I have misunderstood all that education, and what I learned in my subsequent career dealing with the world's top basic and applied scientific researchers?Answer: In this case, apparently you have. Proper method, in this case, is to work from the epidemiology.

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2001-05-31 Thread Andrew Hennessey
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: YnrChyldzWyld [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] AIDS/HIV THE BIG SECRET -Caveat Lector- On Wed, 30 May 2001, MIKE SPITZER wrote: Chlorinated water kills HIV in a minute or two

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2001-05-31 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- not enough studies have been done to prove one way or another whether insects are a possible vector... It's been twenty years. Where's the data? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list.

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2001-05-31 Thread YnrChyldzWyld
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 31 May 2001, Andrew Hennessey wrote: I have to agree with mike - and saying that water is only an aerobic medium is not scientific in this case June. Nor is claiming that HIV can survive in a puddle by the side a swimming pool... June Check out Alternative Kite radio:

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2001-05-31 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- On 31 May 01, at 20:24, YnrChyldzWyld wrote: Nor is claiming that HIV can survive in a puddle by the side a swimming pool... And even in the highly unlikely case of a few live viruses being in the water, how do the propose that the virus enter the bloodstream of the body.

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2001-05-30 Thread YnrChyldzWyld
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 30 May 2001, Andrew Hennessey wrote: We know that we can catch AIDS from old needles - that it is rugged enough to survive in old blood in external conditions on our streets - This latter is not true. HIV is actually pretty fragile, and breaks down rapidly when exposed

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2001-05-30 Thread Andrew Hennessey
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 30 May 2001, Andrew Hennessey wrote: We know that we can catch AIDS from old needles - that it is rugged enough to survive in old blood in external conditions on our streets - This latter is not true. HIV is actually pretty fragile, and breaks down rapidly when

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2001-05-30 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- ok - but we know that HIV can be transmitted by addicts needles and that conditions inside bugs are pretty much anaerobic, which is even more cosy for the HIV virus than if it had been on a needle. We “know” only what we have been told. There is even doubt that HIV causes

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2001-05-30 Thread lassey
-Caveat Lector- ...fragile... NOT TRUE!!! It can stay alive on an open surface (like the counter in a dentist office) for many hours. On Wed, 30 May 2001 09:18:48 -0400 YnrChyldzWyld [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- On Wed, 30 May 2001, Andrew Hennessey wrote: We know that

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2001-05-30 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- NOT TRUE!!! It can stay alive on an open surface (like the counter in a dentist office) for many hours. And the proof of this is? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list.

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2001-05-30 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- On 30 May 01, at 19:21, Nessie wrote: And the proof of this is? Rush. :) ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list.

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2001-05-30 Thread MIKE SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] AIDS/HIV THE BIG SECRET -Caveat Lector- NOT TRUE!!! It can stay alive on an open surface (like the counter in a dentist office

[CTRL] AIDS/HIV THE BIG SECRET

2001-05-29 Thread Andrew Hennessey
AIDS/HIV THE BIG SECRET In africa - the dead are piling up - AIDS has smitten an entire continent - so whats the source of this problem - it isn't as though all of africa had gone gay. We know that we can catch AIDS from old needles - that it is rugged enough to survive in old blood in