Re: The end of an era, and the dawn of a new one

2012-12-19 Thread David Terei
Ahh that is much better than my initial attempt! Safe Haskell directories added. On 15 December 2012 00:46, Simon Peyton-Jones simo...@microsoft.com wrote: Thanks to David for making a start. I have re-done the page based on his work.

RE: The end of an era, and the dawn of a new one

2012-12-14 Thread Simon Peyton-Jones
Thanks to David for making a start. I have re-done the page based on his work. http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/Contributors Please look! I have begun with a statement about what being an owner means; please help refine it. Also I'm sure I have missed out areas that should be

Re: The end of an era, and the dawn of a new one

2012-12-14 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 01:46:42PM +, Simon Peyton-Jones wrote: Please look! I have begun with a statement about what being an owner means; please help refine it. Perhaps add something like: It does not mean that the owner can make decisions that the community disagrees with.

RE: The end of an era, and the dawn of a new one

2012-12-14 Thread Simon Peyton-Jones
Done. I think we still want the email addresses but I've suggested ccing ghc-devs. Incidentally when will ghc-devs go live? S | -Original Message- | From: cvs-ghc-boun...@haskell.org [mailto:cvs-ghc-boun...@haskell.org] | On Behalf Of Ian Lynagh | Sent: 14 December 2012 15:06 | To:

Re: The end of an era, and the dawn of a new one

2012-12-14 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 03:13:18PM +, Simon Peyton-Jones wrote: Incidentally when will ghc-devs go live? I don't think there's any urgency to the changeover, so I think I'll leave it until January, when I'll have time to fix any problems that might arise. Thanks Ian

Re: The end of an era, and the dawn of a new one

2012-12-12 Thread David Terei
So I had a go at updating the wiki page to reflect ownership / tsar status / maintainers. http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/Contributors This page will probably need to change when reach a conclusion of how we want to frame this responsibility (i.e., owners, maintainers, tsars). The list

Re: The end of an era, and the dawn of a new one

2012-12-12 Thread Manuel M T Chakravarty
David Terei davidte...@gmail.com: So I had a go at updating the wiki page to reflect ownership / tsar status / maintainers. http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/Contributors This page will probably need to change when reach a conclusion of how we want to frame this responsibility

Re: The end of an era, and the dawn of a new one

2012-12-12 Thread David Terei
On 12 December 2012 16:08, Manuel M T Chakravarty c...@cse.unsw.edu.au wrote: David Terei davidte...@gmail.com: So I had a go at updating the wiki page to reflect ownership / tsar status / maintainers. http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/Contributors This page will probably need to

Re: The end of an era, and the dawn of a new one

2012-12-09 Thread Manuel M T Chakravarty
Ian Lynagh i...@well-typed.com: On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 12:32:05PM +, Simon Peyton-Jones wrote: (Narrowing to cvs-ghc for now.) Speaking for myself, I would welcome a code-ownership model along the lines that Ben suggests. If it works well it would a) spread the load b) broaden a

Re: The end of an era, and the dawn of a new one

2012-12-09 Thread Ben Lippmeier
On 09/12/2012, at 10:53 PM, Manuel M T Chakravarty wrote: Ian Lynagh i...@well-typed.com: On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 12:32:05PM +, Simon Peyton-Jones wrote: (Narrowing to cvs-ghc for now.) Speaking for myself, I would welcome a code-ownership model along the lines that Ben suggests. If

Re: The end of an era, and the dawn of a new one

2012-12-07 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 01:49:32PM -0800, David Terei wrote: I think that sounds too involved. How many maintainers would we really be looking at at this point? I think only around 5 - 10 really. So a single file in the root seems easiest. A wiki page feels like a more appropriate place to me,

RE: The end of an era, and the dawn of a new one

2012-12-06 Thread Simon Peyton-Jones
(Narrowing to cvs-ghc for now.) Speaking for myself, I would welcome a code-ownership model along the lines that Ben suggests. If it works well it would a) spread the load b) broaden a genuine sense of ownership c) because of (a) and (b), perhaps encourage more people to participate What

RE: The end of an era, and the dawn of a new one

2012-12-06 Thread Johan Tibell
On Dec 6, 2012 4:39 AM, Simon Peyton-Jones simo...@microsoft.com wrote: (Narrowing to cvs-ghc for now.) Speaking for myself, I would welcome a code-ownership model along the lines that Ben suggests. If it works well it would a) spread the load b) broaden a genuine sense of ownership

Re: The end of an era, and the dawn of a new one

2012-12-06 Thread Simon Marlow
On 06/12/12 15:08, Johan Tibell wrote: On Dec 6, 2012 4:39 AM, Simon Peyton-Jones simo...@microsoft.com mailto:simo...@microsoft.com wrote: (Narrowing to cvs-ghc for now.) Speaking for myself, I would welcome a code-ownership model along the lines that Ben suggests. If it works well it

Re: The end of an era, and the dawn of a new one

2012-12-06 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 12:32:05PM +, Simon Peyton-Jones wrote: (Narrowing to cvs-ghc for now.) Speaking for myself, I would welcome a code-ownership model along the lines that Ben suggests. If it works well it would a) spread the load b) broaden a genuine sense of ownership c)

Re: The end of an era, and the dawn of a new one

2012-12-06 Thread Johan Tibell
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Ian Lynagh i...@well-typed.com wrote: Perhaps we could have maintainers instead? If maintenance can be defined on a per-directory level we can put a MAINTAINERS file in listing maintainers for a directory and all its subdirectories. For example,

Re: The end of an era, and the dawn of a new one

2012-12-06 Thread David Terei
I think that sounds too involved. How many maintainers would we really be looking at at this point? I think only around 5 - 10 really. So a single file in the root seems easiest. The other concern is some components of GHC are all over the place. I'm also the maintainer for Safe Haskell and that

Re: The end of an era, and the dawn of a new one

2012-12-06 Thread Johan Tibell
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:49 PM, David Terei davidte...@gmail.com wrote: I think that sounds too involved. How many maintainers would we really be looking at at this point? I think only around 5 - 10 really. So a single file in the root seems easiest. The other concern is some components of

Re: The end of an era, and the dawn of a new one

2012-12-06 Thread Ben Lippmeier
On 07/12/2012, at 3:32 AM, Ian Lynagh wrote: On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 12:32:05PM +, Simon Peyton-Jones wrote: (Narrowing to cvs-ghc for now.) Speaking for myself, I would welcome a code-ownership model along the lines that Ben suggests. If it works well it would a) spread the load

RE: The end of an era, and the dawn of a new one

2012-12-06 Thread Simon Peyton-Jones
| owner is a very strong word: I think other projects have had problems | where e.g. owners have found themselves without time to deal with | patches submitted, but have been unwilling to let anyone else touch | their code. | | Perhaps we could have maintainers instead? I like owner exactly