Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] THE NEA'S GRAB-BAG OF ISSUES]
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/5/99 5:43:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, Sir, you sure did identify yourself properly Each of the proposals is increased "people control" by a central government. You'd have loved Russia under Stalin. Well, I guess even Joe had a few good ideas. I think it was his tendency to send everybody to Siberia or keep them under constant surveillance that were his worst sticking points. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] THE NEA'S GRAB-BAG OF ISSUES
-Caveat Lector- Hawk wrote: -Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- What's wrong with adopting a national energy policy? I think it's a sane thing to do, especially since the end of the world's oil supply is looming on the millennial horizon. What a crock! The world is awash with oil! Seems like some folks once said the same thing about the demise of the world's whale-oil supply. Central controls isn't the answer... FREEDOM to get rich by taking big chances is the answer, just as it was then. Hawk Freedom! I knew it all along. The only freedom you are interested in is the freedom to make money any way you can. You are a truly despicable character. Luckily you can be easily dealt with. I am working (with others on a different list) on a plan to establish a cap on wealth accumulation by individuals. The intent is to keep guys like you spinning your wheels without actually becoming dangerous through the accumulation of vast wealth. The one thing that all the manipulators of all modern societies have in common is owning, or working for someone who owns vast wealth. They stand in the way of human progress, health, and happiness. They have been the causes of war and poverty, and slavery all the way back to the dawn of agriculture. The rich elites are greedy, incompetent, and generally stupid when it comes to social management. They can't manage anything well for long without the threat of force. Their economic system is collapsing all around them and new organic systems will grow in their place. Capitalism will be strictly controlled almost everywhere. Free trade is being dismantled as we speak. All this because of guys like you. You were born in the wrong era. Just thought you would like to know. Have a nice day. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] THE NEA'S GRAB-BAG OF ISSUES
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/5/99 9:17:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What a crock! The world is awash with oil! Seems like some folks once said the same thing about the demise of the world's whale-oil supply. Central controls isn't the answer... FREEDOM to get rich by taking big chances is the answer, just as it was then. You're right. But if we actually had a sane energy policy, it could move us away from oil into solar. Not that it's likely to do so, since freedom to get rich (now that's a goal) is the way it's been for quite some time, and they haven't figured out how to regulate old Sol just yet. Prudy If someone could figure out a way to get a bit more energy out of a solar cell or a better method of storing energy then the batteries we now use, they could make a fortune. And, any one who invested in them would also. There is no need to regulate the sun for that purpose. best wishes, Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] THE NEA'S GRAB-BAG OF ISSUES
-Caveat Lector- At 10:56 AM 1/6/99 -0800, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- Hawk wrote: -Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- What's wrong with adopting a national energy policy? I think it's a sane thing to do, especially since the end of the world's oil supply is looming on the millennial horizon. What a crock! The world is awash with oil! Seems like some folks once said the same thing about the demise of the world's whale-oil supply. Central controls isn't the answer... FREEDOM to get rich by taking big chances is the answer, just as it was then. Hawk Freedom! I knew it all along. The only freedom you are interested in is the freedom to make money any way you can. You are a truly despicable character. Luckily you can be easily dealt with. I am working (with others on a different list) on a plan to establish a cap on wealth accumulation by individuals. The intent is to keep guys like you spinning your wheels without actually becoming dangerous through the accumulation of vast wealth. The one thing that all the manipulators of all modern societies have in common is owning, or working for someone who owns vast wealth. They stand in the way of human progress, health, and happiness. They have been the causes of war and poverty, and slavery all the way back to the dawn of agriculture. The rich elites are greedy, incompetent, and generally stupid when it comes to social management. They can't manage anything well for long without the threat of force. Their economic system is collapsing all around them and new organic systems will grow in their place. Capitalism will be strictly controlled almost everywhere. Free trade is being dismantled as we speak. All this because of guys like you. You were born in the wrong era. Just thought you would like to know. Have a nice day. Joshua2 And in your socialist/communist utopia there will be no elite? Barb DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] THE NEA'S GRAB-BAG OF ISSUES]
-Caveat Lector- Carl Amedio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- THE NEA'S GRAB-BAG OF ISSUES snip Here is a brief profile of its interests: o It wants the U.S. to nationalize health care, start a nuclear freeze, adopt national energy policies and pass more gun-control laws. o At its 1998 convention, the NEA passed resolutions denouncing school vouchers and opposing home schooling -- and it has taken stands against testing of teachers. o It believes environmental education should encourage "protection of the Earth's finite resources" and raise awareness of overpopulation, "global warming, ozone depletion and acid precipitation." o It claims that all people have a right to housing and health insurance at taxpayers' expense, and would use money saved from any reductions in the defense budget for "alternative civilian uses, including education" -- rather than for tax cuts. snip Sounds good to me... Honestly, I'd vote for any candidate who ran on these points as a platform! If that makes me a Socialist or Communist or something, so be it...but these points make a *hell* of a lot more sense than the crap spewed forth by the Republicrats and Demipublicans. And if the NEA has the funds to pay to elect people who will actually do something *for* the citizens of this country instead of *to* us, then more power to them... Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] THE NEA'S GRAB-BAG OF ISSUES]
-Caveat Lector- Robert Tatman wrote: THE NEA'S GRAB-BAG OF ISSUES snip Here is a brief profile of its interests: snip Sounds good to me... Honestly, I'd vote for any candidate who ran on these points as a platform! If that makes me a Socialist or Communist or something, so be it... Well, Sir, you sure did identify yourself properly Each of the proposals is increased "people control" by a central government. You'd have loved Russia under Stalin. but these points make a *hell* of a lot more sense than the crap spewed forth by the Republicrats and Demipublicans. Actually, its the same "crap." And if the NEA has the funds to pay to elect people who will actually do something *for* the citizens of this country instead of *to* us, then more power to them... They cannot do something FOR "us" without first doing something TO "us." Just keep that in mind when you're begging them to do it "to others" in favor of your crowd.. There's always a different crowd begging them to do something "to you" for their benefit Its really pretty simple. It boils down to "There ain't no free lunch." Somebody has to pay for all the "goodies" other people get. Whenever ANYONE gets "something for nothing," someone else got "Nothing for something." Hawk DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] THE NEA'S GRAB-BAG OF ISSUES
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- What's wrong with adopting a national energy policy? I think it's a sane thing to do, especially since the end of the world's oil supply is looming on the millennial horizon. What a crock! The world is awash with oil! Seems like some folks once said the same thing about the demise of the world's whale-oil supply. Central controls isn't the answer... FREEDOM to get rich by taking big chances is the answer, just as it was then. Hawk DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] THE NEA'S GRAB-BAG OF ISSUES
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/5/99 4:19:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: o It wants the U.S. to nationalize health care, start a nuclear freeze, adopt national energy policies and pass more gun-control laws. Run in circles, scream and shout. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om