On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 06:29:27PM -0500, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
Andrew DeFaria wrote:
IOW what's the advantage of an sftp client over just plain scp?
Directory listings. Unless I miss something, it's hard to scp a file when
you don't already know its path.
PLEASE. This thread has lasted
Thorsten Kampe wrote:
Andrew, please, stop it.
Why? Because I disagree with you?
Do you really don't understand the difference between a simple command
line tool like scp and a client that offers extended functionality?!
Yes I understand the difference. What I don't understand is the
Thorsten Kampe wrote:
This is no flaming war. It's just nonsense to say everything I can
do with foo I can do with bar, too.
Actually, no, it's not nonsense at all. In fact it's a very good argument!
Of course you can do everything you can do with mutt also with telnet
to port 110. It's not
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
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On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 11:09:41PM -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
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Does your
Christopher Faylor wrote:
Gary's evaluation of the situation was correct. This thread has
devolved into an uninteresting argument about whether sftp is useful
to you or not. What you don't seem to be getting is that no one
besides you finds this very interesting.
Give it a rest please. The
Andrew DeFaria wrote:
IOW what's the advantage of an sftp client over just plain scp?
Directory listings. Unless I miss something, it's hard to scp a file
when you don't already know its path.
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2007, Robert Kiesling wrote:
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On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 11:10:57PM -0400, Igor Peshansky wrote:
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007, Robert Kiesling wrote:
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* Andrew DeFaria (Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:19:00 -0700)
DePriest, Jason R. wrote:
sftp gives you a familiar FTP shell; it is not just a command you run
I understand that.
you can list the files on the remote system and make decisions about
what files you want instead of requiring that knowledge
Thorsten Kampe wrote:
* Andrew DeFaria (Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:19:00 -0700)
DePriest, Jason R. wrote:
sftp gives you a familiar FTP shell; it is not just a command you run
I understand that.
you can list the files on the remote system and make decisions about
what files you want instead of
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* Andrew DeFaria (Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:19:00 -0700)
DePriest, Jason R. wrote:
sftp gives you a familiar FTP shell; it is not just a command you run
I understand that.
you can list the files on the remote system and make decisions about
what
* Robert Kiesling (Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:57:32 -0400 (EDT))
* Andrew DeFaria (Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:19:00 -0700)
DePriest, Jason R. wrote:
sftp gives you a familiar FTP shell; it is not just a command you run
I understand that.
you can list the files on the remote system and make
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Thorsten Kampe wrote:
* Andrew DeFaria (Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:53:25 -0700)
Much less than the possibility of scp being present. And I'm not
necessarily against the idea of well go out and get a working copy
of these programs but often clients do not give consultants that
privilege.
If your
On 9/14/07, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
Thorsten Kampe wrote:
* Andrew DeFaria (Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:53:25 -0700)
Much less than the possibility of scp being present. And I'm not
necessarily against the idea of well go out and get a working copy
of these programs but often clients do not give
On 9/14/07, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
Thorsten Kampe wrote:
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Command line tool. IOW why go through the bother to set up an sftp
server (I assume that needs to be set up) and picking and getting an
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vi /etc/sshd_config
uncomment line: Subsystem sftp
DePriest, Jason R. wrote:
sftp provides you with an FTP command set where scp does not
that's about the only thing I can think of that makes a difference;
seems like a compelling reason if you are going to be doing complex
transfers, but if you are more familiar and comfortable with scp, then
On 9/14/07, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
DePriest, Jason R. wrote:
sftp provides you with an FTP command set where scp does not
that's about the only thing I can think of that makes a difference;
seems like a compelling reason if you are going to be doing complex
transfers, but if you are
DePriest, Jason R. wrote:
sftp gives you a familiar FTP shell; it is not just a command you run
I understand that.
you can list the files on the remote system and make decisions about
what files you want instead of requiring that knowledge beforehand
Simple. Just ssh remotemachine ls /path.
* Andrew DeFaria (Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:49:49 -0700)
Thorsten Kampe wrote:
* Andrew DeFaria (Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:48:58 -0700)
John J. Culkin wrote:
I am seeing an issue with Cygwin's sftp. It seems that after I upload
a file that overwrites an existing file, the writable bit is removed.
Thorsten Kampe wrote:
* Andrew DeFaria (Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:49:49 -0700)
Thorsten Kampe wrote:
* Andrew DeFaria (Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:48:58 -0700)
John J. Culkin wrote:
I am seeing an issue with Cygwin's sftp. It seems that after I upload
a file that overwrites an existing file, the writable
On 12 September 2007 15:44, John J. Culkin wrote:
Hello
I am seeing an issue with Cygwin's sftp. It seems that after I upload a
file that overwrites an existing file, the writable bit is removed. This
prevents me from uploading a new version of the file.
The files are owned by the SFTP
On 13 September 2007 16:53, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
I guess I'm saying is that if yafc, lftp and SpeedCommander can do sftp
then scp will also work (no?).
No.
snip self-serving justification for not answering OP's question in any shape
or form based on this non-sequitur
cheers,
* Andrew DeFaria (Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:53:25 -0700)
Thorsten Kampe wrote:
* Andrew DeFaria (Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:49:49 -0700)
Thorsten Kampe wrote:
* Andrew DeFaria (Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:48:58 -0700)
What is sftp good for? I mean what does it
have
over say... scp?
You can use your
John J. Culkin wrote:
Hello
I am seeing an issue with Cygwin's sftp. It seems that after I upload
a file that overwrites an existing file, the writable bit is removed.
This prevents me from uploading a new version of the file.
The files are owned by the SFTP user.
Any Ideas?
No ideas but a
* Andrew DeFaria (Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:48:58 -0700)
John J. Culkin wrote:
I am seeing an issue with Cygwin's sftp. It seems that after I upload
a file that overwrites an existing file, the writable bit is removed.
This prevents me from uploading a new version of the file.
The files are
Thorsten Kampe wrote:
No ideas but a question. What is sftp good for? I mean what does it have
over say... scp?
You can use your favourite FTP client, right?!
No, that's ftps. sftp is a protocol on top of a ssh session like scp.
Brian
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* Brian Dessent (Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:38:51 -0700)
Thorsten Kampe wrote:
No ideas but a question. What is sftp good for? I mean what does it have
over say... scp?
You can use your favourite FTP client, right?!
No, that's ftps. sftp is a protocol on top of a ssh session like scp.
Thorsten Kampe wrote:
No, that's ftps. sftp is a protocol on top of a ssh session like scp.
Aah, you mean I'm only dreaming when I connect to my ssh server with
my favourite commandline FTP clients like lftp and yafc? Time to stop
taking all these heavy hallucinogens...
Sigh. No, it
* Brian Dessent (Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:50:07 -0700)
Thorsten Kampe wrote:
No, that's ftps. sftp is a protocol on top of a ssh session like scp.
Aah, you mean I'm only dreaming when I connect to my ssh server with
my favourite commandline FTP clients like lftp and yafc? Time to stop
Thorsten Kampe wrote:
I didn't imply that - by pure magic - any FTP client is also able to
speak SFTP. By the way that's also true for FTPS, right?!
You may not have meant to imply that, but you said you can use your
favorite FTP client without any further qualification whatsoever.
Someone
Thorsten Kampe wrote:
* Andrew DeFaria (Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:48:58 -0700)
John J. Culkin wrote:
I am seeing an issue with Cygwin's sftp. It seems that after I upload
a file that overwrites an existing file, the writable bit is removed.
This prevents me from uploading a new version of the file.
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