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Published Thursday, February 3, 2000, in the Miami Herald

Grandmoms resisted thought of taking Elian

BY ELAINE DE VALLE
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A week after the much-publicized visit between Elian Gonzalez and
his two grandmothers, the women said in an interview with Cuban
television that they were tempted to grab the boy in Miami and
not let him go.

But, they said, they had to respect the agreements they had made.

``Weren't you tempted to grab your grandson and not let them take
him?'' journalist Arleen Rodriguez Derivet asked.

Mariela Quintana, Elian's paternal grandmother, admitted the
thought crossed their minds. ``We knew that we couldn't do it, we
had to follow the rules, and at no time did we not follow them,''
she said. Quintana returned Sunday to Cuba along with Raquel
Rodriguez, the boy's maternal grandmother.

Quintana added that their goal was to ``see the boy, be with him,
but never to break the law.''

Other details from the 90-minute meeting revealed Wednesday
shocked and angered his Miami relatives, said family spokesman
Armando Gutierrez.

He referred to a particular comment by Quintana.

Quintana said in the interview that she did some ``mischievous
things'' so that Elian would talk.

She wanted to see ``if he had no little tongue,'' she said. ``I
took it out of his mouth, I bit it.'' Then she asked to see his
private parts, presumably to see how much he had grown.

``If you want to see how he's grown, you measure him. You don't
go inside his pants,'' Gutierrez said.

``I am so surprised by this. So much hassle to see their
grandson, and instead of kissing him and hugging him they are
biting his tongue and taking his thing out?

``It's left me dumbstruck.''

He said he didn't believe that they were trying to determine the
boy's growth in the two months that he has been away from them.

``I don't know if they were looking to see if he was wired, if he
was bugged,'' Gutierrez added.

He said the boy's great-uncle, Lazaro Gonzalez -- with whom the
child has been staying after being plucked from the sea on
Thanksgiving Day -- saw the interview on Spanish-language Channel
23 and was ``disturbed [and] upset and he is surprised that they
used those precious moments with him to do that.''

Neither Lazaro Gonzalez nor his daughter Marisleysis Gonzalez,
who family members say has become a sort of surrogate mother for
Elian, could be reached for comment Wednesday night. But
Gutierrez said he had not asked the boy about the meeting with
his grandmothers.

``I have not asked the boy anything about that visit because when
he went to that meeting he was scared and when he came out he was
relaxed a little bit that he wasn't taken back to Cuba,''
Gutierrez said. ``So I don't talk to him about it. I talk to him
about sports and school and high-fives -- little things that kids
like to hear.''

Gutierrez said the grandmothers' interview was also full of lies.
For instance, they said they had not been able to talk to Elian
on the telephone for more than four days. ``And that is just not
true,'' Gutierrez said.

Herald wire services contributed to this report.


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