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> September 3, 1999
> >
> 1. Texas Radio Buff: About Two Dozen NATO Aircraft Shot Down by the
> Serbs; Chinese Embassy Deliberately Hit
>
> PHOENIX, Sept. 3 - Many people would like to eavesdrop, but few know
> how to do it legally and professionally.  Steve Douglas of Ben Hur,
> Texas, is one of few.  Nor does he eavesdrop on something as trivial
> as domestic squabbles.  Unless, of course, they happen to take place
> on Air Force One (the U.S. President's official airplane).
>
> "It's amazing how many (U.S. government) communications are not
> encrypted, even on Air Force One," Douglas told Jeff Rense on Aug. 16,
> a host of a popular Internet Radio show which airs daily at the
> Sightings Radio Web site.
>
> What attracted our attention to Steve Douglas, however (thanks to a
> heads-up we got from a TiM reader in the U.K.), was that he also
> eavesdrops (literally and legally) to many unencrypted U.S. military
> messages.  Such as those exchanges during NATO's war on Serbia, for
> example, when many communications between the NATO pilots and command
> and control centers were not encrypted, due to a lack of sufficient
> number of encryption devices, according to Douglas.
>
> So what valuable "intel" did Douglas pick up from all this
> eavesdropping to be invited as a guest on the Jeff Rense radio show?
> How about that at least 22 NATO fixed wing air craft were shot down by
> the Serb defense, about 10 of those U.S. planes.  And that the bombing
> of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade was no accident, as the Clinton
> administration claimed.  News doesn't get more bombastic than that,
> does it, especially at a time of universal deceit which the
> Washington-Brussels-London "lie and deny" PR and military crowd
> practiced during the war.
>
> So now not only has the "Venik" Web site, and our other sources inside
> Serbia, corroborated some of the Yugoslav military claims about the
> large numbers of downed NATO aircraft (see S99-141, "Peacefarce" 35,
> Item 2, Aug. 26 and S99-139, "Peacefarce" 33, Item 2, Aug. 24) now we
> have someone right here in the United States, saying the Clinton's
> White House, the Pentagon's and NATO's claims about having lost only
> one (F-117A) "stealth" jet, are just plain bunk.
>
> But not only was Douglas careful not to use that term ("bunk"), he
> sounded downright nervous and reluctant to divulge much when
> questioned about the details by the radio show host, Jeff Rense.
> Having said that he realized the "caveat" (i.e., probably the pre-show
> agreement between the two?) - that Douglas wasn't going to disclose
> more than you feel is warranted" (to stay alive?) - Rense nevertheless
> pressed Douglas about the loss of American lives with all these lost
> aircraft.  Especially when NATO rescue helicopters were also shot down
> by the Yugoslav military, as some of our Serb sources had claimed
> throughout the war (see S99-08, Day 4, Update 2, Item 2, Mar. 27;
> S99-22, Day 10, Update 1, Apr. 2; and S99-29, Day 13, Update 2, Item
> 1, Apr. 5 for some such examples).
>
> Douglas said he'd heard the same "rumors," but did not know much more
> than that.  He sounded scared when he said that.  But he did say that
> he'd heard about a loss of at least one "Blackhawk" helicopter.
>
> But don't take our word for it.  Judge Steve Douglas' testimony for
> yourself at the Sightings Radio Web site -
> http://www.broadcast.com/shows/endoftheline/99archives.stm, or go
> directly to the audio file -
> http://www.audionet.com/shows/endoftheline/9908/end0816.ram, provided
> to us by our U.K. source.  The relevant discussion takes place at
> about the 2:15:00 mark of this audio file.
>
> As for the Chinese Embassy story, fast-forward to about 2:44:00 mark
> of the Jeff Rense show audio file.  "It was no accident.  They knew
> what they were hitting," Douglas said of the B-2 bomber strike just
> before midnight on May 7 (see S99-71, Day 47, Item 1, May 8).
>
> In other words, Douglas' eavesdropping seems to confirm what the
> Chinese have thought all along - that it was a deliberate strike.  And
> his listening in on the U.S. military communications debunks another
> set of lies, denials and official apologies to the Chinese by the
> Clinton administration officials, starting with the President (also
> see "Who Lost China?" - TiM GW Bulletin 98/8-3, Aug. 16 -
> http://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins99/tim99-8-3.html).
>
> Now, whichever side of this issue you've been on till now (we've been
> leaning, for example, toward the "accident" theory), see the key
> missing element was the motive.  Douglas provides it in the interview.
>  "The Chinese 'stealth' (aircraft) expert was in the country," he
> opined.  And as well all know, after one huge embarrassment of having
> one of its "untouchable" aircraft scattered all over Serb farmers'
> fields on Mar. 27 (see S99-143, "Peacefarce" 37, Item 1, Aug. 30 -
> http://www.truthinmedia.org/Kosovo/Peace/ps37.html), the "omnipotent"
> NATO and the Pentagon military leaders could ill afford another such
> incident.
>
> So did they succeed ?(in killing the alleged Chinese "stealth"
> expert), Rense inquired.
>
> "I don't know," replied Douglas.
>
> Which was another copout answer.  Because the identities of the
> Chinese victims are well known (see S99-72, Day 48, Item 1, May 10).
>
> Anyway, Steve Douglas makes interesting gab.  Especially when he is
> sounding scared and reluctant.  You can also find out more about his
> professional electronic eavesdropping at his Web site -
> http://www.benhurtradingco.com/titlepage.html. -------------
>
> 2. An Angry Scotsman: 200 Albanian Dead, Not 10,000 or 100,000!
>
> SCOTLAND, Sept. 2 - We received today the following letter from M.
> Harrison, a TiM reader from Scotland.  No editorial comment is needed:
>
> "After weeks of trawling through the various web sites of NATO and the
> UK Foreign Office, I have finally found actual quantifiable casualty
> figures for the number of Kosovo Albanians allegedly murdered during
> the period of the NATO attacks on Yugoslavia. Not the ridiculous
> figures of 100,000 or even 10,000.
>
> 200 dead! That's right, 200! Words cannot express the anger and
> bitterness I feel towards my government's lies and treachery right
> now.
>
> This figure is only a tenth of the Serbian civilian casualties of
> NATO. It is less than those Albanians killed by NATO's cluster bombs
> during (and after) the war. It even less than those Serbs killed since
> NATO occupied Serbia's Kosovo province!
>
> Finally, I would just like to say that in all likelihood these figures
> are also suspect. Some of these dead may yet turn out to be Serbs or
> from another non-Albanian ethnic group."
>
> A very angry Scotsman
> (the writer's own signature line)
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