Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-14 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[SNIP] Please provide the URL of such a reply. Stating that a thing is so without proof is not useful. Glad you ask. Examine thread Crontab problems MID [EMAIL PROTECTED] it shows my point. I see many people patiently answering newbie questions here. Surely everyone has seen

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-03 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Well there you name a group, the biggest lusers (Herr von Wourms) are to be found right here. They will spam, underquote, forget to snip etc. If you want to use email use an email client or be quit. I'm afraid to say I don't see how this is relevant to the discussion. I don't use usenet,

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-02 Thread raphael
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 02:59:12AM +, Soren A wrote: raphael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote around 01 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is just arogance nothing more. At least it shows a complete unawareness of reality. You will never ever change a MS-Word user into a

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread raphael
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 07:22:35PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: However, this really side steps the issue. Five hundred How do I get to the previous command in bash? questions are not going to lead to new insight about cygwin. Yes they will. These questions are asked by starting users

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 09:30:53AM +0100, raphael wrote: On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 07:22:35PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: However, this really side steps the issue. Five hundred How do I get to the previous command in bash? questions are not going to lead to new insight about cygwin. Yes

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread raphael
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 08:58:17PM +0200, Lisi wrote: Yes, your question made me wonder if it wouldn't be nice to have a cygwin-unix-questions mailing list, but then it occurred to me that then we'd have endless and indignant discussions of whether something is cygwin or unix-specific.

RE: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread Lane, Frank L
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 9:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin) snippage -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread raphael
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 10:37:35AM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: a mail server [No Reverse DNS] with no reverse DNS entry. X-RBL-Warning: This E-mail was routed in a poor manner consistent with spam [2103]. X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 10:25:00AM -0500, Lane, Frank L wrote: As a newbie to cygwin I'd like to put a comment in on this one. Even if people are brusque, without being a downright rude, newbie's, like moi, learn and more importantly are helped to learn what questions are apropos on what lists.

RE: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread Robinow, David
From: raphael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin) On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 10:37:35AM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: Please provide the URL of such a reply. Stating that a thing is so without proof is not useful. Glad

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 02:14:27PM -0400, Robinow, David wrote: From: raphael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin) On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 10:37:35AM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: Please provide the URL of such a reply

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread Soren A
Eduardo Chappa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote around 30 Sep 2002 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. edu: I have finally decided that it would seem a little _strange_ if i _didn't_ get my 2c in here since some (with overall historical memory of past posts) will recall some rather strident messages authored by me.

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread Christopher Faylor
[I don't seem to be able to stick to my vows about not responding lately, but I couldn't let this one go. Just hit delete now. There's nothing useful here.] On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 11:58:58PM +, Soren A wrote: So, the existence or non-existence of Gmane doesn't have much to do with

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread Soren A
Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote around 01 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [I don't seem to I've replied to Chris off-list. Please, don't anyone follow-up to this message. Please. There's no need for it and nothing of value would be accomplished. Thanks,

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-10-01 Thread Soren A
raphael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote around 01 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is just arogance nothing more. At least it shows a complete unawareness of reality. You will never ever change a MS-Word user into a VIM or EMAC user. And why would you? I have to say that I

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Thomas Mellman
20020926063518 dot GA1292 at raphael dot oninet dot pt The Cygwin list seems to do fine, though a beginners list would be nice. I would definitely appreciate a beginner's list, one where we could ask questions like Hey, I'm not even sure if this is a Cygwin question or a specific

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Lisi
OK, let me clarify - I guess what I would really like is a Cygwin-specific *Unix* beginner's list. My desire is not to get rid of stupid questions, since I think all my questions are probably stupid, but rather the questions that are just over my head and make me feel like I will never be at

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 02:31:35PM +0200, Lisi wrote: Maybe I should just join a Unix newbie list, any suggestions are appreciated. The standard suggestion, use google: http://www.google.com/search?q=unix+newbie cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug

Re: Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 01:54:54PM +0200, Thomas Mellman wrote: The only thing I'm missing is a nice way to directly reference an entry that I read on the maillist server so that I get merged into the thread. As it is, I'm switching to raw-text, grabbing the Referenced-Mail (or whatever it's

RE: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Zieg, Mark
OK, let me clarify - I guess what I would really like is a Cygwin-specific *Unix* beginner's list. My desire is not to get rid of stupid questions, since I think all my questions are probably stupid, but rather the questions that are just over my head and make me feel like I will never be

Re: Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Philippe Bastiani
Hi, Either actually read the mailing list via email as intended or read it via news. We can read/write messages via news.gmane.org server... But, IMHO, a group of discussion would be very useful: for the beginners, for 'repeat' questions and problems, ..., for any debat concerning Cygwin!

Re: Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Eduardo Chappa
*** Philippe Bastiani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) Either actually read the mailing list via email as intended or read :) it via news. :) :) We can read/write messages via news.gmane.org server... :) :) But, IMHO, a group of discussion would be very useful: for the :) beginners, for

Re: Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Lisi
Yes, your question made me wonder if it wouldn't be nice to have a cygwin-unix-questions mailing list, but then it occurred to me that then we'd have endless and indignant discussions of whether something is cygwin or unix-specific. That's the point of a cygwin-unix list, questions can be

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Michael A Chase
On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Eduardo Chappa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For these reasons, I completely support the idea of creating an independent newsgroup. So file the proposal. -- Mac :}) ** I normally forward private questions to the appropriate mail list. ** Ask Smarter:

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Eduardo Chappa
*** Michael A Chase ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Eduardo Chappa :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :) :) For these reasons, I completely support the idea of creating an :) independent newsgroup. :) :) So file the proposal. Sure, I can do that, but what

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 11:54:56AM -0700, Eduardo Chappa wrote: *** Michael A Chase ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Eduardo Chappa :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :) :) For these reasons, I completely support the idea of creating an :) independent

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 04:02:39PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 11:54:56AM -0700, Eduardo Chappa wrote: *** Michael A Chase ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Eduardo Chappa :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :) :) For these

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Eduardo Chappa
*** Christopher Faylor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 11:54:56AM -0700, Eduardo Chappa wrote: :) *** Michael A Chase ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) :) :) On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Eduardo Chappa :) :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :) :) :) :) For

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread raphael
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 04:02:39PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 11:54:56AM -0700, Eduardo Chappa wrote: *** Michael A Chase ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Eduardo Chappa :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :) :) For these

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Jeremy Hetzler
At 10:48 AM 9/30/2002 -0700, Eduardo Chappa wrote: Finally, one of the advantages about a separate newsgroup is that people would feel more confortable asking a question. The cygwin mailing list tries very hard to have people not to ask questions (search the FAQs first, look for a better mailing

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Eduardo Chappa
*** Jeremy Hetzler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) A group that does all the work to answer anyone's question, no matter :) how obvious the answer or easy to find it is elsewhere, no matter that :) it is the hundredth time it has been asked that week? Yes, that sounds :) like a wonderful

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 03:28:00PM -0700, Eduardo Chappa wrote: Let me tell you how I see this. When I've supported Pine, I haven't looked at the content of the question as much as I've looked at the value of the answer. Just to give you an example, someone once asked me if Pine supported

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Eduardo Chappa
*** Christopher Faylor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) [some comments deleted] :) :) However, this really side steps the issue. Five hundred How do I get :) to the previous command in bash? questions are not going to lead to new :) insight about cygwin. That's what we're talking about. I

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 05:16:53PM -0700, Eduardo Chappa wrote: *** Christopher Faylor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: It's basically a situation in which you don't want to be involved, and that's fine, but why complain about it, if it's not going to affect you in any way. I don't see the

RE: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-27 Thread Chris Game
In an earlier post, Chris January said... Tried the Cygwin TWiki? http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~ccj00/twiki/bin/view/Cygwin It's maintained by NanFudd aka Charles Howes. Just make a page for beginner's questions there. Hopefully some helpful souls will check back every so often ;) The

RE: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-27 Thread Chris January
Tried the Cygwin TWiki? http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~ccj00/twiki/bin/view/Cygwin It's maintained by NanFudd aka Charles Howes. Just make a page for beginner's questions there. Hopefully some helpful souls will check back every so often ;) The internal URLs don't seem to be set up

RE: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-27 Thread Thomas Mellman
RE: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin) From: Chris January chris at atomice dot net The internal URLs don't seem to be set up right; but there's some interesting things on there, thanks. Oops - I broke that yesterday when trying to get external URLs to pop

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-26 Thread raphael
On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 07:24:19PM -0700, Michael B. Parker wrote: Regarding the thread Moving to Usenet? (www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2000-07/msg00275.html) (which I found by via www.google.com/search?q=site:cygwin.com+usenet to see who else also wanted discussions on Usenet): I WILL FIRMLY

Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-26 Thread Lisi
The Cygwin list seems to do fine, though a beginners list would be nice. I would definitely appreciate a beginner's list, one where we could ask questions like Hey, I'm not even sure if this is a Cygwin question or a specific application question but could anyone help... The amount of

RE: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-26 Thread Chris January
The Cygwin list seems to do fine, though a beginners list would be nice. I would definitely appreciate a beginner's list, one where we could ask questions like Hey, I'm not even sure if this is a Cygwin question or a specific application question but could anyone help... The amount of