Re: [CTRL] 911 - The Israeli Connection (Neil Mackay)
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- This is an interesting Israeli spin on Urban Moving Systems that you serve up. A few questions: 1. Why did these Israelis, some of whom were Mossad operatives, celebrate the destruction of the WTC? 2. Why have the American media gone out of their way to censor this incident and brutally attacked any public figure, like Amiri Baraka, who even dares to mention it? 3. Isn't it true that Israel in the past has staged terrorist incidents against the United States, with the aim provoking American hostility towards Israel's Arab and Muslim adversaries? 4. Why haven't we seen the video that was taken by these Israeli agents? Wouldn't it be of enormous public interest? 5. Why did the owner of Urban Moving Systems rush back to Israel so quickly? 6. Why was an Israeli spy ring operating in such close proximity to the hijackers in Florida before the attack? 7. Why have the American media failed to pursue the story that advance warning of the attack was transmitted on the Israeli Internet company Odigo? 8. Why did only one Israeli die in the WTC on 9/11? Why did George W. Bush claim that more than 100 Israelis were killed? Why is it that whenever this subject comes up propagandists for Israel dishonestly and manipulatively substitute the word "Jews" for "Israelis"? - Original Message - From: Zuukie To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] 911 - The Israeli Connection (Neil Mackay) -Caveat Lector- Reports indicate that American intelligence had information about the pending attacks but the bureaucratic establishment kept the information from going thru. It is very possible that the Israelis knew of the impending disaster but were unable to get the information into hands that could take action against it. It's a pity that the Israelis don't trust the US and feel the need to do their own surveillance, but many in this country don't trust our government either. My guess is that the US has moles in many country including Israel. Those of us who read these message boards across the net are like archeologists who are picking thru the remains to try and understand what is happening in the culture at levels that are not open to us. How strange it is that we can't understand what is happening at the local levels of our government but are trying to understand international politics based on the information fed to us by sources we know little about. -Original Message-From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean McBrideSent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 3:07 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [CTRL] 911 - The Israeli Connection (Neil Mackay) -Caveat Lector- http://ww1.sundayherald.com/print37707 Sunday Herald - 02 November 2003 Five Israelis were seen filming as jet liners ploughed into the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001 ... Were they part of a massive spy ring which shadowed the 9/11 hijackers and knew that al-Qaeda planned a devastating terrorist attack on the USA? Neil Mackay investigates THERE was ruin and terror in Manhattan, but, over the Hudson River in New Jersey, a handful of men were dancing. As the World Trade Centre burned and crumpled, the five men celebrated and filmed the worst atrocity ever committed on American soil as it played out before their eyes. Who do you think they were? Palestinians? Saudis? Iraqis, even? Al-Qaeda, surely? Wrong on all counts. They were Israelis – and at least two of them were Israeli intelligence agents, working for Mossad, the equivalent of MI6 or the CIA. Their discovery and arrest that morning is a matter of indisputable fact. To those who have investigated just what the Israelis were up to that day, the case raises one dreadful possibility: that Israeli intelligence had been shadowing the al-Qaeda hijackers as they moved from the Middle East through Europe and into America where they trained as pilots and prepared to suicide-bomb the symbolic heart of the United States. And the motive? To bind America in blood and mutual suffering to the Israeli cause. After the attacks on New York and Washington, the former Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, was asked what the terrorist strikes would mean for US-Israeli relations. He said: “It’s very good.” Then he corrected himself, adding: “Well, it’s not good, but it will generate immediate s
Re: [CTRL] 911 - The Israeli Connection (Neil Mackay)
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Reports indicate that American intelligence had information about the pending attacks but the bureaucratic establishment kept the information from going thru. It is very possible that the Israelis knew of the impending disaster but were unable to get the information into hands that could take action against it. It's a pity that the Israelis don't trust the US and feel the need to do their own surveillance, but many in this country don't trust our government either. My guess is that the US has moles in many country including Israel. Those of us who read these message boards across the net are like archeologists who are picking thru the remains to try and understand what is happening in the culture at levels that are not open to us. How strange it is that we can't understand what is happening at the local levels of our government but are trying to understand international politics based on the information fed to us by sources we know little about. -Original Message-From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean McBrideSent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 3:07 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [CTRL] 911 - The Israeli Connection (Neil Mackay) -Caveat Lector- http://ww1.sundayherald.com/print37707 Sunday Herald - 02 November 2003 Five Israelis were seen filming as jet liners ploughed into the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001 ... Were they part of a massive spy ring which shadowed the 9/11 hijackers and knew that al-Qaeda planned a devastating terrorist attack on the USA? Neil Mackay investigates THERE was ruin and terror in Manhattan, but, over the Hudson River in New Jersey, a handful of men were dancing. As the World Trade Centre burned and crumpled, the five men celebrated and filmed the worst atrocity ever committed on American soil as it played out before their eyes. Who do you think they were? Palestinians? Saudis? Iraqis, even? Al-Qaeda, surely? Wrong on all counts. They were Israelis – and at least two of them were Israeli intelligence agents, working for Mossad, the equivalent of MI6 or the CIA. Their discovery and arrest that morning is a matter of indisputable fact. To those who have investigated just what the Israelis were up to that day, the case raises one dreadful possibility: that Israeli intelligence had been shadowing the al-Qaeda hijackers as they moved from the Middle East through Europe and into America where they trained as pilots and prepared to suicide-bomb the symbolic heart of the United States. And the motive? To bind America in blood and mutual suffering to the Israeli cause. After the attacks on New York and Washington, the former Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, was asked what the terrorist strikes would mean for US-Israeli relations. He said: “It’s very good.” Then he corrected himself, adding: “Well, it’s not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy [for Israel from Americans].” If Israel’s closest ally felt the collective pain of mass civilian deaths at the hands of terrorists, then Israel would have an unbreakable bond with the world’s only hyperpower and an effective free hand in dealing with the Palestinian terrorists who had been murdering its innocent civilians as the second intifada dragged on throughout 2001. It’s not surprising that the New Jersey housewife who first spotted the five Israelis and their white van wants to preserve her anonymity. She’s insisted that she only be identified as Maria. A neighbour in her apartment building had called her just after the first strike on the Twin Towers. Maria grabbed a pair of binoculars and, like millions across the world, she watched the horror of the day unfold. As she gazed at the burning towers, she noticed a group of men kneeling on the roof of a white van in her parking lot. Here’s her recollection: “They seemed to be taking a movie. They were like happy, you know ... they didn’t look shocked to me. I thought it was strange.” Maria jotted down the van’s registration and called the police. The FBI was alerted and soon there was a statewide all points bulletin put out for the apprehension of the van and its occupants. The cops traced the number, establishing that it belonged to a company called Urban Moving. Police Chief John Schmidig said: “We got an alert to be on the lookout for a white Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration and writing on the side. Th
[CTRL] 911 - The Israeli Connection (Neil Mackay)
Title: Sunday Herald -Caveat Lector- http://ww1.sundayherald.com/print37707 Sunday Herald - 02 November 2003 Five Israelis were seen filming as jet liners ploughed into the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001 ... Were they part of a massive spy ring which shadowed the 9/11 hijackers and knew that al-Qaeda planned a devastating terrorist attack on the USA? Neil Mackay investigates THERE was ruin and terror in Manhattan, but, over the Hudson River in New Jersey, a handful of men were dancing. As the World Trade Centre burned and crumpled, the five men celebrated and filmed the worst atrocity ever committed on American soil as it played out before their eyes. Who do you think they were? Palestinians? Saudis? Iraqis, even? Al-Qaeda, surely? Wrong on all counts. They were Israelis and at least two of them were Israeli intelligence agents, working for Mossad, the equivalent of MI6 or the CIA. Their discovery and arrest that morning is a matter of indisputable fact. To those who have investigated just what the Israelis were up to that day, the case raises one dreadful possibility: that Israeli intelligence had been shadowing the al-Qaeda hijackers as they moved from the Middle East through Europe and into America where they trained as pilots and prepared to suicide-bomb the symbolic heart of the United States. And the motive? To bind America in blood and mutual suffering to the Israeli cause. After the attacks on New York and Washington, the former Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, was asked what the terrorist strikes would mean for US-Israeli relations. He said: Its very good. Then he corrected himself, adding: Well, its not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy [for Israel from Americans]. If Israels closest ally felt the collective pain of mass civilian deaths at the hands of terrorists, then Israel would have an unbreakable bond with the worlds only hyperpower and an effective free hand in dealing with the Palestinian terrorists who had been murdering its innocent civilians as the second intifada dragged on throughout 2001. Its not surprising that the New Jersey housewife who first spotted the five Israelis and their white van wants to preserve her anonymity. Shes insisted that she only be identified as Maria. A neighbour in her apartment building had called her just after the first strike on the Twin Towers. Maria grabbed a pair of binoculars and, like millions across the world, she watched the horror of the day unfold. As she gazed at the burning towers, she noticed a group of men kneeling on the roof of a white van in her parking lot. Heres her recollection: They seemed to be taking a movie. They were like happy, you know ... they didnt look shocked to me. I thought it was strange. Maria jotted down the vans registration and called the police. The FBI was alerted and soon there was a statewide all points bulletin put out for the apprehension of the van and its occupants. The cops traced the number, establishing that it belonged to a company called Urban Moving. Police Chief John Schmidig said: We got an alert to be on the lookout for a white Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration and writing on the side. Three individuals were seen celebrating in Liberty State Park after the impact. They said three people were jumping up and down. By 4pm on the afternoon of September 11, the van was spotted near New Jerseys Giants stadium. A squad car pulled it over and inside were five men in their 20s. They were hustled out of the car with guns levelled at their heads and handcuffed. In the car was $4700 in cash, a couple of foreign passports and a pair of box cutters the concealed Stanley Knife-type blades used by the 19 hijackers whod flown jetliners into the World Trade Centre and Pentagon just hours before. There were also fresh pictures of the men standing with the smouldering wreckage of the Twin Towers in the background. One image showed a hand flicking a lighter in front of the devastated buildings, like a fan at a pop concert. The driver of the van then told the arresting officers: We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem. His name was Sivan Kurzberg. The other four passengers were Kurzbergs brother Paul, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari. The men were dragged off to prison and transferred out of the custody of the FBIs Criminal Division and into the hands of thei