Re: RFD: cygwin + *native* MinGW compiler

2009-02-10 Thread Greg Chicares
On 2009-01-29 05:08Z, Charles Wilson wrote: Greg Chicares wrote: On 2009-01-28 05:28Z, Charles Wilson wrote: Forgive my delay in thanking you for taking so much time to point out the many issues with what I'm doing. Perhaps the worst problem was this: An incidental oddity is that the

Re: RFD: cygwin + *native* MinGW compiler

2009-01-29 Thread Danny Smith
At: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2009-01/msg00848.html Charles Wilson said: Greg said I use '--build=i686-pc-mingw32 --host=i686-pc-mingw32'. Here: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libtool-patches/2009-01/msg00193.html you say that's lying to 'configure', but you also observe that I'm in

Re: RFD: cygwin + *native* MinGW compiler

2009-01-29 Thread Charles Wilson
Danny Smith wrote: The reasons I use --build=mingw32 --host=mingw32 --target=mingw32 when building gcc are 1) I have, perhaps mistakenly, assumed that --build= referred to the OS of the compiler, not the ethnicity of the shell. I've assumed it was describing the entire build environment:

Re: RFD: cygwin + *native* MinGW compiler

2009-01-29 Thread Charles Wilson
Charles Wilson wrote: [describe old libtool behavior; what I called current gcc libtool] 1) creates both a wrapper script foo and wrapper exe foo.exe in the build directory, and also (?) a copy of the wrapper script in .libs/ 2) the wrapper exe execs the wrapper script via $SHELL 3) the

Re: RFD: cygwin + *native* MinGW compiler

2009-01-28 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Charles Wilson wrote: Right, if I'm building a compiler. I'm not -- although that wasn't very clear, since the only examply I gave was Danny's incantation for building gcc, a compiler. Oops. I'm talking about building, say, ncurses so that

Re: RFD: cygwin + *native* MinGW compiler

2009-01-28 Thread Ralph Hempel
Charles Wilson wrote: Pursuant to a discussion on the libtool list, I'm trying to get a feel for how many cygwin users rely on the cygwin environment to drive the *native* MinGW gcc compiler. That is, incantations like this: snip I find myself bouncing around between cygwin and mingw because

Re: RFD: cygwin + *native* MinGW compiler

2009-01-28 Thread Vincent R.
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:38:47 -0500, Ralph Hempel rhem...@bmts.com wrote: Charles Wilson wrote: Pursuant to a discussion on the libtool list, I'm trying to get a feel for how many cygwin users rely on the cygwin environment to drive the *native* MinGW gcc compiler. That is, incantations like

Re: RFD: cygwin + *native* MinGW compiler

2009-01-28 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:14:40AM -0600, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: Charles Wilson wrote: This led to a suggestion that --build=cygwin --host=mingw32 should always be interpreted as: mingw32-gcc is a cygwin-hosted cross compiler, NOT the native MinGW-project supported gcc (and if it IS the native

Re: RFD: cygwin + *native* MinGW compiler

2009-01-28 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 04:05:55PM +0100, Vincent R. wrote: Actually I am using cygwin because there are many packages, adn a good installer but I will switch completely to mingw if I could get the same. Couldn't be possible to share more things between the two projects ? I mean for instance

Re: RFD: cygwin + *native* MinGW compiler

2009-01-28 Thread Roger Wells
Charles Wilson wrote: Pursuant to a discussion on the libtool list, I'm trying to get a feel for how many cygwin users rely on the cygwin environment to drive the *native* MinGW gcc compiler. That is, incantations like this: 1a) cygwin$ some-src-pkg/configure \ --build=i686-pc-cygwin

Re: RFD: cygwin + *native* MinGW compiler

2009-01-28 Thread Claude Sylvain
Charles Wilson wrote: Pursuant to a discussion on the libtool list, I'm trying to get a feel for how many cygwin users rely on the cygwin environment to drive the *native* MinGW gcc compiler. - I currently use Cygwin for cross-platform development of software and firmware. - I use

Re: RFD: cygwin + *native* MinGW compiler

2009-01-28 Thread Reini Urban
Charles Wilson schrieb: I just want to get an idea of how many people are currently, actually, successfully, doing something like 1a) or 1b) above. I never do serious cross-compiling from or to mingw in a cygwin shell. When testing mingw I do it from cmd.exe and the mingw toolkit and no

Re: RFD: cygwin + *native* MinGW compiler

2009-01-28 Thread Greg Chicares
On 2009-01-28 05:28Z, Charles Wilson wrote: Greg Chicares wrote: On 2009-01-28 02:21Z, Charles Wilson wrote: Pursuant to a discussion on the libtool list, I'm trying to get a feel for how many cygwin users rely on the cygwin environment to drive the *native* MinGW gcc compiler. I use the

Re: RFD: cygwin + *native* MinGW compiler

2009-01-28 Thread Kai Raphahn
Charles Wilson wrote: Pursuant to a discussion on the libtool list, I'm trying to get a feel for how many cygwin users rely on the cygwin environment to drive the *native* MinGW gcc compiler. That is, incantations like this: [snip] I hope this is considered on-topic here, because I'm

Re: RFD: cygwin + *native* MinGW compiler

2009-01-28 Thread Charles Wilson
Greg Chicares wrote: On 2009-01-28 05:28Z, Charles Wilson wrote: First, thanks for your detailed response. It was very helpful. Do you use gnu-style configured projects (autoconf, automake, libtool, all that?) -- or some other build framework? Yes. I use autotools to build native versions

RFD: cygwin + *native* MinGW compiler

2009-01-27 Thread Charles Wilson
Pursuant to a discussion on the libtool list, I'm trying to get a feel for how many cygwin users rely on the cygwin environment to drive the *native* MinGW gcc compiler. That is, incantations like this: 1a) cygwin$ some-src-pkg/configure \ --build=i686-pc-cygwin --host=mingw32 \

Re: RFD: cygwin + *native* MinGW compiler

2009-01-27 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 09:21:59PM -0500, Charles Wilson wrote: I hope this is considered on-topic here, because I'm interested in the uses of the cygwin environment itself. It's certainly on-topic. I'd be interested in the responses too. cgf -- Unsubscribe info:

Re: RFD: cygwin + *native* MinGW compiler

2009-01-27 Thread Warren Young
Charles Wilson wrote: Pursuant to a discussion on the libtool list, I'm trying to get a feel for how many cygwin users rely on the cygwin environment to drive the *native* MinGW gcc compiler. I do half of what you're asking: use Cygwin's bash shell as an environment to drive mingw32-make on

Re: RFD: cygwin + *native* MinGW compiler

2009-01-27 Thread Greg Chicares
On 2009-01-28 02:21Z, Charles Wilson wrote: Pursuant to a discussion on the libtool list, I'm trying to get a feel for how many cygwin users rely on the cygwin environment to drive the *native* MinGW gcc compiler. I use the native MinGW compiler in a Cygwin environment, successfully, many

Re: RFD: cygwin + *native* MinGW compiler

2009-01-27 Thread Charles Wilson
Greg Chicares wrote: On 2009-01-28 02:21Z, Charles Wilson wrote: Pursuant to a discussion on the libtool list, I'm trying to get a feel for how many cygwin users rely on the cygwin environment to drive the *native* MinGW gcc compiler. I use the native MinGW compiler in a Cygwin environment,

Re: RFD: cygwin + *native* MinGW compiler

2009-01-27 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Charles Wilson wrote: This led to a suggestion that --build=cygwin --host=mingw32 should always be interpreted as: mingw32-gcc is a cygwin-hosted cross compiler, NOT the native MinGW-project supported gcc (and if it IS the native MinGW one,

Re: RFD: cygwin + *native* MinGW compiler

2009-01-27 Thread Charles Wilson
Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: Charles Wilson wrote: This led to a suggestion that --build=cygwin --host=mingw32 should always be interpreted as: mingw32-gcc is a cygwin-hosted cross compiler, NOT the native MinGW-project supported gcc (and if it IS the native MinGW one, expect breakage). I'm not