Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Aaron Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/05/05 09:38PM Maybe we need a vote. I would really like to know how people feel about this. We haven't had a vote in a long time so: How do you feel about the off-color content in the cygwin fortune files? [ ] Offended. Think about the children! [ ] Not

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Bakken, Luke
[X] Not offended. Stop bothering me with your Puritanical values. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Joshua Daniel Franklin
[x] Not offended. Clean it up anyway. It's unprofessional in the extreme and can only result in embarassment and trouble. As a Christian, I agree with Gary. :) As an atheist I always wonder why christians can turn the other cheek but cannot seem to muster how to turn their eyes away!

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Dave Korn
-Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Andrew DeFaria Sent: 06 January 2005 15:49 Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 22:54:16 -0600, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: My write-in candidate: [x] Not offended. Clean it up anyway. It's unprofessional in the

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Mike Dillinger
Message from Christopher Faylor on 01/05/05 08:38 PM PT quoted: How do you feel about the off-color content in the cygwin fortune files? [ ] Offended. Think about the children! [X] Not offended. Stop bothering me with your Puritanical values. [X] Don't care. Can we go back to talking

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Fred Kulack
[ ] Offended. Think about the children! [x] Not offended. Stop bothering me with your Puritanical values. [ ] Don't care. Can we go back to talking about how negative this list is now? But actually would have preferred a. [x] Oh Great! Now I'm gonna have to install fortune. --

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Aaron Miller
[ ] Offended. Think about the children! [ ] Not offended. Stop bothering me with your Puritanical values. [X] Don't care. Can we go back to talking about how negative this list is now? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports:

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Brian Bruns
On Wednesday, January 05, 2005 11:38 PM [EST], Christopher Faylor wrote: How do you feel about the off-color content in the cygwin fortune files? [ ] Offended. Think about the children! [ ] Not offended. Stop bothering me with your Puritanical values. [ ] Don't care. Can we go

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Brian Bruns wrote: and leave it be. We shouldn't be forcing our views on other people. If you leave it be, then that is the view forced on other people. Jeremy C. Reed technical support remote administration

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread R.Powers
Message from Christopher Faylor on 01/05/05 08:38 PM PT quoted: How do you feel about the off-color content in the cygwin fortune files? [ ] Offended. Think about the children! [ ] Not offended. Stop bothering me with your Puritanical values. [ ] Don't care. Can we go back to

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, R.Powers wrote: Message from Christopher Faylor on 01/05/05 08:38 PM PT quoted: How do you feel about the off-color content in the cygwin fortune files? [ ] Offended. Think about the children! [ ] Not offended. Stop bothering me with your Puritanical

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Jeremy C. Reed wrote: On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Brian Bruns wrote: and leave it be. We shouldn't be forcing our views on other people. If you leave it be, then that is the view forced on other people. No view is forced. People must make an effort to find it. If said person doesn't want it then don't go

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Rodrigo de Salvo Braz
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, R.Powers wrote: I don't think it has anything to do with Christianity or Atheism or PC or Free Speech..or being Hip or Coolor forcing anything on anybody.. It's merely obscene crudity. If it's better suited to publication on the wall of a public toilet than

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Rodrigo de Salvo Braz
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Brian Bruns wrote: and leave it be. We shouldn't be forcing our views on other people. If you leave it be, then that is the view forced on other people. If I am not mistaken, Brian had written something above that about warning

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
Ah jeez deFaria: Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 22:54:16 -0600, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: My write-in candidate: [x] Not offended. Clean it up anyway. It's unprofessional in the extreme and can only result in embarassment and trouble. As a Christian, I agree

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
On Wednesday, January 05, 2005 11:38 PM [EST], Christopher Faylor wrote: How do you feel about the off-color content in the cygwin fortune files? [ ] Offended. Think about the children! [ ] Not offended. Stop bothering me with your Puritanical values. [ ] Don't care.

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Raye Raskin
The problem seems simple to me. A filthy Limerick is not a Fortune. The program is misnamed. Call it something else or just put fortunes in it. Confucius say: Man who have sex on ground have Peace on Earth. Can it be that simple? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Charles Wilson
Christopher Faylor wrote: How do you feel about the off-color content in the cygwin fortune files? [ ] Offended. Think about the children! [ ] Not offended. Stop bothering me with your Puritanical values. [ ] Don't care. Can we go back to talking about how negative this list is now? [ ]

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
Andy, Andy, Andy: Jeremy C. Reed wrote: On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Brian Bruns wrote: and leave it be. We shouldn't be forcing our views on other people. If you leave it be, then that is the view forced on other people. No view is forced. People must make an effort to find it. If said

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, R.Powers wrote: I don't think it has anything to do with Christianity or Atheism or PC or Free Speech..or being Hip or Coolor forcing anything on anybody.. It's merely obscene crudity. If it's better suited to publication on the wall of a public

Re: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-06 Thread Charles Wilson
Corinna Vinschen wrote: That's cool. Thanks for doing this. The way you do it is probably the best alternative. I would find it very annoying if the offensive jokes would just go away. It doesn't matter if one loves or hates these jokes, or if somebody feels offended. It's a matter of free

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: [snip] Jesus Tapdancing Christ you people, did I accidentally stumble into a junior highschool or something? Heh. You *just* noticed? :-D Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 06:13:40PM -0800, Raye Raskin wrote: The problem seems simple to me. A filthy Limerick is not a Fortune. The program is misnamed. Hmm. Ever heard of grep or ls? Fortune is much closer to being named something that makes sense than several other programs in the

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: [snip] Jesus Tapdancing Christ you people, did I accidentally stumble into a junior highschool or something? Heh. You *just* noticed? :-D Igor BHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAH!! Touche, mon ami! Touche! -- Gary R. Van

Re: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-06 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Charles Wilson wrote: Yes and no, Corinna. Merely having them on the harddrive in a company computer could be construed as creating a hostile work environment -- leading to liability issues for the company and employment issues for the unsuspecting cygwin user. Any company firing me for

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote Ah jeez deFaria: That's clever! Did you come up with that all by your lonesome? As an atheist I always wonder why christians can turn the other cheek but cannot seem to muster how to turn their eyes away! As a thinking man, I always wonder why atheists: 1. Hate

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Raye Raskin
- Original Message - From: Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cygwin@cygwin.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 6:57 PM Subject: Re: Obscene content in cygwin file. On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 06:13:40PM -0800, Raye Raskin wrote: The problem seems simple to me. A filthy Limerick

RE: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-06 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
Charles Wilson wrote: Yes and no, Corinna. Merely having them on the harddrive in a company computer could be construed as creating a hostile work environment -- leading to liability issues for the company and employment issues for the unsuspecting cygwin user. Any company

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: If it's better suited to publication on the wall of a public toilet than on the wall of your living room, for all to ponder and appreciate, then why keep it. That already carries a judgment reflecting your values. Certainly the people who included them in fortune

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 07:12:57PM -0800, Raye Raskin wrote: - Original Message - From: Christopher Faylor Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 6:57 PM Subject: Re: Obscene content in cygwin file. On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 06:13:40PM -0800, Raye Raskin wrote: The problem seems simple to me

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Jon A. Lambert
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: I made no effort to find Cygwinized profanity. I stumbled across a program named fortune one day, which I was told printed out corny sayings etc, and installed it. Then I forgot about it. Then, some time later, I was told that what I thought was a program written with

Re: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-06 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: Any company firing me for creating a hostile work environment for such a matter as this is, in my book, not a company I wish to work for. YMMV. Nor I. In fact, I doubt many would disagree. But then, many have mouths to feed, and may not have the luxury of wishing. Then

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Raye Raskin
- Original Message - From: Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cygwin@cygwin.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 7:21 PM Subject: Re: Obscene content in cygwin file. On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 07:12:57PM -0800, Raye Raskin wrote: - Original Message - From: Christopher Faylor

RE: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-06 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: Any company firing me for creating a hostile work environment for such a matter as this is, in my book, not a company I wish to work for. YMMV. Nor I. In fact, I doubt many would disagree. But then, many have mouths to feed, and may not have the luxury

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 07:30:13PM -0800, Raye Raskin wrote: Huh? The name fortune is close to what it does. It sort of displays fortune cookie like stuff. Labelling a program like grep with a English word that has no bearing on its functionality is not a correct analogy. Sorry my remarks went

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Jon A. Lambert
Raye Raskin wrote: The problem seems simple to me. A filthy Limerick is not a Fortune. The program is misnamed. Call it something else or just put fortunes in it. alias limerick=fortune -o -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports:

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Rodrigo de Salvo Braz
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: That already carries a judgment reflecting your values. Certainly the people who included them in fortune thought otherwise. If they had thought otherwise, they wouldn't have included them in the first place. As a licensed nerd mind-reader, I

Re: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-06 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: Then you have no sense of self-worth. Sorry to hear that. 1. ? 2. Kiss my fortune-o, DeFaria. Now I'm sure you have little self-worth... This has nothing to do with what year it is. Yeah, it does. For the first time in history, there are now two lawyers for every human

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Edward Peschko
That already carries a judgment reflecting your values. Certainly the people who included them in fortune thought otherwise. If they had thought otherwise, they wouldn't have included them in the first place. As a licensed nerd mind-reader, I can tell you exactly the thought process

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Raye Raskin
Huh? The name fortune is close to what it does. It sort of displays fortune cookie like stuff. Labelling a program like grep with a English word that has no bearing on its functionality is not a correct analogy. Sorry my remarks went over your head. I don't think a filthy limerick is in any

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Brian Bruns
Personally, I thought that them doing this was a sign of a more innocent time, where we didn't have to worry about every single word that came out of our mouth (or keyboard). Seriously guy, your type is one of the primary reasons why the internet is getting - its not quite there yet, but

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-06 Thread Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 10:28:26PM -0500, Jon A. Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: I made no effort to find Cygwinized profanity. I stumbled across a program named fortune one day, which I was told printed out corny sayings etc, and installed it. Then I forgot about

Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-05 Thread Kal.Dee
Hi all, Not sure if the highly obscene limericks (/usr/share/fortune/limerick) are meant to be in the cygwin distro... Kalman Dee Canberra, OZ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation:

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-05 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
Hi all, Not sure if the highly obscene limericks (/usr/share/fortune/limerick) are meant to be in the cygwin distro... Kalman Dee Canberra, OZ Um, yeah, I have to second that. And I don't even want to know what the French ones say. A little on the blue side, Powers That Be, and by a

fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-05 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 02:36:53PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure if the highly obscene limericks (/usr/share/fortune/limerick) are meant to be in the cygwin distro... Wow. I think I vaguely recall that something like this was in fortune but, if I thought it was a good idea a couple of

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-05 Thread Brian Bruns
On Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:58 PM [EST], Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: Hi all, Not sure if the highly obscene limericks (/usr/share/fortune/limerick) are meant to be in the cygwin distro... Kalman Dee Canberra, OZ Um, yeah, I have to second that. And I don't even want to know what

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-05 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 11:32:14PM -0500, Brian Bruns wrote: Remember, alot of these have been in the fortunes package for god knows how long, and Cygwin isn't the only one thats going to have them. I'm betting that any distro that has the Fortunes package has them too. Right. The README of the

Re: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-05 Thread Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 11:26:08PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 02:36:53PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure if the highly obscene limericks (/usr/share/fortune/limerick) are meant to be in the cygwin distro... Wow. I think I vaguely recall that something

Re: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-05 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 08:40:16PM -0800, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 11:26:08PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 02:36:53PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure if the highly obscene limericks (/usr/share/fortune/limerick) are meant to be in

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-05 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
On Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:58 PM [EST], Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: Hi all, Not sure if the highly obscene limericks (/usr/share/fortune/limerick) are meant to be in the cygwin distro... Kalman Dee Canberra, OZ Um, yeah, I have to second that. And I don't even want to

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-05 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 11:32:14PM -0500, Brian Bruns wrote: Remember, alot of these have been in the fortunes package for god knows how long, and Cygwin isn't the only one thats going to have them. I'm betting that any distro that has the Fortunes package has them too. Right. The

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-05 Thread Zachary Uram
I agree. As a Christian I find such fortune comments disgusting and they should be burned. Zach On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 22:54:16 -0600, Gary R. Van Sickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 11:32:14PM -0500, Brian Bruns wrote: Remember, alot of these have been in the fortunes

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-05 Thread Steve Baldwin
Maybe the package maintainer could consider building two packages : a 'clean' fortune and rename the current package to 'fortune-xxx'. I have no idea how easy or difficult this is, but it would satisfy both camps. Steve -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-05 Thread Joshua Daniel Franklin
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 22:54:16 -0600, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: My write-in candidate: [x] Not offended. Clean it up anyway. It's unprofessional in the extreme and can only result in embarassment and trouble. As a Christian, I agree with Gary. :) I actually think it's an upstream bug. The

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rant Maybe we should all wear helmets and seatbelts when at the keyboard too, just so nobody gets hurt. This political correctness makes me think of what it must have been like in the USSR in 1955. Remember what Bobby Slaton says, If you can't laugh at yourself... ...make fun of other people!

RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

2005-01-05 Thread Volker Bandke
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [ ] Offended. Think about the children! [x] Not offended. Stop bothering me with your Puritanical values. [ ] Don't care. Can we go back to talking about how negative this list is now?

Re: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

2005-01-05 Thread Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 11:47:35PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 08:40:16PM -0800, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 11:26:08PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 02:36:53PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure if the

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