Re: [CTRL] The Consortium 12/29/98
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/30/98 9:42:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Watching President Clinton appeal to House Republicans in the weeks before > his impeachment brought to mind the president in the movie "Independence > Day." Excellent post, Linda.- Jerry DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Consortium 12/29/98
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/30/98 7:42:30 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > http://www.consortiumnews.com/c122898c.html > > Dec. 29, 1998 > > > Editorial: > Clinton Impeached > The national Republican Party -- now dominated by some of the most extreme > elements in U.S. politics -- has made clear it wants President Clinton's > political death, nothing less. They conveintly forget about the 5 Democrats who voted for the impeachment... NOT to mention if folks watched the impeachment vote, you will recall that many democrats DID NOT vote until after the magical 218 number had been reached, which allowed them to take political cover and vote against impeachment..at least according to leading Democrats. These same Democrats were also claiming that had the Republicans not reached the magical 218 number on the two articles that passed they would have joined in and voted for impeachment. This way they get to keep milking the Democratic National Committee for reelection money and support. > > The larger picture might be even uglier. Beyond ousting Clinton, this new > GOP is edging toward a modern style of totalitarianism that uses media, > scandal and investigations to destroy adversaries who lack appropriate > "values." Apparently folks don't read history books because if they did, they would find out that political scandels and investigations, not to mention media coverage of said scandels have been around since George Washington. During the height of the Watergate crisis, James Roosevelt (FDR's Son) gave an interview and said something to the effect of 'I don't know what the big deal is..my dad bugged politcal rivals and used the us government to intimidate and harass people ...in fact he was the guy who invented it.' > > And scandals" now can be virtually created by the right's awesome attack > machinery: a vast conservative media, including dominance of Washingtons > pundit shows; well-funded "watchdog" groups and think tanks; legal groups > that file civil suits against ideological enemies; far-right federal judges, > including ones controlling key appeals courts and the special prosecutor > apparatus; and both houses of Congress with their broad powers to > investigate. Folks apparently wants us to forget the fact that LIBERAL DEMOCRATS was the party which gave us the special prosecutor apparatus, and they also fail to mention the many attacks on Republicans over the years which came from such leftist groups/think tanks as the Institute for Policy Studys, People for the American Way, Greenpeace, ACLU, and on and on which have filed suits and done the same exact thing which Consortium berates others for. What these people fail to understand is that all groups from all sides of the political spectrum, even though their beliefs are different do essentially follow the same paths of pushing their agenda through Congress, Courts or file suits against people who disagree with them. I wonder when Consortium is going howl about and run some the big expose on leftist idiological groups? > Even without the charisma of Ronald Reagan or the scheming of Newt Gingrich, > the right-dominated House GOP caucus impeached a U.S. president for only the > second time in history. As I recall it was all of the GOP plus 5-7 Democratswhich makes it a biapartisian impeachment vote. As to the impeachment, whats your point? The Constitution gives Congress the power and authority to do so. Folks should recall that when Ronald Reagan was going through Iran Contra, the party that Consortium apparently throws it support behind (The Democrats and Liberals) decided in advance that Ronald Reagan would never be impeached UNLESS Congress could find a smoking gun, i.e. direct evidence linking him to Iran Contra. Consortium should also recall that in Lawrence Walsh's (Iran/Contra's equivilant of Ken Starr) final report he concluded that Ronald Reagan DID NOT LIE UNDER OATH. We should also recall that Consortium's President Bill Clinton, unzipped his pants, and let a White House intern perform oral sex on him, then directly lied about it. Had Clinton fessed up in the first place, he never would have been impeached. > > The House Republicans looked clunky at times, making self-righteous speeches > and losing Speaker-designate Bob Livingston to his own sex scandal. But they > still whipped GOP "moderates" into line and drove home two articles of > impeachment against Clinton. Livingston did the honorable thing and resigned. I found it interesting that Clinton called for Livingston NOT TO RESIGN.The way I see it, the leader of the Democratic party and the left has asked a Republican leader not to resign over his sex scandel because the White House termed it "politics of self destruction." SO publications such as Consortium should follow the lead of the person they defend so much and start blathering about how Republicans shouldn't res
[CTRL] The Consortium 12/29/98
-Caveat Lector- http://www.consortiumnews.com/c122898c.html Dec. 29, 1998 Editorial: Clinton Impeached Watching President Clinton appeal to House Republicans in the weeks before his impeachment brought to mind the president in the movie "Independence Day." Amid worldwide devastation, the hapless president tries to negotiate with a captured alien. "What is it you want us to do?" the president asks. "Die," the alien replies. The national Republican Party -- now dominated by some of the most extreme elements in U.S. politics -- has made clear it wants President Clinton's political death, nothing less. The larger picture might be even uglier. Beyond ousting Clinton, this new GOP is edging toward a modern style of totalitarianism that uses media, scandal and investigations to destroy adversaries who lack appropriate "values." And scandals" now can be virtually created by the right's awesome attack machinery: a vast conservative media, including dominance of Washingtons pundit shows; well-funded "watchdog" groups and think tanks; legal groups that file civil suits against ideological enemies; far-right federal judges, including ones controlling key appeals courts and the special prosecutor apparatus; and both houses of Congress with their broad powers to investigate. This process also is not limited to Clinton and those who lack the right values. It can be applied to anyone who gets in the way, even those like Vice President Al Gore with his homey reputation as a decent family man. The Clinton impeachment on Dec. 19 represented a high-water mark for this strategy, a demonstration of the Republican Rights raw political power. Even without the charisma of Ronald Reagan or the scheming of Newt Gingrich, the right-dominated House GOP caucus impeached a U.S. president for only the second time in history. The House Republicans looked clunky at times, making self-righteous speeches and losing Speaker-designate Bob Livingston to his own sex scandal. But they still whipped GOP "moderates" into line and drove home two articles of impeachment against Clinton. The vote fulfilled a dream of many conservatives who have pined for Clinton's impeachment since his election in 1992. In February 1994 -- before Paula Jones burst onto the scene and long before Monica Lewinsky flashed her thongs at the president -- "Impeach Clinton" bumper stickers and buttons were stacked up at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington. All that was needed was an offense that could be pinned on Clinton. But the supposedly big issues -- Whitewater, Travelgate, Filegate, Vincent Foster's death, Mena drug trafficking, even the wild-eyed lists of "mysterious deaths" -- failed to generate anything that approached convincing evidence. Yet, given the rights heavy investment in anti-Clinton propaganda, impeaching Clinton over something -- over anything -- became an increasingly desperate need among conservatives. So, they turned to Clintons obvious weakness: sex. In January 1998, cornered by conservative lawyers for Paula Joness dubious civil suit, Clinton tried to squirm out of a question about his adulterous relationship with Lewinsky and finally gave his enemies the pretext that they long had sought. With Starrs lies and cover-up impeachment report in September, Republicans began daydreaming about an electoral landslide and the ouster of both Clinton and Gore. But the voters shocked Republicans and the pundits by cutting the GOP's House majority almost in half. The outcome forced Gingrich's resignation. But after six years of hurling "scandals" at Clinton, the House GOP could not drop the one make-able case against the president. The Republicans were aided immeasurably by a Washington media addicted to the Lewinsky story. In the weeks after the election, in a lame-duck session, the Republican Right led the renewed assault. Rep. Henry Hyde and GOP partisans on the House Judiciary Committee spurned any talk of compromise despite Clintons offer to accept a strong censure for his actions. Along party-line votes, the House approved two articles of impeachment and delivered them to the Senate. The Senate now can oust the president with a two-thirds vote, an act that would make Clinton the first president in U.S. history to face that humiliation. As the impeachment drive advanced, however, two key Republicans -- Rep. Bob Barr of Georgia and Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott -- were exposed as having given fawning speeches to a white racialist group called the Council of Conservative Citizens. The CCC was an outgrowth of the segregationist Citizens Councils which battled efforts to integrate the South in the 1950s and 60s. The CCCs newsletter carries articles denouncing interracial marriage and promoting white supremacy. One column argued that Clintons sexual behavior suggests that he might be Americas first liberal black president or, at minimum, an Oreo turned inside out whose belief
