Re: [CTRL] Fwd: More Cal. Coast Anomalies/NWO--Native Americans

1999-09-24 Thread Das GOAT

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In a message dated 99-09-23 14:17:37 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 and the dirty bastards, when they can't utilize it for their
 own power, many times situate landfills on top of the holy
 sites...off with their heads.

Every invader desecrates the 'holy' sites of their predecessors.
Athabaskans [Navajo  Apache] invaded the SW and desecrated Hopi
holy sites.  Spanish Catholics invaded and desecrated Navajo holy
sites.  WASPs invaded  desecrated Catholic holy sites.  NewAgers
invaded and desecrated Prod holy sites.  And on and on and on...
If your deities can't protect your holy sites from the invaders,
what good are your deities?  How holy are those sites?

Back in the early '70s, I decided it would be useful to have on hand a
fine-scale map of geomagnetic and gravitational "anomalies" in the US (and
other continents), making it possible to cross-reference points of extreme
variation  --the highest ("peaks") and lowest ("valleys") field-values-- with
precise geographical locations, in order to see if such things as UFO
sightings or other paranormal phenomena were statistically more common at
those points.  I was able to obtain gross-scale maps from such agencies as
the US Geological Survey (I got a map of Asia from a Soviet scientist who,
surprisingly, responded promptly to my shot-in-the-dark request) but anything
finer was difficult to come by -- only half the states had been
geomagnetically/gravitationally surveyed in detail and the remaining had to
be pieced together from smaller regional maps (sold separately) which still
left gaps in the picture, like a jigsaw puzzle with missing pieces.

At any rate, after I had spliced together all the piece-maps available at the
time, I next set about attaching geographical place-names to the
longitude-and-latitude coodinates of the grid showing only field strength and
density, and the very first thing that leaped out at me was one odd fact --
in almost every location where there was a NEGATIVE anomaly (at energy
"sinks," where, theoretically, living organisms would experience "diminished
capacity" and function poorly), there was a "restricted-access" military
base!  These places were the OPPOSITE of "sacred places," something more like
"demonic graveyards," and I seriously doubt that anyone had deliberately
CHOSEN them as sites for secret test facilities (or whatever) DUE TO special
"field properties" measurable by science, since many of the military bases
erected there dated from an earlier period, prior to science's ability to
identify, much less measure, such things.

So, this observed correlation between "UNHOLY sites" --which even animals
tend to avoid-- and military bases or secret government research facilities,
still remains to be explained ...  Could it be because (1) only the most
dangerous or sinister among us INSTINCTIVELY, a la some "sixth sense," feel
"at home" there, in the same way that predators nest in foreboding places
where their prey would be reluctant to venture?
Or just because (2) these locations, often desolate and devoid of life, make
ideal hiding places for those who want to go about their business far from
society's prying eyes?

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[CTRL] Fwd: More Cal. Coast Anomalies/NWO--Native Americans

1999-09-23 Thread Kris Millegan





9.22.99
Re: Cal. Coast Anomalies

Some additional details, received from Jane, who just provided us with
excellent info on covert subterranean facilities and related operations
along the California coast.

In particular, her comments towards the end of this note are deserving
of serious consideration; about the fact so many covert government
installations are located on land sacred to Native Americans--as is most
certainly the case with the Montauk project in relation to Montauk
Pt./Turtle Cove--along with simultaneous indications that native tribes
are consistently targeted by intelligence agency spooks as well as FBI
and other fed goons for all kinds of infiltration, harassment,
discreditation, Machiavellian manipulations, assassinations, illegal
activities using informants, double agents, stooges and other "assets".

J. Quinn
- - - - - - - - - - - -
To: NewsHawk Inc.

Re: Cal Poly -- I was not aware of the origins, but it explains a lot of
things.

I first learned of odd things going on there, because my college
boyfriend and I were something of amateur private investigator types,
and we
started noticing a lot of odd things going on at Cal Poly. One of them
is that, at least in the 1970's, there was a spook training school on
campus. After a while, we started sitting up on the hill above campus
with high-powered binoculars and watching odd things, or tailing people
on our own.  We came to the realization that some sort of training
school was operating out of the basement of the now-demolished business
building.  I have since had it confirmed by a net contact that there
was/is a covert ops training center there.

Your information about the power spots does not surprise me.  I had friends
in the Indian Council in San Luis Obispo, and from them learned that Diablo
Canyon, the site of the nuclear reactor, was one of these, which was one
reason they were so upset.  The "master spirit gate" for the West Coast was
supposedly located on Vandenburg AFB (this corresponds to Montauk AF
Station's position on the East Coast-JQ).  My Native contacts tell me
that was "sealed" a few years ago, because of plans of the covert
government to use it for their own purposes, and a couple of their
people very narrowly
escaped being very mundanely killed by some of these folks.   Interestingly,
my contacts in the Native community are currently based in Ojai, in their
ancestral power spot, one of the places you mentioned.

I have found from my investigations that there is a string of these "gates"
up the West Coast.  And nuclear power plants and military installations are
not idly cited.  The San Onofre power plant south of Los Angeles is said to
be atop a Spirit Gate.  There is reputed to be one at Pt. Mugu
(CONFIRMED site of extensive underground facilities at the Naval Air
Station there-JQ).  Ditto Pt. Conception/Vandenburg; Diablo Canyon.
Moving up the coast, we next have Esalen,  a "Haunted Spot" near the
Carmel Mission, Haunted Meadow on the UC Santa Cruz campus, Marin
Headlands, definitely Bodega Head (Sonoma county), where they tried to
put a nuclear power plant but encountered too much legal opposition,
then Fort Ross, north of the Russian River (not far from the notorious
Bohemian Grove; reliably reported as a site of much covert NWO
government/psy-ops/ritual-sex-abuse malfeasance-JQ).  These are the ones
I have heard of. And only those directly on the coast.  I have heard of
others inland, such as Carissa Plains in San Luis Obispo County.

I didn't discuss this much in the past, since I've noticed that every
time I said too much, I ended up with hot and cold running spooks in my
life.  But that works two ways---it confirmed that I was onto things
that were real. The more I turn up, the bigger and more unnerving this
gets, and the more puzzle pieces drop into place.


I've also noticed that the NWO types seem to have a BIG stake in controlling
the Native American community, and can only ask *WHY.*  WHY use and subvert
their spiritual leaders?  Why try to kill or discredit others?  The answer
is that they have something the NWO wants, but what?  Whatever it is, you
can bet that the NWO wants to use it for power and control, because that's
the only bottom line for them.

Jane




Re: [CTRL] Fwd: More Cal. Coast Anomalies/NWO--Native Americans

1999-09-23 Thread Ric Carter

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- Original Message -
From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Many power plants in Florida are built on sacred
 sitesWeeden Island in St Petersburg Florida one such,
 and the dirty bastards, when they can't utilize it for their
 own power, many times situate landfills on top of the holy
 sites...off with their heads.

Every invader desecrates the 'holy' sites of their predecessors.
Athabaskans [Navajo  Apache] invaded the SW and desecrated Hopi
holy sites.  Spanish Catholics invaded and desecrated Navajo holy
sites.  WASPs invaded  desecrated Catholic holy sites.  NewAgers
invaded and desecrated Prod holy sites.  And on and on and on...
If your deities can't protect your holy sites from the invaders,
what good are your deities?  How holy are those sites?  Where is
your sacred strength/power when you really need it?  Abandoned
by the gods, your prospects are bleak.

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==
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screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing!  These are sordid matters
and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright
frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor effects
spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers;
be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: More Cal. Coast Anomalies/NWO--Native Americans

1999-09-23 Thread Bill

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Many power plants in Florida are built on sacred
sitesWeeden Island in St Petersburg Florida one such,
and the dirty bastards, when they can't utilize it for their
own power, many times situate landfills on top of the holy
sites...off with their heads.

Kris Millegan wrote:

   

 Subject: More Cal. Coast Anomalies/NWO--Native Americans
 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:49:34 +
 From: "NewsHawk Inc." [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: NewsHawk Inc.
 To: undisclosed-recipients:;

 9.22.99
 Re: Cal. Coast Anomalies

 Some additional details, received from Jane, who just provided us with
 excellent info on covert subterranean facilities and related operations
 along the California coast.

 In particular, her comments towards the end of this note are deserving
 of serious consideration; about the fact so many covert government
 installations are located on land sacred to Native Americans--as is most
 certainly the case with the Montauk project in relation to Montauk
 Pt./Turtle Cove--along with simultaneous indications that native tribes
 are consistently targeted by intelligence agency spooks as well as FBI
 and other fed goons for all kinds of infiltration, harassment,
 discreditation, Machiavellian manipulations, assassinations, illegal
 activities using informants, double agents, stooges and other "assets".

 J. Quinn
 - - - - - - - - - - - -
 To: NewsHawk Inc.

 Re: Cal Poly -- I was not aware of the origins, but it explains a lot of
 things.

 I first learned of odd things going on there, because my college
 boyfriend and I were something of amateur private investigator types,
 and we
 started noticing a lot of odd things going on at Cal Poly. One of them
 is that, at least in the 1970's, there was a spook training school on
 campus. After a while, we started sitting up on the hill above campus
 with high-powered binoculars and watching odd things, or tailing people
 on our own.  We came to the realization that some sort of training
 school was operating out of the basement of the now-demolished business
 building.  I have since had it confirmed by a net contact that there
 was/is a covert ops training center there.

 Your information about the power spots does not surprise me.  I had friends
 in the Indian Council in San Luis Obispo, and from them learned that Diablo
 Canyon, the site of the nuclear reactor, was one of these, which was one
 reason they were so upset.  The "master spirit gate" for the West Coast was
 supposedly located on Vandenburg AFB (this corresponds to Montauk AF
 Station's position on the East Coast-JQ).  My Native contacts tell me
 that was "sealed" a few years ago, because of plans of the covert
 government to use it for their own purposes, and a couple of their
 people very narrowly
 escaped being very mundanely killed by some of these folks.   Interestingly,
 my contacts in the Native community are currently based in Ojai, in their
 ancestral power spot, one of the places you mentioned.

 I have found from my investigations that there is a string of these "gates"
 up the West Coast.  And nuclear power plants and military installations are
 not idly cited.  The San Onofre power plant south of Los Angeles is said to
 be atop a Spirit Gate.  There is reputed to be one at Pt. Mugu
 (CONFIRMED site of extensive underground facilities at the Naval Air
 Station there-JQ).  Ditto Pt. Conception/Vandenburg; Diablo Canyon.
 Moving up the coast, we next have Esalen,  a "Haunted Spot" near the
 Carmel Mission, Haunted Meadow on the UC Santa Cruz campus, Marin
 Headlands, definitely Bodega Head (Sonoma county), where they tried to
 put a nuclear power plant but encountered too much legal opposition,
 then Fort Ross, north of the Russian River (not far from the notorious
 Bohemian Grove; reliably reported as a site of much covert NWO
 government/psy-ops/ritual-sex-abuse malfeasance-JQ).  These are the ones
 I have heard of. And only those directly on the coast.  I have heard of
 others inland, such as Carissa Plains in San Luis Obispo County.

 I didn't discuss this much in the past, since I've noticed that every
 time I said too much, I ended up with hot and cold running spooks in my
 life.  But that works two ways---it confirmed that I was onto things
 that were real. The more I turn up, the bigger and more unnerving this
 gets, and the more puzzle pieces drop into place.

 I've also noticed that the NWO types seem to have a BIG stake in controlling
 the Native American community, and can only ask *WHY.*  WHY use and subvert
 their spiritual leaders?  Why try to kill or discredit others?  The answer
 is that they have something the NWO wants, but what?  Whatever it is, you
 can bet that the NWO wants to use it for power and control, because that's
 the only bottom line for them.

 Jane

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