Re: Informal 2019/2020 curl roadmap poll

2019-08-27 Thread Daniel Stenberg via curl-library

Hi,

I've closed the poll. 20 people responded and here are the results.

I counted share of "positive votes" (ie voted 4 or 5). If ending on the same 
precentage, more 5s makes you a winner. Here's how the ten features rank:


 1. HSTS (70%)
 2. DNS-over-TLS (70%)
 3. ESNI (65%)
 4. tiny-curl (50%)
 5. MQTT (50%)
 6. Harcode localhost (45%)
 7. buildconfig (45%)
 8. FIPS (30%)
 9. (shared place) Prevent -X / wolfSSH (20%)

Thanks everyone. I think this gives us/me a pointer of were to put some 
efforts when going forward.


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Re: Informal 2019/2020 curl roadmap poll

2019-08-19 Thread Daniel Stenberg via curl-library

On Mon, 19 Aug 2019, Aleksandar Lazic wrote:

This ^^ service for example only offers a very basic poll functionality and 
can't host an 11-question poll the way this roadmap thing is.


What's your requirements for the polling solution. I will then try to find 
another solution instead of g..forms.


I don't know, but I want to be able to add a number of questions and have the 
ability to select different kinds of answers. Multi answer, checkboxes, graded 
etc. I don't want to be limited to a fixed number of respondees. And of course 
the answers need to be collected and provided in a decent way.


surveymonkey and typeform are for example two excellent such services, but 
IIRC both become pretty pricy when the free tier isn't enough and when I've 
played with them the free version wasn't enough.


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Re: Informal 2019/2020 curl roadmap poll

2019-08-19 Thread Aleksandar Lazic via curl-library
Am 19.08.19 um 09:19 schrieb Daniel Stenberg:
> On Sun, 18 Aug 2019, Aleksandar Lazic wrote:
> 
>>>  - ESNI
>>
>> First: +1
>>
>>>  - MQTT
>>
>> Second: +1
> 
> Going by the responses we've seen so far, that seems to match what others 
> think
> as well...
> 
>> Maybe you can switch from google forms to a more privacy oriented poll 
>> service
>> like.
> 
> Sure! I've tried out several competitors but none has been as flexible or
> offered the same no-cost approach. I'm open to keep trying others. Most others
> I've tried limits the surveys in various ways in their free tiers and I've 
> found
> the paid levels too expensive for my use cases.
> 
>> https://poll.digitalcourage.de/?lang=en
> 
> This ^^ service for example only offers a very basic poll functionality and
> can't host an 11-question poll the way this roadmap thing is.

What's your requirements for the polling solution. I will then try to find
another solution instead of g..forms.

> (Another small nit could be that the fine print, FAQ etc on the site is all 
> only
> in German which makes me a bit cautious as well.)

Sounds like one requirement is Language: English ;-)

Reards
Aleks

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Re: Informal 2019/2020 curl roadmap poll

2019-08-19 Thread Daniel Stenberg via curl-library

On Sat, 17 Aug 2019, Daniel Stenberg via curl-library wrote:

[the poll is still open]


https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe-T5IrWq73d6QXvdsn8zVhCWKHCwq97J7KrNktOPL0g2Y7pA/viewform


Just an idea:

If you fill in a suggestion in the free form field at the end of the poll, do 
consider elaborating further here on the mailing list.


(Otherwise *I* will do that to kick off some attempt of discussion and 
starting point...)


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Re: Informal 2019/2020 curl roadmap poll

2019-08-19 Thread Daniel Stenberg via curl-library

On Sun, 18 Aug 2019, Aleksandar Lazic wrote:


 - ESNI


First: +1


 - MQTT


Second: +1


Going by the responses we've seen so far, that seems to match what others 
think as well...


Maybe you can switch from google forms to a more privacy oriented poll 
service like.


Sure! I've tried out several competitors but none has been as flexible or 
offered the same no-cost approach. I'm open to keep trying others. Most others 
I've tried limits the surveys in various ways in their free tiers and I've 
found the paid levels too expensive for my use cases.



https://poll.digitalcourage.de/?lang=en


This ^^ service for example only offers a very basic poll functionality and 
can't host an 11-question poll the way this roadmap thing is.


(Another small nit could be that the fine print, FAQ etc on the site is all 
only in German which makes me a bit cautious as well.)


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Re: Informal 2019/2020 curl roadmap poll

2019-08-18 Thread Aleksandar Lazic via curl-library
Hi.

Am 17.08.19 um 16:48 schrieb Daniel Stenberg via curl-library:
> Hi team!
> 
> About six months ago I wrote a document to myself listing twelve features and
> functionality I wanted to work on for curl.
> 
> This is the status of them right now:
> 
>  - four of the larger ones are already well underway (HTTP/3, alt-svc,
>    parallel transfers in curl, tiny-curl)

That's great ;-)

>  - one is in work in progress (wolfSSH backend)
> 
>  - two of them I changed my mind about (Option to refuse HTTPS => HTTP
>    redirects and curl_multi_fdset() alternative for poll()) and I'll drop
>    them
> 
>  - one is on hold (option to let CURLOPT_CUSTOMREQUEST be overridden on
>    redirect) to see if someone finds it interesting later
> 
> Those are eight things and I said there were twelve to start with. So four of
> them I didn't get to (yet). I won't tell you what the remaining ones are.
> Instead I'll give you a link with TEN different things to potentially take on
> next (and one free form field). Those things are:
> 
>  - ESNI

First: +1

>  - HSTS
>  - Hardcoded localhost
>  - buildconfig
>  - DNS-over-TLS
>  - Prevent -X from overriding the next request
>  - tiny-curl
>  - MQTT

Second: +1

>  - FIPS
>  - wolfSSH backend
> 
> I want *you* to grade them for me. Which ones would you like to see happen?
> Which ones are useless to you? (Each item is explained a little further on the
> actual poll page)
> 
> I want you to help me figure out what (lib)curl users and developers want the
> most and use this information to guide in which order and how to go forward.
> 
> Or, if you prefer, you can also just reply to this email!
> 
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe-T5IrWq73d6QXvdsn8zVhCWKHCwq97J7KrNktOPL0g2Y7pA/viewform

Maybe you can switch from google forms to a more privacy oriented poll service 
like.

https://poll.digitalcourage.de/?lang=en

> I'll keep the poll open for a few days at least, but if you want to 
> participate
> in deciding what to see next in curl, please fill it in sooner rather than 
> later.

Best regards
Aleks

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