Re: [CTRL] The real jfk jr. problem
-Caveat Lector- Das GOAT does it again! Television has become the greatest tool of warfare in the history of the world. Warfare perpetrated by a government with global aspirations on The People. The secrets gleaned by the American and European industrialist sponsors of Nazi Germany were directly applied to pop media as a means to control...It is Psychological Warfare in no uncertain terms. It is very easy to see when one removes ones self from its influence. Das GOAT wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-07-18 16:24:35 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: we have overlooked the fact that a human being is dead! Whether you liked him or not, republican or democrat, illuminati or Freemason, a human has died, we should at least show some sympathy to the families. I have sympathy for his family, yes, but no more sympathy than for the family of any ORDINARY human being who has died a tragic death. What I strongly object to, and what subtracts from such sympathy, is this current trend in America toward granting "supernatural" status to the media-celebrity class, which includes political celebrities. Already, as earlier seen in the response to the death of Princess Diana, the media are granting JFK Jr some kind of imaginary divinity through class attribution of "royalty," calling him "the American Prince." (A male counterpart of the "Martyred Princess.") Apparently the mass-media now have a monopoly on conditions in the afterlife and, as the Church once did, has arrogated to itself the power to create saints and deities at whim, subject to its OWN criteria -- which, in America, are usually beauty, wealth, or power -- superficial qualities and qualities which undermine any true sense of values. To base a "morality" on such things, and manipulate our sympathies (admiration or sense of loss, by which our attachment to what is VALUED is measured) in a patently "religious" way, is appalling. All our real WORSHIP is in the TV Church of the Image. Whether or not one is visible in the media is now the only standard of personal worth. Alive, JFK Jr was a real human being, with good and bad qualities, like everyone else. Dead now, his image has been co-opted by the media manufacturers of MYTH -- he is no longer REAL. Our (bogus) feelings now toward him --a STRANGER to us even now, a human being most of us have never met or known-- are therefore equally UNREAL. Save your feelings for persons you have contact with and have interacted with, face to face -- otherwise those so-called "feelings" are no more genuine than those of a pimply youth masturbating to a foldout in Playboy. Harsh? Necessarily so, in the US, where we treat REAL human beings as useless "things," while responding to mere IMAGES as if more "real," more emotionally moving, more evocative of admiration or contempt. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [CTRL] The real jfk jr. problem
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-07-18 16:24:35 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: we have overlooked the fact that a human being is dead! Whether you liked him or not, republican or democrat, illuminati or Freemason, a human has died, we should at least show some sympathy to the families. I have sympathy for his family, yes, but no more sympathy than for the family of any ORDINARY human being who has died a tragic death. What I strongly object to, and what subtracts from such sympathy, is this current trend in America toward granting "supernatural" status to the media-celebrity class, which includes political celebrities. Already, as earlier seen in the response to the death of Princess Diana, the media are granting JFK Jr some kind of imaginary divinity through class attribution of "royalty," calling him "the American Prince." (A male counterpart of the "Martyred Princess.") Apparently the mass-media now have a monopoly on conditions in the afterlife and, as the Church once did, has arrogated to itself the power to create saints and deities at whim, subject to its OWN criteria -- which, in America, are usually beauty, wealth, or power -- superficial qualities and qualities which undermine any true sense of values. To base a "morality" on such things, and manipulate our sympathies (admiration or sense of loss, by which our attachment to what is VALUED is measured) in a patently "religious" way, is appalling. All our real WORSHIP is in the TV Church of the Image. Whether or not one is visible in the media is now the only standard of personal worth. Alive, JFK Jr was a real human being, with good and bad qualities, like everyone else. Dead now, his image has been co-opted by the media manufacturers of MYTH -- he is no longer REAL. Our (bogus) feelings now toward him --a STRANGER to us even now, a human being most of us have never met or known-- are therefore equally UNREAL. Save your feelings for persons you have contact with and have interacted with, face to face -- otherwise those so-called "feelings" are no more genuine than those of a pimply youth masturbating to a foldout in Playboy. Harsh? Necessarily so, in the US, where we treat REAL human beings as useless "things," while responding to mere IMAGES as if more "real," more emotionally moving, more evocative of admiration or contempt. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The real jfk jr. problem
-Caveat Lector- You know, I don't respond much to these, but with the recent events, I feel a need to. Granted, I am a firm believer that there is DEFINITELY a conspiracy there! But the real thing we have all missed, We take for granted the amount of possible conspiracy perpetrators, we have overlooked the fact that a human being is dead! Whether you liked him or not, republican or democrat, illuminati or Freemason, a human has died, we should at least show some sympathy to the families. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The real jfk jr. problem
-Caveat Lector- DIG- I think all of us DO have sympathy for the family. Some of us have been around long enough to remember mourning for other Kennedys (JFK and Bobby). At least, I was around back then...along with good old goat. On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, DIG Anonymous wrote: -Caveat Lector- You know, I don't respond much to these, but with the recent events, I feel a need to. Granted, I am a firm believer that there is DEFINITELY a conspiracy there! But the real thing we have all missed, We take for granted the amount of possible conspiracy perpetrators, we have overlooked the fact that a human being is dead! Whether you liked him or not, republican or democrat, illuminati or Freemason, a human has died, we should at least show some sympathy to the families. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The real jfk jr. problem
-Caveat Lector- While I sympathize with the families in their worry about their loved ones, I will not speak of JFK Jr or the Bessette women in the past tense until I have received confirmation of their deaths. As of 10:05pm EDT, Sunday, July 18, 1999, I have not yet received that word. Tenorlove --- DIG Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- You know, I don't respond much to these, but with the recent events, I feel a need to. Granted, I am a firm believer that there is DEFINITELY a conspiracy there! But the real thing we have all missed, We take for granted the amount of possible conspiracy perpetrators, we have overlooked the fact that a human being is dead! Whether you liked him or not, republican or democrat, illuminati or Freemason, a human has died, we should at least show some sympathy to the families. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
