Re: Branching for netbsd-10 next week

2022-12-17 Thread Martin Husemann
On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 01:41:18AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > but I suppose that just reflects a branch existing in the CVS repo. Yes, and also that pullup ticket queues for -10 exist. > I don't see any sign of the branch being supported at, say, > > https://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/ >

Re: Branching for netbsd-10 next week

2022-12-17 Thread Tom Lane
"Thomas Mueller" writes: > A couple days ago, didn't you say the branch was 10 hours away? It says here that the branch has been made: https://releng.netbsd.org but I suppose that just reflects a branch existing in the CVS repo. I don't see any sign of the branch being supported at, say,

Re: Branching for netbsd-10 next week

2022-12-16 Thread Thomas Mueller
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 07:59:35PM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > I will want to update my NetBSD installation from 9.99.82 from source > > and am inclined toward 10.99.1 rather than 10.0_BETA. I use "cvs up > > -dP -A" to update the source on base system and pkgsrc, currently am on >

Re: Branching for netbsd-10 next week

2022-12-16 Thread Thomas Mueller
from nia: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 07:59:35PM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > How will I be able to access (read-only OK) FFS2ea from NetBSD 9.99.82, and > > what about compatibility with FreeBSD regarding file system? I assume no > > compatibility with Linux. > There will be no

Re: Branching for netbsd-10 next week

2022-12-16 Thread Martin Husemann
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 07:59:35PM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: > I will want to update my NetBSD installation from 9.99.82 from source > and am inclined toward 10.99.1 rather than 10.0_BETA. I use "cvs up > -dP -A" to update the source on base system and pkgsrc, currently am on > native X. As

Re: Branching for netbsd-10 next week

2022-12-16 Thread nia
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 07:59:35PM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: > How will I be able to access (read-only OK) FFS2ea from NetBSD 9.99.82, and > what about compatibility with FreeBSD regarding file system? I assume no > compatibility with Linux. > There will be no compatibility with either,

Re: Branching for netbsd-10 next week

2022-12-15 Thread Thomas Mueller
> Just to wrap up this thread: > - branch will probably happen in the next ~10h > - default file system for new installations will be FFSv2 > I will update docs and extend the wiki page about FFS2ea to show how to > switch later, and also provide installation instructions how to

Re: Branching for netbsd-10 next week

2022-12-15 Thread Matthias Petermann
Am 15.12.22 um 11:35 schrieb Martin Husemann: Just to wrap up this thread: - branch will probably happen in the next ~10h - default file system for new installations will be FFSv2 I will update docs and extend the wiki page about FFS2ea to show how to switch later, and also provide

Re: Branching for netbsd-10 next week

2022-12-15 Thread Martin Husemann
Just to wrap up this thread: - branch will probably happen in the next ~10h - default file system for new installations will be FFSv2 I will update docs and extend the wiki page about FFS2ea to show how to switch later, and also provide installation instructions how to select FFSv2ea right

Re: Branching for netbsd-10 next week

2022-12-14 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Martin, Martin Husemann wrote: - unaware users may install FFSv2ea file systems and later find the need to access them from older NetBSD kernels. "Downgrading" them is quite easy using the ufs2ea-flip tool mentioned in the wiki page, but it is not "plug & play". - if FFSv2ea

Re: Branching for netbsd-10 next week

2022-12-10 Thread Martin Husemann
On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 03:28:14PM +0100, Reinoud Zandijk wrote: > related, I think we should really iron out all installation issues that > plagued NetBSD before and were scorned on say Slashdot i.e. provide easy > install/live images with a gui installed, with optional extra variants with > say

Re: Branching for netbsd-10 next week

2022-12-10 Thread Reinoud Zandijk
Hi, related, I think we should really iron out all installation issues that plagued NetBSD before and were scorned on say Slashdot i.e. provide easy install/live images with a gui installed, with optional extra variants with say a complete xfce4 one with FF etc. and provide complete installs like

Re: Branching for netbsd-10 next week

2022-12-09 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Elz writes: > | And it's not just NetBSD > > The relevant issue is, in that NetBSD10 might have EA support, but > perhaps without them being enabled by default on anything, for which > the solution, and its ramifications are a peculiarly NetBSD issue > (the same thing does not apply to

Re: Branching for netbsd-10 next week

2022-12-09 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Fri, 09 Dec 2022 06:48:23 -0500 From:Greg Troxel Message-ID: | Not MESSAGE; this is not a "your hair is on fire" thing. Probably not, but I'm not a samba user (or a user of anything which might use samba) so the importance eludes me. | And it's not just

Re: Branching for netbsd-10 next week

2022-12-09 Thread Martin Husemann
On Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 10:03:46AM +0100, Matthias Petermann wrote: > compatibility. However, if I understand correctly, this only affects new > installations? If I migrate an existing NetBSD 9 to 10, nothing changes in > the file system format. I.e. as long as I do not actively initite the >

Re: Branching for netbsd-10 next week

2022-12-09 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Elz writes: > | - packets from pkgsrc (like samba) will continue to have the > | corresponding options disabled by default > > Those packages could have warnings in DESCR and MESSAGE (or whatever it > is called) advising of the need for FFSv2ea for full functionality. > How

Re: Branching for netbsd-10 next week

2022-12-09 Thread Matthias Petermann
Hello Martin, Am 08.12.22 um 20:21 schrieb Martin Husemann: Now the question: should the default install really use this new FFS type, or should it default to plain FFSv2? thanks for the good news about the branching progress, as well as the good preparation of the topic around the installer

Re: Branching for netbsd-10 next week

2022-12-09 Thread Matthias Petermann
Hello Robert, Am 09.12.22 um 08:55 schrieb Robert Elz: | - packets from pkgsrc (like samba) will continue to have the | corresponding options disabled by default Those packages could have warnings in DESCR and MESSAGE (or whatever it is called) advising of the need for FFSv2ea

Re: Branching for netbsd-10 next week

2022-12-08 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Thu, 8 Dec 2022 20:21:26 +0100 From:Martin Husemann Message-ID: <20221208192126.gb...@mail.duskware.de> | Now the question: should the default install really use this new FFS type, | or should it default to plain FFSv2? I'd suggest FFSv2, but that's not

Branching for netbsd-10 next week

2022-12-08 Thread Martin Husemann
Hey folks, after the EA changes are in current now and all tests look good, we can finally move on and branch for netbsd-10. Proposed date is next wednsday. We have quite a few things to finish before the final release, but this gets things moving - and I hope it will not take more than three