Re: [CTRL] Case-Mortality Increases with Smallpox Vaccination
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/23/01 5:35:07 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, but what about the total number of cases? If we were to take this article seriously, then we should still be ravaged with smallpox every year...also, the stuff about the 1840's is totally irrelevant...they used live vaccine back then. Sorry, I just opened this. The current vaccine uses live virus. From what I've read, this is similar to the old type - using a live variation of the cowpox virus. A few sources below: http://www.panix.com/~iayork/Immunology/smallpox.shtml The vaccine for smallpox is also unusual. To immunize against smallpox, people are infected with a live virus, vaccinia. Vaccinia is a poxvirus of unknown origin (it's most closely related to cowpox, but is distinct) which is related to smallpox. That means that if you're immune to vaccinia, you're probably immune to smallpox. There are a couple of reasons why a live vaccinia vaccine is so effective. Firstly, live vaccines tend to be more effective than killed vaccines. A live virus is going to replicate, at least briefly: that means that the antigens are amplified. If you get 1000 vaccinia put into your arm scratch, then in three days - after several rounds of viral replication - there might be 1,000,000,000 viruses there. Secondly, the live virus is more likely to be present in the same physical site as the actual pathogen. The immune system is, to some extent, physically partitioned - lymphocytes prefer to return to the same site over and over. If you stick a killed virus into your arms, it's mostly going to just sit there, and the general systemic immunity may be less effective. In the case of smallpox this might or might not have been critical; in some other cases, such as polio (which first infects the gut) getting local immunity can be very effective. http://38.232.17.254/journals/annals/15oct97/smallpox.htm Regardless of Jenner's other successes, the connection between cowpox and smallpox continued to intrigue him, as his comments to Edward Gardner in 1780 reveal. By 1788, Jenner was convinced of the truth of the popular belief that cowpox protected against the human disease. He drew sketches of a milkmaid's hand that showed the characteristic cowpox marks and showed them to Hunter and other experts (61). By that time, Jenner must have been planning to test his hypothesis by inoculating persons with material from cowpox lesions and was waiting for an opportunity. The moment came in May 1796, when a milkmaid named Sarah Nelmes developed cowpox through contact with a cow. On 14 May, Jenner extracted fluid from a pustule on Nelmes's hand and used it to inoculate a healthy 8-year-old boy named James Phipps through two half-inch incisions on the surface of the arm. Six weeks later, Jenner variolated the child but produced no reaction. He performed the procedure again some months later with the same result (62). - Original Message - From: Samantha L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 2:06 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Case-Mortality Increases with Smallpox Vaccination -Caveat Lector- http://www.mercola.com/1999/sep/26/was_smallpox_vaccine_really_a_great_succe ss .htm Was Smallpox Vaccine Really A Great Success? By Roger Schlafly, PhD The use of vaccines to prevent and eradicate diseases like smallpox is supposedly one of the great successes of modern medicine. The Philippine Islands provide us with the most striking information on record that with much vaccination there is also much smallpox. Since the taking of the islands by the U.S., every attention had been paid to the perfecting of sanitation. But not content with this, their Public Health Service has seen to the thorough systematic vaccination of the population, adding thereto a considerable amount of serum inoculation. An American paper published in 1922 reported The Philippines have experienced three smallpox epidemics since the U.S. took over the Islands, the first in 1905-06, the second in 1907-08, and the third and worst of all in 1918-19. Before 1905 (with no general vaccination) the case-mortality was about 10%. In the 1905-06 epidemic, with vaccination well started, the case-mortality ranged from 25-50%. During the epidemic of 1918-19, with the Philippines supposedly almost universally immunized against smallpox by vaccination, the case-mortality averaged over 65%! These figures can be verified by reference to the Report of the Philippine Health Service. The statements are accompanied by, The mortality is hardly explainable. To anyone but a Philippine Medical Health Commissioner, it is plainly the result of vaccination. The highest percentage of mortality, 65.3%, was in Manila, the most thoroughly vaccinated place in the Islands; the lowest percentage of mortality, 11.4
Re: [CTRL] Case-Mortality Increases with Smallpox Vaccination
-Caveat Lector- http://www.mercola.com/1999/sep/26/was_smallpox_vaccine_really_a_great_success .htm Was Smallpox Vaccine Really A Great Success? By Roger Schlafly, PhD The use of vaccines to prevent and eradicate diseases like smallpox is supposedly one of the great successes of modern medicine. The Philippine Islands provide us with the most striking information on record that with much vaccination there is also much smallpox. Since the taking of the islands by the U.S., every attention had been paid to the perfecting of sanitation. But not content with this, their Public Health Service has seen to the thorough systematic vaccination of the population, adding thereto a considerable amount of serum inoculation. An American paper published in 1922 reported The Philippines have experienced three smallpox epidemics since the U.S. took over the Islands, the first in 1905-06, the second in 1907-08, and the third and worst of all in 1918-19. Before 1905 (with no general vaccination) the case-mortality was about 10%. In the 1905-06 epidemic, with vaccination well started, the case-mortality ranged from 25-50%. During the epidemic of 1918-19, with the Philippines supposedly almost universally immunized against smallpox by vaccination, the case-mortality averaged over 65%! These figures can be verified by reference to the Report of the Philippine Health Service. The statements are accompanied by, The mortality is hardly explainable. To anyone but a Philippine Medical Health Commissioner, it is plainly the result of vaccination. The highest percentage of mortality, 65.3%, was in Manila, the most thoroughly vaccinated place in the Islands; the lowest percentage of mortality, 11.4%, was in Mindanao, where, owing to religious prejudices of the inhabitants, vaccination had not been practiced as much as in most other parts of the Islands. Vaccination had been forced on Mindanao since 1918 in the face of this direct proof that their people were safer without it, and with the result of a smallpox mortality increase to above 25% in 1920. In view of the fact that sanitary engineers had probably done more in Manila to clean up the city and make it healthier than in any other part of the islands, vaccination actually brought on the smallpox epidemic in spite of the sanitary measures taken to promote health. It is certain that over ten million vaccinations for smallpox were performed in the Philippines from 1905 to 1917. In England and Wales, free vaccination was provided for smallpox in 1840, made compulsory in 1853, and in 1867 orders were given to prosecute evaders, therefore, few escaped vaccination. Deaths from smallpox in England and Wales during 1857-59 was recorded at 14,244; in 1863-65, 20,059; and 1870-72, 44,840. Between the 1st and 2nd epidemic, there was only a 7% increase in population with an increase of smallpox deaths by 40.8%. During the 2nd and 3rd epidemic a 9% increase of population with an increase of smallpox deaths of 123% with an ever-multiplying number of vaccinations! Deaths per year from cancer in England and Wales between 1857-72 also began to rapidly increase. Professor of the Athenian Faculty of Medicine, Leon Grigorski said We are ourselves creating the diseases, and we are heading toward general cancerization and mental defectives through encephalitis, by the use of vaccines. Upon limiting access to information the medical-industrial complex is able to maintain its authority mystique. Isolation is a well-known technique of brainwashing. Choices that challenge the position of the authority are limited and often times hidden. Because the intellect learns by comparison, when it is presented with only one point of view or other points of view are denigrated, it loses its capacity to discriminate and ultimately its capacity for fully rational thought. Dr. Joyce Marshall, N.D.,Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory
Re: [CTRL] Case-Mortality Increases with Smallpox Vaccination
-Caveat Lector- Case-Mortality Increases with Smallpox Vaccination Yeah, but what about the total number of cases? If we were to take this article seriously, then we should still be ravaged with smallpox every year...also, the stuff about the 1840's is totally irrelevant...they used live vaccine back then. - Original Message - From: Samantha L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 2:06 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Case-Mortality Increases with Smallpox Vaccination -Caveat Lector- http://www.mercola.com/1999/sep/26/was_smallpox_vaccine_really_a_great_succe ss .htm Was Smallpox Vaccine Really A Great Success? By Roger Schlafly, PhD The use of vaccines to prevent and eradicate diseases like smallpox is supposedly one of the great successes of modern medicine. The Philippine Islands provide us with the most striking information on record that with much vaccination there is also much smallpox. Since the taking of the islands by the U.S., every attention had been paid to the perfecting of sanitation. But not content with this, their Public Health Service has seen to the thorough systematic vaccination of the population, adding thereto a considerable amount of serum inoculation. An American paper published in 1922 reported The Philippines have experienced three smallpox epidemics since the U.S. took over the Islands, the first in 1905-06, the second in 1907-08, and the third and worst of all in 1918-19. Before 1905 (with no general vaccination) the case-mortality was about 10%. In the 1905-06 epidemic, with vaccination well started, the case-mortality ranged from 25-50%. During the epidemic of 1918-19, with the Philippines supposedly almost universally immunized against smallpox by vaccination, the case-mortality averaged over 65%! These figures can be verified by reference to the Report of the Philippine Health Service. The statements are accompanied by, The mortality is hardly explainable. To anyone but a Philippine Medical Health Commissioner, it is plainly the result of vaccination. The highest percentage of mortality, 65.3%, was in Manila, the most thoroughly vaccinated place in the Islands; the lowest percentage of mortality, 11.4%, was in Mindanao, where, owing to religious prejudices of the inhabitants, vaccination had not been practiced as much as in most other parts of the Islands. Vaccination had been forced on Mindanao since 1918 in the face of this direct proof that their people were safer without it, and with the result of a smallpox mortality increase to above 25% in 1920. In view of the fact that sanitary engineers had probably done more in Manila to clean up the city and make it healthier than in any other part of the islands, vaccination actually brought on the smallpox epidemic in spite of the sanitary measures taken to promote health. It is certain that over ten million vaccinations for smallpox were performed in the Philippines from 1905 to 1917. In England and Wales, free vaccination was provided for smallpox in 1840, made compulsory in 1853, and in 1867 orders were given to prosecute evaders, therefore, few escaped vaccination. Deaths from smallpox in England and Wales during 1857-59 was recorded at 14,244; in 1863-65, 20,059; and 1870-72, 44,840. Between the 1st and 2nd epidemic, there was only a 7% increase in population with an increase of smallpox deaths by 40.8%. During the 2nd and 3rd epidemic a 9% increase of population with an increase of smallpox deaths of 123% with an ever-multiplying number of vaccinations! Deaths per year from cancer in England and Wales between 1857-72 also began to rapidly increase. Professor of the Athenian Faculty of Medicine, Leon Grigorski said We are ourselves creating the diseases, and we are heading toward general cancerization and mental defectives through encephalitis, by the use of vaccines. Upon limiting access to information the medical-industrial complex is able to maintain its authority mystique. Isolation is a well-known technique of brainwashing. Choices that challenge the position of the authority are limited and often times hidden. Because the intellect learns by comparison, when it is presented with only one point of view or other points of view are denigrated, it loses its capacity to discriminate and ultimately its capacity for fully rational thought. Dr. Joyce Marshall, N.D.,Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts
