[CTRL] Conspiracy by New Agers against Christians and Jews
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Written by a friend: Where this gets interesting is the UN has recently called for international restrictions on the practice of religion, but only against those religions who will not alter their stance on homosexuality, abortion, euthanasia, and the inerrancy of Scripture. The targets seem to be authentic (or Orthodox) Judaism, evangelical Protestantism and to a far lesser degree, Catholicism. The assumption is that after a perfunctory protest, the Roman Church will accede to the UN demands (and if history is any guide, they will. The Roman church traditionally bows to power in order to maintain its own.) However, the evangelicals and Jews are a tougher nut to crack. This lead a UN spokesperson to say "there is a showdown coming with religion". I have no doubt there is. According to several tracts we found, evangelicals are lumped with Jews for the purposes of these occultically inspired anti-Semites. They base this on two points of evidence. 1) Christians believe themselves grafted into Israel, those who won't define a Christian identity outside of that world view, meaning the Church either replacing Israel or the Church as independent of Israel are "Jews in spirit" and equally "old age" and therefore an impediment to the ascension of Mankind. 2) The Torah defines a righteous gentile as being a co-inheritor of the promises of G-d in the world to come. Indeed our Sages have always taught that a gentile whodutifully and strenouslyupholds the Noahide Laws (of Basic Morality) not only have a share in the World to Come but also can achieve a very high and holy spiritual level, comparable to the great Tzaddikim (colloq. saints, lit. extremely righteous ones)of Israel. On the basis of both these positions, the occultists claim that the non-anti-Jewish (philo-semitic?) gentile is as great a threat as an observant Jew. Ms. Bailey goes on to say, any Jew who refuses to surrender his faith, his heritage and his allegience to Torah is a threat and must either be "re-educated" or eliminated from the body social. This is, essentially, Nazism in a nutshell. Hitler placed a very high premium on the destruction of the observant Jewish communities in Poland and Russia. When asked by Himmler why he ignored the Jews of Western Europe for so long, Hitler answered "If we don't kill them, they will still disappear in short order, the Eastern Jew is the greater threat". The murderous hostility towards Christians is no less pronounced. The UN has studiously ignored the massacre of Christians in Sudan by the Islamist government there. Bush has even removed Sudan from the State Dept. terror list, this despite the fact that over 2,000,000 Christians have been murdered there in the past 10 years and another 3,000,000 have been enslaved, raped or tortured. The Palestinian Authority continues its organized persecution of Christians. Of the over 100 churches in Nazereth, only 1 remains open. Of the over 100 churches in Bethlehem, none have remained undesecrated and only the Church of the Nativity remains open. Prior to Arafat's takeover, about 15% of the population of Judea was Christian, today that number is closer to 2%. Lebanon once enjoyed a Christian majority, today, driven out by the Syrians, less than 10% of Lebanon's population is Christian. Nevertheless, the US and UN continue to support the PA, Syria and the Saudi regime which is the primary funding source for this violence against Christians. In Kosovo, under NATO protection, Islamic guerillas terrorize the Orthodox Christian Kosovar majority and have destroyed hundreds of churches, some over 1000 years old. Synagouges that predate Islam have also been looted and burned. Not a word out of the EU, the US or the UN... The UN aided and abetted Hizb'Allah's kidnap and murder of Israeli soldiers, refusing to even allow Israel to see the tapes the UN made of the atrocities. The UN turns a blind eye towards Nigerian, Sudanese, Pakistani and Indonesian persecution of the Christian minorities in those nations as well, aiding and abetting the Islamic states that carry out these crimes. Allegedly Christian Europe seeks to reward the Islamic murderers in the hopes of gaining new markets. Aborting the native European population into extinction, they import Islamic workers and within a generation it is likely that France, Belgium, Germany, the Netherlands and Italy will all have Islamic majorities. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major
Re: [CTRL] Conspiracy by New Agers against Christians and Jews
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/18/2003 10:15:54 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ms. Bailey goes on to say, any Jew who refuses to surrender his faith, his heritage and his allegience to Torah is a threat and must either be "re-educated" or eliminated from the body social. This wouldn't be Alice Bailey who died in 1949, would it? I mean you were all over me for posting a Benjamin Freedman speech he gave in what, 1961? So I assume this Bailey character whose full name we're supposed to guess at in your pal's poorly penned screed, is someone else. Right? Bill. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Conspiracy by New Agers against Christians and Jews
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- The difference is I'm not promoting Lucis Trust material as valid.I'm warning people about it.Being better written, it has more staying power than the Freedman rant will ever have.In addition, they are geared to different audiences. Anyone at the UN who took the Freedman piece seriously would be sent back to wash dishes in their home country, but Lucis Trust was located in the UNPlaza in a building that housed embassies. However I can see why you don't run with the more complex group of antisemites. You should ask your controller why they don't move you up. Alice Bailey Djwhal Khul - Esoteric Philosophy - Master Index - ... ... Cosmic Fire, first published in 1925, was the third book jointly Fire ... Glamour withcertain esoteric teaching were first published by Alice A. Bailey, with the ... www.netnews.org/bkindex/c1046/f1496.html - 14k - Cached - Similar pages -Original Message-From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William ShannonSent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:29 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [CTRL] Conspiracy by New Agers against Christians and Jews -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/18/2003 10:15:54 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ms. Bailey goes on to say, any Jew who refuses to surrender his faith, his heritage and his allegience to Torah is a threat and must either be "re-educated" or eliminated from the body social.This wouldn't be Alice Bailey who died in 1949, would it?I mean you were all over me for posting a Benjamin Freedman speech he gave in what, 1961?So I assume this Bailey character whose full name we're supposed to guess at in your pal's poorly penned screed, is someone else. Right?Bill. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Conspiracy by New Agers against Christians and Jews
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/18/2003 11:38:11 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alice Bailey Djwhal Khul - Esoteric Philosophy - Master Index - ... ... Cosmic Fire, first published in 1925, was the third book jointly Fire ... Glamour with certain esoteric teaching were first published by Alice A. Bailey, with the ... Oh, ok. SO It WAS Alice Bailey you were yapping about after all. Hmm...she's been dead how long? 54 years now? And yet a Freedman piece that is still highly relevant today gets a sneering retort from the nameless one. Ok. We know who's spreading propaganda and disinformation and it's the one who refuses like a coward to give her name. The Zuukie-troll. Gotcha. Bill. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
