Re: [CTRL] Urantia : The Great Cult Mystery
-Caveat Lector- Kinda, I do not believe in gods, I believe in actions. Actions spawn life and death, sorrow and joy. The devil is a lie of men. There is no war of gods. There is ONE GOD. There is much in history, unknown and distant in the mists of time. Have you read Cayce? Express yourself. To the Utmost of Futures . . . MHO Om K - In a message dated 12/31/98 10:23:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Hi > >I have to agree with you that no..you don't need all of it's "flowery" talk to >understand cause and affect. But I for one am thrilled to have finally found >the details about God and Jesus and everything else the book covers. I have >wondered about this stuff my whole life. Some of the science it contains is >outdated, but as far as the history..I haven't run across too many errors. >Remember the part about the Fandors? the big birds that flew some of the >primative natives around during the time of adam and eve..well..a few years >ago Dan Rather on the CBS evening news..told america that some scientists had >uncovered the fossils of a bird with a 500 ft. wing span. Supposedly these >fandors were able to "talk"..we have birds that talk today..they are called >parrots. > >I am really not trying to shove this down anyone's throat, although it may >seem that way to some. For me this book has been the key to understanding the >motives and strange happenings that are going on within our government and >elsewhere..there is even a bigger picture than what the conspiracies uncover. >After a while..after many readings of the UB..there exists..between the lines >of this fascinating book..little gems that have been a great aid in >desciphering the mysteries that seem to surround us. > >I would like to ask you MHO..what you thought of the paper on our fallen >Planetary Prince..Caligastia?..did you believe it? Well..you know I >do..hehe..I have come to the conclusion that it is this same fallen planetary >prince (aka the devil) that is the mastermind behind the NWO. It is >Caligastia's plan to stop evolution and free will choices in it's tracks. >Cal's goal is to become god of Urantia. And you know what that means..the >celestials will not stand idly by while evolution or free will is tampered >with. > >I sound like a nut..i know..oh well..I am having a blast. :) > >Kinda > > > >> Kinda, I first ran into the Urantia Book about thirty years ago. I have a >> copy. I have read through much of it. It was a channled book. If you care >to >> live you life by it , fine. Presonally. I do not believe it to be a >> salvation >> revalation. Ya really do not need all its flowery talk to understand how >one >> actions affect your world. >> And I would question much of the history in the Urantia Book. >> >> Jesus had the KISS principle down. Treat others as you would treat yourself >> and love God with all you heart and soul. Pretty simple and >straightforward. >> >> >> MHO DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Urantia : The Great Cult Mystery
-Caveat Lector- Hi I have to agree with you that no..you don't need all of it's "flowery" talk to understand cause and affect. But I for one am thrilled to have finally found the details about God and Jesus and everything else the book covers. I have wondered about this stuff my whole life. Some of the science it contains is outdated, but as far as the history..I haven't run across too many errors. Remember the part about the Fandors? the big birds that flew some of the primative natives around during the time of adam and eve..well..a few years ago Dan Rather on the CBS evening news..told america that some scientists had uncovered the fossils of a bird with a 500 ft. wing span. Supposedly these fandors were able to "talk"..we have birds that talk today..they are called parrots. I am really not trying to shove this down anyone's throat, although it may seem that way to some. For me this book has been the key to understanding the motives and strange happenings that are going on within our government and elsewhere..there is even a bigger picture than what the conspiracies uncover. After a while..after many readings of the UB..there exists..between the lines of this fascinating book..little gems that have been a great aid in desciphering the mysteries that seem to surround us. I would like to ask you MHO..what you thought of the paper on our fallen Planetary Prince..Caligastia?..did you believe it? Well..you know I do..hehe..I have come to the conclusion that it is this same fallen planetary prince (aka the devil) that is the mastermind behind the NWO. It is Caligastia's plan to stop evolution and free will choices in it's tracks. Cal's goal is to become god of Urantia. And you know what that means..the celestials will not stand idly by while evolution or free will is tampered with. I sound like a nut..i know..oh well..I am having a blast. :) Kinda > Kinda, I first ran into the Urantia Book about thirty years ago. I have a > copy. I have read through much of it. It was a channled book. If you care to > live you life by it , fine. Presonally. I do not believe it to be a > salvation > revalation. Ya really do not need all its flowery talk to understand how one > actions affect your world. > And I would question much of the history in the Urantia Book. > > Jesus had the KISS principle down. Treat others as you would treat yourself > and love God with all you heart and soul. Pretty simple and straightforward. > > > MHO DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Urantia : The Great Cult Mystery
-Caveat Lector- Kinda, I first ran into the Urantia Book about thirty years ago. I have a copy. I have read through much of it. It was a channled book. If you care to live you life by it , fine. Presonally. I do not believe it to be a salvation revalation. Ya really do not need all its flowery talk to understand how one actions affect your world. And I would question much of the history in the Urantia Book. Jesus had the KISS principle down. Treat others as you would treat yourself and love God with all you heart and soul. Pretty simple and straightforward. MHO Om K In a message dated 12/31/98 7:20:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >The GREAT CULT Mystery > >How many of you die hard conspiracy researchers have heard of this GREAT CULT? >Surely if this big bad cult was as bad as Gardner makes it out to be, it would >be all over the news and all over the internet. Surprise!..there is no cult. >That is what is so great about this revelation in book form..it is >personal..no leaders are needed. See for yourself :) > >Kinda DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Urantia : The Great Cult Mystery
-Caveat Lector- The GREAT CULT Mystery How many of you die hard conspiracy researchers have heard of this GREAT CULT? Surely if this big bad cult was as bad as Gardner makes it out to be, it would be all over the news and all over the internet. Surprise!..there is no cult. That is what is so great about this revelation in book form..it is personal..no leaders are needed. See for yourself :) Kinda DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Urantia : The Great Cult Mystery
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ts/book- reviews/0879759550/rileygenterpriseA/002-3013855-6230800 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ts/book- reviews/0879759550/rileygenterpriseA/002-3013855-6230800">Amazon.com: Reviews: Urantia : The Great Cult M - One point of view, with a couple of others thrown in for good measure. Om K - Urantia : The Great Cult Mystery by Martin Gardner Try express shopping with 1-ClickSM and Gift Click Our Price: $19.57 You Save: $8.38 (30%) Usually ships in 2-3 days Hardcover - (April 1995) 445 pages at a glance reviews customer comments if you like this book... table of contents Keyword Search Full search: Books, Music, or Video Urantia : The Great Cult Mystery by Martin Gardner Try express shopping with 1-ClickSM and Gift Click Our Price: $19.57 You Save: $8.38 (30%) Usually ships in 2-3 days Hardcover - (April 1995) 445 pages Table of Contents 1. The Urantia Book 2. Dr. William Sadler 3. Dr. John Kellogg 4. Ellen White's Plagiarisms 5. The Living Temple 6. Wilfred Custer Kellogg 7. The Revelation Begins 8. Harold Sherman and Harry Loose 9. OAHSPE 10. Science in The Urantia Book, Part I 11. Science in The Urantia Book, Part II 12. Adventist Influence on The Urantia Book 13. Sadler and Sister White 14. Did Sadler Contribute to the Papers? Part I 15. Did Sadler Contribute to the Papers? Part II 16. Plagiarisms in The Urantia Book 17. Bitter Schisms 18. Joe Pope and the New Teachers 19. The Great Rebellion App. A. Books by William Sadler, Sr. App. B. Books by Harold Sherman App. C. Sherman's Letter to Sadler App. D. The Story of Joseph of Arimathaea App. E. Unusual Words and Phrases that Sadler and The Urantia Book Have in Common App. F. Acknowledgments Name Index Reviews Amazon.com The media has temporarily turned its large but constantly blinking eye away from cult-of-the-day reportage after the Waco conflagration, but such organizations continue to collect adherents. Martin Gardner, best known as mathematical-games-meister for Scientific American, turns his refreshingly unblinking gaze on the origin and continuing growth of the Urantian cult, whose members believe they are receiving corrigenda to the Bible from celestial beings. A marvellous study of the ways in which the zaniest ideas can be propagated through society. >From Booklist , April 1, 1995 The Urantia Book is at the center of one of the more interesting esoteric American sects in a century full to bursting with them. As such, it was bound to attract premier debunker Gardner's attention. Gardner begins by regrettably briefly recapitulating the book itself and summarizing the history of the Urantians' connections with Sister Ellen White and the Seventh-Day Adventists and other fin de sie{ }cle religionists, and he closes with a panorama of the present state of the Urantia movement and its reforms and schisms. But Gardner uses the core of his text to establish, by textual analysis and other tools, Dr. William Sadler as The Urantia Book's main, if not sole, author. Whether he succeeds in this endeavor each reader will decide individually; his case is certainly remarkably compelling. There are a few flaws, for the sheer weight of facts unearthed by his research sometimes overpowers the thread of his argument. And sometimes Gardner allows himself to wax sarcastic at an especially egregious example of inanity. But then, who wouldn't? Dennis Winters Copyright© 1995, American Library Association. All rights reserved Martin Gardner, one of America's most acclaimed science writers, has here compiled the first complete history of a growing, modern religious cult. Gardner traces the cult's beginnings back to its "bible," The Urantia Book, a book supposedly revealed solely by celestial beings to correct the flaws in the traditional Bible. Published in 1955 under the direction of cult leader Dr. William Sadler, The Urantia Book (Urantia is the cult's name for the earth) is the largest work ever said to have been channeled by unseen higher beings through human contacts. It differs from earlier channeled "bibles" in that it contains a vast amount of modern science as well as a detailed biography of Jesus Christ, complete with facts not found in the Gospels. As a result, many scientists and scholars are dedicated Urantians. In addition to discussing the beliefs of the Urantia cult, Gardner reveals two major developments that threaten to splinter the movement. The first is a sectarian rift that has split the movement into two major competing factions. The second is the growing belief of hundreds of Urantians that they, too, are receiving their own messages from the celestials, who they claim are preparing Urantia for a new revelation intended to usher in a utopia of "light an