Re: [CTRL] The Neocons Their Lies - The Man Behind The Curtain: Bill Kristol
-Caveat Lector- -Caveat Lector- More sensible than prematurely denying Iraqs weapons of mass destruction and calling Bush/NeoCons liars as Max Shpak does in the following article would be to ask if Iraqs weapons of mass destruction are now in the hands of Syria, Iran, and Terrorists BECAUSE of the US invasion of Iraq! After all, Iraq was known to have various wmds in the past and strenuously resisted inspections to destroy them in the past. It looks to me like the Bush Administration is setting-up the peace crowd to look foolish when the truth is revealed or manipulated nearer the election. Clearly, Iran has learned from the experience of Iraq and Korea that weapons of mass destruction, in place and ready to fire, are the only means to prevent a regime change attack by the United States. Clearly, the United States must oust these so called rogue regimes BEFORE the nuclear, gas, and germ options are in place ready to go if Israels future is to be assured. Thus, it would behoove the US to exaggerate the immediacy of the wmd threat, but the US would have little need to exaggerate the threat itself. The Muslim hard liners really DO HATE Israel and its sponsor the US. The Islamists really do want to destroy Israel and the United States! They really do want and are attempting to obtain weapons of mass destruction toward that end! Should the Islamist fail to obtain workable wmds, Israel and the US will gradually or not so gradually destroy Islam! Peace activists OUGHT to be pointing-out that we are fast approaching the point where the SUN NEVER SETS ON AN AMERICAN DYING FOR THE JUDEO-MASONIC-ZIONIST-ANGLOPHILE Empire! Peace activists ought to start arguing about details manipulated in the mass media and question the big picture . . . and propose the alternative: the much discredited ISOLATIONISM of Americas past! Lloyd Miller, a-albioic.com -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Shannon Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 3:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] The Neocons Their Lies - The Man Behind The Curtain: Bill Kristol http://www.etherzone.com/2003/shpa062003.shtml THE NEOCONS AND THEIR LIES THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN - BILL KRISTOL By: Max Shpak It should come as little surprise that weeks after a war that was sold to the public on the grounds that proponents of the war knew that Saddam Hussein had Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMDs), they are nowhere to be found. Because the self-styled Mideast warriors at various neoconservative propaganda rags assured the public that there was indeed hard evidence of these WMDs existence, common sense implies that they, or at least their sources, knew where they were and would surely be able to find them well over a month after the invasion. The fact that nobody is able to do so now proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the neocons were then as throughout their shady careers feeding lies to the American public. When it comes to the countless overblown claims made by the neocons to propagandize their war against Iraq, it should come as no surprise that the Emperor has no clothes. The neoconservative litany of lies and distortions over the past few years contains enough material to fill several encyclopedic volumes (perhaps one day such a set of volumes will be published as a how too guide for the self-styled Ilya Ehrenburgs of the future). Elsewhere I have discussed some of the past hypocrisy, rhetorical sleights-of-hand, half-truths, and outright lies that have surrounded other neoconservative crusades, from the first Gulf War to Kosovo to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I have also discussed the fact that the public, and for that matter much of the self-congratulatory watchdog media, are utterly numb to the fact that neoconservatives habitually lie. Indeed, the mass media organs and their eager viewers still seem ever ready to swallow the newest batch of swill produced by the Kristols and Frums of the world without the slightest hindsight or concern about their past deceptions. Where the neoconservative program of deceit has taken a new and interesting angle this time around is the way in which they are handling the (minimal) extent of discussion and revelation surrounding their nonexistent evidence for Husseins WMDs. Knowing perfectly well that they were the agent provocateurs behind these claims, the neocons have quickly moved to cover their flank by effectively pinning whatever blame there might be on those they swindled. Its a strategy all shysters use: find a willing dupe and junior partner for your scam, and then when the effort fails, pin all of the blame on unwitting assistant. In his effort to nip any criticism of WMD lies at the bud, William Kristol began his self-exculpatory memo with the claim We shouldn't deny, those of us who were hawks, that there could have been misstatements made, I think in good faith, Weekly Standard editor Bill
[CTRL] The Neocons Their Lies - The Man Behind The Curtain: Bill Kristol
-Caveat Lector- http://www.etherzone.com/2003/shpa062003.shtml THE NEOCONS AND THEIR LIES THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN - BILL KRISTOL By: Max Shpak It should come as little surprise that weeks after a war that was sold to the public on the grounds that proponents of the war "knew" that Saddam Hussein had Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMDs), they are nowhere to be found. Because the self-styled Mideast warriors at various neoconservative propaganda rags assured the public that there was indeed hard evidence of these WMDs existence, common sense implies that they, or at least their sources, knew where they were and would surely be able to find them well over a month after the invasion. The fact that nobody is able to do so now proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the neocons were then as throughout their shady careers feeding lies to the American public. When it comes to the countless overblown claims made by the neocons to propagandize their war against Iraq, it should come as no surprise that the Emperor has no clothes. The neoconservative litany of lies and distortions over the past few years contains enough material to fill several encyclopedic volumes (perhaps one day such a set of volumes will be published as a "how too" guide for the self-styled Ilya Ehrenburgs of the future). Elsewhere I have discussed some of the past hypocrisy, rhetorical sleights-of-hand, half-truths, and outright lies that have surrounded other neoconservative crusades, from the first Gulf War to Kosovo to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I have also discussed the fact that the public, and for that matter much of the self-congratulatory "watchdog" media, are utterly numb to the fact that neoconservatives habitually lie. Indeed, the mass media organs and their eager viewers still seem ever ready to swallow the newest batch of swill produced by the Kristols and Frums of the world without the slightest hindsight or concern about their past deceptions. Where the neoconservative program of deceit has taken a new and interesting angle this time around is the way in which they are handling the (minimal) extent of discussion and revelation surrounding their nonexistent "evidence" for Husseins WMDs. Knowing perfectly well that they were the agent provocateurs behind these claims, the neocons have quickly moved to cover their flank by effectively pinning whatever blame there might be on those they swindled. Its a strategy all shysters use: find a willing dupe and junior partner for your scam, and then when the effort fails, pin all of the blame on unwitting assistant. In his effort to nip any criticism of WMD lies at the bud, William Kristol began his self-exculpatory memo with the claim "We shouldn't deny, those of us who were hawks, that there could have been misstatements made, I think in good faith," Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol told "Fox News Sunday. Asked, by whom, the leading Iraq war backer explained, "By the president and the secretary of state, [statements] that will turn out to be erroneous." Ignoring for the moment that Kristol, true to form, uses the euphemism "misstatement" for what most normal people refer to as a "lie," and the fact that he assures us that his lies (oh, pardon, misstatements) are in "good faith," there is nothing new or surprising about the first part of the statement. This is the same tactic Kristol and all of his chattering disciples have been using for decades. The second (bold) portion of the statement is the more interesting and unprecedented part. In a less than subtle manner, Kristol fingers the blame for the "misstatements" on Bush and Powell, when in fact Bush and Powell were simply reading from scripts created for them by individuals such as Kristol himself and his cabal of White House insiders such as Paul Wolfowitz. Along the same line, Kristol also informs us, "People like me, who were hawks, said the war was both just, prudent and urgent," he said. "I think just and prudent - fine. But it is fair to say that if we don't find serious weapons of mass destruction capabilities, the case for urgency, which Bush and Blair certainly articulated, is going to be undercut to some degree." Now just a moment, Billy. Do you mean to tell us that it was only Bush and Blair who "articulated" claims about Husseins WMD capacities, or rather, made "misstatements" about it to project a sense of "urgency" when there was simply no foundation for any of it? Are you implying that these "misstatements" made in the name of "urgency" originated de novo in the minds of Blair, Bush, and Powell? Surely they didnt. In fact, all examination of the neoconservative propaganda mill in the months preceding Bush or Powells call to war tells us that these claims found their beginnings in the scribblings of neoconservative pundits and the babbling of neocon talking heads on major network television. If Bush or Colin Powell (the second of which was mercilessly chastised by neocon warmongers for not playing along
