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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:21:49 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [SUPERWHITE-SUPREMIST] Re: [METAPHYSICS-100] israelite Who was
Paul referring to as "born oftheflesh" in Galatians 4:23?
I did finish it. We ARE spirit ... not matter, eg genes. We POSSESS
bodies. Electric Abacus? "The ghost in the machine". What does it mean
that Jesus Christ, an Israelite and MORE, ie a SUPERWHITE SUPREMIST, "gave
up the Ghost"?
Did He give up His white genes?
Z
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Citizens for the "inherent dignity and worth of the human person"
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Israelite Knight wrote:
> You need to finish the equation:
>
> An Israelite = spirit [read: IS spirit]
>
> An Ishmaelite = flesh [read: IS flesh]
>
> This is FROM Paul's allegory. But this is the FACTUAL part of the allegory, as
> confirmed in the "Old Testament", not the allegorical part itself.
>
> Tell us, POS, what that "Electric Abacus" of yours "think" Paul's allegory actually
> is?
>
> John Knight
>
>
>
>
> ps--we do know that there are other contexts of "spirit" where it's NOT a reference
> to "an Israelite" (like when it's a reference to ghosts). We also know that there
> are other contexts where it's a reference to a *TRAIT* of an Israelite (like when an
> Israelite is filled with "the spirit"). But in the above context, "an Israelite" IS
> "spirit", so it cannot mean "ghost", and it cannot be a reference to any of his
> traits.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Party of Citizens
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 2:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [METAPHYSICS-100] israelite Who was Paul referring to as "born
> oftheflesh" in Galatians 4:23?
>
>
> Here we go flunking Aristotelean Logic 100 again. A=A; B=B. Period. It's a great
> binary system of maths-logic and that is what my "Electric Abacus" paper (soon to be
> released says). Who expressed this kind of mental clarity with, "Let your yeahs be
> yeah and your nays be nay", adding that doing any more comes from evil.
>
> Spirit = Spirit
>
> Flesh = Flesh
>
> s does not equal fc2
>
> even if the genes of that flesh are snow white.
>
> OTOH, e = kc2!
>
> Z
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Israelite Knight
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 10:36 AM
> Subject: [METAPHYSICS-100] israelite Who was Paul referring to as "born
> oftheflesh" in Galatians 4:23?
>
>
> Man, major silence?
>
> Is nobody replying because they disagree? Or should the question be re-stated?
>
> Let's try it this way. Let's PRESUME that the phraseology, punctuation, subject
> and verb ordering, etc., of John 3:6 "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and
> that which is born of the Spirit is spirit" is accurate (as every translator who has
> ever touched it agrees).
>
> In that eventuality, and in this context (and perhaps ONLY this one context),
> something can NOT be "OF the spirit" if it "IS spirit", right?
>
> This is not to say that in a different context in a different verse that it CAN
> also mean something very different. But right here, dealing directly with two words
> spoken by Jesus Himself, it CANNOT mean anything else, right? Let's pay very close
> attention to what Jesus MEANT by these two simple words.
>
> WHO "IS SPIRIT" IN THIS CONTEXT?
>
> Genetic descendants of Jacob/Israel!
>
> Do they "have" spirit? NO.
>
> Can they "become" spirit" NO.
>
> Can their spirit be "increased", "fulfilled", "enhanced", or otherwise changed?
> NO.
>
> IS SPIRIT A MENTAL CONDITION? NO, IT'S A GENEALOGICAL CONDITION.
>
> Can a non-Isralite become spirit? NO.
>
> Can an Israelite become non-spirit? NO.
>
> Can an Israelite reject or blaspheme spirit? Yes--by mixing the holy seed with
> the people of the land [read: any non-Israelite].
>
> Does that make him non-spirit? NO. It only means that his genetic descendants
> are not spirit.
>
> Did Jesus agree with Nicodemus when he asked "can a man be born again when he is
> old"? NO. In no uncertain terms, Jesus' reply was essentially "no, you stupid
> Pharisee, muds cannot be spirit because muds are born of the flesh and can never be
> spirit". Did Nicodemus ever comprehend His explanation? If he was an Israelite, he
> did. If he was a mud, he at least pretended that he didn't, to the day he died
> (just like jews today do).
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> John Knight
>
>
>
>
> http://christianparty.net/flesh.htm
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: White Christian Israelite Forum
> To: israelites List Member
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 10:04 AM
> Subject: [israelites] Who was Paul referring to as "born oftheflesh" in
> Galatians 4:23? {06}
>
>
> Dear Arnold,
>
> I'm going to reply to the rest of your excellent points in a separate email,
> but it's really important for you answer (or perhaps at least understand) the
> original question first.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: aekennedy
> To: Israelite Knight
> Cc: Alex Donovan ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Chief ; Columbus Marcum
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 1:59 PM
> Subject: (Archive Copy) [Israelite (Moderated)] israelites Who was Paul
> referring to as "born oftheflesh" in Galatians 4:23? {05}
>
> Arnold Wrote:
> Now if you apply this to what you said about being partly pregnant, your
> argument does not match. A sperm has the potential to make a woman pregnant, but
> pregnancy only occurs on contact. It is a case of "no contact - no pregnancy" and
> also then one of "no regeneration - no light". Similarly, those with no "spirit"
> to start with cannot get lit up just as those with no sperm can never create
> pregnancy.
>
>
> John Replied:
> Unfortunately, this ignores the original question, which is whether or not you
> believe Paul's allegory DOES equate spirit to Jacob's seedline. As pointed out
> before, there may be other contexts of "spirit" which fit the above scenarios.
> Let's set them aside for just an instant and focus only on this defintion Paul
> provides of "spirit" in his allegory.
>
> Arnold replied:
> MY COMMENTS ABOUT A "LIGHTED" SPIRIT AND AN UNLIT UNREGENERATED SPIRIT APPLY.
> BOTH MAY BE FOUND IN JACOB'S SEEDLINE. OTHER RACES DO NOT HAVE THE "HEARING"
> CAPACITY THAT ALL ISRAELITES HAVE, BUT ALL ISREALITES DO NOT CHOOSE TO DO ANYTHING
> ABOUT WHAT THEY HEAR. THEY DO NOT ALL HAVE THE GOSPEL PROCLAIMED TO THEM, DO THEY?
>
> John Asked:
> Do you believe there's ever an instance of the Greek word "pneuma" in the Holy
> Bible where it's (NOT) a direct reference to Jacob's seedline, and not a reference
> to something with "potential" that can be "realized?
>
> Arnold replied:
> PROBABLY NOT, BUT THE POTENTIAL IS IN JACOB'S SEEDLINE ONLY, BUT NOT ALL
> "REPENT AND BELIEVE THE GOSPEL". YOU SEEM TO BELIEVE IN A CORPORATE SALVATION FOR
> ALL ISRAELITES, EVEN FOR ISRAELITE UNBELIEVERS, POSSIBLY IN THE SAME WAY THE JEWS
> BELIEVE THEY ALL TOGETHER ARE THE CORPORATE MESSIAH.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> John is now replying:
>
> I don't believe, Arnold, that you understood the question. Rather than a
> direct answer, you inserted "not" where it doesn't belong, repeated what you said
> before (using different words, but the same argument), and effectively sidestepped
> this crucial question again.
>
> Let's reduce it to a "yes" or "no" question: "Do you believe there's ever an
> instance of the Greek word "pneuma" in the Holy Bible where it's ONLY a direct
> reference to Jacob's seedline, and nothing else (not even "potential", something
> that can be "realized", "intelligence", "mentality", "state of mind", "regenerated",
> or "salvation")?"
>
> Put another way (but after you've provided a "yes" or "no" answer to the above
> question), which of the following do you believe is correct?:
>
> A) Paul DID use the word "spirit" to refer only to the genetic seedline of
> Jacob rather than the state of mind or forgiveness or salvation or regeneration of
> that genetic seedline of Jacob?
>
> B) Paul NEVER used the word "spirit" to refer only to the genetic seedline of
> Jacob and instead always used it as a reference to a particular quality of the
> genetic seedline of Jacob?
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> John Knight
>
>
> =================================
> Please excuse the double posting if you got this twice
>
>
> What should a Canada which is by Constitution "founded upon principles that
> recognize the supremacy of God" be like?
>
>
>
>
> What should a Canada which is by Constitution "founded upon principles that
> recognize the supremacy of God" be like?
>
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