Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

> You still haven't told us what messages are still visible on the > screen. Those are much more important than what's already scrolled > out of view. Lack of a camera should not prevent you from writing the > messages down, and typing them into an email message. > > I tried reboot 0x100 but cou

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

> On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 01:05:14AM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > I could also try to cross-compile from FreeBSD but would want to > > use a newer GCC from ports as opposed to 4.2.1 in the base system. > As has been explained to you before, when you cross-compile NetBSD it > builds and then

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 01:05:14AM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: > I could also try to cross-compile from FreeBSD but would want to > use a newer GCC from ports as opposed to 4.2.1 in the base system. As has been explained to you before, when you cross-compile NetBSD it builds and then uses NetBS

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

> Thomas Mueller wrote: > > Where do I get a serial console, and how do I connect it to a > > computer when there are no serial ports? > My suggestion would be not to bother with the serial console, but > instead take a picture of the screen using a digital camera, type > "bt" at the ddb prompt, t

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

Thomas Mueller wrote: > Where do I get a serial console, and how do I connect it to a > computer when there are no serial ports? My suggestion would be not to bother with the serial console, but instead take a picture of the screen using a digital camera, type "bt" at the ddb prompt, take another

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

> > Basically, I'm lost with the debugger, and the best I can do is type > > "reboot". > As Patrick suggested, please try typing "bt" in the debugger, to get a > back-trace. > > Is there any documentation? > Yes - see "man 4 ddb" > > But I don't think the debugge

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013, Thomas Mueller wrote: Basically, I'm lost with the debugger, and the best I can do is type "reboot". You can write down what's on the screen. Please read and follow the advice in "How to report bugs effectively" . --apb (Alan Barrett)

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013, Thomas Mueller wrote: Just to ask the obvious: did you try without the -c, and if so, what happened? Sure I tried without -c, went into the debugger prompt. At point in the boot process did you end up in the debugger? (What was on the screen?) Did a backtrace "bt" give

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

> > > Just to ask the obvious: did you try without the -c, and if so, what > > > happened? > > Sure I tried without -c, went into the debugger prompt. > At point in the boot process did you end up in the debugger? (What was > on the screen?) Did a backtrace "bt" give any clues? >

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 01:05:14AM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 01:07:45PM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > > After clearing src tree, but saving and putting back CVS subdirectory, I > > > was able to redownload the src tree. > > > > I was then successful (?) building

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

> On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 01:07:45PM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > After clearing src tree, but saving and putting back CVS subdirectory, I > > was able to redownload the src tree. > > I was then successful (?) building and installing NetBSD-current for i386 > > and amd64, building from amd64

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 01:07:45PM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: > After clearing src tree, but saving and putting back CVS subdirectory, I was > able to redownload the src tree. > > I was then successful (?) building and installing NetBSD-current for i386 and > amd64, building from amd64. > > B

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

After clearing src tree, but saving and putting back CVS subdirectory, I was able to redownload the src tree. I was then successful (?) building and installing NetBSD-current for i386 and amd64, building from amd64. But the resulting installation proved nonbootable; apparently init died. I tri

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

Date:Wed, 18 Dec 2013 22:28:47 -0800 (PST) From:"Thomas Mueller" Message-ID: <365452.37125...@smtp111.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> | I have e-mail set up for msmtp and mpop. A PR is just an e-mail message with a particular body format, you can use any mail program you l

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

D 5.4 Live USB http://liveusb-openbsd.sourceforge.net If you want to talk about X not starting, please start a new thread with a new Subject. The current thread is about "NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build" Would www interface work with lynx or links? I built those from pkgsrc.

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

> | A "different compiler" I might use would be a newer version of gcc > That can cause problems - or would if you really were using it the way > that you believe... When building NetBSD, the compiler that needs to > be on the host system (the one you're talking about) is used to build

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

On Dec 18, 9:48am, "Thomas Mueller" wrote: } } > Yes, and you can pass "-V MAKECONF=/etc/makenetbsd.conf" to build.sh } > to make it use that file instead of /etc/make.conf. You could, but it would be much better to just follow the instructions that you've been given. It would be a lot harde

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

On Wed, 18 Dec 2013, Thomas Mueller wrote: A "different compiler" I might use would be a newer version of gcc as opposed to an entirely different compiler (what else for NetBSD, other than llvm/clang?) If you really want the pain of using an unsupported compiler, go ahead, but don't expect mu

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

Date:Wed, 18 Dec 2013 09:48:46 + (UTC) From:"Thomas Mueller" Message-ID: <962636.61603...@smtp120.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> | A "different compiler" I might use would be a newer version of gcc That can cause problems - or would if you really were using it the way

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

> Yes, and you can pass "-V MAKECONF=/etc/makenetbsd.conf" to build.sh > to make it use that file instead of /etc/make.conf. > > I must bear in mind that FreeBSD is much stabler than NetBSD on my > > hardware. > Please report crashes. I don't know whether there's a document on how > to do that,

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

Alan Barrett writes: > On Wed, 18 Dec 2013, Thomas Mueller wrote: >> I just looked in NetBSD's /etc/mk.conf and found the lines >> #if BSD_PKG_MK >> #endif >> with pkgsrc stuff in between, so those lines are still there. > > It should be ".if" and ".endif", not "#if" and "#endif", like this: > >

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

On Wed, 18 Dec 2013, Thomas Mueller wrote: [56 quoted lines] Please trim your quotes! Quote enough to remind readers of the context, and quote anything that you respond to directly, but there's no need to quote the entire message. I could and probably will omit -j parameter with build.sh,

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

> On Dec 17, 1:16pm, "Thomas Mueller" wrote: } > } > A clean build with no special options means at least this: } > } * clean source tree, with no extra or modified files (it might be > } easiest to delete everything and check out a clean source tree); > } * no left over output files or te

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

On Dec 17, 1:16pm, "Thomas Mueller" wrote: } } > A clean build with no special options means at least this: } } * clean source tree, with no extra or modified files (it might be } easiest to delete everything and check out a clean source tree); } * no left over output files or temporary f

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

In article <201312180036.rbi0au7d007...@server.cornerstoneservice.ca>, John Nemeth wrote: > "-j1" is not the same as leaving out "-j" completely and can >have different failure modes. If you want to try a non-parallel >build, it is best to leave out "-j" completely. Absolutely, leaving -j

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

On Dec 17, 3:42pm, Patrick Welche wrote: } On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 01:16:29PM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: } > > A clean build with no special options means at least this: } > } > * clean source tree, with no extra or modified files (it might be } > easiest to delete everything and check ou

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

On Wed 18 Dec 2013 at 00:24:54 +0100, Rhialto wrote: > I haven't tried recently if the proplem persists; for the occasion I have tried it since I found traces of it in a log file for a VAX cross-build. And since the VAX crossbuild is so much faster than an amd64 build, I can now say that the error

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

On Tue 17 Dec 2013 at 21:32:32 +, Michael van Elst wrote: > To me that's an issue with the parallel make. I think I have reported a mysterious problem in parallel makes myself at some point, that other people apparenly don't see. So these kinds of things are rather tricky to debug. Ah here it

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

In article , Michael van Elst wrote: >a...@cequrux.com (Alan Barrett) writes: > >>Is that "unable to rename temporary" message the very first >>error? > >Looks like it. I have seen the same thing twice when building amd64 >with -j4. It does not repeat, even a subsequent update build succeeds. > >

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

a...@cequrux.com (Alan Barrett) writes: >Is that "unable to rename temporary" message the very first >error? Looks like it. I have seen the same thing twice when building amd64 with -j4. It does not repeat, even a subsequent update build succeeds. To me that's an issue with the parallel make.

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, Thomas Mueller wrote: I thought of cleaning out the entire src tree and redownloading/re-cvs'ing, but John Nemeth didn't think that necessary. If your source tree is clean, then downloading again is not necessary. Given all the problems you have had, I am not confident

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 01:16:29PM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > A clean build with no special options means at least this: > > * clean source tree, with no extra or modified files (it might be > easiest to delete everything and check out a clean source tree); > * no left over output fi

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

> A clean build with no special options means at least this: * clean source tree, with no extra or modified files (it might be easiest to delete everything and check out a clean source tree); * no left over output files or temporary files from previous build attempts, such as TOOLDIR,

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

On Sun, 15 Dec 2013, mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: I tried to build this time with MKLLVM=yes HAVE_LLVM=yes MKLIBCXX=yes and again failed. OK ... ===> build.sh command:./build.sh -m amd64 -M ../obj.amd64.llvm -B nb20131214-llvm -T ../tooldir.amd64.llvm -V MKLLVM=yes -V HAVE_LLVM=yes -

NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

I tried to build this time with MKLLVM=yes HAVE_LLVM=yes MKLIBCXX=yes and again failed. ===> build.sh command:./build.sh -m amd64 -M ../obj.amd64.llvm -B nb20131214-llvm -T ../tooldir.amd64.llvm -V MKLLVM=yes -V HAVE_LLVM=yes -V MKLIBCXX=yes -U -j 9 distribution kernel=GENERIC ===> build.s

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

> On Fri 13 Dec 2013 at 09:55:54 +0100, Martin Husemann wrote: > > Since -current had some "hard times" in the last few weeks, and maybe > > not everyone is aware of this site: > > > http://releng.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/builds.cgi > > > shows the status of the last autobuilds. We already had one work

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

On Fri, 13 Dec 2013, Thomas Mueller wrote: I keep getting Internal compiler error, segmentation fault when using base gcc, without any strange or fancy stuff in build.sh command. Please learn to report problems or ask questions more clearly. You could start here:

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

I build amd64 and i386 -current overnight using pkgsrc/sysutils/sysbuild via a cron job: ... $ crontab -l # $NetBSD: crontab,v 1.1 2012/07/25 12:20:08 jmmv Exp $ # crontab(5) file for the unprivileged sysbuild user. PATH=/usr/pkg/bin:/usr/pkg/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin SHELL=/bin/sh # Che

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

> Since -current had some "hard times" in the last few weeks, and maybe > not everyone is aware of this site: > http://releng.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/builds.cgi > shows the status of the last autobuilds. We already had one working > -current (HEAD) build this week, yay! > As

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

On Fri 13 Dec 2013 at 12:08:02 +0100, Rhialto wrote: > Next thing I'll try is adding -V HAVE_LLVM=yes -V MKLIBCXX=yes and see > if it works for me then. I removed all obj directories except for the tools (to save some time), so the build is now already past the creation of libc/libunwind.d. So it

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

On Fri 13 Dec 2013 at 09:55:54 +0100, Martin Husemann wrote: > Since -current had some "hard times" in the last few weeks, and maybe > not everyone is aware of this site: > > http://releng.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/builds.cgi > > shows the status of the last autobuilds. We already had one working > -c

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

Since -current had some "hard times" in the last few weeks, and maybe not everyone is aware of this site: http://releng.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/builds.cgi shows the status of the last autobuilds. We already had one working -current (HEAD) build this week, yay! As you can see there, the stable branc

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 08:20:28AM +, mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: > I keep failing in recent days to update NetBSD-HEAD amd64 from source, > > Previous recent attempts resulted in internal compiler error. > > This time, [...] I still don't understand what you're trying to do, or wh

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

> On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 08:19:53AM +, mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: > > This time, using build.sh as always, I added -V MKLLVM=yes and > > HAVE_LLVM=yes to command line: > For amd64, clang defaults to libc++, so you want -V MKLIBCXX=yes as > well. > Joerg Wiki didn't sa

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

from Rhialto: > My error is > ===> build.sh command:./build.sh -D /vol1/rhialto/destdir.amd64 -m amd64 > -O /scratch2/obj.amd64 -R /vol1/rhialto/release -T /vol1/rhialto/tools.amd64 > -u > +-U -N 1 -X /vol1/rhialto/cvs/xsrc -x -V MKPUFFS=yes -V CHECKFLIST_FLAGS=-em > -V MKLLVM=yes

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 08:19:53AM +, mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: > This time, using build.sh as always, I added -V MKLLVM=yes and HAVE_LLVM=yes > to command line: For amd64, clang defaults to libc++, so you want -V MKLIBCXX=yes as well. Joerg

Re: NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

On Mon 09 Dec 2013 at 08:19:53 +, mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: > I keep failing in recent days to update NetBSD-HEAD amd64 from source, I just did a fresh cvs update and I see something similar, at least seemingly in the same area, going by this line: > --- libunwind.d --- > 1 error gener

NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

I keep failing in recent days to update NetBSD-HEAD amd64 from source, Previous recent attempts resulted in internal compiler error. This time, using build.sh as always, I added -V MKLLVM=yes and HAVE_LLVM=yes to command line: ===> build.sh command:./build.sh -m amd64 -M ../obj.amd64 -B nb

NetBSD-HEAD amd64 refuses to build

I keep failing in recent days to update NetBSD-HEAD amd64 from source, Previous recent attempts resulted in internal compiler error. This time, using build.sh as always, I added -V MKLLVM=yes and HAVE_LLVM=yes to command line: ===> build.sh command:./build.sh -m amd64 -M ../obj.amd64 -B nb