Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.

1999-01-17 Thread PRUDYL

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  I hear that  David Duke--the Grand Old Wizard--will be running for
Congress,

   I would point out that  under the Democratic/liberal definition of morality
 David Duke would be considered a  moral man as long as he was true to
 political issues.
 Did you see the news report about the 47 Democrats who were card carrying
 members of the alleged white supremist group that the liberals excoriated
 Trent Lott about?  Interestingly no liberals/Democrats have stepped forward
to
 denounce those 47. 

You're right.  They're all a bunch of bums.  I'm sure that most of those 47
Dems are the blue dogs from the South.  Some may already be on the Rep list.
It's amazing how quick the news is ready to report about this business when
they're trying to make Lott look good, and how Clinton is the only adulterer
who ever set foot in Washington.  Oh well.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.

1999-01-15 Thread RGates8254

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In a message dated 1/14/99 2:15:20 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 In a message dated 1/14/99 6:25:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  writes:

   In a message dated 1/13/99 10:41:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
I am curious.  Do you think the liberal left would mind  some
conservative
 dude
 said he would put up 1 million dollars for information about the
 Democrats
and
 their sex lives?

  Kenneth Starr has already spent $40 million to get the sexual goods on
  President Clinton.

As was pointed out earlier, this has nothing to do with sex, but it has lots
to do
with the President lying under oath.  You see by the law of the land it would
have been fine for President  Clinton to have had sex with every women who
worked for him...as long as he told the truth about it when asked.
  The chant coming from the White House and all the faithful supporters is
that the Starr investigation is only about sex.  It reminds me of the chant
coming from the Nixon White House and from the loyal Nixon supporters
who were claiming that the "liberals were just using  Watergate to get
Nixon" and that further according to them "he was the most honest
president ever elected..."
   If you believe that the Starr investigation is only about sex, then you
surely
should believe that Richard Nixon was the most honest president elected and
that all Watergate was about was the liberals trying to get Nixon.
  Bottom line Nixon was a crook, and the Starr investigation is about lying
under oath.
Cheers,
Robert

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Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.

1999-01-15 Thread Sno0wl

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On 13 Jan 99, , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I am curious.  Do you think the liberal left would mind  some
conservative
 dude
 said he would put up 1 million dollars for information about the Democrats
 and their sex lives?  The answer is a resounding YES.  The liberals and
 the left would squall their heads off.  We would hear weeks of tales and
 stories about how the right has gone off the deep end blah blah blah.
 Naturally  the liberal left doesn't mind when its pointed to the right.
   As for "family values" we should remember that  Clinton/Gore who
 got on the "family values" platform in 1992 and 1996 when they were
 reelected.

I think we've already been through this--with millions and millions of dollars of 
Scaiffe
money--not to mention 40 million dollars of taxpayer money. All these millions have
been directed at digging up dirt on Clinton. While more and more American children
are growing up in povertyand more and more working American families have no
health care. Just like the good ol' 50s, except now it takes two or three working 
adults
to provide a non-living wage.

So what's Larry Flynt's paltry million dollar offer. Not even an equal shot.

I'm getting concerned that this list is leaning so heavily to the right. And I hear 
that
David Duke--the Grand Old Wizard--will be running for Congress, too. Wouldn't it be
weird if it turned out that Charley Manson was right--even if his timing was off by a
decade or two.


sno0wl

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Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.

1999-01-14 Thread Stopforth, Jamie

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It's fine with me.  I'd like to see it.  After all the Dems and
the Reps are
 so similar they switch parties with great ease.  I want to see everybody's
 dirty laundry.  Why not?  Then we can choose the bum whose sex life repels
 us
 the least.  Prudy

There's a difference with having a fling or an affair, then having
sex with a subordinate on the job.  Do people realize this? Not that one is
worse then the other, but... Larry F. isn't making his point well... The
pres isn't being impeached because he had sex with Monica anyways... I
wonder if he's aware of this.

Jamie

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Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.

1999-01-14 Thread Carlene M. Wojahn

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 worse then the other, but... Larry F. isn't making his point well... The
 pres isn't being impeached because he had sex with Monica anyways... I wonder if
 he's aware of this.

I am quite sure he is...he lied...pure and simple...remember when he smoke pot he
didn't inhale.come on.



It has nothing to do with sex...he lied under oath..he could of taken the
fifth...but he lied, and he took an oath and swore under another oath

Carlene

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Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.

1999-01-14 Thread William Shannon

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In response to the "what would the liberals do if come conservative dude spent
millions exposing the scandals of democrats" I'd say it's already been done.
R.M.Scaife has spent BIG bucks to "get Clinton" and Rupert Murdoch has done
much the same.


Bill

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Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.

1999-01-14 Thread Gerald Harp

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In a message dated 1/14/99 6:25:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 In a message dated 1/13/99 10:41:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I am curious.  Do you think the liberal left would mind  some
  conservative
   dude
   said he would put up 1 million dollars for information about the Democrats
  and
   their sex lives?

Kenneth Starr has already spent $40 million to get the sexual goods on
President Clinton.

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Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.

1999-01-13 Thread PRUDYL

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In a message dated 1/12/99 5:18:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sorry to hear that he wasn't given air time.  Mustn't upset the right-wing
 freaks by exposing their hypocrisy.  On the local TV news, it was stated that
 Bob "family values" Barr was accused with shacking up with his third wife
 while he was still married to his second wife.  There was also some he
 said/she said regarding the abortion.  Regarding another self righteous but
 unnamed Republican, it was said that he routinely visited the brothels along
 the Mexican border.  One hopes he doesn't have too many STDs.  Let's hope,
the
 elites are not able to continue the news block. 

If I'm remembering correctly, Libby Dole's marriage to Bob was also pressaged
by similar behavior.  No one seems to mind if you're a Republican.  Pudy

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Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.

1999-01-13 Thread PRUDYL

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 I've got better things to do with my time than watch that sleazeball. 

I believe you control the remote in your house.  No one is trying to tell you
who or what to watch.  I'd really appreciate it if the media (and their
corporate friends) would stop telling me who or what I may watch.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.

1999-01-13 Thread Barb Witt

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At 07:52 AM 1/13/99 -0500, you wrote:
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In a message dated 1/12/99 5:18:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sorry to hear that he wasn't given air time.  Mustn't upset the right-wing
 freaks by exposing their hypocrisy.  On the local TV news, it was stated that
 Bob "family values" Barr was accused with shacking up with his third wife
 while he was still married to his second wife.  There was also some he
 said/she said regarding the abortion.  Regarding another self righteous but
 unnamed Republican, it was said that he routinely visited the brothels along
 the Mexican border.  One hopes he doesn't have too many STDs.  Let's hope,
the
 elites are not able to continue the news block. 

If I'm remembering correctly, Libby Dole's marriage to Bob was also pressaged
by similar behavior.  No one seems to mind if you're a Republican.  Pudy

Except if you're Bob Packwood.  Remember the feminist Senators screaming
"apologies are not enough"!!?!

Barb

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Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.

1999-01-13 Thread Gerald Harp

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  ...Larry Flynt is anything but a sleazeball. He's a true champion of the
1st
  Amendment and is simply pointing out the hypocrisy of the radical right.
  Cheers to Larry! Keep up the fight!

I agree.  Flynt has apparently been addicted to sex in the past but he is now
serving the national interest.

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Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.

1999-01-13 Thread Mike Moxley

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At 09:13 PM 1/12/99 EST, you wrote:
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...Larry Flynt is anything but a sleazeball. He's a true champion of the 1st
Amendment and is simply pointing out the hypocrisy of the radical right.
Cheers to Larry! Keep up the fight!


Alright, close yer rain coat back up.
Larry Flint doesn't give a rat's ass about the first amendment.
What? Freedom  of speech? Of the Press? Freedom of Religion? Freedom to
assemble?
This is nothing more than a radical left-wing extremist's plot to apply
pressure to subvert free political speech by extortion, and to undermine
the Constitutional process. A weak plot at that.
Flynt is nothing more than a friggin' crippled pervert.  But then again so
is Klinton. :)
Larry Flynt is a Prime example of hypocrisy on the left.
How could he possibly be a "true champion" of anything?
Amazing all the pondscum friends Klinton has
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Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.

1999-01-13 Thread RGates8254

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In a message dated 1/13/99 5:53:12 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 In a message dated 1/12/99 5:18:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  writes:

   Sorry to hear that he wasn't given air time.  Mustn't upset the right-
 wing
   freaks by exposing their hypocrisy.  On the local TV news, it was stated
 that
   Bob "family values" Barr was accused with shacking up with his third wife
   while he was still married to his second wife.  There was also some he
   said/she said regarding the abortion.  Regarding another self righteous
but
   unnamed Republican, it was said that he routinely visited the brothels
 along
   the Mexican border.  One hopes he doesn't have too many STDs.  Let's hope,
  the
   elites are not able to continue the news block. 

  If I'm remembering correctly, Libby Dole's marriage to Bob was also
 pressaged
  by similar behavior.  No one seems to mind if you're a Republican.  Pudy

  Gang,
  Couple of things that have been conviently forgotten.
What was actually reported is that Barr and the other woman refused
to answer questions on the stand during a divorce proceeding.
So Barr and this other woman  never lied under oath because they never
actually answered the question put to them...apparently he claimed the
5th or something like that.  But claiming the 5th must be ok because
notable Democrats such as Carville, Lanny Davis and others have done
it during various "under oath" sessions during lawsuits and grand jury.
 The difference between Barr  and Clinton is Clinton answered the question(s)
and lied under oath.  Had Clinton fessed up to getting oral  sex from Monica
in and around the oval office in January of 1998 when the  scandel first blew
up, it would have never led to impeachment...although the Paula Jones case
may have still been on going..which is why Clinton lied in the first place.
  Which brings me to the next point.  The liberals/Democrats et all
define morality as 'being true (supporting) to the political issues' i.e.
abortion, welfare, and such, with your private life not being a factor
in your morals.
  Under the Democrat/Liberal principle and definition being advanced a
dedicated member  of the militia/KKK/NAZI's or whom ever  would be
defined as "moral men"  as long as they remained true to their political
 issues during the day.  After all what they do at night or after hours
doesn't matter under that definition.  Likewise if a loyal Democrat (or any
party) person was true to the issues during the day,
but molested children at night, then he too would be considered a
moral man.
 Under the liberal/Democrat definition of morality it would be ok to fool
around
on your husband or wife...as long as you were 'true to the political
issues' while you were serving.
  So if Liberals and Democrats are true to the principles and
definitions advanced by their leaders nothing Bob Barr/Livingston or any
other Republican did could  even be remotely considered to be
immoral.
  The proof of this principle is what the head of the Democratic party and
the President of the US did when Livingston resigned over his
philandering.  The President  called for Bob Livingston  to NOT resign over
sex issues.  Interestingly it was all the Democrats who were calling for
Livingston not to resign while the Republicans said nothing.
  It is because of the above mentioned point (about the Democrat/Liberal
definition of morality) is the exact reason why the White
House/Democrats/Liberals/Feminists are  now embracing Larry Flynt.  Even to
the
point of White House press secretary calling Hustler a "news magazine."
We see that even though Larry Flynt has exploited women and promoted child
molesting, what he does is OK because Flynt is true to the politcal issues.
   I am curious.  Do you think the liberal left would mind  some conservative
dude
said he would put up 1 million dollars for information about the Democrats and
their sex lives?  The answer is a resounding YES.  The liberals and the left
would
squall their heads off.  We would hear weeks of tales and stories about how
the right
has gone off the deep end blah blah blah.   Naturally  the liberal left
doesn't mind
when its pointed to the right.
  As for "family values" we should remember that  Clinton/Gore who
got on the "family values" platform in 1992 and 1996 when they were reelected.
 If you sincerely believe  the notion is that
*anybody* that claims family values, but yet goes out and has sex out
of marriage, is a hyprocrit, then you must also believe that besides the
Republicans, the leader of your party and the President of the US falls
in that catagory.
  I suspect that the liberals/democrats/left will continue to support anything
connected
to "their man" just like  some  foolish people in the Republican
party/Conservatives
supported Richard Nixon in 1974...because he was "their man."
  Remember one final thought.  IF Clinton gets removed from office (I don't
think he will) it will be 

Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.

1999-01-12 Thread Brian Redman

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I tuned in to C-Span at 10 pm CST. C-Span gave a brief statement
that, since Flynt's announcement may have been "defamatory," they
were withholding broadcast for the time being.

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On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Edward Britton wrote:

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 All:

 According to WCNN, Atlanta, Whitehouse lap dog, Larry Flynt, will be giving
 an exclusive press conference on C-SPAN tonight at 8:00 PM Pacific Time.
 Check your local guides to be sure of the times.

 According to the report, Flynt will be dropping several bombshells
 concerning the sexual habits of multiple members of the Republican leadership.

 Should be interesting :-)

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Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.

1999-01-12 Thread PRUDYL

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In a message dated 1/12/99 9:55:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 I tuned in to C-Span at 10 pm CST. C-Span gave a brief statement
 that, since Flynt's announcement may have been "defamatory," they
 were withholding broadcast for the time being. 

Well, it seems that when the guns were turned onto the Republicans, they
circled the wagons and have declared we will not hear Mr. Flynt's information.
Why am I not surprised?  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.

1999-01-12 Thread Gerald Harp

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In a message dated 1/11/99 5:43:53 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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  According to WCNN, Atlanta, Whitehouse lap dog, Larry Flynt, will be giving
  an exclusive press conference on C-SPAN tonight at 8:00 PM Pacific Time.
  Check your local guides to be sure of the times.

Sorry to hear that he wasn't given air time.  Mustn't upset the right-wing
freaks by exposing their hypocrisy.  On the local TV news, it was stated that
Bob "family values" Barr was accused with shacking up with his third wife
while he was still married to his second wife.  There was also some he
said/she said regarding the abortion.  Regarding another self righteous but
unnamed Republican, it was said that he routinely visited the brothels along
the Mexican border.  One hopes he doesn't have too many STDs.  Let's hope, the
elites are not able to continue the news block.

Jerry

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Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.

1999-01-12 Thread William Shannon

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...Larry Flynt is anything but a sleazeball. He's a true champion of the 1st
Amendment and is simply pointing out the hypocrisy of the radical right.
Cheers to Larry! Keep up the fight!

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[CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.

1999-01-11 Thread Edward Britton

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All:

According to WCNN, Atlanta, Whitehouse lap dog, Larry Flynt, will be giving
an exclusive press conference on C-SPAN tonight at 8:00 PM Pacific Time.
Check your local guides to be sure of the times.

According to the report, Flynt will be dropping several bombshells
concerning the sexual habits of multiple members of the Republican leadership.

Should be interesting :-)

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