ername and password munged, but I get the same results when I
have my real UN & PW in (what I believe to be) the proper exim.conf
locations.
So is it a Cygwin problem, an exim problem, or a Gary problem? I'll let you
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exim.conf
reference to
> > `_X509_free'
> >
> >I commented the line out and I got an executable
> which I could
> > install and run,
>
> I don't know what the right fix would be.
>
This one lives in libcrypto.a. The attached configure.in a
[snip]
>
> This one lives in libcrypto.a. The attached configure.in and
> an autoconf solve the link error for me (don't know if it
> actually works yet).
Just tested it, works great.
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Never mind, I got ssmtp to work over SSL. ${EXIM_MAINTAINER} might want to
check if what I was trying to do can actually be done on Cygwin though.
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Didier BRETIN
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> Subject: Re: Updated: Mutt-1.4.2.1i-1
>
> Hello Gary,
>
> Gary R. Van Sickle a
[snip]
> From you debug output:
> 204.127.134.146 in hosts_avoid_esmtp? yes (matched
> "imailhost.worldnet.att.net")
> not sending EHLO (host matches hosts_avoid_esmtp)
>
> If you don't send EHLO, the functionality is reduced.
>
> Pierre
>
I get the
"Once sent, your message will be reviewed by one of the cygwin-announce
moderators and, once approved, will be automatically forwarded to the cygwin
mailing list with an [ANNOUNCEMENT] prepended to the subject."
This never happened with the latest mutt release AFACT.
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> On May 25 03:15, Gary R. Van Sickle wro
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> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: Mutt-1.4.2.1i-1
>
> Hello.
>
> "Gary R. Van Sickle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > I have updated the version of mutt on cygwin.com to 1.4.2.1i-1.
>
&g
ating it), you are starving
the rest of the system for RAM, and then you start hitting your pagefile.
== slow.
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he link I sent -- clicking on links is even
> easier than
> >running the sample code).
>
> Yes. You're right. I should have clicked on the link rather
> than assuming. I had a knee jerk reaction to what I thought
> was a company expecting cygwin tech support. I was
ucida Console-bold-14"' part sets the font and its size.
> Many thanks in advance.
>
> Cheers,
> Mohammad Khadhrawi
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<< waits for CR >>
which I believe indicates the problem you reported is still present in that
snapshot.
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uses the
newlib C library (which doesn't support them). Are 5.3 and 5.4+ linked
differently? See what "cygcheck nedit.exe" says. I don't know why you'd
get different results with the older version, since again locales weren't
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>
> Thank you for answer Gary :-)
> The nedit 5.3 is probably not from cygwin distribution, but I
> don't know from where I downloaded it a few years ago.
> Probably at that time the nedit was not yet distributed as a
> cygwin package.
Well, from your cygcheck
le that gets put in the real /usr/bin
FWIW.
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Roy Wiseman wrote:
> I agree that Symantec are a bit of satanic corporation,
Wow, I've never heard it put so correctly and succinctly. Perhaps the new
Pope can help us all out and exorcise Symantec, McAffe, and Google Desktop
Search.
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Configuring wxWindows from cvs, on a 3.4GHz P4:
Sh = Ash:
real3m55.351s
user5m8.610s
sys 1m53.240s
Sh = Bash:
real3m41.850s
user5m6.220s
sys 1m53.426s
Looks like the time has come.
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conclusion we must jump to is that, at least on a machine as awesome as
mine, the shell used as /bin/sh is not a bottleneck.
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ONFIG_SHELL=/bin/sh.
>
> FWIW, I did find that the configure scripts I tested ran
> faster under ash than under bash, but only by 4% to 8%.
>
> Regards
> Thorsten Dahlheimer
Wait... So everybody's *always* been using bash during configures?
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Hence:
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e fork() concept was a good idea, indeed how they ever even
thought it up ("Oh my, wouldn't it be nice if I could magically duplicate
the entire state of my app in a new process, even though there has never
been a reason to do so?"), so my life's goal is to eliminate fork() enti
not implement the /dev directory.
>
Actually it has for a while now.
> I'm afraid there is no cygwin command to find out the order
> of devices plugged to the system although I'd be glad if
> someone corrects me and says that there is.
>
You're correct here tho
gt;
Not if you're careful.
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[snip]
>> For filename completion, the following might help
>> .inputrc:
>> set completion-ignore-case on
>> set bell-style none
>>
Oh nonono dude, gotta have the completion bell, that's the best part!
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> :-)
>
You should also apologize for offering the new information that a single CPU
PIII is neither a hyperthreaded machine nor a multiprocessor machine, yet
fails a test case which heretofore has been reported to only have problems
on hyperthreaded and/or multiprocessor machines.
Charles
No problems here, but my network usage with Cygwin is pretty much limited to
cvs (client) and wget these days. Autotools, gcc, and friends seem to have
no problems.
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> But Cygwin doesn't emulate all of Posix, only parts of it, right?
>
Most of it. And what Cygwin don't have, you don't want. ;-)
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> Well, nearly any native UNIX tool would be confused by CRLF
> endings. If you are going to use Windows and UNIX tools like
> that then you sort of get what you deserve, IMO. Just stick
> with Cygwin CVS and you'll be all set.
...as long as you don't put the rep
also explicitly use lockf() etc?
Yikes.
If so (and I must be missing something there), couldn't this be implemented
in Windows simply as named mutexes, with the names being some
suitably-chosen derivative of the file name? You wouldn't even need to do
any explicit sharing between Cygwin
> On Aug 26 22:48, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> > Well, I just did my 2 minute due diligence and looked up the
> > difference between advisory and mandatory file locking. Did I read
> > right? Does advisory locking actually in no way prevent
> write access to the &quo
oogle faster than they can search the contents
of their harddisk. A ridiculous state of affairs of course, but here we
are.
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>
> FWIW,
> Kate Ebneter
> iPod Build Engineer
> Apple Computer, Inc.
Um, just out of curiosity... Why is Apple using a Unix emulation running on
Microsoft Windows to do their builds?
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[um... snip]
> on my own. I bought every one of those computers. The VIC,
> the 128, the Amiga, The Tandy, the 286, the 386, the Compaq
> Presario and now an HP.
1. So *YOU* are the other guy who bought a C-128! I knew I wasn't the only
one!
2. What in blazes are you talking ab
is used when you're quoting
something that's erroneous or misspelled, but you want to convey that you
didn't make the error when transcribing the quote:
"Blah bl-blah blah blha (sic) blah blah."
I think it's Latin for "yep, that's what the man said".
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these problems by having a header telling you what
codepage the email was composed in, but if the mutt ML is any indication it
seems to be spottily implemented. With your garden variety text file,
you're just SOL.
Welcome to the 21st century, where computers can't even unambiguously
repr
all
> references to POSIX and UNIX from that description.
>
Nor I, nor apparently many others, especially when the replacement is simply
not correct. And anyway, if it's going to be a "Linux emulation layer", it
better be changed to "GNU/Linux emulation layer" or
quot;.
HHehehehehee! Man I love that one!
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> Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
>
> >Welcome to the 21st century, where computers can't even
> unambiguously
> >represent written text.
> >
> >
> Isn't this something unicode was meant to solve?
Yes, and if implemented properly, it mostly does.
>
> On Sep 9 21:24, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > > : nudge our legal department again.
> > > >
> > > > I'll be waiting. (This will give me more time to test
> > > readdir_r, once
> > > > I decide how to keep
[snip]
> I'll restrain myself in the future, and will keep learning
> from the list how to be helpful without being shot down.
Wow, did YOU stumble into the wrong mailing list!
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[snip]
> As far as I can tell the O_BINARY changes are good to have.
>
> Earl
>
Well, mandatory if standards are to be cloven to and tragedy is to be
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Huh, works with rxvt as well. Never used to. Wonder who fixed that when.
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Chris,
Did you build the 9-15 snapshot with the newlib problem? I'm getting the
same symptom as the ones that did, i.e. bash hangs on startup and you never
get a prompt.
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Wget appears to still work.
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> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 11:07 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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create a separate console which
> the GUI could then use, however.
Here's a maybe-less-icky way to do it. Have two exes, one "setup.exe" which
is a 100% command-line program that normally just spawns "winsetup.exe", the
current GUI setup, and goes away. Give it &quo
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2004, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
>
> > [snip]
> > > >I thought if a GUI app called printf it generally caused
> a console
> > > >to be opened for it. Maybe that's only with msvcrt. In
> any case,
> > > >the fact is
er console, that console will be used.
>
I should have added, "...in the context in question." I though sure that
this was already tried, and whoever was doing it was unable to get a usable
console handle and eventually gave up. What the problem may have been, or
even if I'm rem
hesied almost two thousand years ago!:
"But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first." -
Matthew 19:30
Aaaaahhhh! It's the rapture! Quick, get the CR/LF thing solved before God
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solution here is to open the file in binary
mode and handle the various EOL chachter combinations in the SpamAssasin
code. Which, yeah, is unfortunately reinventing a wheel which should have
been "permanently reinvented" in the last century. But hey, it's only the
first few years of
> Both rxvt and the cmd.exe window only support 16 colors.
Welcome to 1983. I at least hope they include those horrid CGA colors.
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t that would make too much sense, so I for one shall not hold my breath.
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I thought it didn't matter, especially since it's in the HTML at
the top of every archive page
(http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2005-06/) anyway.
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Don't know. That's not even a word!
>
I used to play the Concludion in my high-school marching band. I was never
very good, and I never did figure out what all those left-hand buttons were
for, but man oh man, did it ever get me the chicks!
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[snip]
>
> Looks like a clash between the two compilers.
COMPILER FIGHT! ;-)
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pers."
>
> -- Frodak
>
Weren't we supposed to have ditched filesystems entirely by now, and be
storing all of our ASCII text files with their completely-intractable
combination of "\r\n"/"\n"/"\r" line endings in some sort of object-oriented
database
en you do, be sure to publish a writeup in a prestegious journal so
the rest of us can finally solve the mystery. ;-)
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ng with
> spaces"' | awk -F'"' '{ print $2 }'
> results in
> /thing with spaces
>
> Ken
I don't follow; why not just use sed and be done with it? Sed is good at
regex, and regex is the best solution to this problem. Give to Caesar what
is Cae
at cygstart and Luc Hermitte's cyg-wrapper.sh
> (http://hermitte.free.fr/cygwin/)
>
Thanks for that link Morche; I probably knew about this but never tried it.
Should come in pretty handy.
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s own stack.
>
This ain't the Good Old Days, and you're not writing a task switcher, which
is the only legitimate reason to be doing what you're trying to do.
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ld not scan the drive for all links and update
> them, for that would be absurd.
A slightly less absurd notion would be for Cygwin to keep a list of all
links and update them.
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of things are
> "legitimate"?
No, just an old country programmer who can recognize the "wrong
problem+wrong solution=disaster" situation when he sees it.
> Do you actually realise that not all computer languages can
> be implemented with a model of one stack?
>
> From: "Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> >In the post you're replying to, I listed the legitimate reasons for
> >wanting to do it. Here they are again:
> >
> >- If you're writing a task switcher.
>
> And what's the difference between a task swi
around all your crazy malloc'd stacks? Seriously
Chris, how is it that you can come up with all these wild... Schemes... and
yet you can't just admit you've taken a wrong turn at Albequerque and do
things in a sane way?
Whatever, I'm with Faylor. Good luck, and good night nur
d device anyway).
You should see if there is a firmware upgrade available for it.
Then again, I know firsthand that Microsoft had USB Mass Storage pretty
wildly wrong as late as the release of XP SP...2 I think, maybe 1, so who
knows, could be MS's fault.
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them to cause more problems than they solved, but who knows, you might get
lucky.
> So that being said, why can't the cygwin libraries be linked
> statically?
>
An entirely separate issue, and completely unrelated to writing Windows
drivers. It would do you no
Cgf wrote:
[snip]
> I think it's a pretty hard problem and I really don't care
> about POSIX
??? This must be a typo, or you wouldn't be here.
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lps!!!
"POSIX-Brand Breakfast Cereal: Eases The Pain*"
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> Here's a new one to add to that: Windows XP x64 uses *two*
> program files
> directories:
>
> C:\Program Files
> C:\Program Files (x86)
>
Oh God, they didn't.
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;s necessary.
Any program that doesn't open all files, except text files, with "rb", is a
counterexample to this.
Again, I 100% share the notion that text mounts should not be necessary.
But when even such basic apps as tar get this wrong, I simply don't see how
anybody can r
ny further discussion there. Reply-To set accordingly.
>
(Oops, apparently not! ;-))
Well, any LF/CRLF religious debate perhaps belongs there. But religious
issues aside, the change you're proposing is a major change to long-standing
Cygwin functionality that would affect a large
Configures and builds cvs wxWidgets here with no observed problems.
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ously, if you are seeing this, then it
> succeeded.
>
Sorry, it still didn't work.
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> tedious
Not for much longer, if a certain googly-eyed letter of the alphabet has
anything to say about it!
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Ok, whatever snapshot this is:
"1.5.19s(0.138/4/2) 20050914 20:32:51"
Configures, builds, and installs a working wxWidgets here (same wxW's cvs as
yesterday).
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> not allowing the dll to be redistributable?
>
>
> Any insight/info would be appreciated.
The DLL isn't being redistributed, so? I don't follow.
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them due to static linking.
No, it doesn't. The .lib you linked to is a stub. It doesn't contain any
part of the DLL code, regardless of how much of the library you use. IIUC,
the .lib under discussion isn't even of Microsoft origin; it's generated by
a Cygwin or Mingw prog
A cvs pull of wxWindows configured and built fine here.
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> Subje
tate this as an axiom: There is not a single soul who is in
love with Cygwin's setup.
> and simply build an additional install-and-upgrade
> program that
> uses the same "back-end" technology/interfaces and presents something
> different to the user?
>
We thought of that several years ago. Problem is, there is no "backend" -
we inherited a codebase with a tightly interwoven GUI and business logic.
Since then, the GUI has been improved dramatically, innumerable defects have
been fixed, several features have been added, and some work has gone into
separating the business logic.
That work was, as far as I know, all gratis. Now, if you're eating the
bread from the sweat of another man's brow, as you claim to be doing, it
seems to me that the best way to get what you want is to contribute to the
program's improvement in some manner, rather than ranting against the hand
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tate this as an axiom: There is not a single soul who is in
love with Cygwin's setup.
> and simply build an additional install-and-upgrade
> program that
> uses the same "back-end" technology/interfaces and presents something
> different to the user?
>
We thought of that several years ago. Problem is, there is no "backend" -
we inherited a codebase with a tightly interwoven GUI and business logic.
Since then, the GUI has been improved dramatically, innumerable defects have
been fixed, several features have been added, and some work has gone into
separating the business logic.
That work was, as far as I know, all gratis. Now, if you're eating the
bread from the sweat of another man's brow, as you claim to be doing, it
seems to me that the best way to get what you want is to contribute to the
program's improvement in some manner, rather than ranting against the hand
that's feeding you.
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think it's mainly hand-rolled makefiles these days, but IIRC if somebody's
using crusty enough autotools they'll get configures that do this to you.
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> From: mwoehlke
[snip]
> Cygwin also has an rxvt terminal emulator that may be more to
> your liking, but I haven't used it and so can't tell you what
> it's like.
It's awesome, if you're still using the DOS box change over immediately.
Believe me now
> From: mwoehlke
> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 10:44 AM
> Subject: Re: copying and pasting in the terminal window?
>
> Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> >> From: mwoehlke
> >> Cygwin also has an rxvt terminal emulator that may be more to your
> >> likin
> From: G.W. Haywood
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 4:53 AM
> Subject: RE: copying and pasting in the terminal window?
>
> Hi there,
>
>
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
>
> > ... The main trick is (or at least used to be) getting
> y
e when you see an LF that could perhaps have actually
> >been a CR/LF. What we really want is
>
> AFAIK, Cygwin's lseek should handle seeking on text streams.
> DJ implemented that years ago.
>
Last I looked, which was admittedly also years ago, it was "#if
ke
[...]
real23m13.115s
^^ 18 seconds saved (approx. 1%)
user3m56.285s
sys 3m2.261s
So, I shall take that 18 seconds to also thank you for your great work. ;-)
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Proble
ile I'm all for saving a cycle here and there (q.v. the
1% make improvement ;-)), I have a hard time believing that ignoring the
occaisional "\r" is even a blip on bash's radar compared with fork()ing et
al.
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ine endings. Also,
make sure any other tools you might wish to use to process text, cygwin or
non-cygwin, do the same."
The "/r/n vs /n vs /r" Crisis Which Shall Plague Computer Science Forever is
most assuredly not merely a matter of "don't use notepad".
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reat,
great, great, greatgreatgreat grandchildren will be able to creat a plain
text file on one computer and have it be understood on another.
But I wouldn't put money on it.
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new bash
> invocation. Also, you must consider how things should work
> when stdin is a pipe containing \r\n data, since with pipes,
> you can't prescan the first line of input to see what it
> contains because you can't rewind afterwards.
>
What's going to br
solved (or will be when the next Cygwin build is released).
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required by POSIX
> can do so.
Is this the reason? If so, do you know why POSIX requires this? At some
point POSIX compliance ceased to be a goal of the Cygwin project, so I don't
see that as an argument either way.
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more specifics i'll provide them. I can't simply
> test this because I don't have the driver, and i won't buy it
> ($900) unless i feel assured that i will be able to make it
> work, hence this email.
>
> Regards,
>
> George Locke
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of a stackdump file, it is obviously human
> > readable. It is an ascii file which has English words in
> it. It was
> > NOT clear to me that the OP had actually looked at it.
>
> Others obviously did understand that; [snip]
Eli, you need to take this discussion
I don't mean a proof-of-principle; I'm
sure a suitable example can be contrived. What I'm looking for is a shell
script "in the wild" that purposely has a carriage return embedded in it for
reasons other than ending a line of the script.
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troubles.
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or
two interactive shells and leave them up all day) that it's not an issue for
me.
> BTW, nobody has yet to suggest a solution to my original
> problems - XWin won't die during Windows shutdown.
Try Xming as your X server instead, I've never seen this problem with it.
(one instance) + Xming comes out to ~20MB total, ~6MB for urxvt
and ~14MB for Xming.
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