Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth

1999-09-24 Thread Das GOAT

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Wow, neat stuff!   I heard Zecharia tell the audience in a
lecture once that "Anunaki translated formally to 'The Lofty
Ones'"

That's correct, as I recall.  The ANUnaki were the elder children of ANU,
"the High (or Lofty) One," a common title for sky-gods.  The sky or "heaven"
is, after all, Up There.  The Igigi, a different group, were the equivalent
stars in the SOUTHERN hemisphere, which set BELOW the horizon -- descending
to the "underworld," figuratively.  By the same symbolic reasoning, they
could be called the sons of Ea or Enki ["Lord of Ki," a variant of "Kur," the
primeval earth-beast] , the south-polar god who took their side against
usurper Enlil/EL-lil ("lord of the atmosphere") in a Titan-like revolt of
certain gods forced to work the "mines" (like the Titan-born Cyclopes of the
Greeks) within the earth or otherwise exiled to the world "below" (like the
Fallen Angels in the Book of Enoch or the Nefilim in Genesis).  Ea/Enki, as
you know, was the "Prometheus" of Sumeria, a "trickster" god of subtle wisdom
and a "friend of mankind" (famous as the savior of Utnapishtim, our Noah) who
took the hybrid creature's side against the evil Enlil/El,
who wanted to destroy humanity entirely in the Flood for "rebelling" as did
the Igigi.

In the Sumerian texts, it was the Igigi who revolted against being subjected
to hard labor by their brothers the Annunaki, who remained sky-borne and
aloof.  Just as in Greek mythology, the younger Olympians (Zeus would be the
equivalent of Enlil) overthrew the Old Gods of NATURE, the Titans, and the
rebellious spirit of freedom survived in the son of the leader of the Titans
and his heir, Prometheus, whom Zeus feared as rival and possible successor.
The gods hated human beings and held them in contempt.  Only rometheus, who
helped CREATE man, cared about us little creatures, to the extent of even
sacrificing himself (he was chained to a rock, his liver eaten by Zeus'
totem-eagle) to "save" us, by granting "fire from heaven," light or
INTELLIGENCE, which he STOLE from the jealous gods of the second generation,
who had already enslaved NATURE.

Sitchin (with whom I discused this point) is well aware of the parallels
between the fish-god Ea/Enki and CHRIST with His "fishes" and "fishermen"
associations, and the parallels between the Gnostic dualism of Christ vs. the
Demiurge (FALSE Creator,
identified with the wrathful war-god Jehovah) and the Sumerian cosmology of
RIVAL gods, Ea/Enki and Enlil, understood as TWINS born of Anu, but of
different mothers.
Sitchin, however, is an Israeli Jew who studied under rabbis, and naturally
takes the OPPOSITE side that I myself would support if such a duality were a
theological fact --
in his latest writings, he is a wholehearted supporter of Enlil/Jehovah and
goes as far as to justify human enslavement by the "lofty" gods, who intended
us to be mere cattle.
Me, I'd go with Ea/Enki, mankind's SAVIOR-god, and with the SON of Ea/Enki
known as Dumuzi in Sumerian, Tammuz in Babylonian/Hebrew, a dying/resurrected
"savior"
who is, even in the minds of many scholars, the archetype of our later idea
of Christ.

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Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth

1999-09-23 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, earthman wrote:

 You don't happen to have their ETA do you?
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Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth

1999-09-23 Thread Das GOAT

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In a message dated 99-09-23 00:27:49 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Yep.  And, the Sumerian Glyph for the word Annunaki translates to
"The Lofty Ones!"

Uh ... Before we get too carried away here, the more mundane understanding of
the Annunaki and Igigi ("Watchers") in Sumerian religion is that they were
the northern and southern circumpolar stars respectively, "the motionless
ones on high," in contrast to the predictably cyclic planets on the ecliptic
(the 7 main deities, in Sitchin's listing).
When the Universe was divided up (when Tiamat [and Abzu], the Dragon of
"Chaos" [and/or her mate] was conquered and carved up like silly ylem-putty),
"sky-god" Anu got the northern polar region, "water/earth god" Ea got the
area of the South Pole (where
he, like Osiris, is to be found still in Canopus/Argo), and "war god" Enlil
got rule of the ecliptic, with the planets subordinated to him by brute force
as "king of the gods" [like the "Lord of Hosts," meaning General of the Army,
Yhwh Adonai ha-Tzabaoth].

Same basic concept held by the ancient Egyptians of the "stellar religion"
period, as you may discover when reading the oldest Pyramid Texts.

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Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth

1999-09-23 Thread Bill

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Psilocybe Cubensis as doorway.

earthman wrote:

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 Thanks Bill. It was not the piece I was referring too but very interesting
 anyway.
 Hmmm does it mean we should or should not eat mushrooms?
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   The first time I saw that proposition was in a book
  called Magic Mushroom Cultivation...one of the first
  written, from the seventies...it told first person, from a
  mycelial networks point of view, of the code it carries from
  planet to planet via fungus spores.
   This idea has since been propounded enormously and that
  is a good thingthe coverings of fungus spores, which are
  microscopic, are made of the hardest biological material
  knownit is supposed these vastly miniature seeds, each
  carrying within itself 90% of the DNA of everything alive
  here today, can even withstand even the rigors of
  space...they of course migrate through the atmosphere, and
  some even get out of the atmosphere, to be blown along by
  the slight but extremely persistent solar windand
  awy we go...there is one mycelial growth out west
  that covers many hundreds of acres, all underground of
  course, and has been estimated at 1500 years old I think
 
  earthman wrote:
  
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   Can anyone help me with this. I posted on a list that the origins of
 life on
   earth came from outer space. I read it somewhere on the web or email and
 it
   is has  a specific name. I have been trying to find where I filed it and
 it
   is driving me crazy. Can anyone remember what it is called or where a
 site
   is that has this..
   I knew I would get a bite re the post and I don't want to lose the fish.
   Peter.
  
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Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth

1999-09-23 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Das GOAT wrote:

 In a message dated 99-09-23 00:27:49 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Yep.  And, the Sumerian Glyph for the word Annunaki translates to
 "The Lofty Ones!"

 Uh ... Before we get too carried away here, the more mundane
 understanding of the Annunaki and Igigi ("Watchers") in
 Sumerian religion is that they were the northern and southern
 circumpolar stars respectively, "the motionless ones on
 high," in contrast to the predictably cyclic planets on the
 ecliptic (the 7 main deities, in Sitchin's listing).



Wow, neat stuff!   I heard Zecharia tell the audience in a
lecture once that "Anunaki translated formally to 'The Lofty
Ones'"



When the
 Universe was divided up (when Tiamat [and Abzu], the Dragon
 of "Chaos" [and/or her mate] was conquered and carved up like
 silly ylem-putty), "sky-god" Anu got the northern polar
 region, "water/earth god" Ea got the area of the South Pole
 (where he, like Osiris, is to be found still in
 Canopus/Argo), and "war god" Enlil got rule of the ecliptic,
 with the planets subordinated to him by brute force as "king
 of the gods" [like the "Lord of Hosts," meaning General of
 the Army, Yhwh Adonai ha-Tzabaoth].



Great info, thanks:)

Also, I used to write it various ways, but in Israel, it's
spelled "YHVH Adonai TZEVAOT" (or Yahweh, our Lord, Host of
Hosts) ...neat, huh? (i.e., how the Hebrews modified it, or how
the language of Hebrew is supposed to be The language given us by
YHVH, and it is the language of the Higher Heavens.  YET the
Sumers seem to have had a very similar culture, language,
traditions, BEFORE there was a Hebrew language!

 Same basic concept held by the ancient Egyptians of the "stellar religion"
 period, as you may discover when reading the oldest Pyramid Texts.

Cool...will do.

Best,

Mike


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Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth

1999-09-22 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, Mark McHugh wrote:

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 C Davis wrote:
 
 
  Annunaki..
 

 The Space Gods return!

 --
 Mark McHugh


Yep.  And, the Sumerian Glyph for the word Annunaki translates to
"The Lofty Ones!"


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Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth

1999-09-22 Thread C Davis

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Annunaki..

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Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth

1999-09-22 Thread TenebrousT

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Could you be talking about the "Star Seed Theory"?  It has been proposed that
the necessary ingredients for life were deposited here from comets that
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Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth

1999-09-22 Thread Kelly

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 Could you be talking about the "Star Seed Theory"?  It has been proposed that
 the necessary ingredients for life were deposited here from comets that
 regularly impacted the earth from outer space.


I think it is called Panspermia.

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Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth

1999-09-22 Thread TenebrousT

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In a message dated 9/22/99 9:28:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Could you be talking about the "Star Seed Theory"?  It has been proposed
 that
   the necessary ingredients for life were deposited here from comets that
   regularly impacted the earth from outer space.


  I think it is called Panspermia.

I believe you are correct.

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Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth

1999-09-22 Thread Mark McHugh

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C Davis wrote:


 Annunaki..


The Space Gods return!

--
Mark McHugh

Sizhu i bormochu...

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Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth

1999-09-22 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Try searching on "Arrhenius" and "Panspermia".

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 Can anyone help me with this. I posted on a list that the origins of life
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 is that has this..
 I knew I would get a bite re the post and I don't want to lose the fish.
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Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth

1999-09-22 Thread earthman

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Thanks Bill. It was not the piece I was referring too but very interesting
anyway.
Hmmm does it mean we should or should not eat mushrooms?
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- Original Message -
From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth


 -Caveat Lector-

  The first time I saw that proposition was in a book
 called Magic Mushroom Cultivation...one of the first
 written, from the seventies...it told first person, from a
 mycelial networks point of view, of the code it carries from
 planet to planet via fungus spores.
  This idea has since been propounded enormously and that
 is a good thingthe coverings of fungus spores, which are
 microscopic, are made of the hardest biological material
 knownit is supposed these vastly miniature seeds, each
 carrying within itself 90% of the DNA of everything alive
 here today, can even withstand even the rigors of
 space...they of course migrate through the atmosphere, and
 some even get out of the atmosphere, to be blown along by
 the slight but extremely persistent solar windand
 awy we go...there is one mycelial growth out west
 that covers many hundreds of acres, all underground of
 course, and has been estimated at 1500 years old I think

 earthman wrote:
 
   -Caveat Lector-
 
  Can anyone help me with this. I posted on a list that the origins of
life on
  earth came from outer space. I read it somewhere on the web or email and
it
  is has  a specific name. I have been trying to find where I filed it and
it
  is driving me crazy. Can anyone remember what it is called or where a
site
  is that has this..
  I knew I would get a bite re the post and I don't want to lose the fish.
  Peter.
 
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Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth

1999-09-22 Thread earthman

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I don't think the dude I am corresponding to is ready for that one yet..LOL
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 Annunaki..

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Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth

1999-09-22 Thread earthman

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Yep I think I am referring to that.. I have seen that theory floating around
lately too, buggar it.There is a scientific term for it too.
Heck it makes sense though doesn't it?.
Thanks
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 Could you be talking about the "Star Seed Theory"?  It has been proposed
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Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth

1999-09-22 Thread earthman

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Thank you thank you, that is what it is called. Woo hoo.

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- Original Message -
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Could you be talking about the "Star Seed Theory"?  It has been proposed
that
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  regularly impacted the earth from outer space.


 I think it is called Panspermia.

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Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth

1999-09-22 Thread earthman

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You don't happen to have their ETA do you?
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 C Davis wrote:
 
 
  Annunaki..
 

 The Space Gods return!

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Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth

1999-09-22 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could you be talking about the "Star Seed Theory"?  It has been proposed that
 the necessary ingredients for life were deposited here from comets that
 regularly impacted the earth from outer space.


That's the "tradition" that is common to all ancient holy texts,
even before Sumerian Cuniform and Arcadian texts.

Ever heard of Sir Fred Hoyle, or Grote Freeber (BOTH on my hero
list, i.e., prominant cosmologists that agree with my views of
the universe).  Hoyle is the one that came up with Panspermia
Thesis, and the 20th century's version of Static Universe late
last century, (i.e., the real deal), and Grote is the "father of
radio telemetry" (i.e., invented radio telescopes, currently
biulding the largerst antenna array in the world down under), and
has almost single handedly advanced Hoyle's model of The Static
Universe to account for ALL modern finds in cosmology, i.e., he
was intigral to the confirmation of quasars, and is a quasar
expert.

Not only is most "New Age" stuff based on what all ancient holy
texts before the Common Era advance, Hoyle's and Freeber's modern
cosmological theories seem to be *exactly* what ALL ancient texts
that I am aware of seem to be talking about, i.e., BIG BANG IS
WRONG, and "Evolution" (with a cap E) is also WRONG, like a big
dawg.

In other words, "New Age science," currnent trends in modern
science (from cosmology to geopaleoarcheology), and ancient texts
seem to me to suggest that our evolution from basic life forms to
advanced intelligent beings DID NOT occur *without* intervention.


FYI:

panspermia

panspermia, noun

The theory that microorganisms or biochemical compounds from
outer space are responsible for originating life on Earth and
possibly in other parts of the universe where suitable
atmospheric conditions exist.

[Greek, mixture of all seeds : pan-, pan- + sperma, seed. See
sperm1.]

Excerpted from The American Heritage Dictionary of the English
Language, Third Edition   1996 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Electronic version licensed from INSO Corporation; further
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[CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth

1999-09-21 Thread earthman

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Can anyone help me with this. I posted on a list that the origins of life on
earth came from outer space. I read it somewhere on the web or email and it
is has  a specific name. I have been trying to find where I filed it and it
is driving me crazy. Can anyone remember what it is called or where a site
is that has this..
I knew I would get a bite re the post and I don't want to lose the fish.
Peter.

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Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth

1999-09-21 Thread Bill

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 The first time I saw that proposition was in a book
called Magic Mushroom Cultivation...one of the first
written, from the seventies...it told first person, from a
mycelial networks point of view, of the code it carries from
planet to planet via fungus spores.
 This idea has since been propounded enormously and that
is a good thingthe coverings of fungus spores, which are
microscopic, are made of the hardest biological material
knownit is supposed these vastly miniature seeds, each
carrying within itself 90% of the DNA of everything alive
here today, can even withstand even the rigors of
space...they of course migrate through the atmosphere, and
some even get out of the atmosphere, to be blown along by
the slight but extremely persistent solar windand
awy we go...there is one mycelial growth out west
that covers many hundreds of acres, all underground of
course, and has been estimated at 1500 years old I think

earthman wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 Can anyone help me with this. I posted on a list that the origins of life on
 earth came from outer space. I read it somewhere on the web or email and it
 is has  a specific name. I have been trying to find where I filed it and it
 is driving me crazy. Can anyone remember what it is called or where a site
 is that has this..
 I knew I would get a bite re the post and I don't want to lose the fish.
 Peter.

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