RE: Problem with cygserver and sysv message queues: msgsnd() blocks forever.

2008-04-30 Thread Williams, David
Yes, I can patch and build the sources, and will test the patch. I
can see that this will work, and is probably the least disruptive
way to fix it. I'm bothered a little bit by the fixed timeout value,
although this is an exceptional case, which shouldn't occur in a
properly tuned and managed system.

My thoughts for a fix were centered around replacing the msqptr
ident parameter with a resource specific identifier that would
allow freeing a resource by one queue to wake another. However,
such a fix would require much regression testing, and STILL might
need a timeout like this as an ultimate safety net. Besides, we
likely want to continue tracking the BSD source.

I'm currently building and testing using the cygwin-1.5.25-12 release
tarball. Would it be more helpful for me to pull the CVS head down
to test this?

Thanks for the quick reply. I'm glad to be of some help.

Dave Williams

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Corinna Vinschen
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 3:59 AM
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Problem with cygserver and sysv message queues: msgsnd() blocks 
forever.

On Apr 29 17:57, Williams, David wrote:
 I've been debugging a problem with msgsnd() hanging. If
 there are no free msghdrs available, msgsnd() blocks with
 msleep(). Unfortunately, the only way it can unblock is
 if that specific queue frees a msghdr. If the queue in
 question is empty, this never occurs.
 [...]
 It's possible to work around this by using the flag IPC_NOWAIT
 in msgsnd, and polling until the message is sent, but my feeling
 is that the library call should not hang like this.
 [...]
 The call to msleep() above passes msqptr (the queue handle)
 as the Ident pointer. Each of the calls to wakeup() in
 sysv_msg.cc also passes msgptr as the ident. This means that
 if the msghdr resource is free'd by a queue other than the one
 blocked, it won't wake up msgsnd(). Since doqueue's queue is
 empty, there is no way to wake up msgsnd().
 [...]
 I haven't been able to spot a way to fix this behavior without
 significantly changing the block/release mechanism. Has anyone
 seen this before? Have I missed something? Is this simply a known
 limitation, with IPC_NOWAIT the only way to deal with it?

Right now, yes.  As you have probably seen when examining the sources,
the code is pretty much the FreeBSD version, just with a thin and almost
tasteless Cygwin topping.  The code is basically the version 1.52 of
the original FreeBSD code with a few patches applied up to version 1.60.
FreeBSD is at 1.71.  I inspected the FreeBSD ChangeLogs and found this
change in version 1.65:

  Fix msgsnd(3)/msgrcv(3) deadlock under heavy resource pressure by
  timing out msgsnd and rechecking resources.  This problem was found
  while I was running Linux Test Project test suite (test cases:
  msgctl08, msgctl09).  [...]

This appears to be their solution to the above problem.  The basic
change is the call to msleep.  The last parameter is changed from 0 (no
timeout) to a value called hz.  See
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c.diff?r1=1.64;r2=1.65
hz is an external variable in the code which is the system's clock
frequency.

Are you set up to build the Cygwin sources?  Would you mind to rebuild
cygserver with this patch applied and test without IPC_NOWAIT again?

Index: sysv_msg.cc
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/src/winsup/cygserver/sysv_msg.cc,v
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -p -r1.3 sysv_msg.cc
--- sysv_msg.cc 9 Jan 2006 15:10:14 -   1.3
+++ sysv_msg.cc 30 Apr 2008 10:57:58 -
@@ -722,10 +722,14 @@ msgsnd(struct thread *td, struct msgsnd_
}
DPRINTF((goodnight\n));
error = msleep(msqptr, msq_mtx, (PZERO - 4) | PCATCH,
-   msgwait, 0);
+   msgsnd, 50);
DPRINTF((good morning, error=%d\n, error));
if (we_own_it)
msqptr-msg_perm.mode = ~MSG_LOCKED;
+   if (error == EWOULDBLOCK) {
+   DPRINTF((timed out\n));
+   continue;
+   }
if (error != 0) {
DPRINTF((msgsnd:  interrupted system call\n));
 #ifdef __CYGWIN__
@@ -1079,11 +1083,11 @@ msgrcv(struct thread *td, struct msgrcv_

DPRINTF((msgrcv:  goodnight\n));
error = msleep(msqptr, msq_mtx, (PZERO - 4) | PCATCH,
-   msgwait, 0);
+   msgrcv, 0);
DPRINTF((msgrcv:  good morning (error=%d)\n, error));

if (error != 0) {
-   DPRINTF((msgsnd:  interrupted system call\n));
+   DPRINTF((msgrcv:  interrupted system call\n));
 #ifdef __CYGWIN__
if (error != EIDRM

RE: Problem with cygserver and sysv message queues: msgsnd() blocks forever.

2008-04-30 Thread Williams, David
Corinna,

I can report that the patch works perfectly. Both with the examples
and with our original application program that brought the bug to
our attention.

Dave Williams

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Corinna Vinschen
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:58 AM
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Problem with cygserver and sysv message queues: msgsnd() blocks 
forever.

On Apr 30 10:16, Williams, David wrote:
 Yes, I can patch and build the sources, and will test the patch. I
 can see that this will work, and is probably the least disruptive
 way to fix it. I'm bothered a little bit by the fixed timeout value,
 although this is an exceptional case, which shouldn't occur in a
 properly tuned and managed system.

I'm not that concerned.  A fixed value of 50 will interrupt a maximum of
20 times per second.  The hz value in BSD is usually higher.  I think 50
is a good compromise.

 My thoughts for a fix were centered around replacing the msqptr
 ident parameter with a resource specific identifier that would
 allow freeing a resource by one queue to wake another. However,
 such a fix would require much regression testing, and STILL might
 need a timeout like this as an ultimate safety net. Besides, we
 likely want to continue tracking the BSD source.

There's surely some better way to solve this problem but if there's
an upstream fix, I'd like to use it.  My goal is to keep the code as
much upstream centered as possible.

 I'm currently building and testing using the cygwin-1.5.25-12 release
 tarball. Would it be more helpful for me to pull the CVS head down
 to test this?

Shouldn't matter, actually.  There's no difference in the message queue
code between 1.5.25 and CVS HEAD.  However, the bugfix will only go into
CVS HEAD.  If you need this bugfix desperately, please maintain your
local version for now.

 Thanks for the quick reply. I'm glad to be of some help.

You're welcome.  Thanks for the debugging effort and the testcase.
You almost did all the work yourself already, I just had to look
what upstream is doing about it :)

I'll check this in in a couple of minutes.


Thanks again,
Corinna

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Problem with cygserver and sysv message queues: msgsnd() blocks forever.

2008-04-29 Thread Williams, David
I've been debugging a problem with msgsnd() hanging. If there are no free 
msghdrs available, msgsnd() blocks with msleep(). Unfortunately, the only way 
it can unblock is if that specific queue frees a msghdr. If the queue in 
question is empty, this never occurs. I was able to isolate this behavior in 
set of examples, which I've attached. The program doqueue.c establishes a queue 
and upon each ENTER, calls msgsnd() followed by msgrcv(). Start this one first 
and verify that messages cycle normally.

In another window, run overflow.c. This establishes a different queue, and 
calls msgsnd() until the queue is full, then exits. In the default 
configuration, that will happen at 40 messages. Go back to the first window and 
press ENTER. the call to msgsnd() will block. Then, either run drainq to remove 
messages from overflow's queue, or use ipcrm -q 4660 to delete the queue 
entirely. Doqueue will remain blocked.

It's possible to work around this by using the flag IPC_NOWAIT in msgsnd, and 
polling until the message is sent, but my feeling is that the library call 
should not hang like this.

Here is the code in question:

From sysv_msg.cc, function msgsnd():
=
if (free_msghdrs == NULL) {
DPRINTF((no more msghdrs\n));
need_more_resources = 1;
}

if (need_more_resources) {
int we_own_it;

if ((msgflg  IPC_NOWAIT) != 0) {
DPRINTF((need more resources but caller 
doesn't want to wait\n));
error = EAGAIN;
goto done2;
}

if ((msqptr-msg_perm.mode  MSG_LOCKED) != 0) {
DPRINTF((we don't own the msqid_ds\n));
we_own_it = 0;
} else {
/* Force later arrivals to wait for our
   request */
DPRINTF((we own the msqid_ds\n));
msqptr-msg_perm.mode |= MSG_LOCKED;
we_own_it = 1;
}
DPRINTF((goodnight\n));
error = msleep(msqptr, msq_mtx, (PZERO - 4) | PCATCH,
msgwait, 0);
DPRINTF((good morning, error=%d\n, error));
==

The call to msleep() above passes msqptr (the queue handle) as the Ident 
pointer. Each of the calls to wakeup() in sysv_msg.cc also passes msgptr as the 
ident. This means that if the msghdr resource is free'd by a queue other than 
the one blocked, it won't wake up msgsnd(). Since doqueue's queue is empty, 
there is no way to wake up msgsnd().

Here is a snippet from /var/log/messages:
Apr 29 13:38:16 motonao cygserver: call to msgsnd(131072, 0x22CCD8, 1, 0)
Apr 29 13:38:16 motonao cygserver: msgsz=1, msgssz=8, segs_needed=1
Apr 29 13:38:16 motonao cygserver: no more msghdrs
Apr 29 13:38:16 motonao cygserver: we own the msqid_ds
Apr 29 13:38:16 motonao cygserver: goodnight
Apr 29 13:38:24 motonao cygserver: msgget(0x1234, 00)
Apr 29 13:38:24 motonao cygserver: found public key
Apr 29 13:38:24 motonao cygserver: call to msgrcv(196609, 0x22CCD8, 1, 0, 0)
Apr 29 13:38:24 motonao cygserver: found a message, msgsz=1, msg_ts=1

The first line is doqueue's last call to msgsnd(). It finds there are no free 
msghdrs and logs the message no more msghdrs, then logs goodnight and calls 
msleep(). The call to msgrcv is drainq removing a message from the overflow 
queue. This is the point where we would like to see the good morning message 
from msgsnd(), but we don't.

I haven't been able to spot a way to fix this behavior without significantly 
changing the block/release mechanism. Has anyone seen this before? Have I 
missed something? Is this simply a known limitation, with IPC_NOWAIT the only 
way to deal with it?

~

David Williams
Solekai Systems


#include stdio.h
#include stdlib.h
#include unistd.h
#include ctype.h
#include sys/types.h
#include sys/ipc.h
#include sys/msg.h
#include errno.h

#define MSGQ_KEY 0x1234
#define PERM 0660

struct mymsg {
  long mtype;
  char mtext[1];
};

int
main()
{
  int msg_id; /* message Queue id. */
  struct mymsg msg; /* message to send. */
  int nmsg; /* number of msg send. */
  int status; /* status returned by msgsnd(). */

  /*
   * Create Message Queue
   */
  if ( (msg_id = msgget (MSGQ_KEY, PERM | IPC_CREAT)) == -1 ) {
perror (msgget: );
exit (EXIT_FAILURE);
  }
  /*
   * now write message one by one until Queue is full
   */
  msg.mtype = 1;
  msg.mtext[0] = 'A';
  nmsg = 0;
  do {
printf (Receiving #%d\n, nmsg);
status = msgrcv (msg_id, msg, sizeof(msg.mtext), 0, 0);
printf (Received msg #%d\n, nmsg);
nmsg++;
  }
  while ( tolower(getchar()) != 'q' );
  
  
  
  exit (EXIT_SUCCESS);
} 
#include stdio.h
#include stdlib.h
#include unistd.h
#include sys/types.h
#include sys/ipc.h
#include sys/msg.h
#include errno.h

#define MSGQ_KEY 0x1234
#define PERM 0660

struct mymsg {
  long mtype;
  char mtext[1];
};

int
main()
{
  int msg_id; /* message Queue id. */
  struct mymsg msg; /* message to send. */
  int nmsg; /* number of msg send. */
  int status; /* 

Problem with cygserver and sysv message queues: msgsnd() blocks forever.

2008-04-29 Thread Williams, David
Sorry, the first try was badly formatted. I didn't realize
until I checked the archive site.

I've been debugging a problem with msgsnd() hanging. If
there are no free msghdrs available, msgsnd() blocks with
msleep(). Unfortunately, the only way it can unblock is
if that specific queue frees a msghdr. If the queue in
question is empty, this never occurs. I was able to isolate
this behavior in set of examples, which I've attached. The
program doqueue.c establishes a queue and upon each ENTER,
calls msgsnd() followed by msgrcv(). Start this one first
and verify that messages cycle normally.

In another window, run overflow.c. This establishes a
different queue, and calls msgsnd() until the queue is full,
then exits. In the default configuration, that will happen at
40 messages. Go back to the first window and press ENTER. the
call to msgsnd() will block. Then, either run drainq to remove
messages from overflow's queue, or use ipcrm -q 4660 to delete
the queue entirely. Doqueue will remain blocked.

It's possible to work around this by using the flag IPC_NOWAIT
in msgsnd, and polling until the message is sent, but my feeling
is that the library call should not hang like this.

Here is the code in question:

From sysv_msg.cc, function msgsnd():
=
if (free_msghdrs == NULL) {
DPRINTF((no more msghdrs\n));
need_more_resources = 1;
}

if (need_more_resources) {
int we_own_it;

if ((msgflg  IPC_NOWAIT) != 0) {
DPRINTF((need more resources but caller 
doesn't want to wait\n));
error = EAGAIN;
goto done2;
}

if ((msqptr-msg_perm.mode  MSG_LOCKED) != 0) {
DPRINTF((we don't own the msqid_ds\n));
we_own_it = 0;
} else {
/* Force later arrivals to wait for our
   request */
DPRINTF((we own the msqid_ds\n));
msqptr-msg_perm.mode |= MSG_LOCKED;
we_own_it = 1;
}
DPRINTF((goodnight\n));
error = msleep(msqptr, msq_mtx, (PZERO - 4) | PCATCH,
msgwait, 0);
DPRINTF((good morning, error=%d\n, error));
==

The call to msleep() above passes msqptr (the queue handle)
as the Ident pointer. Each of the calls to wakeup() in
sysv_msg.cc also passes msgptr as the ident. This means that
if the msghdr resource is free'd by a queue other than the one
blocked, it won't wake up msgsnd(). Since doqueue's queue is
empty, there is no way to wake up msgsnd().

Here is a snippet from /var/log/messages:
Apr 29 13:38:16 motonao cygserver: call to msgsnd(131072, 0x22CCD8, 1, 0)
Apr 29 13:38:16 motonao cygserver: msgsz=1, msgssz=8, segs_needed=1
Apr 29 13:38:16 motonao cygserver: no more msghdrs
Apr 29 13:38:16 motonao cygserver: we own the msqid_ds
Apr 29 13:38:16 motonao cygserver: goodnight
Apr 29 13:38:24 motonao cygserver: msgget(0x1234, 00)
Apr 29 13:38:24 motonao cygserver: found public key
Apr 29 13:38:24 motonao cygserver: call to msgrcv(196609, 0x22CCD8, 1, 0, 0)
Apr 29 13:38:24 motonao cygserver: found a message, msgsz=1, msg_ts=1

The first line is doqueue's last call to msgsnd(). It finds
there are no free msghdrs and logs the message no more msghdrs,
then logs goodnight and calls msleep(). The call to msgrcv is
drainq removing a message from the overflow queue. This is the
point where we would like to see the good morning message from
msgsnd(), but we don't.

I haven't been able to spot a way to fix this behavior without
significantly changing the block/release mechanism. Has anyone
seen this before? Have I missed something? Is this simply a known
limitation, with IPC_NOWAIT the only way to deal with it?

~

David Williams
Solekai Systems


#include stdio.h
#include stdlib.h
#include unistd.h
#include ctype.h
#include sys/types.h
#include sys/ipc.h
#include sys/msg.h
#include errno.h

#define MSGQ_KEY 0x1234
#define PERM 0660

struct mymsg {
  long mtype;
  char mtext[1];
};

int
main()
{
  int msg_id; /* message Queue id. */
  struct mymsg msg; /* message to send. */
  int nmsg; /* number of msg send. */
  int status; /* status returned by msgsnd(). */

  /*
   * Create Message Queue
   */
  if ( (msg_id = msgget (MSGQ_KEY, PERM | IPC_CREAT)) == -1 ) {
perror (msgget: );
exit (EXIT_FAILURE);
  }
  /*
   * now write message one by one until Queue is full
   */
  msg.mtype = 1;
  msg.mtext[0] = 'A';
  nmsg = 0;
  do {
printf (Receiving #%d\n, nmsg);
status = msgrcv (msg_id, msg, sizeof(msg.mtext), 0, 0);
printf (Received msg #%d\n, nmsg);
nmsg++;
  }
  while ( tolower(getchar()) != 'q' );
  
  
  
  exit (EXIT_SUCCESS);
} 
#include stdio.h
#include stdlib.h
#include unistd.h
#include sys/types.h
#include sys/ipc.h
#include sys/msg.h
#include errno.h

#define MSGQ_KEY 0x1234
#define PERM 0660

struct mymsg {
  long mtype;
  char mtext[1];
};

int
main()
{
  int msg_id; /* message Queue id. */
  struct mymsg msg; /* message to