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[CTRL] Illuminati Conspiracy

1999-08-25 Thread NiKo

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On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

I know Fritz, personally, and he his a good guy.  But one must recognize and
he states in his work, what his research style is. And that is to gather
everything he hears and reads and put them together.

Does this mean that it isn't "nice" to point out mistakes and errors?
He should be glad that there's somebody willing to correct them.
(except if he's giving out disinformation on purpose of course)

After reading the article on Newt Gingrich I'm not so sure Fritz is a
"good guy". The language he uses to describe people who are not
Christian fundamentalists ...

I'm not a Christian fundamentalist, so probably he'll see me as a
"demented satanist" too.

Natalie

A man must not swallow more beliefs than he can digest.

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[CTRL] Illuminati conspiracy

1999-08-22 Thread NiKo

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After the flood of Illuminati info:
Did anybody really READ the pages of "Illuminati News" and Fritz
Springmeier?

I did, and I found a lot of contradictions and stupid errors.

I've sent several messages to the owner of
www.islandnet.com/~persewen/ to point out some of the
contradictions. I never got an answer.

I can't prove that there isn't a conspiracy, but if "they" really
are that powerful, and if "they" really started their conspiracies
centuries ago, we wouldn't be able to write about it.
I wont deny the fact that there are children being abused by
perverts, I'm not so sure it has to do with satanism.



Some examples of contradictions:

- there's a photograph of Bo Gritz in the Gallery of Illuminati
(Photo Gallery Various) but on another page he's referred to as
"this great American hero" and "my dear friend" (Operation Vampire
Killer 2000)

- nature's god (from the Declaration of Independence) is described
as the true God in Operation Vampire Killer 2000, but in The DuPont
Bloodline as a satanic deity.

- witches (mostly females), who were were burnt at the stake for
practicing alternative treatment in form of herbs and old wisdom
(World War III and the Witch Hunt on Alternative Medicine), and
witchcraft was not a group of poor innocent women chased by a
malicious Christian society (The Science of Body Manipulation)

On the Index page the owner gives this advice:  And if you're not
familiar on the subject, I strongly advice you to start with the
link called "An over-all Briefing"

A few paragraphs from An over-all Briefing:
   This story is very carefully told in the Sumerian scriptures,
   which go back at least 6000 years. There it says man was created
   by aliens, who came to this planet to exploit its resources -
   especially gold.

   First homo sapiens was only meant for slave labor and couldn't
   breed. Later on this was changed. Ea didn't like, though, how his
   created race was treated and wanted to enlighten them by telling
   them who they were and where they came from. He also wanted to
   tell them the well hidden truth that each individual is a spirit
   inhabiting a body and that after body death the spirit lives on
   and picks up a new baby body.

   In the Holy Bible this story is told as "Adam and Eve", "Garden
   of Eden", "The serpent" and the "Tree of Knowledge". This is all
   symbolic stories, and the serpent (snake) in this case was Ea,
   who enlightened Adam and Eve by tempting them to eat the apple on
   the "Tree of Knowledge". The whole thing was then turned around
   by the alien race in a manipulation of homo sapiens, calling Ea
   the Devil and the alien race God(s), and that the Devil should be
   fought in whatever shape he'd take.

Ea is the one who wanted to enlighten people, but in the Bible he
becomes the devil. This contradicts everything that's said against
the satanists/Freemasons/etc. on the other pages.


About the Springmeier articles.
Springmeier seems to be ranting against everybody who is not a
"devout Christian", although he even suspects some "devout
Christians" (they have MPD and are part of the conspiracy), but most
of all he suspects people from Scotch or Irish ancestry, Jews,
Gypsies, homosexuals, Methodists, Episcopalians and Mormons.

He knows exactly what the plans of God, Satan and the Illuminati
are, he must have a hot line to all of them.

He warns "the reader" several times that there are a number people
who seem to be anti-NWO but in reality they are double-agents and
sometimes even 'unwitting' mind-controlled slaves. How can he prove
he's not a mind-controlled slave or a double-agent? He refers to
himself as "this author" (50 times in Body Manipulation and 42 times
in Disney), he seems to be acting rather dissociated (which is
according to "this author" a sign of being a mind-controlled slave).

[Typos and errors in the quotes are copyright Fritz Springmeier, all
other typos and errors are mine. Just for the record: English is not
my native language.]

Some of the the stupid errors:

   In The Collins Bloodline there is a description of a Satanic
   meeting which takes place in 1955.
   quote:
   The Anti-Christ was a tiny baby or not yet born. Was this
   Benjamin Creme? However, the descriptions of this occult John the
   Baptist do match Benjamin Creme. Benjamin Creme was born in 1924,
   ...
   [and still a tiny baby?]


   Kennedy:
   Jackie Bouvier Kennedy Onassis who married John F. Kennedy was
   tied to the Auchinclosses via her sister's marriage into the
   Auchincloss family. The Auchinclosses are Scottish bloodline of
   the Illuminati.

   Compare with:

   Onassis:
   Jackie's "step-father" was the Auchincloss family, an elite
   family. Her step-father's second wife before Jackie's mother was
   Senator Thomas Gore's daughter.
   [???]


   Rockefeller:
   In other words the Pope was not in the Illuminati hierarchy, but
   he carries out transactions with them, and coordinates his
   actions 

Re: [CTRL] Illuminati conspiracy

1999-08-22 Thread Kris Millegan

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In a message dated 8/22/99 3:52:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

After the flood of Illuminati info:
Did anybody really READ the pages of "Illuminati News" and Fritz
Springmeier?

As each post starts with Caveat Lector and each post ends with a disclaimer.
The point being be careful of what you believe. There is lots of info  and
before ya'll go jumping off cliffs, take  time and  do research.

I know Fritz, personally, and he his a good guy.  But one must recognize and
he states in his work, what his research style is. And that is to gather
everything he hears and reads and put them together. His findings are rarely
documented and one must due dilligence to ascertain the truth. Fritz has
reported another researcher friend of mine dead, killed by a santanci cult,
when he was very much alive.

Read the information, but be careful of what you believe.  MHO

Om
K

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1999-08-22 Thread Tenorlove

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Something else to remember: Fritz's native language is not English.
Sometimes one has to read his sentences 2 or 3 times to make sense of
them--kind of like mine, no? :-D


--- Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 As each post starts with Caveat Lector and each post ends with a
 disclaimer.
 The point being be careful of what you believe. There is lots of info
  and
 before ya'll go jumping off cliffs, take  time and  do research.

 I know Fritz, personally, and he his a good guy.  But one must
 recognize and
 he states in his work, what his research style is. And that is to
 gather
 everything he hears and reads and put them together. His findings are
 rarely
 documented and one must due dilligence to ascertain the truth. Fritz
 has
 reported another researcher friend of mine dead, killed by a santanci
 cult,
 when he was very much alive.

 Read the information, but be careful of what you believe.  MHO

 Om
 K

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Re: [CTRL] Illuminati conspiracy

1999-08-22 Thread Kris Millegan

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In a message dated 8/22/99 7:57:25 PM, you wrote:

Something else to remember: Fritz's native language is not English.
Sometimes one has to read his sentences 2 or 3 times to make sense of
them--kind of like mine, no? :-D

Fritz is american his dad worked for the government, I believe,  and he
travelled, but he speaks well, Get his videos.

Om
k

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