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Subject: [IMP] Ubiquitous Computing as a Poverty Solution
Does higher education end poverty for those who have the
willingness-motivation to achieve it? If so, ubiquitous computing combined
with this kind of courseware is a remedy.
Z
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Citizens for the "inherent dignity and worth of the human person"
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Subject: [MIT-OpenCourseWare-Discussion] Standardizing College Computing
Courses
POC has discussed with a prof at BCIT who teaches Intro CS, the problem of
standardization. Surprisingly, there is little or no standardization even
between BC colleges and universities.
Why not "anchor" the global system of computing education with an MIT OCW
course which is ALSO EXPLICITLY TAUGHT ONLINE?
Profs from around the world could add units to it as it proceeds if they
think MIT's OCW is lacking in any way.
What we would end up with is a course which is tranferrable anywhere on
the planet, also free; also with its monologues and dialogues on web site
and email list archives and 24/7 ongoing student-faculty participation.
Isn't that ultimately your objective?
POC
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:27:37 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: [MIT-OpenCourseWare-Discussion] The MIT OpenCourseWare Update
-- Vol. 2, Issue 11 (fwd)
<http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens>
Citizens for the "inherent dignity and worth of the human person"
Quoted words from UDHR/CAT
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Jon Paul Potts wrote:
> Dear Sir or Madam,
>
> I am not quite sure what you are driving at here, but yes, we do have
> examples of real people who have used MIT OpenCourseWare materials to
> educate themselves about a particular subject.
Thank you for your reply, Mr. Potts. POC platform includes the Michael
Sayler philanthropic ideal of a free ivy-league quality education for all
who are qualified and motivated, irrespective of ability to pay. President
Vest appeared on Charlie Rose in 2001 to say that the difference between
Sayler and MIT was that MIT was going to make this plan a reality.
What I am getting at is that OCW is of no value unless it translates into
actual educational benefit to the student and we have not yet seen the
evidence for this. Until we see it, the MIT program looks like a $100m.
boongoggle, ie a delaying of free courseware to the world which creates
the illusion of a benefit.
It seems to me MIT has been "hedging" on saying that OCW's objective is to
TEACH the courses. But unless they have that result, they are useless.
Let's face it. Most college teachers around the world do not need MIT
course materials. The prof teaching Intro Computing at UBC or BCIT would
be insulted by the suggestion that he must go to MIT to find out how to
provide the right collection of course materials. Thus the proof that MIT
is delivering where Sayler faltered is in actual students who have
learned, let us say Intro Computing from MIT's OCW.
However, we are not at
> liberty to be sharing individual stories without their permission.
Certainly that is so. But you can ask them for permission and I expect
most will gladly come forward and give their testimonials online. Perhaps
that can be a follow-up story for David Diamond, Wired staff writer who is
on the MIT- list.
Would you be willing to ask them to subscribe to the MIT- list and share
their experiences? They will be well received. POC has no complaint
whatsoever if MIT is getting to this stage. Quite the contrary. We would
also want to not redo courses you have already succeeded in getting to
that "end stage". For example if you follow our links you will see that
are putting a course comparable to BCIT's Intro Computing on web sites. If
MIT has done it, we have to rethink future practices. We might play a more
supporting role, eg by tutoring students taking the course through OCW.
Please let us know.
> We envision many different uses of MIT OCW. Faculty may adapt
> materials for their own courses, and students or individual learners
> may supplement their other learning resources with MIT OCW materials.
> We are certain users will find innovative ways that we have not yet
> thought of to take advantage of MIT OCW.
The public has President Vest's statement on PBS as well as Dean
Magnanti's statement about "reinventing teaching and learning". The most
innovative use of OCW is that of providing free online college education
for the world. President Vest in effect said that was its objective on
PBS. Until students come forward and say they have used OCW this way, it
has not proven itself. Once it has proven itself, I expect that a flood of
online teachers will participate. It starts with just one of your students
giving a testimonial online.
POC
> Thank you for your feedback.
>
> Sincerely,
> Jon Paul Potts
> MIT OCW Communications Manager
>
>
> At 2:38 PM -0500 11/20/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Can you name ONE student who says, Yes I used OCW to study Course X
> >and as a result I was able to successfully learn Course X?
> >
> >Z
>
> --
> "OpenCourseWare will help to raise the quality of higher education in
> every corner of the globe."
> - MIT President Charles M. Vest
>
> Jon Paul Potts
> Communications Manager
> MIT OpenCourseWare
> Building 9-211
> 77 Massachusetts Avenue
> Cambridge, MA 02139
> 617-452-3621
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://ocw.mit.edu
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