On 9/9/2024 4:39 PM, René Berber via Cygwin wrote:
On 9/9/2024 12:23 PM, Eliot Moss via Cygwin wrote:
Dear Cygwiners --
For convenience, I would like to mount my OneDrive folder under / cygdrive/o.
I put this line in my /etc/fstab:
c:/Users/Eliot\040Moss/OneDrive /cygdrive/o ntfs binary
,posix=0,user "/c/Users/Eliot Moss/OneDrive" /foo
results in this output if /foo does not exist:
mount: warning - /foo does not exist.
mount: /foo: Invalid argument
and this output if I do mkdir /foo first:
mount: /foo: Invalid argument
Using \040 instead of the space for the quoted co
ename match.
See also its -ipath and -iregex operators.
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You can volunteer to set up the package and become its maintainer ...
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ation, and
then copy back. This could be delicate because of links and such.
Maybe other folks have other suggestions?
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On 8/27/2024 11:31 AM, Jon Turney via Cygwin wrote:
On 27/08/2024 09:21, Mark Liam Brown via Cygwin wrote:
Greetings!
/usr/bin/uptime always reports 0/0/0 average cpu load:
$ uptime
10:09:01 up 15:59, 0 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
is this a known bug?
Kind of.
Due to windows AP
share the version of procps-ng, of cygwin, and your
Windows OS? I'm not the maintainer, but I also get the 0's and am
curious if I can revert to get the proper behavior back for now.
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On 8/23/2024 9:28 AM, Andrey Repin via Cygwin wrote:
Greetings, All!
\\DAEMON1.DARKDRAGON.LAN\arc\cygwin\install>setup-x86_64.exe --site
http://ctm.crouchingtigerhiddenfruitbat.org/pub/cygwin/circa/64bit/2024/01/30/231215
--only-site --no-verify --no-warn-deprecated-windows
Starting cygwin ins
trace got as far as it did. But I suggest reinstalling those two
programs. Not sure how those exe's got zapped. Maybe an installation
upgrade did not complete properly ...
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ime to do more.
You are on your own with 32 bit dropped,
Does Cygwin 3.6 still compile on 32bit?
AFAIK, yes, though most folks don't compile it themselves.
I just download things.
so ask questions on forums like SO.
What is SO?
StackOverflow.
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On 4/21/2024 7:20 PM, Dan Shelton via Cygwin wrote:
On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 at 07:39, Brian Inglis via Cygwin wrote:
On 2024-04-19 17:47, Dan Shelton via Cygwin wrote:
On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 at 22:25, Dan Shelton wrote:
Is there a package which provides /usr/bin/sg (execute shell commands
in a diff
n' instead of -a -n. Perhaps some other
variation of quoting will be needed to make clear to cygrunsrv
that the -n is for the application, not for cygrunsrv.
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_PATH (upper case variable name).
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On 3/22/2024 11:56 AM, J M via Cygwin wrote:
Help with use of pgrep or pkill commands with full name options.
I trying to use pgrep or pkill utility commands to find processes but using
the full path names, by example, find /usr/bin/bash (package procps-ng):
Then, if I use pgrep -f /usr/bin/bas
is not different, it will still not rename the
.sh to sh.done ...
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the concept of root in POSIX. SYSTEM (in my experience) is used for things
like backup tools that needs access to almost every file. Administrators is for
system administration. I don't have deep knowledge of all of this - others can
give a deeper / more nuanced answer.
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of a POSIX universe. Using cygwin programs to call Windows based
tools can quickly get problematic.
A *potential* solution for you is to find and use a Windows vim to
talk with Windows based programs.
Maybe other people have specific knowledge / fixes for you ...
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On 12/20/2023 7:32 PM, Jim Garrison via Cygwin wrote:
I dug around in the Cygwin doc looking for details on how /dev/random
and /dev/urandom are implemented, but came up empty. Is this
documented anywhere?
Writing a simple program and then watching where reading /dev/random
goes using gdb sugg
folder:
lrwxrwxrwx 1 moss Eliot Moss 11 Aug 26 2022 c -> /cygdrive/c
lrwxrwxrwx 1 moss Eliot Moss 11 Aug 26 2022 d -> /cygdrive/d
lrwxrwxrwx 1 moss Eliot Moss 11 Oct 6 12:53 o -> /cygdrive/o
These allow me to write /c/ instead of the longer /cygdrive/c/, etc.
This arrang
On 12/16/2023 10:55 PM, Karl Crary via Cygwin wrote:
Dear all,
I am encountering a bug wherein Cygwin is not passing arguments to most Windows programs (although Cygwin programs are
doing fine).
For example, the following command ought to be dumping a lot of usage information, but instead it
erflow.com/questions/645992/sleep-until-a-specific-time-date
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On 11/29/2023 4:13 PM, Jose Isaias Cabrera via Cygwin wrote:
On Monday, November 27, 2023 02:46 AM, Matthias--- expressed:
Am Sonntag, dem 26.11.2023 um 12:21 -0700 schrieb Brian Inglis via Cygwin:
On 2023-11-26 10:12, Matthias--- via Cygwin wrote:
Am Samstag, dem 25.11.2023 um 19:45 +0100 sc
they are.
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On 11/22/2023 4:38 PM, Jose Isaias Cabrera wrote:
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 11:15 AM, Eliot Moss expressed:
On 11/22/2023 10:43 AM, Bill Stewart via Cygwin wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 7:53 AM Jose Isaias Cabrera wrote:
[clip]
>> desktop. No Cygwin nor Cygwin-X folders wer
On 11/22/2023 10:43 AM, Bill Stewart via Cygwin wrote:
On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 7:53 AM Jose Isaias Cabrera wrote:
I have a new Win11 PC, and I wanted to capture the same Cygwin setup that I
have in another Win10 PC. I copied the C:\cygwin64 folder from the Win10 pc
to the Win11 pc, then I downl
ISO files under Windows.
Once the ISO drive is mounted, it should be visible to Cygwin as an
ordinary drive under /cygdrive according to its drive letter.
This does not make virt-manager work; instead it avoids the need for
it.
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On 10/14/2023 7:39 AM, Cedric Blancher via Cygwin wrote:
On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 at 19:14, Brian Inglis wrote:
On 2023-08-11 09:44, Cedric Blancher via Cygwin wrote:
How can we set the scheduler priority for a Cygwin process to "higher"
than normal on start?
Basically we want a Cygwin compatible
updated? Since this is the case with ruby, I am
guessing it's likely the case with other packages in Cygwin too.
Is there a backlog for Cygwin somewhere, so that I can investigate this myself
if I have time this winter?
Thank you and all the best,
Eric
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From: Eliot
eer and is behind, or fell off the radar."
Someone else will know how to look up if there is a currently
registered volunteer for Ruby ...
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This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or
proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity
under Cygwin,
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On 8/29/2023 9:43 AM, Eliot Moss wrote:
On 8/29/2023 9:17 AM, Mario Emmenlauer via Cygwin wrote:
On 29.08.23 14:32, Adam Kessel via Cygwin wrote:
I've found rsync to be painfully slow on large folders -- hours to sync thousands of files, even
when they already match size and --size-on
tools.
As a separate example, try to download the boost source code, and extract the archive. I can do the
extraction in way under a minute on Linux, but have to wait many many minutes on a similarly
equipped Windows machine.
Just my two cents.
Mario
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On 7/30/2023 5:38 AM, natan_b--- via Cygwin wrote:
Hi Guys
very short.
prog.c
#include
int main()
{
float a=1.283;
while(1)
printf( "%f", a );
}
run with
$ ./prog.exe >/dev/null
in windows monitor process the process increase it's memory it arrive to many Gb.
It's not a machine p
Digging a little further ...
The conflicting dll was /bin/cygpng16-16.dll.
rebase display it with a * indicating that there was a space conflict
for it. So I did a rebase-trigger full and ran setup again. Now
these two dlls share the same spot:
/usr/bin/cygp11-kit-0.dll
/usr/lib/p11-kit-proxy
On 7/9/2023 11:56 AM, Ken Brown via Cygwin wrote:
On 7/8/2023 9:37 PM, Eliot Moss via Cygwin wrote:
Dear cygwin-ers --
I'm running 64-bit cygwin 3.4.7-1 and lately I've been getting these vfork
errors from emacs-gtk when I try to run dired on a directory. I believe this
tries to
post; cygwin@cygwin.com would be enough for now, so I have
trimmed other lists from my response.)
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On 5/6/2023 11:44 PM, Bernard Rich via Cygwin wrote:
Hello, I have read the introductory advice but still do not understand how
to access datasets stored on *C:* or on flash drives. Can you please point
me to the correct reference or email me the instructions?
You can give a full path startin
A wondering in all this ...
Does having more spawn support imply that bash (for example)
may end up doing faster process spawning, skipping some of
high overhead we've lived with for a long time because of
the Windows process spawning model?
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On 4/14/2023 3:43 PM, Eliot Moss via Cygwin wrote:
On 4/14/2023 3:11 PM, Corinna Vinschen via Cygwin wrote:
On Apr 13 23:03, Eliot Moss via Cygwin wrote:
Dear cygwin'ers -
I seem to be caught in a bind with the Cygwin permissions setup.
ssh insists that ~/.ssh/config have permissions no
On 4/14/2023 3:11 PM, Corinna Vinschen via Cygwin wrote:
On Apr 13 23:03, Eliot Moss via Cygwin wrote:
Dear cygwin'ers -
I seem to be caught in a bind with the Cygwin permissions setup.
ssh insists that ~/.ssh/config have permissions no less permissive than
rw--- (600).
Huh? N
On 4/13/2023 11:03 PM, Eliot Moss via Cygwin wrote:
Dear cygwin'ers -
I seem to be caught in a bind with the Cygwin permissions setup.
ssh insists that ~/.ssh/config have permissions no less permissive than
rw--- (600).
---> should have read no *more* permissive (sent too late
emembering the solution to the conundrum?
Note: I have Administrator privilege on my machine, but that doesn't help,
since the backup tool runs under SYSTEM, a different account.
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r*
that contains notepad++.exe ...
Note that path (written PATH, and generally exported) contains folder names
separated by colons.
To add to the end you can do:
export PATH="$PATH:/cygdrive/c/Program Files/notepad++"
Note: no \ in front of space inside the quotes.
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Personally, I'd go with the first option, since CYgwin nano is more likely to
play nicely with Cygwin files ...
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On 2/24/2023 2:07 PM, chrstfer via Cygwin wrote:
Moss,
Have you made any major changes to your cygwin X server settings? I tried this
with a fresh install of the cygwin Xserver suite, first thing i did, but was
unable to get it to work.
I assume you are using Docker Desktop? Do you have it in
pite being a microsoft project)
If it's of any help in understanding this, in wsl I set DISPLAY=:0
and can start X apps that connect to the Cygwin X server. I wonder
if there are issues trying to run two X servers at the same time ...
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On 2/22/2023 7:03 AM, Jose Isaias Cabrera via Cygwin wrote:
On February 21, 2023 2:52 AM, Csaba Raduly expressed:
Because you're not on Windows. You're on Cygwin, which acts as a POSIX
(Unix-like) system.
Wow! Thanks for that deep thought. :-) I knew that. :-) I have been using
Cygwin sinc
If you will be running X (and Cygwin supports, but does not require that),
then the xorg backend (meaning: not the Windows one) with pynput (note, that
package has no "i" in its name) may achieve your goal.
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Ok ... assuming the "Modern C" is more or less POSIX based and
does not use things outside the realm of what cygwin supplies,
I think the answer is straightforward:
Make sure you install every program and every library that the
book uses. There's not really such a thing as a "full install"
for C
On 2/7/2023 3:28 PM, Yeo Kai Wei wrote:
On 7/2/2023 9:54 am, Eliot Moss wrote:
On 2/7/2023 11:34 AM, Yeo Kai Wei wrote:
On 7/2/2023 7:27 am, Eliot Moss wrote:
On 2/7/2023 10:03 AM, Yeo Kai Wei via Cygwin wrote:
On 7/2/2023 4:59 am, gs-cygwin@gluelogic.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 07, 2023
On 2/7/2023 2:56 PM, Yeo Kai Wei wrote:
On 7/2/2023 9:54 am, Eliot Moss wrote:
On 2/7/2023 11:34 AM, Yeo Kai Wei wrote:
On 7/2/2023 7:27 am, Eliot Moss wrote:
On 2/7/2023 10:03 AM, Yeo Kai Wei via Cygwin wrote:
On 7/2/2023 4:59 am, gs-cygwin@gluelogic.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 07, 2023
On 2/7/2023 11:34 AM, Yeo Kai Wei wrote:
On 7/2/2023 7:27 am, Eliot Moss wrote:
On 2/7/2023 10:03 AM, Yeo Kai Wei via Cygwin wrote:
On 7/2/2023 4:59 am, gs-cygwin@gluelogic.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 04:33:53AM +0800, Yeo Kai Wei wrote:
I updated Cygwin to 3.4.5-1.x86_64
On 2/7/2023 11:21 AM, Yeo Kai Wei wrote:
On 7/2/2023 7:50 am, Eliot Moss wrote:
On 2/7/2023 10:48 AM, Yeo Kai Wei wrote:
On 7/2/2023 7:27 am, Eliot Moss wrote:
On 2/7/2023 10:03 AM, Yeo Kai Wei via Cygwin wrote:
On 7/2/2023 4:59 am, gs-cygwin@gluelogic.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 07, 2023
On 2/7/2023 10:48 AM, Yeo Kai Wei wrote:
On 7/2/2023 7:27 am, Eliot Moss wrote:
On 2/7/2023 10:03 AM, Yeo Kai Wei via Cygwin wrote:
On 7/2/2023 4:59 am, gs-cygwin@gluelogic.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 04:33:53AM +0800, Yeo Kai Wei wrote:
I updated Cygwin to 3.4.5-1.x86_64
On 2/7/2023 10:03 AM, Yeo Kai Wei via Cygwin wrote:
On 7/2/2023 4:59 am, gs-cygwin@gluelogic.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 04:33:53AM +0800, Yeo Kai Wei wrote:
I updated Cygwin to 3.4.5-1.x86_64.
$ uname -a
CYGWIN_NT-10.0-19045 DESKTOP-P3E71RB 3.4.5-1.x86_64 2023-01-19 19:09 UTC x8
"gcc -o
selectStdIn selectStdIn.c"
Thank you.
My guess is that those fd set things aren't POSIX, and cygwin tries to model
POSIX.
Comments at the top of /usr/include/sys/select.h suggest that.
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On 1/15/2023 3:38 AM, Christian Franke via Cygwin wrote:
Eliot Moss via Cygwin wrote:
I have a separate drive mounted this way:
d:/ /cygdrive/d ntfs binary,posix=0,user,noacl,auto 0 0
One thing I use it for is to store backup files. These tend to be 2 Gb
chunks, and there can be hundreds of
em to suffer this delay.
Any notion as to what is happening and what I might do to ameliorate it?
If it matters, the drive is removable (an external WD MyPassport hard drive).
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On 12/9/2022 9:43 PM, Jose Isaias Cabrera wrote:
On Friday, December 9, 2022 6:33 PM, Eliot Moss expressed:
On 12/9/2022 4:34 PM, Jose Isaias Cabrera via Cygwin wrote:
This is a bit of a shot in the dark, but I wonder about search paths and find
the DLL when trying to start the program. Is
environment variable?
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On 10/30/2022 8:21 AM, Jon Turney wrote:
On 14/10/2022 16:58, Eliot Moss wrote:
Dear Cygwiners -
I am having an issue under Windows 11 where new windows, when spawned from the command line of
(say) Cygwin bash or WSL2 bash come up *behind* current Windows. This behavior seems new to
Windows
:
- Spawn Word from Cygwin bash
- Spawn okular from WSL 2
If I spawn xterm from Cygwin bash, it comes up in front, but from WSL2 bash, it comes up behind. My
X server is the Cygwin one. Happy to provide more details if this is not enough.
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7;t own, or buy copies of the relevant
Helvetica typefaces.
Something I might try first is researching how fontconfig can allow
you to set up substitutions.
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code is ready, it is swapped in, replacing the interpreted byte code. So, if
your system has multiple cores (like mine) and is not overloaded, you may not
see slow down - only eventual speed up.
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On 9/8/2022 2:00 AM, Christian Franke wrote:
Eliot Moss wrote:
If data in /etc/setup is still intact, a quick way with the GUI should be run to the recent 2.921 RC
release of setup, select the "Up To Date" view and then press and hold Ctrl+R.
https://sourceware.org/pipermail/c
Dear Cygwiners -
I've not been able to find a way to get setup, when used from the command
line, to *re*install an existing package, so as to repair any brokenness.
For context, I had my disk get trashed and restored from a cloud backup.
However, that tool is not entirely competent about everyth
On 8/31/2022 4:40 PM, René Berber wrote:
On 8/31/2022 1:39 PM, Eliot Moss wrote:
On 8/31/2022 1:41 PM, Toyoshima Denis wrote:
Hi there, how are you?
I’d like to know if there’s any possibility of running simple commands inside Cygwin through
Python code
me/moss
I could also do:
C:\cygwin64\bin\ls.exe /cygdrive/c/cygwin64/home/moss
You could also go through two steps, using the cygpath program to
convert paths to the desired form for a Cygwin program to obtain
a Cygwin form name to pass to a Cygwin program.
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On 7/28/2022 11:20 PM, Krishnaveni K S wrote:
Dear Yano,
Thank you so much for the support.
I have use 64 bit download from cygwin and used the demo files for test run.
Haven't used 32 bit..
Can you please suggest how to solve this?
With regards
Krishnaveni
What is grow? Where is it coming fr
On 7/15/2022 12:44 PM, Kevin M. Wilson via Cygwin wrote:
Greetings, Well, I've gone and done something, and I don't know how to fix
it...Please help!
I start a terminal window on my windows machine, ssh'g to my Linux box. At the top
lefthand corner of that window is a tilde, "~bash". The wor
m/tool reorder the DACLs! It will break the Cygwin
functionality, and the Cygwin order does not break Windows functionality.
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On 6/20/2022 9:24 AM, Ken Brown wrote:
> On 6/20/2022 6:22 AM, Takashi Yano wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 17:59:35 +0900
>> Takashi Yano wrote:
>>> Isn't this a bug of newlib? Try following code.
>>>
>>> #include
>>>
>>> int main()
>>> {
>>> printf("%d\n", getchar());
>>> printf("%d\n", f
On 6/16/2022 11:29 AM, Takashi Yano wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 06:22:38 +0200
Thomas Wolff wrote:
Am 15.06.2022 um 20:30 schrieb Adam Dinwoodie:
Cygwin generally handles filenames with colons just fine, by mapping the
character to some higher Unicode character and remapping on the fly.
However
X applications
you like.
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e the new version triggers some anti-virus
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be necessary to include terminfo. Takashi may know more
on this point, of course ...
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GDB debugger? Please, help.
First, you don't need source for a fully functional gdb. Just select gdb
and possibly choose which version. If you want source, check the Src? box.
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in yourself or convince someone to
do it.
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ote disk drive, and
you have Cygwin interact with files on that drive. But it's
not like a web browser and web pages that send tracking info
to servers behind your back, etc. It's pretty much like Linux.
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On 4/7/2022 11:13 AM, airplanemath via Cygwin wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 07 2022, Eliot Moss wrote:
>
>> Dear Cygwin-ers --
>>
>> Today I had use for pdftotext. It man page is installed, but the program
>> itself is missing. On Ubuntu (etc.) it is part of the xpdf pac
though this worth asking about.
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s the fact that their version is old and should
be updated. This often happens because someone bundled
Cygwin with something else and is not updating the
Cygwin version.
Modern versions no longer generate the message.
In sum, the auto-responder is the best thing we can do
about it. At least we don
On 3/22/2022 6:35 PM, Piotr Gliźniewicz wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to run a command at a specific "Windows" path. Basically something similar to what chere
does for bash, but I want to execute ls in bash for a specific directory. I've tried variations of
what chere leaves in the registry:
C:\cygw
On 3/19/2022 5:51 PM, Clayton Cramer wrote:
I installed everything, but that does not seem to include bc.
So you went through and explicitly asked for each package?
If you did, then that would include bc, since it is one of
the packages. I'm now confused. How did you request
"everything"?
Re
On 3/19/2022 2:33 PM, Clayton Cramer wrote:
Cygwin Setup - Select Packages says there are no packages to install or update. No is there a bc
executable under \cygwin
You have to select packages explicitly.
It does not just blindly install all of them - that's a lot of stuff,
and for various r
recompiled for Cygwin (often with patches
to make them compile properly under Cygwin).
bc is (logically enough) in the bc package.
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On 3/8/2022 4:49 AM, Russell VT wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 7:33 PM Eliot Moss mailto:m...@cs.umass.edu>> wrote:
>
> On 3/6/2022 9:00 PM, Russell VT wrote:
> > Are you running Thunderbird under Cygwin (ie. in an "X" environment?),
or are you running it
On 3/6/2022 9:00 PM, Russell VT wrote:
Eliot -
Are you running Thunderbird under Cygwin (ie. in an "X" environment?), or are you running it
directly from Windows?
Thanks for responding, Russell. Directly under Windows.
Can it run under Cygwin? I am running Cygwin/X with
emacs, xterm, okular
many keystrokes / mouse actions) way
to get stuff from Thunderbird, edit, and get it back into TBird?
This is why I am still on Thunderbird 68.12 (!).
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solid state drive! Actually, those speeds may be reasonable depending on the
nature of your system.)
If the two locations are on different drives, there's no real avoiding this.
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On 1/28/2022 10:46 AM, Thomas Wolff wrote:
If I redirect output of `ls -C` (file / pipe), it used to produce
well-formatted output in columns.
Suddenly it produces garbage formatting instead. As `ls` itself is not new, maybe it's some library
that breaks behaviour?
Or even pty code?? Works on
seems to build and work reasonably well.
Another angle is this Qt library (though I am not sure if it
works under Cygwin):
https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qfilesystemwatcher.html
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On 1/13/2022 1:40 AM, Jay K wrote:
I don't know why I didn't get the reply in email, but this is representative of
the real world code.
- Jay
From: Jay K
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2022 6:27 AM
To: cyg...@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: proc_waiter: error on read of child wait pipe 0x0, Win
X-like interface, not a Windows-like one. However, if ExitProcess is a
Windows
function, there is probably a library you can use to obtain it in Cygwin (maybe
the winsup (Windows support) library).
Eliot Moss
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