Re: setup.exe troubles

2005-04-06 Thread Michael A Chase
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 14:32:26 +0100, Max Bowsher wrote:

 Bernhard Ege wrote:
 I have accidently overwritten some of the mirrors that setup.exe offers
 and I would like it to start out fresh. My problem is however that I
 cannot see anyway to reset the list.

 So, how do I make setup.exe reinitialise the offered mirror list?
 
 I don't understand. The mirror list is reloaded from cygwin.com every time 
 setup.exe runs.

Perhaps he is talking about the saved list of mirrors that will be used.
Deleting /etc/setup/last-mirror will clear that.

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Re: Couple of scripts to remove duplicate packages

2005-01-22 Thread Michael A Chase
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:56:10 -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 08:48:11AM -0500, Jonathan Arnold wrote:
 Igor Pechtchanski wrote:

 That's a nice attempt.  However, I can see that you're not aware of
 Michael Chase's clean_setup.pl (which does that and much, much more).
 Google for it.

 It is here if you are interested:

 http://home.ix.netcom.com/~mchase/zip/
 
 Should this be a cygwin (or maybe a cygutuils) package?

I originally wrote it as a stop-gap until setup.exe provided a way to
remove obsolete packages.  The other options came from user suggestions.

You should have a release on file for me.  Anyone who wants to add the
script to a package is welcome to. The only dependency would be the main
Perl package.

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New dependency for perl-5.8.2-1

2003-11-08 Thread Michael A Chase
When I tried to run 'perl -v', I got a complaint about cygcrypt-0.dll not
being found.  The error went away after I installed the crypt package.

Crypt is not listed in Perl's requires line in setup.ini. I am not sure if
this is a completely new dependency since I only run WinXP every few
weeks.

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Re: [Fwd: Re: Cygwin shell here]

2003-10-10 Thread Michael A Chase
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:51:46 -0600, bob wrote:

 That fails when I try to run it:
 
 Unknown key prefix.  Valid prefixes are:
root
HKCR
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT
config
HKCC
HKEY_CURRENT_CONFIG
user
HKCU
HKEY_CURRENT_USER
machine
HKLM
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
users
HKU
HKEY_USERS
 Access is denied.
 
 I don't  what it is complaining about or how to fix it.

See if my attempt works.  It doesn't require any changes to .bash_profile
or .bashrc.  It assumes you have installed Cygwin in c:\cygwin, so you may
need to change that.  I think you need administrator access to the
registry to install it.

http://home.ix.netcom.com/~mchase/zip/Bash_This.reg

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Re: list manager: please remove e-mail address from 2003-08/msg01549

2003-08-30 Thread Michael A Chase
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 02:04:35 +0200, Krzysztof Duleba wrote:

 Christopher Faylor wrote
 I ask again: why aren't fake adresses allowed? I'd love to know the
 policy that stands behind it.

 There is no reason for you to use your real address in your message if
 the site policy bothers you so much (hint:
 cgf-rcm-SPLAT-cygwin-PERIOD-com is not my real address).
 
 How could I do that if I use news.gmane.org server? It doesn't allow me
 to type in any fake address - every new one is checked whether it exists
 or not. Address taken from from field must be valid.

http://gmane.org/tmda.php

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Re: sorry about the spam

2003-08-26 Thread Michael A Chase
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 22:49:35 -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:

 I just checked in a new version of the spam blocker which worked well in
 testing but died a horrible death in production.
 
 Sorry about the spam/viruses that came through.

It should give us a better appreciation for how much you normally stop.

Thank you.

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Re: patch to cygwin1.dll

2003-03-10 Thread Michael A Chase
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:39:28 +0100 COTTO Daniel FTRD/DMI/CAE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you want, you can use this patch and you can add it to a next 
 version of cygwin1.dll.

Please read http://cygwin.com/contrib.html .

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Re: /etc/setup/setup.cfg ?

2003-03-09 Thread Michael A Chase
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 16:38:57 - Max Bowsher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
  There have been bits of persistent state that people wanted to store
  for setup.  I'm proposing an Xdefaults-style setup.cfg in /etc/setup.
  If we compile a list of things to go in there, I could write a parser
  for it (I don't think it merits yacc, like the one for setup.ini :-D).
 
 Ok, but we need to decide: Is this going to be user-edited, or
 setup-edited?
 I.e., there is no point in allowing comments, if they get removed every
 time setup re-writes the file.

There is probably no harm in allowing comments, just have the first
one written by setup warn that the file is generated by setup so manual
changes will be overwritten.

Being able to tweak it manually would be useful even if it is replaced
by setup each run.  For example, it would be an easy way to
temporarily remove a mirror.

Keeping /etc/setup/timestamp separate might still be useful.

 Also, what do we do about multi-valued items - e.g. which mirrors are
 selected. (Or do we just continue with the legacy storage for
 last-mirror/last-cache/timestamp?)

I'd prefer to see all the persistent setup information in one place.
I was going to suggest moving the mirror list to the new file, but you
beat me to it.

As for what to do before the mount points are created, what happens
to the mirror list now if all the user does is download files and
Cygwin isn't installed locally?

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Re: cygwin rsync bug with windows shares

2003-03-03 Thread Michael A Chase
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:22:49 -0500 Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am *so* tempted to add a filter to strip this crap out of email sent
 here.

 On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 09:05:27AM -, Sheridan, David wrote:

 PLEASE READ: The information contained in this email is confidential
 and intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not an intended
 recipient of this email you must not copy, distribute or take any 
 further action in reliance on it and you should delete it and notify the
 sender immediately. Email is not a secure method of communication and 

Perhaps it would be better for us all to just follow the instructions
and notify the sender since it wasn't sent to any of us specifically.

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Re: Advocacy

2003-03-03 Thread Michael A Chase
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:22:16 -0800 (PST) Peter A. Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote:
 
  On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 09:42:16AM -0800, Peter A. Castro wrote:

 I feel that you should review their responses to you, determine if they
 are truely striking out at you because of your companies policies, and
 respond back.  Yes, email them back!  Make them put their money where
 their mouths are and justify their complaints.  Anyone who really
 participates on this list will tell you that they back up every word with
 something stronger than just fist waving.  If they can't or won't, then
 just ignore them.

 As someone who publicly commented on this ludicrous disclaimer, let me just
 note that I fully understand that people who post to the list have no
 
 Ah ha!  S, it was you! You, CGF, who caused Sheridan such strife! :)
 
 control over the disclaimers.  However, if you take them at face value
 you could easily come to the conclusion that the sender could be in violation
 of company policy or, worse, could be assuming that you are implicitly
 accepting their policies.

Or we are simply demonstrating that they have no legal standing.
It seems similar to the hassle Chris goes through to make sure
the Cygwin license stays enforceable except no one is following up.

 His companies disclaimer was actually quite sparse, compared with some of
 the people who post from the really big companies, or from some of the
 government facilities (at least, those who are *allowed* to post :).  I
 am curious, though.  Was it just the general sense of the disclaimer that
 caused you to comment, or was there something in particular in it that
 tweeked you? 

What got me was that all that verbiage covers about as much of the
company's backside as Gypsy Rose Lee's costume.  Probably less, since
they often go on outgoing mail that has wide distribution so it never
gets enforced.  I suspect the ones mandating those things have their
secretary read all their email so they never see them.

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Re: Solving: Quotes in $PATH not translated properly

2003-02-24 Thread Michael A Chase
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:22:54 +0100 Harald Kierer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 a current problem when invoking cygwin is: if the Windows PATH
 variable has quoted paths then cygwin won't translate those paths to
 POSIX properly, so you end up with an incomplete $PATH:
 
 T:\binecho %PATH%
 C:\Program Files\abc;[...]

Are the quotes absolutely necessary inside %path%?  If not, removing
them would be a useful workaround.

 So when I start a login bash everything is nice:
 
 T:\srcbash --login
 
 [/t/src] $ echo $PATH
 /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/c/Program Files/abc:[...]

 My remaining problem:
 We launch a lot of scripts from the DOS Box, like 'sh script.sh'.
 This doesn't invoke the profile. How can I launch this path-parser-script
 every time a bash or ash gets started?

Just like you show above, with --login.  -rcfile is also possible.
One problem with doing either blindly is that /etc/profile might
change the current directory.  See
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~mchase/zip/Bash_This.reg for some example
one liners that work around that problem.

If the scripts expect to be called from a DOS prompt, something like
the following inside them might help:

   if [ -z $PS1 ]; then
  cwd=$PWD
  . /etc/profile
  cd $cwd
   fi

It would be easier to launch your scripts from a normal bash prompt
if at all possible.

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Re: Installation problem, file cygintl-2.dll missing

2003-02-20 Thread Michael A Chase
On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:08:47 + (UTC) Roger Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Today I attempted to install Cygwin on a Windows 2000 system, downloaded
 the files first using setup.exe, then ran setup to install. All packages
 were selected for download and installation, and setup was run from
 an account with administrative privileges.
 
 During the installation I received several diagnostic messages stating:
 
   The dynamic link library cygintl-2.dll could not be found
   in the specified path
 
 After intallation, upon running Cygwin I get the same error, repeated
 3 times, and the following messages during initialization:
 
   bash: mkdir: command not found
   bash: /bin/grep: No such file or directory
   bash: /usr/bin/kpsexpand: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
   bash: cd /home/Rogblake: No such file or directory
 
 The bash shell prompt then comes up in /usr/bin and a lot of basic programs
 don't seem to work work (i.e., trying to run ls gives the error No such
 file or directory).
 
 I searched the system's hard drives (C: and D:) and cannot find this DLL
 file, which I assume is at the root of the other problems. I've done some
 searching in the archives and via google.com and have not yet found an
 answer -- any info on fixing this would be greatly appreciated!

http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_2.html#SEC13

It looks like you are missing ash, fileutils, grep, and libintl2 at
the very minimum.

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How to get out of cygwin mail lists

2003-01-19 Thread Michael A Chase
On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:00:48 +0100 Peppino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snipped totally irrelevant text from 'reply-to'

I doubt this will do much good since you didn't read the responses to
the last person who sent such a request to the list, but if you visit
(http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple) and follow the instructions
given there you should be able to unsubscribe from this list.

The same URL is at the bottom of every message sent through the list,
including your request.

If the instructions in 1. Unsubscribing, simple are not sufficient,
look at the sections in the web page immediately below there for
successively more difficult situations.

Addresses for help and unsubscribing are also in the headers of every
message sent through the list.

If none of that is sufficient, email your problem to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] as mentioned under 4. Unsubscribing,
I'm desperate.  Sending it to this list just annoys everyone else and
doesn't get you out of the list.

There is also a webform available at http://cygwin.com/ml/#faqs if you
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Re: PATCH: libwin32 0.191 builds and tests on Visual Studio, Cygwin, MinGW and Borland5.5.1

2003-01-12 Thread Michael A Chase
On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:50:16 +0100 Rafael Kitover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It would be incredibly cool if this patch could be applied to the
 libwin32 currently on CPAN, as that was its purpose. If there is
 anything I can do to make this a reality, please let me know.

The package maintainer is Gurusamy Sarathy [EMAIL PROTECTED];
talk to him about getting your patch applied to the base source.
It looks like you did a lot of work and I'm sure it will be
appreciated.  I'm sure he'll be glad to include it as long as it
doesn't break anything in the ActivePerl releases.

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Re: Default Text File Type

2003-01-12 Thread Michael A Chase
On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 14:25:19 -0600 Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could someone explain the meaning and implications of the Setup option to
 select Default Text File Type ( DOS or Unix)? I couldn't find it in the
 FAQ or User's Manual.

http://cygwin.com/faq/faq.html#TOC74

http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/highlights.html#OV-HI-TEXTVSBINARY

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Re: Updated: OpenSSH-3.5p1-3

2003-01-11 Thread Michael A Chase
On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 18:54:08 -0800 John David Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

   When attempting to install this update I get an error message saying that
   cygwin1.DLL is not installed.  Where do I get it and how do I install it,
   since the automated install process can't?

Setup.exe doesn't depend on cygwin1.dll.  Any postinstall scripts
probably do, but they should be able to find the dll if the rest of
the installation isn't corrupted.

Try re-installing the cygwin package from the local directory using
setup.exe, then exit setup.exe and run it again to re-install your
other packages.  Not using setup.exe makes it much harder for anyone
here to help and most of us won't try.

http://cygwin.com/bugs.html may help you track this down further.  The
output from cygcheck.exe may be particularly interesting.

  Do you have the path to your cygwin bin directory in your path? eg.
  c:\cygwin\bin? If not if you add that to your path environment variable this
  should go away.
 
 What path?  I'm running Windows 98.  There doesn't seem to be any path for
 me to set.  C:\autoexec.bat (where PATH was set in earlier versions of
 Windows) consists of one SET BLASTER=string command followed by
 gibberish.

Your c:\autoexec.bat may be corrupted.  I think Win98 and WinME still
use autoexec.bat for setting global environment variables.  It should
be a text file in any case.

Adding c:\cygwin\bin to your global %PATH% is useful for normal
operations, but it should not affect setup.exe or any postinstall
scripts.

 Should I be running SETUP.EXE via a Windows shortcut in order to set a PATH
 private to that DOS window?  If so, what settings are needed?

It shouldn't matter.  I have a copy of setup.exe in the base directory
of my local package archive cache tree (i.e., local directory) with a
shortcut pointing to it, but you should be able to run it from
anywhere by any means you like.

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Re: Installing the Win32:: modules for Cygwin Perl

2003-01-11 Thread Michael A Chase
On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 23:20:13 -0800 Rafael Kitover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a patch for libwin32-0.191 to build under Cygwin Perl, both 5.6
 and 5.8. This is based on the work of Clive Nicolson a while back.
  
 This will give you the core Win32 methods, as well libraries like
 Win32::APIFile, Win32::Sound, Win32::Clipboard etc.
  
 There is still quite a bit of work to be done to cleanly integrate these
 into Cygwin Perl so that no patching is necessary

Have you sent this patch to Gurusamy Sarathy [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
It would be nice to have as much as possible of it included in the
base package.  He made the first port of Perl to Cygwin, so he'd
probably be glad to fix any problems someone finds.

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Re: tar.bz2

2003-01-10 Thread Michael A Chase
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:49:16 -0500 David Robinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 DEEPA SIVASANKARANE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   could someone please tell me how to extract from a tar.bz2 
 format ?
 bzip2 --help
 tar --help
 info bzip2
 info tar

The problem with all those is that they bypass setup.exe which could
result in a corrupted installation and many more problems.

They would be appropriate if the original requester wasn't trying to
extract Cygwin packages.

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Re: What is the difference between Cygwin and GCC releases ?

2003-01-10 Thread Michael A Chase
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 16:01:32 - Aaron Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can someone give me a pointer on this, ie either explain or point me to the
 relavent documentation please.

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Re: Fwd: Cygwin

2003-01-09 Thread Michael A Chase
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:51:00 +0100 (MET) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Everytime I start cygwin.bat I get the following message:
 ---cut-
 
   9 [main] bash 400 init_cygheap::etc_changed: Can't open /etc for
 checking,
  Win32 error 1
 
 ls282km@HOST ~
 $
 ---cut-
 
 Why does it appear? Have I misconfig cygwin? Well, it's just installed
 in M:\pkg\cygwin.

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help you figure out the problem yourself or show you how to ask the
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Re: System() command

2003-01-07 Thread Michael A Chase
On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:55:09 +0200 Maor Avni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have this very simple C program:
 
 #include stdlib.h
 
 int main()
 {
   char a[] = echo echo testing 123;
   system(a);
   return 0;
 }
 
 I compile it with gcc and everything works fine, until I run it under
 Win2K's cmd.exe: the program just exits and does nothing.
 
 I have set up the PATH environment variable, and it still doesn't work.
 
 Any ideas?

No, since I have no idea what you setup PATH to.

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Re: Start up tcsh window?

2003-01-04 Thread Michael A Chase
On Sat, 4 Jan 2003 13:18:52 - John Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Edit your cygwin.bat file?
 
 @echo off
 
 C:
 chdir C:\cygwin\bin
 
 tcsh
 
 start tcsh for me.  Doesn't log me in, but... I don't
 use tcsh.

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
  Of Peter Davis
  Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2003 1:10 pm
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Start up tcsh window?
  
  
  Is there any way to start up a tcsh window without having to go
  through Bash?

I recommend leaving cygwin.bat alone and starting tcsh with another
batch file or directly from the Windows shortcut.  Adding the -l
option is probably a good idea.

You might also want to use rxvt, so look at how the bash startup
provided with that package works and adapt it to tcsh.

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Re: Command not found?

2002-12-26 Thread Michael A Chase
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:14:22 +0800 Adrian Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have just changed to Cygwin 1.3.17-1 from 1.3.2. I found that those
 simple commands such as mkdir,
 ls,...have been removed for this release and I get Command not found
 when running them. What
 happens? Is this a installation problems?

You aren't giving anyone here much to go on.  The instructions in bugs.html
will both help you isolate the problem yourself and report the problem in a
way that makes it possible for someone on the list to help you.

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Re: Fw: Cygwin Questions

2002-12-26 Thread Michael A Chase
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:42:05 +0800 Adrian Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I run the setup.exe again, I can see all packages have Keep value in
 the New column. That means
  I have installed everything. But anyway, I have tried to reinstall but
 no help.
 
  Windows version: Windows 2000 Professional (Traditional Chinese version)
 Mirror site: ftp.gnupilgrims.org
 
  I am suspecting it is due to the problems of the mirror sites. Does
 anybody know those simple
 commands (ls, mkdir, etc) belongs to which package?

Did you see either Chris or my messages?

If anything got installed, they should be there.  Please read and follow
the instructions in http://cygwin.com/bugs.html .

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Re: Fw: cygwin Questions

2002-12-26 Thread Michael A Chase
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 01:03:05 -0500 Christopher Faylor 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 01:58:58PM +0800, Adrian Chong wrote:
 But, I can't see the package fileutils in setup.exe.  Now I have to
 download from FTP manually.
 
 http://cygwin.com/bugs.html
 http://cygwin.com/bugs.html
 ...
 http://cygwin.com/bugs.html
 http://cygwin.com/bugs.html

I think you're being too subtle.
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Re: Bug somewhere between cygwin, gcc and cvs

2002-12-25 Thread Michael A Chase
On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 13:22:17 -0500 Arkadiy Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I downloaded latest stable CVS code (1.11.2) and compiled it under cygwin.
 cvs co, cvs login and cvs commit worked, but not cvs update.

Since you are trying to build a version of CVS in advance of the version
available on Cygwin mirrors, you may not get much help here.  I suggest you
download the source for the Cygwin CVS
(release/cvs/cvs-1.11.0-1-src.tar.gz) and see what is done in the
corresponding places there.  If that version has the same problems, I'm
sure the Cygwin maintainer would appreciate a patch.

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Re: Running cygwin built programs in Windows XP

2002-12-22 Thread Michael A Chase
On Sun, 22 Dec 2002 13:27:18 -0600 John Seeliger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Igor Pechtchanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, John Seeliger wrote:

 How do I run a program that I built with gcc under Cygwin in Windows? When
 I try to run them, it says it can't find cygwin1.dll.

 Make sure c:\cygwin\bin is in your PATH.  Another alternative is to use
 the mingw runtime by giving gcc the -mno-cygwin option, but be aware that
 there is less posix support there (IIRC).

 Thanks.  I gave the -mno-cygwin a try and it worked.  I added
 c:\cygwin\bin
 to my autoexec.bat.

As far as I know, autoexec.bat has no effect in WinXP.

 It still will not recognize it and programs developed in cygwin without
 the -mno-cygwin option and opened directly from windows give the error
 message about cygwin1.dll .  Where does it need to go?

You need to add it to PATH in 'My Computer' - ??? - Environment.
Look up Environment in WinXP's help.

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Re: Running cygwin built programs in Windows XP

2002-12-22 Thread Michael A Chase
On Sun, 22 Dec 2002 13:27:18 -0600 John Seeliger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, John Seeliger wrote:

 How do I run a program that I built with gcc under Cygwin in Windows? When
 I try to run them, it says it can't find cygwin1.dll.

 Make sure c:\cygwin\bin is in your PATH.  Another alternative is to use
 the mingw runtime by giving gcc the -mno-cygwin option, but be aware that
 there is less posix support there (IIRC).

 Thanks.  I gave the -mno-cygwin a try and it worked.  I added
 c:\cygwin\bin
 to my autoexec.bat.

Autoexec.bat is not read at startup in WinXP.

 It still will not recognize it and programs developed in cygwin without
 the -mno-cygwin option and opened directly from windows give the error
 message about cygwin1.dll .  Where does it need to go?

You need to add it to PATH in 'My Computer' - ??? - Environment.
Look up Environment in WinXP's help.

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Re: Perl package File::Spec confused under cygwin

2002-12-21 Thread Michael A Chase
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 17:36:58 -0800 linda w (cyg) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Note that Cygwin, like Unix, doesn't have a concept of 
 volume.  Everything except network paths (//host/dir) are 
 based on a single root directory. 
 ---
 But Unix does have a concept of a mount point (device) and
 path from the mount point.  Conceivably, one could view the 
 mount point itself as a local host name for the volume (local, remote or a
 device) with path being location on the mounted fs.

device != volume.  For the purposes of File::Spec, it would be better to
leave the directory structure as a single tree.

 It is arbitrary to choose to see the /fs as one giant undifferentiated
 tree.

But that is the convention used by Unix and hence Cygwin.  You can
distinguish which device a file or directory is in by using the first
element returned by stat(), but that doesn't affect the file spec.

 You can always call File::Spec::Win32 - splitpath() to get 
 that behavior.
 ---
 Well, for 'portability' one shouldn't call ::OS anything.
 The purpose of File::Spec was to provide a OS independent way to
 deconstruct/construct pathnames into their separate components.

Portability is a worthy goal, but sometimes you have to accomodate your
specific environment, that's why $^O is available.

 It does, but File::Spec::Cygwin is very close to File::Spec::Unix.
 ---
 Yeah...got that.  I guess most immediate fix would be to fix
 the Cygwin version to differentiate things... then if it was 
 important, one could split the path to mount:path for more useful, yet
 spec-compatible functionality.

If you submit a Perl bug report with a patch that does what you want and
explains why you want it, it is likely to get included in the next release
of Perl.  If you talk nice to Gerrit, you may even get it in the next build
of Cygwin Perl pending a change to the base source.  Borrowed code from
File/Spec/Win32.pm may provide a start.

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Re: Perl package File::Spec confused under cygwin

2002-12-20 Thread Michael A Chase
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 13:27:50 -0800 linda w (cyg) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 File::Spec is supposed to provide a OS independent way of parsing and
 creating pathnames.  For example, a 'splitpath' can product a volume
 $dir and $file.  

Note that Cygwin, like Unix, doesn't have a concept of volume.  Everything
except network paths (//host/dir) are based on a single root directory. 

 I'm not sure what constitutes a volume but I'd think C: D: would count
 as separate.

Mixed file specifications like c:/x/y/z are handled by many programs in the
Cygwin environment, but such paths are not really valid.  File::Spec::Win32
accepts '/' as well as '\' as a directory separator.

 Under cygwin, it only handles/parses unix pathnames but not native
 windows pathnames 'c:\windows\filename' will yield a vol='', dir='' and
 filename='d:\windows\filelname' -- not what one would expect.  Using
 forward slashes yields: vdf='', 'd:/windows/,'filename'.

That's exactly the situation.  File::Spec::Cygwin for Perl 5.8 only
overrides file_name_is_absolute() and canonpath(); other than that it's
pure File::Spec::Unix.  I'm sure the Perl Porters would be willing to
examine a patch to handle mixed specs.

 Further use to break down the directory path into components would
 yield D: as a first directory and 'windows' as a 2nd level dir. 
 Note that the forward slash has now disappeared indicating what I believe
 to be improper symantics as d:windows != D:\windows unless d:'s curdir
 is = to the root dir.

You can always call File::Spec::Win32 - splitpath() to get that behavior.

 Guess when the module detects the OS type, it needs to have a separate
 type for the cygwin environment.

It does, but File::Spec::Cygwin is very close to File::Spec::Unix.

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Re: Cygwin deinstall

2002-12-19 Thread Michael A Chase
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:27:41 +0100 a12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Following your suggestion I mail this entry to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are still not paying attention.  Your initial question was 'How do I
uninstall Cygwin?'.  The FAQ I pointed you to does answer that question.

If you bother to read the information in the URIs listed at the bottom of
every message in [EMAIL PROTECTED], you will see that vague complaints
about the FAQ being incomplete, which it was not in your case, don't
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Re: Setup not loggin?

2002-12-18 Thread Michael A Chase
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 03:15:12 +0100 Javier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've noticed that both setup log files (setup.log.full and setup.log) on
 the setup dir, are from Nov. 29th (and I've run setup and made changes
 several times since)
 
 Is ths a bug? A feature?

Yes.

During the first install, the Cygwin mount points didn't exist so the
logs are written where you found them.  Once the mount points exist,
the logs are written to /var/log/ for normal updates.

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Re: subsrcibe

2002-12-17 Thread Michael A Chase
On 17 Dec 2002 12:30:43 +0700 Nugroho Nursuwito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 subscribe
 

Posting this request, especially misspelled, does nothing except annoy the
list members.

Please read the entire page before you post again.

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Re: completion-ignore-case (was: /tmp)

2002-12-12 Thread Michael A Chase
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:07:37 -0800 Shankar Unni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Soren A wrote:
 
   [...] you can nenver tell another person what they should like in
  a shell. 
 
 Well (sorry for OT drift), the main thing was the case-insensitive 
 filename completion, which is invaluable on Windows. I need to look at 
 the tcsh source and see if it is implemented within an #ifdef WIN32 
 like block. It would be nice if the feature was automatically also 
 available in the cygwin build of tcsh ..

I use case insensitive completion all the time in Cygwin bash.
The following lines in ~/.inputrc control that feature for bash and may
affect other shells that use the same input library.

  # Ignore case while completing
  set completion-ignore-case on

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Re: completion-ignore-case (was: /tmp)

2002-12-12 Thread Michael A Chase
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:12:56 -0800 Shankar Unni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Michael A Chase wrote:
 
# Ignore case while completing
set completion-ignore-case on
 
 Hmm. Thanks!  Now that I RTFM more closely, I also see set 
 complete=enhance. Is there a difference? The latter seems to work as 
 I'd expect it to, so I'm now beginning my Big Move To Cygwin Tcsh :-/.

I looked in the fine manual for tcsh after I sent my email and found
the same thing.  I don't know if ~/.inputrc applies to tcsh at all.

If you find any other differences between Cygwin and Linux tcsh, they may
be of interest since the intention is to make things as much alike as
practical.

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Re: The system cannot find the path specified - from bash shell

2002-12-09 Thread Michael A Chase
On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 18:41:47 + Andrew Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've just installed cygwin, and it all installed fine.  I used the 
 recommended 'setup' installer, and installed it all to C:\cygwin\.  
 Whenever I run the bashshell, I get:
 
 The system cannot find the path specified.
 
 myusername@mycompname ~
 $ _
 
 What does this mean?  Please help me, I'm a cygwin newbie

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Re: Building /etc/passwd from setup.exe

2002-12-08 Thread Michael A Chase
On Sun, 8 Dec 2002 13:02:39 - John Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  It seems desirable to
  - have local users and groups always appear in /etc/passwd and /etc/group
 
 Why?  I never log on locally when running on a network domain...

Don't a lot of the system files belong to the local account used for
installation?  SYSTEM is also a local user though that is a special case.
I don't have a domain account right now so I can't check to see if '-d'
includes the special local users/groups.

 I think the -c is not a bad idea.  I'll go with the majority
 about the domain stuff, but I think it should be there.  Question:
 have you a known situation where $USERDOMAIN != hostname and
 you weren't logged into a domain?

For several years, I used my laptop both at work and at home.  When not
at work, I logged in using cached user information.

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Re: Building /etc/passwd from setup.exe

2002-12-08 Thread Michael A Chase
On Sun, 8 Dec 2002 17:16:55 - John Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  From: John Morrison
   From: Michael A Chase
   Don't a lot of the system files belong to the local account used for
   installation?  SYSTEM is also a local user though that is a special case.
 
 $ mkpasswd.exe -d
 SYSTEM:*:18:544:,S-1-5-18::
 Administrators:*:544:544:,S-1-5-32-544::
 mkpasswd: [2453] Could not find domain controller for this domain.
 
 $ mkpasswd.exe -l
 SYSTEM:*:18:544:,S-1-5-18::
 Administrators:*:544:544:,S-1-5-32-544::
  (other local users)
 
 so it looks like SYSTEM and Administrators are always output

Which means you'll get two copies of some lines if you run mkpasswd and
mkgroup with -d and then with -l.  Possibly an option to not write SYSTEM
and similar lines could be added at the same time -c is added.  Or perhaps
-c could combine the -l and -d outputs.

 $ mkgroup.exe -d
 SYSTEM:S-1-5-18:18:
 Cannot get PDC, code = 2453
 
 $ mkgroup -l
 SYSTEM:S-1-5-18:18:
  (other local groups)
 
 and the SYSTEM group so that shouldn't be a problem.

How forgiving is Cygwin of duplicate lines in /etc/passwd and /etc/group? 
If it isn't very forgiving, maybe 'sort -u' could be used to remove
duplicate lines.

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Re: GCC compiler cannot create executables.

2002-12-06 Thread Michael A Chase
On Fri, 6 Dec 2002 16:08:07 +0200 Ryan Budge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ive attached a screen cap of the window.  Sorry... I don't have script
 like I do in BSD to give the output in text.  Or am I being silly...

The latter.  You can cut and paste text from a console window in by
pressing Alt-Space and following the 'Edit' menu item.  If you have enabled
fast cut-and-paste in the window/shortcut properties all you need to do is
highlight the text with your mouse and press enter to copy the text to the
clipboard.

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Re: GCC compiler cannot create executables.

2002-12-06 Thread Michael A Chase
On Fri, 6 Dec 2002 12:05:24 -0500 (EST) Igor Pechtchanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 FWIW, there's also apparently a cygwin port of 'script':
 http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-09/msg01371.html

It's also easy to redirect STDOUT and STDERR to a file.  I found myself
doing it often enough that I wrote a script to do it for me.  It needs a
log/ directory in the current directory or one of its parents.


#!/bin/bash
# Find nearest log directory and tee log command output to a file there
# set -xv

log=
usage() {
   if [ 1 -le $# ]; then $rc=$1; shift; else rc=0; fi
   basename=$(basename $0)
   msg=\
Send stdout and stderr to a log file
   If no log file is specified, search for the nearest log/ directory in ./,
   ../, ../../ until / is reached and generate a file name based on the command
   name and the current date and time.
syntax: $basename [opt] cmd [arg]...
Opt:
   -l log = Log file ($log)
Arg:
   cmd = Command to execute
   arg = Options and arguments to cmd

   while [ 1 -le $# ]; do
  if [ 0 = $rc ]; then echo $1; else echo $1 2; fi
  shift
   done
   if [ 0 = $rc ]; then echo $msg; else echo $msg 2; fi
   exit $rc
}

while getopts ':hl:' OPT
do
   case $OPT in
  l) log=$OPTARG ;;
  h) usage 0 ;;
  *) usage 1 Invalid Option: -$OPTARG  ;;
   esac
done
if [ 1 -lt $OPTIND ]; then shift $(expr $OPTIND - 1); fi

# Make sure there is a command name
if [ 1 -gt $# ]; then
   echo No command name
   exit 1
fi
cmd=$(basename $1)

# Find log directory and build log file name
if [ -z $log ]; then
   logbase=$PWD
   while :; do
  if [ / = $logbase ]; then
 echo Log directory not found under $PWD
 exit 1
  fi
  if [ -d $logbase/log -a -w $logbase/log ]; then break; fi
  logbase=`dirname $logbase`
   done
   dt=$(date +%y%m%d_%H%M)
   log=$logbase/log/$cmd-$dt.log
fi
echo Log file: $log
touch $log
echo Dir: '$PWD'$log
echo Command: $@  $log

$@ 21 | tee -a $log
echo Log file: $log



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Re: Can't run Macro Express from within Cygwin bash shell

2002-12-04 Thread Michael A Chase
On Wed, 04 Dec 2002 18:12:20 -0800 Jack Twilley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is probably a general question and not application-specific.
 
 I can run the application from a cmd window in Win2kAS with a command
 line like this:
 
 c:\progra~1\macroe~1\meproc.exe /Fj:\diesel\scripts\PerfmonMacros.mex
 /APerfMonInit
 
 I've tried running the same command line with lots of escaping from a
 Cygwin bash shell, both remotely and locally.  It doesn't work.  I've
 tried mixtures of /cygdrive/c and c:\\ and I can see the files in the
 remote directory from the bash shells just fine.  What am I doing
 wrong?

If it's a MSDOS/Windows executable, it won't know anything about Cygwin
paths.  Getting backslashes (\) right can be rather tricky in a shell
environment, so what I'd suggest is something like this:

 # A DOS program won't understand Cygwin file specifications
 mex=$(cygpath -w -a /cygdrive/j/diesel/scripts/PerfmonMacros.mex)

 # Use a Cygwin path for the shell to find the program
 /cygdrive/c/Program Files/MacroExe/meproc /F$mex /APerfMonInit

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Re: Can't run Macro Express from within Cygwin bash shell

2002-12-04 Thread Michael A Chase
On Wed, 04 Dec 2002 19:09:25 -0800 Jack Twilley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Michael == Michael A Chase Michael writes:
 
 [...]
 
 Michael If it's a MSDOS/Windows executable, it won't know anything
 Michael about Cygwin paths.  Getting backslashes (\) right can be
 Michael rather tricky in a shell environment, so what I'd suggest is
 Michael something like this:
 
 Michael  # A DOS program won't understand Cygwin file specifications
 Michael mex=$(cygpath -w -a
 Michael /cygdrive/j/diesel/scripts/PerfmonMacros.mex)
 
 Michael  # Use a Cygwin path for the shell to find the program
 Michael /cygdrive/c/Program Files/MacroExe/meproc /F$mex
 Michael /APerfMonInit
 
 Your solution works with a local bash shell but not a remote one.  Any
 idea why?  While logged in remotely, I can ls both the binary and the
 macro file, so it's not a permissions thing, or I don't think it is
 anyway. 

What part is failing?
Is cygpath.exe running at all?
Is cygpath.exe converting the PerfmonMacros.mex path correctly?
Is meproc.exe running at all?
What happens if you try to run meproc.exe with other arguments?
...

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Re: Can't run Macro Express from within Cygwin bash shell

2002-12-04 Thread Michael A Chase
On Wed, 04 Dec 2002 23:36:57 -0500 Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 At 10:46 PM 12/4/2002, Jack Twilley wrote:
   Michael == Michael A Chase Michael writes:
 
 Jack Your solution works with a local bash shell but not a remote
 Jack one.  Any idea why?  While logged in remotely, I can ls both the
 Jack binary and the macro file, so it's not a permissions thing, or I
 Jack don't think it is anyway.
 
 Michael What part is failing?  Is cygpath.exe running at all?  Is
 Michael cygpath.exe converting the PerfmonMacros.mex path correctly?
 Michael Is meproc.exe running at all?  What happens if you try to run
 Michael meproc.exe with other arguments?  ...
 
 I'm sorry for the completely lame response of mine.  I'll be more
 specific.  The cygpath.exe program works the same for both local and
 remote shells.  It gives the same response each time.  Since the
 meproc.exe program runs properly on the local shell, I have to assume
 that the cygpath.exe program is converting the path correctly.  I'm
 not exactly sure how to tell if the meproc.exe program is running at
 all.  There is a delay, and then I get another prompt.  Running
 the meproc.exe program with other arguments gives me the same results.
 
 When I run the meproc.exe program without arguments with truss, it
 returns errno 53.  I don't know what Cygwin uses errno 53 for, but
 FreeBSD uses it for ECONNABORT, which doesn't make much sense.
 
 
 These are Cygwin error messages.  They're from Windows.  Remember, Cygwin
s/are/are not/
 is a layer over the Windows API.  So...
 
 $ net helpmsg 53
 The network path was not found.

Try copying PerfmonMacros.mex to a directory that is physically on the same
machine as Cygwin and meproc.exe.  Drive J: is usually a network drive.
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Re: How to make setup.exe download everything?

2002-12-02 Thread Michael A Chase
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:02:03 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If what you mean is to download *all* of the cygwin release you can do that
 using the cygwin installer (http://cygwin.com/setup.exe) option `Download
 From Internet' and set your download directory to wherever on the windows
 filesystem you want to store the downloaded release. Just click through the
 skip's in the package selector on all of the packages.
 
 If your doing this to put on data medium, e.g. CD-ROM's, the directory
 structure setup.exe creates (url encoded mirror urls) aren't compatible
 with JOILET standard. Im my situation dealing with standalone machines I
 just archive the directory containing the release and burn it to a cdr.

I'd suggest creating a directory to hold release/, setup.exe, and
setup.ini.  Sometimes setup.exe doesn't react well to looking in x:\
directly.  It is also useful to have setup.exe and setup.ini in your base
directory.

 Original Message:
 -
 From: Francis Litterio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 14:08:21 -0500
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: How to make setup.exe download everything?
 
 
 I recently tried to use setup.exe to download everything from the latest
 Cygwin release, but setup.exe only lets me download packages that are
 not already installed.
 
 I need to download everything so I can instal Cygwin on a non-networked
 machine, can anyone tell me how to use setup.exe to download packages
 that I already have installed?

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Re: unsubscribing

2002-11-27 Thread Michael A Chase
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 22:45:05 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 The requested URL /ml/#unsubscribe-simple was not found on this server.
 
 with a change in my URL window to
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 What next?

Try it again.  There may have been a temporary glitch.  I just cut and
pasted the exact text of the first URL above from your message into my
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Try clearing your browser's cache if it still doesn't work for you.

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Re: ls --color on windows 2000

2002-11-07 Thread Michael A Chase
On Thu, 07 Nov 2002 11:45:04 -0300 Nelson Teixeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there any means of making ls --color work on windows 2k ? As far as I 
 know ME+ OSs from MS removed ANSI color support. How can I overcome this? 
 is there any replacement for cmd.exe or ansi.sys that I can use on windows 
 2k to make this work ?

What happens when you try it?  I've used it under WinXP in a normal console
window and the colors appeared as expected.  I don't use rxvt, but that is
another possibility.

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Re: ls --color on windows 2000

2002-11-07 Thread Michael A Chase
On Thu, 07 Nov 2002 11:45:04 -0300 Nelson Teixeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there any means of making ls --color work on windows 2k ? As far as I 
 know ME+ OSs from MS removed ANSI color support. How can I overcome this? 
 is there any replacement for cmd.exe or ansi.sys that I can use on windows 
 2k to make this work ?

Anyone trying to help you will need some details.  Please read
http://cygwin.com/bugs.html for some guidelines.  Note that cygcheck output
should be sent as an attachment to minimize false hits on archive searches.

What happens when you try it?

I've used it under WinXP in a normal console window and the colors appeared
as expected.  I don't use rxvt, but that is another possibility.

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Re: ls --color on windows 2000

2002-11-07 Thread Michael A Chase
On Thu, 07 Nov 2002 12:23:14 -0300 Nelson Teixeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 First Michael, thnx for your (quick) answer! :)
 
 Well in my case (win2k pro) the ansi escape sequences are shown as 
 is i.e.
 
 ?[01;34mMy Games?[0m?[01;34mresin-2.1.2?[0m
 ?[01;34mMy Music?[0m   
 ?[01;32mshutdown-tomcat-apache.bat?[0m
 ?[0mN2PActiveX.log?[0m  ?[01;32mstartapache.bat?[0m
 ?[0mN2pInst.log?[0m ?[01;32mstarttomcat.bat?[0m
 
Besides, as u gave me the first positive answer since I began to search, 
 and I now I know it is possible, I will recheck my instalation and do some 
 more tests. I have extensively search FAQs, docs and google and found 
 nothing about it.
If I am unsucessful I´ll write again.

Not to me.  The mail list exists for a reason, please use it.

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Re: Perl 5.6.1: Problem with CRLF/LF conversions

2002-11-06 Thread Michael A Chase
On Wed, 06 Nov 2002 12:52:51 +0100 Sven Köhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 warum verweißt du ihn auf perl5.8?
 ist es nicht wünschenswert, daß perl dateien im text-mode öffnet?
 bzw. sie nur genau dann als binär behandelt, wenn man binmode() aufruft?

Bable Fish translation (not many of us understand German):
   why do you know it on perl5.8? isn't it desirable that Perl opens
   files in the text mode? and/or it only exactly as binary treats
   if one calls binmode()? 

Gerrit asked you to try 5.8.0 because if there is a problem in the
distributed Perl, he is unlikely to go back and fix the older version.

Perl normally handles files in text mode unless binmode() is called for a
handle, but what text mode means is dependent on the mount point used (man
mount) and whether the input or output is through a pipe or other
redirection.

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Re: seek help for libungif

2002-11-06 Thread Michael A Chase
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:17:54 +0800 »ÆËÉ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello. Thank you for reading my letter. I'm a graduate student in the
 Institute of High Energy Physics of Chinese Academy of Sciences. I want
 to use libungif. But I can't gunzip it after I download it from the
 website http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/libs/graphics , and I can't
 find anything on the site
 ftp://prtr-13.ucsc.edu/pub/libungif. Why? Can you tell me where I can
 download it rightly? Or can you attach it for me? Thank you again.

info tar
info gzip

or

man tar
man gzip

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Re: gcc (as.exe) install error

2002-11-06 Thread Michael A Chase
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:14:25 -0600 Danny Sauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I recently installed cygwin 1.3.14-1 (according to cygcheck).  gcc is
 unable to compile c source code (gcc claims to be version 3.2).
 
 Example code from test.c:
 
 ---
 #include stdio.h
 int main(){
 printf(hello\n);
 }
 ---
 
 Not complicated code by any stretch of the imagination.  It compiles fine
 with gcc on the linux box next door, not suprisingly.
 
 I've tried doing a complete install of the entire cygwin env., and
 uninstalling followed by reinstalling the development group (and the
 binutils package individually).  I still get this error when I try to
 compile:
 
 ---
 $ gcc -o test.exe test.c
 gcc: installation problem, cannot exec
 '/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.2/../../../../i686-pc-cygwin/bin/as.ex
 e': Invalid argument
 ---
 
 If I copy and paste the path to as.exe, it runs just fine.  The file
 exists.  I've tried it without the -o test.exe part - same result.  I
 tried moving the file from a network mounted drive to a local path - same
 result.  My searches turned up nothing, but then, I may have been looking
 in the wrong place.  If someone could either point me to that place or
 just solve the problem, I'd be somewhat appreciative. :)

man test

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Re: gcc (as.exe) install error

2002-11-06 Thread Michael A Chase
On Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:11:49 -0800 Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How is the (merely) potential conflict between the output of Danny's 
 compilation (test.exe) going to lead gcc to produce an Invalid 
 argument error? Especially when the assembler runs (or would run) before 
 test.exe gets written? Also note that test is a shell built-in both in 
 BASH and Ash.

True.  I focused on the wrong phrases in the problem description.

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Ask again please

2002-10-14 Thread Michael A Chase

On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 04:56:24 -0700 (PDT) mehernosh mohta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wanted to setup an intranet mail on my windows
 network. So I tried to install cyrus imap of version
 2.1.6. But while compiling i used to get the following
 problems.
 
 So please try to help me out. Or else give me any
 other solution

Whereever you got the original email address is desperately out of date. 
The plug was finally pulled on the cygnus.com domain a couple weeks ago.

If you really want help, read the URI in my signature and resend your
request.  Just forwarding the original bounced message with parts chopped
off and a meaningless subject line doesn't help you a bit.

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Re: Viruses being transported with Cygwin messages

2002-10-13 Thread Michael A Chase

On 14 Oct 2002 06:36:02 +1000 Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 2002-10-14 at 05:04, Gregg C Levine wrote:

  Folks, don't roar at me, but I am seeing a number of messages arrive here,
  infected. One came with a message via Robert Collins, twice, 

 Can you point me at the message with the virus? And the virus? I email
 from UNIX, so am *very* surprised at this.

Like spam, most common email viruses forge the 'from' address.  I am seeing
a few of these too, but, as Chris said, they aren't coming through the
Cygwin server.

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Re: cygwin 1.3.12 build question

2002-10-01 Thread Michael A Chase

On Tue, 01 Oct 2002 12:21:45 -0700 Doru Carastan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone know what versions for w32api and mingw packages were used 
 in the 1.3.12 release?

The full, current source can be viewed on line at
http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/?cvsroot=src .

I think the w32api version is in src/winsup/win32api/include/win32api.h and
the mingw version is in src/winsup/mingw/include/_mingw.h .

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Re: wordexp function

2002-09-30 Thread Michael A Chase

On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 18:12:06 +0200 Franck Leray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is the unix wordexp function included in a cygwin package ?

Visit http://cygwin.com and follow the Setup Package Search link.

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Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)

2002-09-30 Thread Michael A Chase

On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Eduardo Chappa [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 For these reasons, I completely support the idea of creating an
 independent newsgroup.

So file the proposal.

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Re: ncftp's lls requiring /bin/more

2002-09-29 Thread Michael A Chase

On Sun, 29 Sep 2002 11:29:01 +0800 Greg Matheson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Another ncftp peculiarity is lls, which won't work because it
 requires /usr/bin/more.
 
 The manual says you can set the environmental variable, $PAGER,
 but that didn't work for me.
 
 I forced lls to work by linking /bin/less to /bin/more.

Perhaps the pager variable in ncftp is overriding $PAGER and it is set to
'/bin/more' in your system.  Use the ncftp 'set' command to change it:

   set pager less

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Re: sysvinit for cygwin?

2002-09-28 Thread Michael A Chase

On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 01:01:53 -0300 Ariel Manzur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 18:32 27/09/2002 -0700, you wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:44:51 -0300 Ariel Manzur
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 is there a 'sysvinit' package for cygwin? I'm only interested in being able
 to switch consoles using alt-f1 to 6, I understand the program 'init' is
 the one that manages that. Is there at least a 'clon' of that for cygwin?

There isn't, but there wouldn't be much point.  Cygwin console windows are
Windows windows (usually either cmd.exe or rxvt.exe) so you can switch
between them using Alt-TAB.
 
 But there is :) I use cygwin in 'terminal mode', and sometimes my video 
 driver crashes windows when I switch between console mode and the desktop 
 too often. Also, I'd like to be able to have more than one shell without 
 having to use the 'start' menu on windows to launch a different window (and 
 I couldn't get 'screen' to work properly either :(

When you say 'terminal mode' do you mean you log in through telnet, open a
console window using the provided Cygwin icon, open a rxvt window or, open
an X window?  If it is the last, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the wrong list, use
[EMAIL PROTECTED] instead.  For the others, I use a normal console
window and switch between it and windows applications continually
throughout the day with no problems; you may have a configuration problem
in Windows, but someone else on the list is likely to be able to help more
after you give more details.

 So, would it be possible to port the existing one, or should I just write 
 my own terminal swintching thing?

If you want it to happen, you will have to do it yourself or convince
someone on [EMAIL PROTECTED] that it is worth doing.  I have neither the
skills nor the interest.

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Re: cvs executes illegal instructions

2002-09-27 Thread Michael A Chase
: cygwin-1-3-12-1
 Shared id: cygwin1S3
 
41k 2002/05/14 C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\cygPropList-0.dll
   446k 2001/02/08 C:\PalmDev\pilrc-2.8\cygwin1.dll
 Cygwin DLL version info:
 DLL version: 2.0.1
 DLL epoch: 19
 DLL bad signal mask: 19005
 API major: 0
 API minor: 3
 Shared data: 1
 DLL identifier: cygwin
 Mount registry: 1
 Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions
 Cygwin registry name: CYGWIN.DLL setup
 Program options name: Program Options
 Cygwin mount registry name: b15.0
 Build date: Thu Dec 3 20:39:18 PST 1998
 CVS taggnu-win32-b20-branch: 
 Shared id: cygwinS1

 Michael A Chase wrote:
 
 On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 15:10:44 -0700 Steve Kelem [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
   
 
 I'm running cvs 1.11 on Windows 2000, and the latest cygwin inside
 tcsh 
 6.11.00.
 If I run cvs commit from tcsh, it runs a bit, and then brings up a
 popup:
 
 16 bit MS-DOS Subsystem
 The NTVDM CPU has encountered an illegal instruction.
 CS:00cf IP:0514 OP:ff ff 00 00 98 Choose 'Close' to terminate the 
 application.
 
 If I click on Ignore, I get two more popups (clicking on Ignore
 each 
 time),
 then I get the message:
 Log message unchanged or not specified
 a)bort, c)ontinue, e)dit, !)reuse this message unchanged for remaining
 dirs
 Action: (continue)
 
 So, cvs appears not to like not having a message specified (-m
 flag), 
 but it's a rather rude way of telling me.
 
 
 
 I wouldn't expect any Cygwin programs to invoke the 16 bit MS-DOS
 Subsystem.  Please run cygcheck -s at the same command prompt as you
 are
 running cvs from.  If none of that rings a bell for you, post it to the
 list and maybe someone (probably not me) can spot your problem.  The
 output
 from which -a cvs might also be interesting.
 
   
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: Cygwin: name of an lwp-request script (HEAD) clashes with /bin/head

2002-09-27 Thread Michael A Chase

On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:31:41 -0400 (EDT) Igor Pechtchanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When installing LWP through CPAN, the installation creates the GET, HEAD
 and POST scripts in /usr/bin.  On Cygwin, the name HEAD clashes with an
 existing program, /bin/head.exe (Cygwin assumes a .exe extension if it
 cannot find a program, so /bin/head normally invokes /bin/head.exe).
 Windows mostly disallows files with the same name in different cases,
 unlike Unix, which has no trouble distinguishing between HEAD and head.
 So, to accommodate the users of Cygwin and others using case-insensitive
 filesystems, can the scripts GET, HEAD, and POST be renamed to GET.pl,
 HEAD.pl, and POST.pl?  Would this break a lot of existing functionality?
 Thank you.
 Igor Pechtchanski
 P.S. I've cc'd the cygwin mailing list, as this is relevant to Cygwin.

Lwp-request strips both directory name and extension before it uses
$progname to determine $method, so adding an extension to the alias names
shouldn't bother lwp-request.

Part of the problem is that some installers have reported not seeing the
request whether to install the aliases or not if they are installing via
the CPAN shell.

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Re: sysvinit for cygwin?

2002-09-27 Thread Michael A Chase

On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:44:51 -0300 Ariel Manzur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 is there a 'sysvinit' package for cygwin? I'm only interested in being able 
 to switch consoles using alt-f1 to 6, I understand the program 'init' is 
 the one that manages that. Is there at least a 'clon' of that for cygwin?

There isn't, but there wouldn't be much point.  Cygwin console windows are
Windows windows (usually either cmd.exe or rxvt.exe) so you can switch
between them using Alt-TAB.

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Re: Is there a command for creating shortcuts on the desktop?

2002-09-25 Thread Michael A Chase

On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:41:14 +1000 (EST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been doing things like creating template files, finding where
 Cygwin is installed via Cygpath, and modifying the template with sed
 and copying it to the appropriate user desktop directory.
 
 I don't suppose there's an existing command for doing this?

man mkshortcut

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Re: expat installation problem

2002-09-22 Thread Michael A Chase

On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 11:49:57 +0200 Andreas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I encountered problems concerning the installation of expat (1.95.4-1).
 After
 $ tar xjvf expat-1.95.4-1-src.tar.bz2
cd expat-1.95.4 # ?
 $ ./expat-1.95.4-1.sh all
 
 the script breaks with:
 ...
 + reconf-cygwin.sh
 reconf-cygwin.sh: not found
 + STATUS=127
 + exit 127
 
 But reconf-cygwin.sh is in the expat-1.95.4/ dir.
 Is there a way to complete the installation of the package properly?

Check the permissions on reconf-cygwin.sh.
Change reconf-cygwin.sh to ./reconf-cygwin.sh or add . to $PATH.

Why didn't you use setup.exe to install the source files?
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Re: gcc doesn't work but seemed to install fine...

2002-09-22 Thread Michael A Chase

On 22 Sep 2002 20:53:57 -0600 Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just used the cygwin setup program to install gcc on my d: drive on
 my windows 2000 professional pc.
 
 The install seemed to go fine. From the command line I can get the
 version of gcc:
 
 bash.exe-2.02$ gcc -v
 Using builtin specs.
 gcc version egcs-2.91.57 19980901 (egcs-1.1 release)

egcs != Cygwin.  Check $PATH.

 But when I try to compile something I get an error:
 bash.exe-2.02$ gcc socks.c
 cpp: unrecognized option `-remap'
 
 And then an error box pops up that says:
 The procedure entry point_ctype_ could not be located in the dynamic
 link libary cygwin1.dll.
 
 What's up here? Have I been a bad little programmer?

You seem to have a very old installation.  The current Cygwin Bash is 2.05
and the Cygwin GCC 2 has been 2.95.2 or .3 for ages.  Even the Mingw GCC
has been at 2.95.2 since 1999.

Your first step should be to visit http://cygwin.com/ and install
a recent version of Cygwin, including GCC.
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Re: df --local

2002-09-21 Thread Michael A Chase

On Sat, 21 Sep 2002 12:46:13 -0400 (EDT) Igor Pechtchanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 21 Sep 2002, egor duda wrote:
 
  Friday, 20 September, 2002 Rob Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  RB OK, that will *mostly* work except for the cdrom drive issue.
 
  The proper way is to convert path to win32 form and then use
  GetDriveType() and GetVolumeInformation() APIs.
 
 This is related to the question I asked on the cygwin-developers list (
 http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-developers/2002-09/msg00078.html ).  Maybe
 people can discuss it here...
 
 Basically, Cygwin's getmntent() returns either user or system as the
 fstype, whereas on other systems (Linux, etc) the fstype is the type of
 the filesystem (cdrom, nfs, local, etc).  I was proposing a change to make
 the user/system distinction part of mnt_opts, and set the type field to
 whatever's returned by GetVolumeInformation().  This method is called in
 path.cc anyway, to distinguish Samba filesystems...

It sounds like a good idea to me.  I found the current values being used in
a few places.

newlib/libc/sys/linux/fstab.c
   Just passing the value through.

newlib/libc/sys/linux/mntent_r.c
   Extracting the value from a string.
   I'm not sure where the string is created, possibly path.cc.

winsup/cygwin/path.cc
   Converts bits in flags to string (user or system).

winsup/utils/cygcheck.cc
   Prints whatever it finds in mnt-mnt_type.

winsup/utils/mount.cc
   Uses current values of mnt_type several places.

winsup/utils/path.cc
   Converts m-issys to string (user or system).

winsup/utils/umount.cc
   Tests p-mnt_type for current values.

It looks like the main confusion would come from people parsing the output
from cygcheck or mount and expecting the current values of user or
system.

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Re: Bash local builtin and redirection problems

2002-09-21 Thread Michael A Chase

On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 11:00:14 +1000 Ray Pimm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have successfully installed Cygwin on Windows 2000 SP3. However, when I 
 attempt to run a bash shell script that works fine under Linux, two 
 problems occur.
 
 1. The bash local builtin does not seem to work. Error message is local: 
 not found.
 
 2. Both shorthand formats file and file for redirecting standard 
 output and standard error do not work. However, the longhand equivalent 
 file 21 does work.
 
 Strangely, both of the above features work from the bash command line (but 
 not from a shell script).
 
 Cygwin version is 1.3.12-4.
 
 Bash version is 2.05b-5. An earlier version 2.05a-3 also fails.

What is in your script's #! line?  /bin/bash != /bin/sh, sh is actually
ash, not bash.

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Re: gcc specs file format

2002-09-21 Thread Michael A Chase

On Sat, 21 Sep 2002 19:42:26 -0700 Paul D. DeRocco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry, but I don't see it. I grepped all the gcc.info* files (indeed, all
 the *.info* files) for specs, and read the matches in my editor. I found a
 bunch of mentions of the specs file, but no explanation of it.

  From: Christopher Faylor
 
  On Sat, Sep 21, 2002 at 10:51:40AM -0700, Paul D. DeRocco wrote:
  The GNUPro Compiler Tools document mentions this file, and the
  gcc -dumpspecs option shows me what's in it. But where is its format
  documented? It's quite incomprehensible on its own.
 
  In the gcc info file: info gcc .

I found a pretty detailed explanation inside 'info gcc' by typing 
'g Spec Files'.  There's a link to it as part of the description of 
-dumpspecs.  I have gcc 3.2 installed, but the text looks like it's been
around since at least 2.9.5.

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Re: I can't run my make-file

2002-09-19 Thread Michael A Chase

On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:44:57 + melba selco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When i write
 make filename

Arguments to 'make' are targets, not files.  Run `make --help` for a short
help, `info make` for the full details.

 there is an error...
 
 make: cc: Command not found
 make: *** [universe] Error 127
 
 What can i do to avoid this error?

Install cc?  Use a makefile that uses gcc or g++?

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Re: Open bash at the current explorer directory?

2002-09-19 Thread Michael A Chase

On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 13:01:33 -0400 (EDT) Igor Pechtchanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It should be /etc/profile (note the absense of .) and ~/.bash_profile.
 I think ~/.profile is used by ksh...

For login shells, bash will fall back to ~/.profile if ~/.bash_profile and
~/.bash_login aren't present; they shouldn't have to be specifically
mentioned.

I gleaned what I think are the best command lines from the extensive
discussion on this list about 6 months ago.  I have posted the .reg file I
use to install them at http://home.ix.netcom.com/~mchase/zip/ .  They
execute ~/.bashrc twice, but /etc/profile and ~/.bash_profile only once. 
No modification is required to any profile or rc script.

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Re: Why rxvt?

2002-09-19 Thread Michael A Chase

On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 17:17:45 -0700 Paul D. DeRocco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can anyone tell me what advantages this might have for running bash,
 compared to the usual Windows command line window? I noticed in the readme
 that rxvt can leave child processes running if you close the window, which
 is scary since that's how I habitually terminate a command line session.

Don't do that.  It's best to shut down any program as gracefully as it can.
For command line windows, that is by using the appropriate exit command.

Rxvt you gives better control over the window, especially in Win9x,
keyboard, cut-and-paste, scrollbars, resizing, fonts, and colors in
particular.

In WinNT and it's descendents, I've been perfectly happy using the console
window though in WinXP I've found it useful to call bash.exe directly
rather than via cygwin.bat to avoid having cmd.exe respond on exit to any
Ctrl-C's I've pressed during the session.

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Re: cvs executes illegal instructions

2002-09-18 Thread Michael A Chase

On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 15:10:44 -0700 Steve Kelem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm running cvs 1.11 on Windows 2000, and the latest cygwin inside tcsh 
 6.11.00.
 If I run cvs commit from tcsh, it runs a bit, and then brings up a
 popup:
 
 16 bit MS-DOS Subsystem
 The NTVDM CPU has encountered an illegal instruction.
 CS:00cf IP:0514 OP:ff ff 00 00 98 Choose 'Close' to terminate the 
 application.
 
 If I click on Ignore, I get two more popups (clicking on Ignore each 
 time),
 then I get the message:
 Log message unchanged or not specified
 a)bort, c)ontinue, e)dit, !)reuse this message unchanged for remaining
 dirs
 Action: (continue)
 
 So, cvs appears not to like not having a message specified (-m flag), 
 but it's a rather rude way of telling me.

I wouldn't expect any Cygwin programs to invoke the 16 bit MS-DOS
Subsystem.  Please run cygcheck -s at the same command prompt as you are
running cvs from.  If none of that rings a bell for you, post it to the
list and maybe someone (probably not me) can spot your problem.  The output
from which -a cvs might also be interesting.

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Re: cvs executes illegal instructions

2002-09-18 Thread Michael A Chase

On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 15:10:44 -0700 Steve Kelem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 I'm running cvs 1.11 on Windows 2000, and the latest cygwin inside tcsh 
 6.11.00.
 If I run cvs commit from tcsh, it runs a bit, and then brings up a
 popup:

Darn.  I forgot to also ask for the _exact_ command line you are using and
the contents of .cvsrc.

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Re: setup.exe crashing Windows 2000

2002-09-01 Thread Michael A Chase

On Sun, 01 Sep 2002 16:54:26 -0700 Ian Burrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is new behaviour; I run setup lots of times on this machine with
 no problems.  There are two things that have changed recently: updated
 to Windows 2000 SP3, and installed a Linksys phoneline network card.
 I am pretty sure I had the same version of setup.exe (2.249.2.5) and
 cygwin1.dll (1.3.12-2) for successful updates before making those
 changes.

You can find the setup version in /var/log/setup.log.  The first line for
each session includes the version number.

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Re: Bugs for setup-200206 left?

2002-06-11 Thread Michael A Chase

On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:45:10 +1000 Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 AFAIK the only bug to squash is the 'download incomplete' - which I
 *still* cannot reproduce.
 
 I'd like to call for move 2.249.2.2 into release now, given that it's no
 less reliable than the current release which also has the download
 incomplete bug.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 Chris, it's your call. I think 2.249.2.2 is ready now...

Since the most recent dialog for most setup.exe problems has been help,
use snapshot, thanks it works now, it'd at least be an improvment over
the current situation.
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2002-05-23 Thread Michael A Chase

On Thu, 23 May 2002 12:55:20 +0530 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 some body plz tell me how to unsubscribe from the list
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I doubt this will do much good since you didn't read the responses to the
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Re: bogus PATH transformations in bash 2.05a.0(3)-release w/cygwin 1.3.10

2002-05-22 Thread Michael A Chase

On Wed, 22 May 2002 09:27:06 -0700 Kevin Layer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Your /usr/bin and /usr/lib mounts are incorrect.  There were some problems
  with that with some versions of setup.exe, but I think that has been fixed
  now.  
 
 I had the latest version of setup.exe (as of yesterday).  I decided to
 remove cygwin, even cleaning out `cygwin' references in the registry
 and reinstall from scratch.
 
 I also removed the c:\cygwin\usr\bin element from my path, since it is
 apparently obsolete now.
 
 After reinstalling the problem is no longer there.

Just to make sure I understand.  After doing a complete reinstall with the
latest setup.exe, the mounts are now correct?  Please confirm that with
'cygcheck  -s' so I can put this to bed in my mind at least.
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Re: bogus PATH transformations in bash 2.05a.0(3)-release w/cygwin 1.3.10

2002-05-21 Thread Michael A Chase

On Tue, 21 May 2002 17:29:42 -0700 Kevin Layer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

D:\bugPATH C:\Cygwin\bin;c:\cygwin\usr\bin;C:\Cygwin\usr\local\bin
 
D:\bugsh -i
$ make
echo /bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin
/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin
/c/winnt/system32/cmd
Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
(C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.
 
D:\bugpath
PATH=c:\cygwin\bin;c:\cygwin\\bin;c:\cygwin\usr\local\bin
 ===^^
D:\bug
 
 That path should be c:\cygwin\usr\bin, but the `usr' is missing.

What does cygcheck -s say?
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Re: bogus PATH transformations in bash 2.05a.0(3)-release w/cygwin 1.3.10

2002-05-21 Thread Michael A Chase

On Tue, 21 May 2002 20:38:23 -0700 Kevin Layer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  What does cygcheck -s say?
 
 Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics
 Current System Time: Tue May 21 20:37:06 2002
 
 Windows 2000 Professional Ver 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2
 
 Path:C:\ODI\OStore\bin
 .
 c:\bin
 C:\Perl\bin
 C:\Cygwin\bin
 c:\cygwin\usr\bin
 C:\Cygwin\usr\local\bin
 C:\WINNT\system32
 C:\WINNT
 C:\WINNT\System32\Wbem
 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\Tools\WinNT
 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\MSDev98\Bin
 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\Tools
 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\bin
 C:\NCFTP
 C:\Program Files\Resource Pro Kit
 d:\openssl-0.9.6\out32dll
 . . .
 c:/ /c usertextmode
 d:/ /d usertextmode
 e:/ /e usertextmode
 w:  /w usertextmode
 y:  /y usertextmode
 z:  /z usertextmode
 .   /cygdrive  usertextmode,noumount
 c:\cygwin\  /  system  textmode
 c:\cygwin\/bin  /usr/bin   system  textmode
 c:\cygwin\/lib  /usr/lib   system  textmode
 .   /cygdrive  usertextmode,noumount

Your /usr/bin and /usr/lib mounts are incorrect.  There were some problems
with that with some versions of setup.exe, but I think that has been fixed
now.  In the meantime, it may have caused some files to be installed under
c:\cygwin\usr\bin\ and c:\cygwin\usr\lib\ that should have gone to
c:\cygwin\bin\ and c:\cygwin\lib\ instead, so you need to make sure
anything that got misplaced gets moved.

Note that /usr/bin/ === /bin and /usr/lib/ === /lib/ when the mounts are
correct.

To clean things up, execute the following commands in a MSDOS window:

REM Do this from a cmd.exe window, __NOT__ a bash shell window
move c:\cygwin\usr\bin\* c:\cygwin\bin\
move c:\cygwin\usr\lib\* c:\cygwin\lib\
umount /usr/bin
umount /usr/lib
mount -f -u -t C:/cygwin/bin /usr/bin
mount -f -u -t C:/cygwin/lib /usr/lib

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Re: pine dumps core on exit

2002-05-20 Thread Michael A Chase

On Mon, 20 May 2002 14:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Eduardo Chappa
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The diagnosis of your problem is correct. Your problem comes from the fact
 that you have chosen DOS over UNIX. You will need to change it unix.
 This is one of the symptoms of the error. Your addressbook should not be
 working either. Pine needs those \n, over \r\n. Please notice that
 this may require you to restart Pine from scratch (new .pinerc,
 .addressbook, etc).
 
 Is there a way to know if a user is using DOS instead of UNIX in their
 installation? I would be insterested in looking into this, although it may
 be a major change in Pine.

Since Pine appears to need to control the line endings, it should probably
open all mailboxes (at least) in binary mode.  Binary mode would have no
effect in Unixes and would do no harm in MSDOS derived systems including
DOS type Cygwin mounts.  Changing the open() or fopen() calls is likely to
cause changes in quite a few places, but it shouldn't be very difficult to
decide where it is needed.

I'm actually a bit surprised this hasn't been a problem in Win32 or MSDOS
ports of Pine.
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Re: Question

2002-05-20 Thread Michael A Chase

On Mon, 20 May 2002 22:58:48 -0400 corey grimes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 After I have downloaded the packages needed, how do I run Cygwin on my 
 Windows 98 Operating system?
 Please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the answer to my query.

Reading the instructions given at http://cygwin.com/ would be a good start.

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Re: New setup uploaded - 2.218.2.8

2002-05-16 Thread Michael A Chase

On Fri, 17 May 2002 03:31:36 +0800 D G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Harig, Mark A. maharig at idirect dot net 
 I think I see now.  I was simply letting 'setup.exe' use its defaults.
 It defaults to using 'c:\cygwin' for the Root Install Directory and
 'c:\cygwin' for the Local Package Directory.  I assumed that setup was
 searching in the '/' directory tree, but that was just a coincidence
 because my '/' mount point is 'c:\cygwin'.  In fact, setup searches in
 whatever location is provided for Local Package Directory.  I changed my
 Local Package Directory setting to c:\cygwin\setup (a directory that did
 not exist), and setup created the needed directory.  None of the parsing
 errors that I reported earlier were generated because setup no longer
 finds invalid 'setup.ini' files from other, non-setup packages.
 
 OK.  For those of us who did it the wrong way (mine is set to H:\),
 how can I change the local package directory and still keep all the
 current package information?  Is it automatic?  What about the latest
 and contrib directories?  Are those obsolete?
 
 On the other hand, would it be a good idea for setup.exe to tag its
 directories in some way, like with a zero-byte file, so that it doesn't
 take just any old setup.ini file it finds?

1. Create a new directory like c:\zip\Cygwin\ to be the local directory.
2. Move all applicable files and directories to that directory.
   Examples: setup.exe, setup.ini, release\, contrib\, latest\, ftp%3a*\

Directories contrib\ and latest\ are obsolescent, but may still have useful
files under them.

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Re: New setup uploaded - 2.218.2.8

2002-05-16 Thread Michael A Chase

On Fri, 17 May 2002 08:21:06 +1000 Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  -Original Message-
  From: Michael A Chase [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 8:11 AM
 
  Directories contrib\ and latest\ are obsolescent, but may 
  still have useful files under them.
 
 If you want to leverage those files, move the contrib/* ands latest/*
 directories to release/*.

Does that mean setup.exe is going to stop finding files under those
directories?  Last time I checked it was able to.  I thought that if the
local directory already contained contrib/ and latest/, we didn't want the
files to have to be moved or re-downloaded.

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Re: setup.exe 2.218.2.8/9 broken and I'm not much better

2002-05-16 Thread Michael A Chase

On Thu, 16 May 2002 22:29:13 +0600 Dockeen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I forgot to mention in my last email, I am going senile.
 
 Next thing you know, someone will be telling me Reagan
 isn't president any more.

True, Reagan isn't President, but Bush is.  So you aren't doing so bad.

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Re: Helpful Bug Reporting (setup.exe)

2002-05-15 Thread Michael A Chase

On Wed, 15 May 2002 06:38:24 +0600 Dockeen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When you are reporting an error, try to think like someone
 who is trying to solve the problem!  In the case of setup.exe
 problems make sure to include:
 
 (1) What version of setup you are using.  Its on the first
 screen you get after running setup, right below the symbol.
 If you have any doubt that it is the latest, go back to the
 Cygwin home page, hit refresh a couple of times, and download
 again.

The version number is also on the startup line in setup.log and
setup.log.full.  Those files are either in /var/log/ or the download local
directory.

Making a copy of setup.log.full after a problem run is also a good idea so
it will be available later if someone asks for information from it.  The
file is written anew every run, so if you don't save it before the next run
it is gone.

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Re: Cloning Kit!

2002-05-14 Thread Michael A Chase

On Tue, 14 May 2002 00:26:28 -0500 Gary R. Van Sickle 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ah hell.  What a SUCKER I am!  I bought this guy's kit, and now I don't even
 know which one is me.  But I pity the me who drank all my beer, because when I
 find me I'll be in a heap of hurt, I can tell me that.
 
 Well, it serves as an important lesson to us all: Only do business with from
 reputable spammers.

Which one of you is this?  I should probably blacklist the one that drank all
the beer.
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Re: cygwin setup freezes

2002-05-13 Thread Michael A Chase

On Mon, 13 May 2002 14:38:39 +0200 Sander Timmermans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The several download directories I created and any setup.ini files I
 could
 find related to cygwin. But I think they were in those dirs.
 2002/05/13 13:43:01 Starting cygwin install, version 2.218.2.4
 2002/05/13 13:43:01 Current Directory: C:\Documents and
 Settings\atimmer\Desktop
 2002/05/13 13:43:30 Ending cygwin install

Try creating a directory off root like c;\Cygwin_Downloads that doesn't
have any spaces in the name, use that directory instead, and see if that
helps.  It shouldn't matter, but I've always been cautions about spaces in
names.  If it does help, it would be an interesting data point.

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Re: canonpath in perl as it relates to cygwin

2002-05-06 Thread Michael A Chase

On Mon, 06 May 2002 11:56:03 -0400 Christopher Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually, unless I am totally overlooking something, this looks to be a
 step 
 backward.  Will the following regexp -
 
 $^O =~ m/^(?:qnx|nto)$/ 
 
 cause a match under cygwin in perl 5.8)?   I can't see how, but then
 again,
 I haven't actually run perl 5.8 to check what $^O returns.
 
 If not, then what I see is that the logic goes from
 
$path =~ s|/+|/|g unless($^O eq 'cygwin');
 
 to
 
 $path =~ s|/+|/|g; # xxxx  - xx/xx
 
 thus converting all paths that begin with // to a single /.  Is this
 correct 
 considering that //share/path indicates a network share under
 cygwin and probably not something one would want to upset?

Is anyone here already reporting this to perlbug?  I am willing to, but if
someone has already reported it, there is no need for a  'me too'.
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Re: canonpath in perl as it relates to cygwin

2002-05-06 Thread Michael A Chase

On Mon, 06 May 2002 16:32:25 -0400 Christopher Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is anyone here already reporting this to perlbug?  I am willing to, but if
 someone has already reported it, there is no need for a  'me too'.
 
 It wasn't yet clear to me if this was a bug, so I hadn't yet thought of doing this.
 If you would be willing to submit the report, then I would defer to you, but since
 I was the one to raise the issue, I would also be willing to do so if no one else
 does.

It is a bug and it could cause considerable trouble if it gets into Perl
5.8.  I've submitted a report to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a patch.  I sent a
copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well so you should see it here.
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Re: Keyboard Problems

2002-05-03 Thread Michael A Chase

On Fri, 3 May 2002 05:53:01 -0500  Patrick Quinnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have 2 installations, 1 at work and 1 at home. The 
 setup at home does crazy things with the keyboard. I
 have to play games with the SHIFT key to get simple
 UNIX commands : I have to hit the SHIFT key to get a 
 dash yet no SHIFT to get an *.  My work install is 
 fine.  Is there an .ini I should be looking at ???

0.  Most email clients will let you change the subject line.  It is
generally a good idea to do so when you change the topic.  It would also be
polite to trim the address list and message contents.

1.  How do you start Cygwin?  The main possibilities are the desktop icon
created by setup.exe, rxvt, and X-Windows.  They all have different
interfaces so without knowing, it's very hard to guess.  If you are using
yet another method, it is even harder.

2.  What shell are you using?  If you switch shells, (bash to tcsh or sh
for instance) do the symptoms change?

So far, this sounds more like a hardware or Windows keyboard driver problem
than a Cygwin problem.

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Re: Resource temporarily unavailable - bash fails but works with old versions

2002-05-02 Thread Michael A Chase

On Thu, 2 May 2002 11:29:03 -0400 Satya Nemana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry. Please ignore this as a false alarm. Here is an update. It does
 not occur anymore even with my new cygwin path and got fixed as follows.
 I could isolate this problem by getting rid of .profile which was same
 as .bashrc.

Thank you for letting us know.

 It is a very complex script that has several commands as follows and
 starts lots of applications using bash to run in different dos windows.
 This runs several applications simultaneously during the start-up and
 all these are running .bashrc and .profile at the same time. I guess
 that's probably why this causes this resource unavailable problem, since
 all these myapp-commands use cp, ls, chmod very frequently.
  
 + cmd /c start cmd /c bash -c 'cmd /c title myapp1; unset CYGENV;.
 .bashrc; myapp1'
 + cmd /c start cmd /c bash -c 'cmd /c title myapp2; unset CYGENV;.
 .bashrc; myapp2'
 + cmd /c start cmd /c bash -c 'cmd /c title myapp3; unset CYGENV;.
 .bashrc; myapp3'

That's a lot of cmd.exe calls there.

1.  Have you tried using cygstart.exe instead of start?  It's part of the
cygutils package.
2.  The 'title' option in %CYGWIN% may let you avoid the 'cmd /c title's.

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Re: make

2002-05-02 Thread Michael A Chase

On Thu, 02 May 2002 15:40:43 + Tim Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, I'm new to this list.  I was using cygwin a few months ago and changed 
 computers... I just installed cygwin on my new computer but can not get make 
 to be recognized.  I keep getting this message:
 bash: make: command not found
 bash: gcc: command not found
 
 obviously gcc was when I tried to compile a file.  I remember something 
 about having to get cygwin (the bash) to recognize those commands but I have 
 no idea what that was.

Setup.exe is now more selective in what it installs.  Run it again and
select the make and gcc packages.  There are probably more packages that
you would find useful, so looking at the entire list may be helpful.
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Re: Not to alarm anyone - but possible virus on http://cygwin.com/setup.exe

2002-05-02 Thread Michael A Chase

On Thu, 2 May 2002 11:04:06 -0700 Winston Gutkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Can anyone confirm or deny this? Both products mentioned are reputable virus
 checkers, so it would be nice to get some official feedback on the situation.

To date, every alarm about setup.exe has been either an invalid test by the
anti-virus software or a virus infection spread by some other means.  Send
your 'infected' copy to your anti-virus vendor if you want official
feedback __just as Elmar suggested__.

Just to be certain, I confirmed my Norton Anti-Virus is completely up to
date, downloaded a fresh copy of setup.exe, and scanned it.  It was clean. 
The way setup.exe is created and distributed makes infection at Redhat
(cygwin.com) or one of the mirrors unlikely.

Since Klez is normally spread by people opening email attachments, you
should check if you have all received similar emails recently.  A full
system virus scan would be prudent on all potentially affected systems.

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
  Of Elmar Haneke
  Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 7:36
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Not to alarm anyone - but possible virus on
  http://cygwin.com/setup.exe

  Gianni Mariani schrieb::
 
   I have some reasons to suspect that http://cygwin.com/setup.exe is
   infected with a virus that Norton and McAfree don't scan. well,
   sometimes they say it's Cles or Wez or somthing.
   This is the md5 of the setup.exe I downloaded.
  
   616c0f35c0abf14d00a82a7bea1f1b2c  setup.exe
  
   I really hope this is a false alarm but it's too coincidental to not
   bring to some-one's attention.
 
  I did download the same file, f-prot an AntiVir did not find anything
  suspect. You should send the file the the vendors of yor AV-Software,
  the should fix their scan-engine.

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Re: problem with telnet and ftp server on win 2K

2002-05-02 Thread Michael A Chase

On Thu, 02 May 2002 23:44:50 -0500 Dave Bodenstab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 David Starks-Browning wrote:
  
  This has been discussed on the mailing list before, search the
  archives.  I noticed it with cygwin-1.3.10 on NT4, and found that
  enabling ntsec solved the problem for me.  But there are lots of
  things to check, like the correctness of your /etc/passwd and
  /etc/group files, rights given to the inetd service account,
  execute permissions on the applications and cygwin1.dll, ...
  
  It's a mystery, to me, why it fails without ntsec but works with
  ntsec, all other things being the same.  But I've stopped worrying
  about it, now that I use ntsec.

 I'm totally new to nt4, so could I ask what thingy I click and
 what to change to enable this ntsec thing?  The previous poster
 mentioned that he'd been able to use the control panel, but I see
 no cygwin icon when I bring up the control panel... perhaps he's
 not using nt.  Is the registry thing what I need to change?  If so,
 how does one change it?
 
 If this stuff is discussed in a beginners guide to nt, or a help
 file that I just need to read, then a pointer would be very welcome.

It would be useful to scan the documentation at http://cygwin.com/ .  Some
of your questions are answered there.  For this, look for the CYGWIN
environment variable.

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Re: trouble again downloading.

2002-05-01 Thread Michael A Chase

On Wed, 1 May 2002 20:22:09 +0200 Pavel Tsekov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Can share with the list what choices did you make during the
 installation proccess ? I think Michael Chase already asked you about
 this but you did not respond to his message. Are you installing cygwin
 on this machine for the first time or you're upgrading existing
 installation  ? What is the operating system ?


He responded directly to me, but the response didn't include a list of what
actions he took during his attempt to use setup.exe.

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Re: trouble again downloading.

2002-05-01 Thread Michael A Chase

On Wed, 1 May 2002 14:44:29 -0400 dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 Ok, let's see i start setup via run:
 c:\temp\cyg-src\setup
 I select next. Then i select download from internet. Setup then wants to
 know where to place the downloaded files, c:\temp\cyg-src is already in
 the
 edit box so i select next. I select direct connection, then next. Setup
 downloads mirrors.lst, i select number 27 which is ftp://mirrors.rcn.net
 and
 then next. Setup then downloads setup.ini and i'm given the package list
 to
 select from. I click on the word install next to admin, archive, base,
 database, doc, devel, doc, editors, etc. basically everything but all and
 xfree86, which changes the selections from default to install. I select
 next. I immediately then get the message download complete and it has
 done
 nothing. I select ok because that's all there is and setup stops.
 Do you want my logs again?
 Dave.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Michael A Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:35 PM
 Subject: Re: trouble again downloading.
 
 
  On Wed, 1 May 2002 20:22:09 +0200 Pavel Tsekov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
   Can share with the list what choices did you make during the
   installation proccess ? I think Michael Chase already asked you about
   this but you did not respond to his message. Are you installing
 cygwin
   on this machine for the first time or you're upgrading existing
   installation  ? What is the operating system ?
 
 
  He responded directly to me, but the response didn't include a list of
 what
  actions he took during his attempt to use setup.exe.

Dave,

Why do you keep responding to only me with these messages?  I am not the
sole source of wisdom.

I have added [EMAIL PROTECTED] to this message's address list, please do
not remove it again.

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Re: cygwin installation.

2002-04-30 Thread Michael A Chase

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:54:58 -0400 dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been trying to install cygwin for the past two days and i'm not
 getting very far. I'm selecting admin, archive, base, database, doc,
 devel,
 interpreters, libs, math, net, shells, text, utils, and web, however it
 only
 appears to download minimal components. On the menu of packages i ensure
 that the above mentioned packages have the word install selected.

Please try one more time and note down the options selected in each screen.
Any popup windows that appear would also be interesting.

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Re: setup 2.194.2.24: Bug (?) in downloading from internet

2002-04-28 Thread Michael A Chase

On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 18:30:00 -0400 Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, Apr 28, 2002 at 06:07:12PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote:

 If you're on the other end of a slow connection and are apt to be
 disconnected every couple of hours, you will *never* be able to do a
 complete install since the setup.exe will start from scratch every time
 you reconnect.  It doesn't matter if you chose download from internet
 or
 not since setup.exe will only consider what's installed when considering
 what to download.  That just seems like a bug to me.

That's what the discussion has been about for the last week or so.  After
lots of requests for this functionality, the position eventually hardened
to it's not a download tool.

 If I have this right then even removing download from internet does not
 eliminate this problem.

That depends on how capable wget or rsync is.  I have not looked into it
but if we do remove the download only function from setup.exe, we (me?)
should probably add something under cygwin.com describing how to mirror
selected packages.

 So, I think the right answer to this is the standard one patches
 gratefully accepted.

If download handling is going to change, at least Robert will have to buy
into it.  A request for patches can follow that.

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Minor Problems with the New Win32 Binary

2002-04-28 Thread Michael A Chase

I just copied the new Win32 binary into my system and started using it.

1.  (not problem) The activity log is definitely getting written to file
now.  Thanks.  That allows me to close the window and still have the log
available if there are problems.

2.  Changing the Message List view column widths from a global property
to an inheritable folder property is nice, but it would be nicer if
there was some way to set it at the top level folder so I don't have to
fiddle with the registry or set it in each folder tree separately.

3.  (not new) The signature separator put in the Compose window if Use
signature separator checkbox is selected in the Preferences Compose
tab doesn't have the required trailing space.

4.  The widgets for Configure XFace have disappeared from the
Preferences Compose tab.

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Re: Minor Problems with the New Win32 Binary

2002-04-28 Thread Michael A Chase

On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 16:04:41 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Michael A Chase 
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Pease ignore.  I hit the wrong address.
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