Re: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent)

2005-05-05 Thread Bill Hughes
Christopher Faylor cgf-no-personal-reply-please at cygwin.com writes: On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 03:04:24AM -0400, Arturus Magi wrote: Jani Tiainen wrote: Why to reinvent wheel..? You could use existing systems, like Debian package-system (deb), RPM-system like Fedora Core/RedHat, or

Re: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent)

2005-05-05 Thread Brian Dessent
Bill Hughes wrote: YaST from SUSE is now GPL and handles dependencies quite well, the reason I mention it is that as an alternative to the more normal 'pretty' gui it also has a text mode gui-ish interface which may work better with a screen reader/magnifier. I think that as long as we stick

Re: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent)

2005-05-05 Thread Sean McMahon
Message - From: Brian Dessent [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cygwin@cygwin.com Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 5:42 AM Subject: Re: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent) Bill Hughes wrote: YaST from SUSE is now GPL and handles

Re: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent)

2005-05-05 Thread Brian Dessent
Sean McMahon wrote: Is there a cygwin port for this yast which will install cygwin packages? I No. should point out that some of the controlls in setup.exe work. The initial buttons for selecting install from internet, the next and back buttons, the finnish button. It's really the main

Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent

2005-05-04 Thread Carlo Florendo
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 12:57:03AM +0100, Cliff Hones wrote: Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: ... [Yet more boring vitriolic rubbish.] ... I've been on this list for a good four years now, and never ever considered setting up a filter. I came close during the

Re: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent)

2005-05-04 Thread Arturus Magi
Jani Tiainen wrote: Why to reinvent wheel..? You could use existing systems, like Debian package-system (deb), RPM-system like Fedora Core/RedHat, or Gentoo's Emerge. I also seem to recall someone using apt-get in Cygwin-space at one time, but Google doesn't want to be my friend today. --

Re: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent)

2005-05-04 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 03:04:24AM -0400, Arturus Magi wrote: Jani Tiainen wrote: Why to reinvent wheel..? You could use existing systems, like Debian package-system (deb), RPM-system like Fedora Core/RedHat, or Gentoo's Emerge. I also seem to recall someone using apt-get in Cygwin-space at one

Re: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent)

2005-05-03 Thread Max Bowsher
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:39 PM To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent) On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 12:57:18PM -0700, Sean McMahon

RE: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent

2005-05-03 Thread Dave Korn
Original Message From: Cliff Hones Sent: 03 May 2005 00:57 Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: ... [Yet more boring vitriolic rubbish.] ... I've been on this list for a good four years now, and never ever considered setting up a filter. I came close during the fortune flamewars and I'm

Re: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent)

2005-05-03 Thread Jani Tiainen
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:39 PM To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent) On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 12:57

Re: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent)

2005-05-03 Thread Max Bowsher
Jani Tiainen wrote: Why to reinvent wheel..? You could use existing systems, like Debian package-system (deb), RPM-system like Fedora Core/RedHat, or Gentoo's Emerge. All working, proven technologies. Would you like to have a go at porting one of them to Windows, then? Also, what about a GUI? I

Re: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent)

2005-05-03 Thread Jani Tiainen
Max Bowsher kirjoitti: Jani Tiainen wrote: Why to reinvent wheel..? You could use existing systems, like Debian package-system (deb), RPM-system like Fedora Core/RedHat, or Gentoo's Emerge. All working, proven technologies. Would you like to have a go at porting one of them to Windows, then?

Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent

2005-05-02 Thread Sean McMahon
. Many of the buttons and controlls do not get focus and can't be opperated in the normal manner. - Original Message - From: Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cygwin@cygwin.com Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 9:37 PM Subject: Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when

RE: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent

2005-05-02 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
PROTECTED] To: cygwin@cygwin.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:58 PM Subject: RE: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent [snip] Ahem. As one of the many people responsible for setup, I take issue with the accusation that it is either simple

RE: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent

2005-05-02 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean McMahon Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:57 PM To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent I for one appreciate

setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent)

2005-05-02 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 12:57:18PM -0700, Sean McMahon wrote: I for one appreciate the clarification as I sent a detailed bug-report to this person assuming they were the maintainer. My question as I've asked before is, can or is someone working on improving accessibility of setup.exe for those

Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent

2005-05-02 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 03:39:51PM -0500, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: - I am glad that Chris' comments clarified that. Let us all hope that he applies this helpful service across the board, and not just for those who call him on his often bizarre behavior here. Well, except for the false

RE: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent)

2005-05-02 Thread James Renton
What about http://sourceforge.net/projects/wix/? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:39 PM To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance

RE: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent

2005-05-02 Thread Brian Ford
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005, 20:58:44 -0500 Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: As one of the many people responsible for setup... On Mon, 2 May 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: - I am responsible for a good portion of setup's UI. It used to be a series of dialog boxes. It is now a Wizard-style UI. I did

RE: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent

2005-05-02 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
-Original Message- From: Brian Ford Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 5:45 PM To: Gary R. Van Sickle Cc: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: RE: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent On Thu, 28 Apr 2005, 20:58:44 -0500 Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: As one

RE: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent

2005-05-02 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:16 PM To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 03:39:51PM -0500, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: - I am glad that Chris' comments

Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent

2005-05-02 Thread Cliff Hones
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: ... [Yet more boring vitriolic rubbish.] ... I've been on this list for a good four years now, and never ever considered setting up a filter. I came close during the fortune flamewars and I'm getting even more close now. Please, Gary and CGF, can you take your

Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent

2005-05-02 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 12:57:03AM +0100, Cliff Hones wrote: Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: ... [Yet more boring vitriolic rubbish.] ... I've been on this list for a good four years now, and never ever considered setting up a filter. I came close during the fortune flamewars and I'm getting even

RE: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent

2005-04-30 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
Chris, why are you doing this to yourself? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 9:54 PM To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when

Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent

2005-04-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 09:21:08PM -0500, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: Chris, why are you doing this to yourself? Come on, GRVS. You know the answer to that! It's fun! I'm also doing it to help you, as I have repeatedly stated. You now have the outlet you've been craving for almost two years.

Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent

2005-04-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 12:37:38AM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 09:21:08PM -0500, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: Chris, why are you doing this to yourself? Come on, GRVS. You know the answer to that! It's fun! I'm also doing it to help you, as I have repeatedly stated.

Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent

2005-04-29 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 08:58:44PM -0500, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: [snip] Ahem. As one of the many people responsible for setup, I take issue with the accusation that it is either simple or elegant. ;-) In this case, responsible for setup == submitted some patches in 2003 and ignored most

RE: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent

2005-04-29 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 08:58:44PM -0500, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: [snip] Ahem. As one of the many people responsible for setup, I take issue with the accusation that it is either simple or elegant. ;-) In this case, responsible for setup == submitted some patches in 2003 and

Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent

2005-04-29 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 07:06:43PM -0500, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 08:58:44PM -0500, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: [snip] Ahem. As one of the many people responsible for setup, I take issue with the accusation that it is either simple or elegant. ;-) In this

Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent

2005-04-28 Thread fergus
About 3 years ago the then available setup.exe used to work as follows; for some quite long period since, it didn't (the installation hung); now it's back to its old (possibly unintended) functionality. Or so it seems to me. Can anybody confirm? To install Cygwin in full or in part, place all

RE: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent

2005-04-28 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
[snip] Ahem. As one of the many people responsible for setup, I take issue with the accusation that it is either simple or elegant. ;-) -- Gary R. Van Sickle -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html