Re: [CTRL] CFTM....Cleland's Viet Nam injuries...all veterans should read.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/22/2004 2:36:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What we have always suspected...Prudy puts herself in the position of God. It's OK.I do believe Godis compassionate where the mentally ill are concerned. Goddess. Prudy www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CFTM....Cleland's Viet Nam injuries...all veterans should read.
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- What we have always suspected...Prudy puts herself in the position of God. It's OK.I do believe Godis compassionate where the mentally ill are concerned. From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Prudy LSent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 8:09 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [CTRL] CFTMCleland's "Viet Nam" injuries...all veterans should read. -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/21/2004 8:41:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thirty years ago, Bush was granted an honorable discharge from the NationalGuard which would seem to put the matter to rest. But liberals want proofthat Bush actually deserved his honorable discharge. (Since when did theparty of Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd get so obsessed withhonor?) What kind of people are they who consider only sexual conduct in the matter of honor? For years people have been reasonably sure that Adolph Hitler actually did not have sex at all. If that's someone's version of an honorable individual, then I guess we know where the majority of Conservatives stand. The picture of the a newly deceased standing at Heaven's gate while St. Peter checkshis life's story must go something like this: Saved his family from a fire at age of four, never missed Sunday school or church until serving in combat, defended the United States from axis powers and saved the lives of many of his comrads through acts of bravery, gave generously of both money and time to the poor and afflicted, raised decent and well-behaved children, worked continuously for the good of mankind. At this point St. Peter says, "Oh forget it. He had a wild weekend with a co-worker about fifty years ago. Straight to Hell with him." Well I guess we know what counts. Prudy www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CFTM....Cleland's Viet Nam injuries...all veterans should read.
-Caveat Lector- FORMER Sen. Max Cleland is the Democrats' designated hysteric about George Bush's National Guard service. A triple amputee and Vietnam veteran, Cleland is making the rounds on talk TV, basking in the affection of liberals who have suddenly become jock-sniffers for war veterans, and working himself into a lather about President Bush's military service. Citing such renowned military experts as Molly Ivins, Cleland indignantly demands further investigation into Bush's service with the Texas Air National Guard. Bush's National Guard service is the most thoroughly investigated event since the Kennedy assassination. But the Democrats will accept only two possible conclusions to their baseless accusations: (1) Bush was AWOL, or (2) the matter needs further investigation. Thirty years ago, Bush was granted an honorable discharge from the National Guard which would seem to put the matter to rest. But liberals want proof that Bush actually deserved his honorable discharge. (Since when did the party of Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd get so obsessed with honor?) On Hardball Monday night, Cleland demanded to see Bush's pay stubs for the disputed period of time, May 1972 to May 1973. If he was getting paid for his weekend warrior work, Cleland said, he should have some pay stubs to show it. The next day, the White House produced the pay stubs. This confirmed what has been confirmed 1 million times before: After taking the summer off, Bush reported for duty nine times between Nov. 29, 1972, and May 24, 1973 -- more than enough times to fulfill his Guard duties. (And nine times more than Bill Clinton, Barney Frank or Chuck Schumer did during the same period.) All this has been reported -- with documentation -- many times by many news organizations. George magazine had Bush's National Guard records 3 1/2 years ago. All available evidence keeps confirming Bush's honorable service with the Guard, which leads liberals to conclude ... further investigation is needed! No evidence will ever be enough evidence. That Bush skipped out on his National Guard service is one of liberals' many nondisprovable beliefs, like global warming. Cleland also expressed outrage that Bush left the National Guard nine months early in 1973 to go to Harvard Business School. On Hardball, Cleland testily remarked: I just know a whole lot of veterans who would have loved to have worked things out with the military and adjusted their tour of duty. (Cleland already knows one -- Al Gore!) When Bush left the National Guard in 1973 to go to business school, the war was over. It might as well have been 1986. Presidents Kennedy and Johnson had already lost the war, and President Nixon had ended it with the Paris peace accords in January. If Bush had demanded active combat, there was no war to send him to. To put this in perspective, by 1973, John Kerry had already accused American soldiers of committing war crimes in Vietnam, thrown someone else's medals to the ground in an anti-war demonstration, and married his first heiress. Bill Clinton had just finished three years of law school and was about to embark upon a political career -- which would include campaign events with Max Cleland. Moreover, if we're going to start delving into exactly who did what back then, maybe Max Cleland should stop allowing Democrats to portray him as a war hero who lost his limbs taking enemy fire on the battlefields of Vietnam. Cleland lost three limbs in an accident during a routine noncombat mission where he was about to drink beer with friends. He saw a grenade on the ground and picked it up. He could have done that at Fort Dix. In fact, Cleland could have dropped a grenade on his foot as a National Guardsman - or what Cleland sneeringly calls weekend warriors. Luckily for Cleland's political career and current pomposity about Bush, he happened to do it while in Vietnam. There is more than a whiff of dishonesty in how Cleland is presented to the American people. Terry McAuliffe goes around saying, Max Cleland, a triple amputee who left three limbs on the battlefield of Vietnam, was thrown out of office because Republicans had the audacity to call Max Cleland unpatriotic. Mr. Cleland, a word of advice: When a slimy weasel like Terry McAuliffe is vouching for your combat record, it's time to sound retreat on that subject. Needless to say, no one ever challenged Cleland's patriotism. His performance in the Senate was the issue, which should not have come as a bolt out of the blue inasmuch as he was running for re-election to the Senate. Sen. Cleland had refused to vote for the Homeland Security bill unless it was chock-full of pro-union perks that would have jeopardized national security. (OH MY GOD! A HIJACKED PLANE IS HEADED FOR THE WHITE HOUSE! Sorry, I'm on my break. Please call back in two hours.) The good people of Georgia -- who do not need lectures on admiring military service - gave Cleland one pass for being
Re: [CTRL] CFTM....Cleland's Viet Nam injuries...all veterans should read.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/21/2004 8:41:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thirty years ago, Bush was granted an honorable discharge from the NationalGuard which would seem to put the matter to rest. But liberals want proofthat Bush actually deserved his honorable discharge. (Since when did theparty of Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd get so obsessed withhonor?) What kind of people are they who consider only sexual conduct in the matter of honor? For years people have been reasonably sure that Adolph Hitler actually did not have sex at all. If that's someone's version of an honorable individual, then I guess we know where the majority of Conservatives stand. The picture of the a newly deceased standing at Heaven's gate while St. Peter checkshis life's story must go something like this: Saved his family from a fire at age of four, never missed Sunday school or church until serving in combat, defended the United States from axis powers and saved the lives of many of his comrads through acts of bravery, gave generously of both money and time to the poor and afflicted, raised decent and well-behaved children, worked continuously for the good of mankind. At this point St. Peter says, "Oh forget it. He had a wild weekend with a co-worker about fifty years ago. Straight to Hell with him." Well I guess we know what counts. Prudy www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
