Re: Does anyone use checknr(1)?

2024-05-25 Thread nia
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 10:00:47PM +0200, Roland Illig wrote: > Does anyone use this tool? Is it worth keeping? I'm quite surprised to learn that we have a man page linter that isn't mandoc(1). I think we all use that instead?

Re: amdgpu laptops with 10 & current?

2024-05-14 Thread nia
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 02:34:47PM +0100, Patrick Welche wrote: > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 07:14:35AM +0000, nia wrote: > > WiFi may be Intel AX200/AX201/AX210/AX211 but it might depend. > > We don't have a driver for this. Previous models had iwm(4) which > > is a slow an

amdgpu laptops with 10 & current?

2024-05-14 Thread nia
The ThinkPad A485 looks pretty interesting for use with NetBSD. - 1st Gen AMD Ryzen Mobile - 32 GiB DDR4 2400 MHz - AMD Radeon Vega 6, 8 or 10 Usually I prefer the smaller X series, but they've made them non-upgradable and harder to repair... ethernet is re0, this is different from the intel

Re: new "compat" sets have really made sets harder to manage.

2024-04-25 Thread nia
I've thought about this a bit more and I want to write a separate script for generating the compat set lists, the current one is a little confusing (it tries to do a lot of things) and isn't really suited to generating a list based on another list. I'll work on this when I have time.

Re: new "compat" sets have really made sets harder to manage.

2024-04-19 Thread nia
ross a > number of files, all that will need editing as future GCCs appear. > > this is compounded across dozens of other files so there are now > hundreds or perhaps thousands of unnecessary duplicated lines, in > a couple of dozen of files. > > can someone please fix this? (nia

Re: Failure building -current amd64

2024-04-10 Thread nia
On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 11:44:04AM +0100, Chavdar Ivanov wrote: > Any ideas? A stale location in one of the flists? I was working on reworking the set lists on my private tree, then christos committed some new files and I had to do the awkward job of merging the changes. My bad... The missing

Re: modesetting vs intel in 10.0

2023-08-31 Thread nia
On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 09:17:35PM +0100, Mike Pumford wrote: > On 30/08/2023 09:56, nia wrote: > > > I think detecting the year of manufacture is too much of a hard > > problem - there are simply too many new cards and I have no idea > > about a "cutoff point"

Re: modesetting vs intel in 10.0

2023-08-30 Thread nia
On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 09:58:51AM +1000, matthew green wrote: > > But maybe modesetting is mature enough (and intel bad enough) > > to warrant being the default for Intel GPUs. > > i'm not familiar with the various intel chipsets, i've only had > a couple of them over the years and besides

Re: modesetting vs intel in 10.0

2023-08-26 Thread nia
On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 06:47:01AM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: > I am new to modern intel graphics. I have a UHD 630 with a 9th > generation (coffee lake?) CPU. It is using intel, and it works for > xterm :-) But I see artifacts while typing into github comment boxes. > Is this something I should

Re: modesetting vs intel in 10.0

2023-08-25 Thread nia
On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 08:55:13PM +0100, David Brownlee wrote: > Picking up on this, particularly with netbsd-10 looming, I think we > should at least whitelist some known good-with-modesetting Intel GPUs, > with a plan to swapping over to whitelisting keep-on-intel Intel over > time. I've

Re: modesetting vs intel in 10.0

2023-07-07 Thread nia
On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 08:18:18PM +0100, David Brownlee wrote: > On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 at 19:43, nia wrote: > > > > After some testing on a Skylake machine, I've concluded > > that xf86-video-modesetting is far superior to xf86-video-intel > > on that generation of Intel

modesetting vs intel in 10.0

2023-07-07 Thread nia
After some testing on a Skylake machine, I've concluded that xf86-video-modesetting is far superior to xf86-video-intel on that generation of Intel hardware - the most obvious thing is that modesetting has functional VSync and superior 3D performance with less tearing. Only problem is that we

Re: 5G wifi connection

2023-06-12 Thread nia
On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 01:36:07PM +, Bruno Melo wrote: > Is there any USB driver with support to 5G connections? > > Thanks. - urndis(4), of course, is a performant option. - run(4) and rum(4) support 802.11a. The devices are older and larger than urtwn(4). Not all runs/rums have 11a.

Re: 10_BETA: Nice QOL improvements to the installer

2022-12-23 Thread nia
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 08:05:02AM +0530, Mayuresh wrote: > On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 06:18:41AM +1300, Lloyd Parkes wrote: > > I used the second (non-BIOS) image because I guessed it might be a hybrid > > installer. I think that my old NUCs only support BIOS booting from USB > > sticks, but I could

Re: Branching for netbsd-10 next week

2022-12-16 Thread nia
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 07:59:35PM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: > How will I be able to access (read-only OK) FFS2ea from NetBSD 9.99.82, and > what about compatibility with FreeBSD regarding file system? I assume no > compatibility with Linux. > There will be no compatibility with either,

Re: npf table loads slow??

2022-12-06 Thread nia
There is a PR for bad behavior of NPF with large tables: http://gnats.netbsd.org/55892

Re: uwsgi rc.d

2022-11-25 Thread nia
On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 10:30:53AM +0100, Sagar Acharya wrote: > run_rc_command --ini /abs/path/to/conf.ini This looks strange? It is usually run_rc_command "$1"

Re: ghc and current aarch64

2022-11-19 Thread nia
On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 04:07:38PM +, adr wrote: > Right now the bootstrap compiler is built in netbsd-8, so it depends > on emulators/compat80, which isn't available to aarch64. So in > current (and I suppose 9 too) you'll end up with: > >

Re: Using the audio(4) driver for recording under -current?

2022-10-27 Thread nia
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 03:39:44PM -0700, Brian Buhrow wrote: > hello. Just to clarify, I'm not trying to use two audio devices for > recording at the same > time. What I was doing was something like: > > #set up the audio device first > audioctl -d /dev/sound2 -w record.rate=44100

Re: effective use of blkdiscard(8)?

2022-06-25 Thread nia
On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 05:22:02PM +1000, matthew green wrote: > > However, what about less obvious cases? > > > > A large file could be created, for example, with dd: > > > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=./testfile bs=4m count=1 > > > > Then discarded: > > > > # blkdiscard -v ./testfile > > > > Would

effective use of blkdiscard(8)?

2022-06-23 Thread nia
blkdiscard(8) seems like a command in -current that's useful for regular maintenance of SSDs. I would assume that a regular run of: blkdiscard -v /dev/rwd0d would be useful to TRIM an entire SSD, obviously destructively, so would be useful when reinstalling NetBSD. However, what about less

Re: CVS commit: src

2022-05-25 Thread nia
On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 09:50:29PM +0700, Robert Elz wrote: > What is in pkgsrc/mbone is mostky tge ancient mbone tools > (I don't recognise everything) and the name fits for that. > We have nothing mbone in base that I know if, nomkmbone > (or whatever) doesn't make a lot of sense (as a name). >

Re: CVS commit: src

2022-05-25 Thread nia
On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 08:42:20AM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: > I was really surprisd that we had mbone applications in base; to me, > that would mean things like vic and vat. > > This is not about about MBONE; it's about multicast routing. The mbone > was an overlay network to connect local

Re: Supported graphics (in HEAD)

2022-05-07 Thread nia
On Sat, May 07, 2022 at 06:02:23PM +0700, Robert Elz wrote: > I was kind of hoping (dreaming) that someone might say "If you > really don't care about acceleration" (I don't) "then just disable > x using userconf" (needing to build a custom kernel fine as well) > "and it should just work" (for

Re: Branching for NetBSD 10

2022-05-02 Thread nia
On Mon, May 02, 2022 at 04:22:56PM +0200, Martin Husemann wrote: > https://gnats.NetBSD.org/56727 Ah, my bug. For the record this was a hdaudio bug that got worse in current. jmcneill fixed it. i915 is now perfect for me in current :)

Re: heads up: changes to synaptics trackpad driver

2022-03-20 Thread nia
Hey, I noticed your code introduces a return statement above where mouse button packets are processed. Unfortunately your changes cause some of the physical buttons on my trackpad to no longer work (notably the middle one) so I've had to locally revert it for now.

Re: Disappearing mouse buttons

2022-02-09 Thread nia
On Wed, Feb 09, 2022 at 09:16:08AM +0100, Tom Ivar Helbekkmo wrote: > That was, indeed, it! Thank you so much for identifying it for me! :) > > Does this mean that our /dev/wsmouse isn't working properly? Having a > device that exhibits this behaviour, should I be taking a closer look at >

Re: Disappearing mouse buttons

2022-02-08 Thread nia
On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 03:06:43PM +0100, Tom Ivar Helbekkmo wrote: > I've been looking at changes in sys/dev/usb, sys/dev/hid, and > sys/dev/wscons, but I can't find anything that looks relevant. > > If anyone has any hints for me, that would be appreciated! > > -tih I think you're looking in

Re: HEADS UP: Merging drm update

2021-12-19 Thread nia
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 12:48:15PM +, Taylor R Campbell wrote: > > Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2021 01:42:53 + > > From: Taylor R Campbell > > > > > Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2021 17:06:13 + > > > From: Taylor R Campbell > > > > > > I'm planning to merge the drm update this weekend -- a cvs import

Re: Useradd in 9.99.92

2021-12-10 Thread nia
Fixed, thanks!

Re: Full rebuild required for aarch64

2021-10-15 Thread nia
On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 11:18:28AM -0700, Michael Cheponis wrote: > ok, I'll byte: What is RELRO and MKPIE, and why does it force a > build-release? > > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 11:01 AM nia wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I've enabled RELRO and MKPIE for aa

Re: pwhash?

2021-10-15 Thread nia
The Argon2 code was originally added and documented in 2019 but was not enabled by default. There were also a few edge cases where it didn't work and the hash format differed from the reference implementation so recently I've been fixing it up. To build with Argon2 support you need MKARGON2=yes

Full rebuild required for aarch64

2021-10-14 Thread nia
Hi, I've enabled RELRO and MKPIE for aarch64 so update builds will not work, you will need to do a full release build if you are updating from source. Thanks for the patience.

Re: /bin/sh tabcomplete

2021-09-15 Thread nia
On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:04:47AM -0400, Christos Zoulas wrote: > This is a side effect of the change to add file-completion for commands. > Fixed. > > christos Thanks for the quick fix christos - this was driving me mad, I thought I'd changed something by accident.

Re: null mounts seem to lose directories?

2021-08-24 Thread nia
For now I've found a workaround: using a parent directory as the null moint point. Perhaps the bulklog directory gets deleted and re-created or something, but that doesn't explain why it's kept _partially_ in sync.

Re: null mounts seem to lose directories?

2021-08-22 Thread nia
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 12:52:10PM +0200, J. Hannken-Illjes wrote: > Using the attached script I see no problems. What are you > doing between the "mount -t tmpfs", "mount -t null" and this "ls"? A full bulk build of pkgsrc, unfortunately

Re: null mounts seem to lose directories?

2021-08-22 Thread nia
Also, several older null mounts that appear in df but no longer exist seem un-unmountable: # umount -a -t null umount: /sandbox/nb9-i386-trunk/chroot/16/data: Invalid argument umount: /sandbox/nb9-i386-trunk/chroot/15/data: No such file or directory umount: /sandbox/nb9-i386-trunk/chroot/14/data:

null mounts seem to lose directories?

2021-08-22 Thread nia
I have various null mounts on top of a tmpfs: $ df -h ... tmpfs 87G 1.0G86G 1% /sandbox/nb9-i386-trunk/chroot/1 /sandbox/nb9-i386-trunk/data/bulklog 237G79G 158G 33% /sandbox/nb9-i386-trunk/chroot/1/data/bulklog ... Directories are

Re: RealTek wifi on -current amd64 on lenovo laptop

2021-05-18 Thread nia
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 09:37:30AM +0530, Mayuresh wrote: > product: RTL8821CE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter > > Is there any chance to get it to work in -current? There's no driver for Realtek 802.11ac PCIe hardware. You could try porting a driver from another OS.

Re: vether vs. tap, initialization order, etc

2021-04-24 Thread nia
On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 07:57:30AM -0700, Jason Thorpe wrote: > > > On Apr 24, 2021, at 5:42 AM, nia wrote: > > > > I wonder if there's an initialization order difference > > somewhere. > > If you want to have control over the initialization order, you need to

vether vs. tap, initialization order, etc

2021-04-24 Thread nia
I just updated our home router from 9.1 to -current because a roommate wanted to use wg(4). I use tap as a bridge endpoint for two NICs that are used for the LAN. I thought I'd be able to copy the configs and do a straightforward subtitution from tap to vether but this doesn't work.

Re: regarding the changes to kernel entropy gathering

2021-04-06 Thread nia
On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 01:22:49PM -0700, Greg A. Woods wrote: > I don't see how. I don't see any evidence for that happening. > > So, show me how entropy is being collected in my system: > > 16:18 [1.793] # uptime > 4:19PM up 22 days, 16:04, 2 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > 16:19

Re: regarding the changes to kernel entropy gathering

2021-04-05 Thread nia
On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 12:51:44AM +0200, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > On Sun, Apr 04, 2021 at 02:16:41PM -0700, Paul Goyette wrote: > > Perhaps sysinst(8) should ask > > > > Do you need a hyper-secure system? > > > > If yes, then leave things as they are today. But if you answer no, > > we

Re: regarding the changes to kernel entropy gathering

2021-04-04 Thread nia
I have updated the rndctl(8) documentation so it reflects the current model in the kernel and is no longer misleading. It could still use some extra work (e.g. -l could print number of samples collected). On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:03:21PM +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > Btw i track > >

Re: How to determine if graphics is supported by radeondrm?

2021-03-25 Thread nia
r x86 hardware supports a generic unaccelerated full resolutoin dumb UEFI framebuffer. llvmpipe (the software OpenGL driver) will be chosen when this is in use. llvmpipe is very good on CPUs with lots of cores and threads, it is highly paralell. hope this helps, nia

Re: ACPI display brightness on Lenovo Thinkpad T430s

2021-03-11 Thread nia
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 11:23:50AM +0100, Fekete Zoltn wrote: > Hi There, > > Please give me advice how to proceed in the topic below. I want to have the > display brightness working. > > I have traced the route of the brightness buttonpress (up or down) in the > acpi subsystem in the kernel on

Re: hg or git tools for building in base?

2020-11-26 Thread nia
On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 07:34:17AM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: > from tech-lists on freebsd-current emailing list: > > > As subject - what will there be in base to interact with the new git repo? > > I mean, right now, for svn there is svnlite. What for git? > > > Shouldn't it be in base before

Re: recent sysinst UX changesg

2020-11-09 Thread nia
On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 11:03:31AM +, nia wrote: > On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 11:18:31AM +0100, Martin Husemann wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 10:10:56AM +, nia wrote: > > > fwiw, i think the default options should be as close to Just Work as > > > possible. &g

Re: recent sysinst UX changes

2020-11-09 Thread nia
On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 11:18:31AM +0100, Martin Husemann wrote: > On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 10:10:56AM +0000, nia wrote: > > fwiw, i think the default options should be as close to Just Work as > > possible. > > > > i have installed NetBSD irl with people who hav

Re: recent sysinst UX changes

2020-11-09 Thread nia
with the OS on, so it is likely to not have >2015 CPU features (RDRAND). On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 06:51:47AM +0100, Martin Husemann wrote: > On Sun, Nov 08, 2020 at 05:32:16PM +0000, nia wrote: > > after several changes in 9.1 and -current, it's strange to me that the > > option

recent sysinst UX changes

2020-11-08 Thread nia
after several changes in 9.1 and -current, it's strange to me that the option that I expect is the most popular for installing NetBSD (start over, fresh partitions, use the whole disk) is no longer the default option: > d: Delete everything, use different partitions it's option 4! that doesn't

Re: Automated report: NetBSD-current/i386 build failure

2020-10-29 Thread nia
It should be fixed already.

"tsc went backwards" spam on resume

2020-09-19 Thread nia
getting this a lot whenever my laptop recovers from suspend. was it intended? should my laptop not be using TSC as the default timecounter?

Re: "wireguard" implementation improperly merged and needs revert

2020-08-24 Thread nia
Hi Jason, > We still need to protect the unique identity and reputation of > WireGuard (our "brand"). This ensures that when people see the > WireGuard name or logo, they know it is something we, the > WireGuard developers, have worked on." Personally, I would be in favour of entirely rebranding

Re: atexit(), dlclose() and more atexit()

2020-07-05 Thread nia
On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 12:42:55AM +0700, Robert Elz wrote: > Actually, that one is a possible solution. dlclose() is not required > to do anything at all. While having it never do anything isn't what > we'd want, having it do nothing if there is a pending atexit function > from the dynamic

Re: blacklist -> blocklist in current

2020-06-15 Thread nia
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 10:01:57PM -0400, Christos Zoulas wrote: > > Hello folks, > > I've renamed blacklist to blocklist, so if you are currently using it, > you should rename things accordingly: > > - rc.conf variable > - /var/db/blacklist.db file > - npf table name > >

Re: NetBSD 9 on ThinkPad X220

2020-05-28 Thread nia
On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 02:11:08PM +, nia wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 07:24:22PM +0300, Jukka Ruohonen wrote: > > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 07:38:31AM +, nia wrote: > > > Yeah, we really shouldn't be using xf86-video-intel. > > > It's been deprecated in favou

Re: NetBSD 9 on ThinkPad X220

2020-05-28 Thread nia
On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 07:24:22PM +0300, Jukka Ruohonen wrote: > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 07:38:31AM +0000, nia wrote: > > Yeah, we really shouldn't be using xf86-video-intel. > > It's been deprecated in favour of the modesetting driver for years. > > The modesetting(4) dri

exciting new iwm panic (assert fail)

2020-05-25 Thread nia
This driver is stable in 9. At some point, it became horribly unstable in -current. After thorpej's changes it seeems less unstable, it took several days for this to happen: NetBSD r 9.99.63 NetBSD 9.99.63 (R) #6: Fri May 22 23:06:42 IST 2020 nia@r:/home/nia/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/obj/R

-current panics while iwm(4) is in use

2020-04-01 Thread nia
Not reproducable in 9. db> crash> bt _KERNEL_OPT_NARCNET() at 0 _KERNEL_OPT_ACPI_SCANPCI() at _KERNEL_OPT_ACPI_SCANPCI+0x7 sys_reboot() at sys_reboot db_reboot_cmd() at db_reboot_cmd db_command() at db_command+0x13a db_command_loop() at db_command_loop+0xa6 db_trap() at db_trap+0xf9 kdb_trap() at

Re: Not transparent to keyboard, touchpad not working

2020-04-01 Thread nia
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 08:41:11AM -0300, Mandacar Cascavel wrote: > Besides all that, the touchpad buttons of my Lenovo Ideapad are not working > anymore. I have added a mouse to the laptop. Looks like I made a mistake. Can you try a fresh -current?

Re: Two finger scrolling

2020-03-18 Thread nia
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:55:27PM +0900, Ryo ONODERA wrote: > Hi, > > Can I add sysctl node to disable two finger scroll as follows? > > And > https://mail-index.netbsd.org/source-changes/2020/03/14/msg115107.html > is essential for my Synaptics 8.16 TouchPad in HP Sectre x360 13-inch > year

Re: Two finger scrolling

2020-03-18 Thread nia
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:17:23PM +1030, Brett Lymn wrote: > OK, IIRC whether or not you get the click pad button emulation depends > on how the device reports itself - they are only there for one-button > click pads. pms0: Extended W mode, Passthrough, Up/down buttons, Palm detect, One button

Re: Two finger scrolling

2020-03-17 Thread nia
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 05:05:19PM +1030, Brett Lymn wrote: > On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 11:00:09PM +0000, nia wrote: > > I've just committed a handful of changes to synaptics.c that give me > > smooth two-finger scrolling out of the box. > > > > I'm curious how many

Two finger scrolling

2020-03-15 Thread nia
I've just committed a handful of changes to synaptics.c that give me smooth two-finger scrolling out of the box. I'm curious how many others are using multitouch touchpads and whether you notice any improvement. The existing approximation (sysctl hw.synaptics.finger_scroll...) wasn't working for

Re: Audio recording (using ossaudio)

2020-03-14 Thread nia
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 12:20:11AM +0200, Yorick Hardy wrote: > You are correct. I threw together a NetBSD audio driver based on the oss > driver, but it had exactly the same problem. Strangely, I have been unable to > reproduce the problem on an old i386 netbook (so far). > > I wrote a test

Re: Audio recording (using ossaudio)

2020-03-13 Thread nia
On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 08:49:55PM +0200, Yorick Hardy wrote: > Can anyone else record audio correctly via ossaudio? > audiorecord seems to work as long as the frequency > divides the native frequency (see dmesg excerpt below) (I missed this post, but got contacted about it directly off-list. I'm

Re: firefox dumping core after NetBSD upgrade

2019-10-11 Thread nia
On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:05:57AM -0700, bch wrote: > I quit running Firefox on my (-current) laptop months ago because the build > process (rust, esp) was so brutal. Have there been any community efforts to > organize the build artifacts from bleeding-edge environments to avoid > repeating (and

Re: NetBSD on a wireless router?

2019-08-14 Thread nia
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 04:33:41PM +0100, Sevan Janiyan wrote: > Just need a suitable wireless card that performs well in hostap mode on > NetBSD (I have no recommendations as I haven't played). Unfortunately I experienced some performance problems with the wle200nx the hardware comes bundled

Re: increasing number of USB devices

2019-07-29 Thread nia
On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 08:24:14AM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: > --- MAKEDEV.tmpl.~1.204.~ 2019-06-29 15:26:18.320963928 -0400 > +++ MAKEDEV.tmpl 2019-07-29 07:58:25.899384262 -0400 > @@ -913,7 +913,7 @@ ramdisk) > ;; > > usbs) > - makedev usb usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 usb4 usb5 usb6

Re: libva looks for non-existent hw-specific libraries?

2019-07-04 Thread nia
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 02:33:58PM -0500, John D. Baker wrote: > I take this to mean that pkgsrc/modular Xorg is required. "Native" Xorg > need not apply. Foo. Actually, I only tested the update with native x.

Re: What to do with base X11 for netbsd-9 ?

2019-05-29 Thread nia
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 09:12:42AM +0200, Martin Husemann wrote: > So what is you story/opinion: is base X11 usable in -current? If not, > what needs to be done or what hardware needs fixes? Mostly, yeah. It was very broken in 8.0, and MesaLib and video-intel updates mean I no longer need to use