Re: Installer names not meaningful enough

2016-12-15 Thread cyg Simple
On 12/14/2016 4:58 PM, Erik Soderquist wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 4:50 PM, cyg Simple wrote: >> And if we were purely *nix your argument might hold merit but this setup >> executable provides a Windows OS based install of a Windows based >> application set known as Cygwin. > > If we were pu

Re: Installer names not meaningful enough

2016-12-14 Thread Erik Soderquist
On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 4:50 PM, cyg Simple wrote: > And if we were purely *nix your argument might hold merit but this setup > executable provides a Windows OS based install of a Windows based > application set known as Cygwin. If we were purely *nix, we wouldn't be on Windows in the first place

Re: Installer names not meaningful enough

2016-12-14 Thread cyg Simple
On 12/14/2016 4:17 PM, Erik Soderquist wrote: > On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 6:28 AM, Vlado wrote: >> Erik (and others), >> >> don't worry about Setup version, please. >> >> Use this script: >> https://gist.github.com/Vlado-99/1d59bf05b70481377ff90bb53e13bb2d >> >> - Setup is downloaded only if gpg sign

Re: Installer names not meaningful enough

2016-12-14 Thread Erik Soderquist
On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 6:28 AM, Vlado wrote: > Erik (and others), > > don't worry about Setup version, please. > > Use this script: > https://gist.github.com/Vlado-99/1d59bf05b70481377ff90bb53e13bb2d > > - Setup is downloaded only if gpg signature changes (only very small .sig > file is re-downloa

Re: Installer names not meaningful enough

2016-12-09 Thread Vlado
On 7.12.2016 23:06, Erik Soderquist wrote: On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Brian Inglis wrote: Use wget -N to prevent duplicate downloads when the name, date, and size don't change. That only works if I am downloading to the same location/name as the source is -- Erik Erik (and others), do

Re: Installer names not meaningful enough

2016-12-07 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2016-12-07 15:06, Erik Soderquist wrote: > On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Brian Inglis wrote: > >> Use wget -N to prevent duplicate downloads when the name, date, and >> size don't change. > > That only works if I am downloading to the same location/name as the > source is You can use e.g. w

Re: Installer names not meaningful enough

2016-12-07 Thread Erik Soderquist
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Brian Inglis wrote: > Use wget -N to prevent duplicate downloads when the name, date, > and size don't change. That only works if I am downloading to the same location/name as the source is -- Erik -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ:

Re: Installer names not meaningful enough

2016-12-07 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2016-12-07 14:40, Erik Soderquist wrote: > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Lee Dilkie wrote: >> I'd agree that adding "cygwin" to the setup program would be nice >> but it's certainly not the windows "way", lots of programs use just >> "setup.exe". > > I don't recall "the Windows way" being a g

Re: Installer names not meaningful enough

2016-12-07 Thread Erik Soderquist
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Lee Dilkie wrote: > I'd agree that adding "cygwin" to the setup program would be nice but it's > certainly not the windows "way", lots of programs use just "setup.exe". I don't recall "the Windows way" being a goal of Cygwin. > Versioning can't be added to the file

Re: Installer names not meaningful enough

2016-12-07 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2016-12-07 07:46, Ian Lambert wrote: > On December 7, 2016 4:57:02 AM EST, Duncan Roe wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 10:11:42AM +0100, Gerrit Haase wrote: >>> 2016-12-01 11:51 GMT+01:00 Roberto Ríos Gallardo says: Please give the installers more meaningful names. In particular, make

Re: Installer names not meaningful enough

2016-12-07 Thread Ian Lambert
On December 7, 2016 4:57:02 AM EST, Duncan Roe wrote: >On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 10:11:42AM +0100, Gerrit Haase wrote: >> 2016-12-01 11:51 GMT+01:00 Roberto Ríos Gallardo says: >> > Please give the installers more meaningful names. In particular, >make >> > sure "cygwin" is part of it. "setup-x86_6

Re: Installer names not meaningful enough

2016-12-07 Thread Duncan Roe
On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 10:11:42AM +0100, Gerrit Haase wrote: > 2016-12-01 11:51 GMT+01:00 Roberto Ríos Gallardo says: > > Please give the installers more meaningful names. In particular, make > > sure "cygwin" is part of it. "setup-x86_64.exe" is not very obvious. A > > version number would be nic

Re: Installer names not meaningful enough

2016-12-06 Thread Gerrit Haase
2016-12-01 11:51 GMT+01:00 Roberto Ríos Gallardo says: > Please give the installers more meaningful names. In particular, make > sure "cygwin" is part of it. "setup-x86_64.exe" is not very obvious. A > version number would be nice too. The version is part of setup.ini in the header: # This file w

Re: Installer names not meaningful enough

2016-12-05 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2016-12-05 10:36, Stephen Paul Carrier wrote: > On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 11:37:41AM -0500, Ian Lambert wrote: >> On December 1, 2016 8:54:57 AM EST, cyg Simple wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 12/1/2016 8:25 AM, Vlado wrote: On 1.12.2016 13:51, Eliot Moss wrote: > I think that including the versio

Re: Installer names not meaningful enough

2016-12-05 Thread Eliot Moss
On 12/5/2016 1:25 PM, Andrey Repin wrote: Greetings, Stephen Paul Carrier! I don't mind renaming the file myself, but would really appreciate any way to know from the cygwin.com front page exactly which version of the setup-*.exe is on offer. (The current version of Cygwin DLL is useful, but n

Re: Installer names not meaningful enough

2016-12-05 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, Stephen Paul Carrier! > I don't mind renaming the file myself, but would really appreciate any > way to know from the cygwin.com front page exactly which version of the > setup-*.exe is on offer. (The current version of Cygwin DLL is useful, > but not the same thing.) That may (will!)

Re: Installer names not meaningful enough

2016-12-05 Thread Stephen Paul Carrier
On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 11:37:41AM -0500, Ian Lambert wrote: > On December 1, 2016 8:54:57 AM EST, cyg Simple wrote: > > > > > >On 12/1/2016 8:25 AM, Vlado wrote: > >> On 1.12.2016 13:51, Eliot Moss wrote: > >>> I think that including the version of the setup program could be > >helpful > >>> - I

RE: Installer names not meaningful enough

2016-12-01 Thread Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E]
Lee Dilkie sent the following at Thursday, December 01, 2016 7:19 AM >On 12/1/2016 5:51 AM, Roberto Ríos Gallardo wrote: >> Please give the installers more meaningful names. In particular, make >> sure "cygwin" is part of it. "setup-x86_64.exe" is not very obvious. >> A version number would be ni

Re: Installer names not meaningful enough

2016-12-01 Thread cyg Simple
On 12/1/2016 8:25 AM, Vlado wrote: > On 1.12.2016 13:51, Eliot Moss wrote: >> I think that including the version of the setup program could be helpful >> - I tend >> to add it (renaming the file by hand). However, clearly we've lived >> with things this >> way for a long time ... More than a sc

Re: Installer names not meaningful enough

2016-12-01 Thread Vlado
On 1.12.2016 13:51, Eliot Moss wrote: I think that including the version of the setup program could be helpful - I tend to add it (renaming the file by hand). However, clearly we've lived with things this way for a long time ... I disagree. I have a script to update Cygwin. This script checks

Re: Installer names not meaningful enough

2016-12-01 Thread Eliot Moss
On 12/1/2016 7:18 AM, Lee Dilkie wrote: > > > On 12/1/2016 5:51 AM, Roberto Ríos Gallardo wrote: >> Please give the installers more meaningful names. In particular, make >> sure "cygwin" is part of it. "setup-x86_64.exe" is not very obvious. A >> version number would be nice too. >> > > I'd agree

Re: Installer names not meaningful enough

2016-12-01 Thread Lee Dilkie
On 12/1/2016 5:51 AM, Roberto Ríos Gallardo wrote: Please give the installers more meaningful names. In particular, make sure "cygwin" is part of it. "setup-x86_64.exe" is not very obvious. A version number would be nice too. I'd agree that adding "cygwin" to the setup program would be nice