Re: missing setup command line arguments in the FAQ.
I found this message in my hosted Gmail (Google Apps) account’s Spam folder. I wonder why Gmail thought it was spam? Because it contained the URL of a(n) (Windows) executable file? Dave Korn wrote: G.W. Haywood wrote: BTW, if you run setup.exe --help, it will (depending on OS version) either display the usage instructions to the screen, I assume you mean it will print the usage instructions to stdout or stderr, which are not necessarily connected to a terminal? or dump them to a setup.log file in the directory where you run it. That's not correct (*): laptop:~$ ./setup.exe -bash: ./setup.exe: cannot execute binary file Well strictly it is, since I said what would happen if you ran it, and not what would happen if you _didn't_ run it (for whatever reason that might happen to be)! Because G.W. Haywood is not running it on Windows (nor ReactOS) nor with Wine? Yes, one could just *try it*, if he had a Windows machine on which to try it. Not all Cygwin users are male. Please use “he or she” or, if you agree with singular usage of traditionally plural pronouns, “they” instead of “he”. *koff* Don’t you mean *COFF* (as opposed to ELF)? ;) Prepare to be shocked, amazed, awed and astounded! [da...@ubique ~]$ uname -a bash? Shouldn’t you use *ksh? ;) Linux ubique.localdomain 2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Mon Mar 23 23:37:54 EDT 2009 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux [da...@ubique ~]$ wget http://cygwin.com/setup.exe --2010-01-18 13:20:58-- http://cygwin.com/setup.exe Resolving cygwin.com... 209.132.180.131 Connecting to cygwin.com|209.132.180.131|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 624128 (610K) [application/octet-stream] Is that a (bit)stream of eighth notes in the key of C? ;) Saving to: `setup.exe' 100%[] 624,128 28.6K/s in 16s 2010-01-18 13:21:15 (37.3 KB/s) - `setup.exe' saved [624128/624128] [da...@ubique ~]$ chmod a+x setup.exe [da...@ubique ~]$ wine ./setup.exe --help Are you using Wine with the builtin xor native libraries? Note: the xor operator is to prevent a “Yes” answer since this question requires a string, not a boolean, as an answer. :) fixme:msvcrt:MSVCRT_setlocale :Codepage only locale not implemented Starting cygwin install, version 2.677 io_stream_cygfile: fopen(/etc/setup/setup.rc) failed 2 No such file or directory io_stream_cygfile: fopen(/etc/setup/last-cache) failed 2 No such file or directory io_stream_cygfile: fopen(/etc/setup/last-action) failed 2 No such file or directory io_stream_cygfile: fopen(/etc/setup/net-method) failed 2 No such file or directory io_stream_cygfile: fopen(/etc/setup/net-proxy-host) failed 2 No such file or directory io_stream_cygfile: fopen(/etc/setup/net-proxy-port) failed 2 No such file or directory io_stream_cygfile: fopen(/etc/setup/last-mirror) failed 2 No such file or directory io_stream_cygfile: fopen(/etc/setup/extrakeys) failed 2 No such file or directory io_stream_cygfile: fopen(/etc/setup/chooser_window_settings) failed 2 No such file or directory Current Directory: Z:\home\davek Command Line Options: snip Ending cygwin install AddAccessAllowedAce(, owner) failed: 1337 AddAccessAllowedAce(, group) failed: 1337 AddAccessAllowedAce(, everyone) failed: 1337 AddAccessAllowedAce(, owner) failed: 1337 AddAccessAllowedAce(, group) failed: 1337 AddAccessAllowedAce(, everyone) failed: 1337 Does this mean you are too 1337 to be allowed access? ;) [da...@ubique ~]$ :-) cheers, DaveK Did you know old Apple keyboards, such as the Apple Extended Keyboard II from 1989, have the bumps on D and K instead of F and J? :) I used to have one of those keyboards in my 68k Mac collection. I wish I had kept the keyboard because it would be cool if I could use it on a PC with an ADB→USB converter. I liked that keyboard’s feel: it had mechanical key switches instead of rubber membrane/dome switches. The Caps Lock key stayed down when Caps Lock was on, like Shift Lock on a typewriter (and a C64?). I forgot if it had the Lock LEDs on the keys themselves or in a group elsewhere on the keyboard. -- Sometimes I forget how to do small talk: http://xkcd.com/222/ “If you have to ask why, you’re not a member of the intended audience.” — Bob Zimbinski, http://webpages.mr.net/bobz/ttyquake/ -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: missing setup command line arguments in the FAQ.
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 03:07:10PM -0800, Brolin Empey wrote: [deleted] Please. There was little in this message that was on-topic for the cygwin mailing list. Please use the cygwin-talk mailing list if you really want to pursue this further. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: missing setup command line arguments in the FAQ.
Hello again, On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 we variously wrote: That's not correct (*): Well strictly it is, since I said what would happen if you ran it, and not what would happen if you _didn't_ run it (for whatever reason that might happen to be)! Damn. Aced. 15-love. [da...@ubique ~]$ wine ./setup.exe --help ... Out! This falls into the category of documented but not working. 15 all. ... I guess I should have been clearer in my response. ... no surprise that the web page and the help output coincide. Quite so. I also removed the line about unattended installation. Thank you. -- 73, Ged. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: missing setup command line arguments in the FAQ.
Hello again, On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 several of us wrote: 73, Ged. Now I'm confused. Is that your high-score, your shoe size, or your age? It's a relic from the days of morse code; just over my weight, and half my IQ; and uncomfortably close to my age. BTW, if you run setup.exe --help, it will (depending on OS version) either display the usage instructions to the screen, or dump them to a setup.log file in the directory where you run it. That's not correct (*): laptop:~$ ./setup.exe -bash: ./setup.exe: cannot execute binary file ... cgf was hinting that you already had everything you needed ... One of his premises was false. Actually, I was suggesting that one could just *try it*. ... The supposition was, apparently, that spurious descriptions of nonexistent options must have crept into the documentation so the only real way to figure out what works is to actually run the program. Interesting - the thought that spurious descriptions of nonexistent options could creep into the documentation. Is that something that happens a lot? It never crossed my mind. Although it _did_ cross my mind that the unattended install option didn't work right (e.g. hosed installation at a customer's site just before they do the payroll run, invoices going missing, you know, the kinds of things we worry about). It also crossed my mind that the not-working-right part somehow might not have made it to the docs in place of the it-can't-be-done part... Mr. Faylor, please accept my apologies. I really shouldn't prey on the fallibilities of other people. Heaven knows I have enough of my own. I knew when writing my question that I was probably going to be treated to one of your, er, no-brainers, and my response to that was calculated to make you look foolish: Yes, one could just *try it*, if he had a Windows machine on which to try it. But I don't own any Windows boxes, which is why I was reduced to asking a question on this list. Now wouldn't it have been easier, and wouldn't it have wasted a lot less bandwidth, if you'd politely answered the question instead of trying to hump me? I've been reading the cygwin list for quite a while. I can say for most other lists that it's a pleasant experience, for one or two that it's neither pleasant nor unpleasant, but for only one that it's almost always an unpleasant experience. That one is the cygwin users list. When it's an unpleasant experience I'll usually just unsubscribe, but in the case of the cygwin list the urge to become more familiar with the subject outweighs the unpleasantness, and until now I've simply put up with it. One individual is directly responsible for the unpleasantness. I wasn't joking about the professional help. There's clearly some deep seated need there to dominate people. Unfortunately it won't work with everyone. (*) Sorry again, Dave, but it's not you I'm getting at. :) -- 73, Ged. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: missing setup command line arguments in the FAQ.
G.W. Haywood wrote: BTW, if you run setup.exe --help, it will (depending on OS version) either display the usage instructions to the screen, or dump them to a setup.log file in the directory where you run it. That's not correct (*): laptop:~$ ./setup.exe -bash: ./setup.exe: cannot execute binary file Well strictly it is, since I said what would happen if you ran it, and not what would happen if you _didn't_ run it (for whatever reason that might happen to be)! Yes, one could just *try it*, if he had a Windows machine on which to try it. *koff* Prepare to be shocked, amazed, awed and astounded! [da...@ubique ~]$ uname -a Linux ubique.localdomain 2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Mon Mar 23 23:37:54 EDT 2009 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux [da...@ubique ~]$ wget http://cygwin.com/setup.exe --2010-01-18 13:20:58-- http://cygwin.com/setup.exe Resolving cygwin.com... 209.132.180.131 Connecting to cygwin.com|209.132.180.131|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 624128 (610K) [application/octet-stream] Saving to: `setup.exe' 100%[] 624,128 28.6K/s in 16s 2010-01-18 13:21:15 (37.3 KB/s) - `setup.exe' saved [624128/624128] [da...@ubique ~]$ chmod a+x setup.exe [da...@ubique ~]$ wine ./setup.exe --help fixme:msvcrt:MSVCRT_setlocale :Codepage only locale not implemented Starting cygwin install, version 2.677 io_stream_cygfile: fopen(/etc/setup/setup.rc) failed 2 No such file or directory io_stream_cygfile: fopen(/etc/setup/last-cache) failed 2 No such file or directory io_stream_cygfile: fopen(/etc/setup/last-action) failed 2 No such file or directory io_stream_cygfile: fopen(/etc/setup/net-method) failed 2 No such file or directory io_stream_cygfile: fopen(/etc/setup/net-proxy-host) failed 2 No such file or directory io_stream_cygfile: fopen(/etc/setup/net-proxy-port) failed 2 No such file or directory io_stream_cygfile: fopen(/etc/setup/last-mirror) failed 2 No such file or directory io_stream_cygfile: fopen(/etc/setup/extrakeys) failed 2 No such file or directory io_stream_cygfile: fopen(/etc/setup/chooser_window_settings) failed 2 No such file or directory Current Directory: Z:\home\davek Command Line Options: -D --download Download from internet -L --local-install Install from local directory -s --site Download site -O --only-site Ignore all sites except for -s -R --root Root installation directory -P --packages Specify packages to install -C --categoriesSpecify entire categories to install -p --proxy HTTP/FTP proxy (host:port) -q --quiet-modeUnattended setup mode -h --help print help -l --local-package-dir Local package directory -r --no-replaceonrebootDisable replacing in-use files on next reboot. -X --no-verify Don't verify setup.ini signatures -n --no-shortcuts Disable creation of desktop and start menu shortcuts -N --no-startmenu Disable creation of start menu shortcut -d --no-desktopDisable creation of desktop shortcut -K --pubkeyPath to extra public key file (gpg format) -S --sexpr-pubkey Extra public key in s-expr format -u --untrusted-keysUse untrusted keys from last-extrakeys -U --keep-untrusted-keys Use untrusted keys and retain all -A --disable-buggy-antivirus Disable known or suspected buggy anti virus software packages during execution. Ending cygwin install AddAccessAllowedAce(, owner) failed: 1337 AddAccessAllowedAce(, group) failed: 1337 AddAccessAllowedAce(, everyone) failed: 1337 AddAccessAllowedAce(, owner) failed: 1337 AddAccessAllowedAce(, group) failed: 1337 AddAccessAllowedAce(, everyone) failed: 1337 [da...@ubique ~]$ :-) cheers, DaveK -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: missing setup command line arguments in the FAQ.
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:18:13PM +, G.W. Haywood wrote: I wasn't joking about the professional help. There's clearly some deep seated need there to dominate people. Unfortunately it won't work with everyone. Please question my sanity in the cygwin-talk mailing list. While it may be entertaining, it isn't really on-topic here. cgf -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: missing setup command line arguments in the FAQ.
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 01:23:27PM +, Dave Korn wrote: G.W. Haywood wrote: Yes, one could just *try it*, if he had a Windows machine on which to try it. *koff* Prepare to be shocked, amazed, awed and astounded! This thread was started because Barry Buchbinder noticed a discrepancy between the online documentation and what was available from setup.exe. I guess I should have been clearer in my response. I updated the documentation on the web page directly from setup.exe --help output. So, knowing that, it should be no surprise that the web page and the help output coincide. I also removed the line about unattended installation. cgf -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: missing setup command line arguments in the FAQ.
Hi there, On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 Christopher Faylor wrote: On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 09:17:24AM +, G.W. Haywood wrote: Which is correct? If only there was some way to tell... I think you should seek professional help. -- 73, Ged. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: missing setup command line arguments in the FAQ.
G.W. Haywood wrote: Hi there, On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 Christopher Faylor wrote: On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 09:17:24AM +, G.W. Haywood wrote: Which is correct? If only there was some way to tell... I think you should seek professional help. Nurse! The screens! -- 73, Ged. Now I'm confused. Is that your high-score, your shoe size, or your age? cheers, DaveK -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: missing setup command line arguments in the FAQ.
Dave Korn wrote: G.W. Haywood wrote: Hi there, On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 Christopher Faylor wrote: On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 09:17:24AM +, G.W. Haywood wrote: Which is correct? If only there was some way to tell... I think you should seek professional help. Nurse! The screens! BTW, if you run setup.exe --help, it will (depending on OS version) either display the usage instructions to the screen, or dump them to a setup.log file in the directory where you run it. (As indeed it points out at the start of that FAQ entry you linked to. Which was why cgf was hinting that you already had everything you needed to tell...) cheers, DaveK -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: missing setup command line arguments in the FAQ.
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 08:15:36AM +, G.W. Haywood wrote: On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 Christopher Faylor wrote: On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 09:17:24AM +, G.W. Haywood wrote: Which is correct? If only there was some way to tell... I think you should seek professional help. Wow! Zing! cgf -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: missing setup command line arguments in the FAQ.
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:32:43AM +, Dave Korn wrote: Dave Korn wrote: G.W. Haywood wrote: On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 Christopher Faylor wrote: On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 09:17:24AM +, G.W. Haywood wrote: Which is correct? If only there was some way to tell... I think you should seek professional help. Nurse! The screens! BTW, if you run setup.exe --help, it will (depending on OS version) either display the usage instructions to the screen, or dump them to a setup.log file in the directory where you run it. (As indeed it points out at the start of that FAQ entry you linked to. Which was why cgf was hinting that you already had everything you needed to tell...) Actually, I was suggesting that one could just *try it*. Obviously the documentation must be untrustworthy since it was contradictory. There was one section which provided a command-line option for unattended installation and another which implied that there was no option. The supposition was, apparently, that spurious descriptions of nonexistent options must have crept into the documentation so the only real way to figure out what works is to actually run the program. cgf -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: missing setup command line arguments in the FAQ.
Hi there, http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/setup-net.html#internet-setup says Unfortunately setup.exe does not yet support unattended installs. but http://cygwin.com/faq/faq-nochunks.html#faq.setup.cli seems to imply that it does, via the '-q' switch. Which is correct? -- 73, Ged. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: missing setup command line arguments in the FAQ.
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 09:17:24AM +, G.W. Haywood wrote: Hi there, http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/setup-net.html#internet-setup says Unfortunately setup.exe does not yet support unattended installs. but http://cygwin.com/faq/faq-nochunks.html#faq.setup.cli seems to imply that it does, via the '-q' switch. Which is correct? If only there was some way to tell... cgf -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
missing setup command line arguments in the FAQ.
The command line arguments listed in the FAQ http://cygwin.com/faq/faq-nochunks.html#faq.setup.cli are incomplete. The following are missing. -O --only-site Ignore all sites except for -s -P --packages Specify packages to install -C --categoriesSpecify entire categories to install -p --proxy HTTP/FTP proxy (host:port) -X --no-verify Don't verify setup.ini signatures -K --pubkeyPath to extra public key file (gpg format) -S --sexpr-pubkey Extra public key in s-expr format -u --untrusted-keysUse untrusted keys from last-extrakeys -U --keep-untrusted-keys Use untrusted keys and retain all I apologize for the lack of a patch. - Barry Disclaimer: Statements made herein are not made on behalf of NIAID. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: missing setup command line arguments in the FAQ.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:32:12PM -0500, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote: The command line arguments listed in the FAQ http://cygwin.com/faq/faq-nochunks.html#faq.setup.cli are incomplete. The following are missing. -O --only-site Ignore all sites except for -s -P --packages Specify packages to install -C --categoriesSpecify entire categories to install -p --proxy HTTP/FTP proxy (host:port) -X --no-verify Don't verify setup.ini signatures -K --pubkeyPath to extra public key file (gpg format) -S --sexpr-pubkey Extra public key in s-expr format -u --untrusted-keysUse untrusted keys from last-extrakeys -U --keep-untrusted-keys Use untrusted keys and retain all I apologize for the lack of a patch. I've added these to the FAQ. I haven't published the changes yet though. Thanks. cgf -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: missing setup command line arguments in the FAQ.
On Jan 15 13:47, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:32:12PM -0500, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote: The command line arguments listed in the FAQ http://cygwin.com/faq/faq-nochunks.html#faq.setup.cli are incomplete. The following are missing. -O --only-site Ignore all sites except for -s -P --packages Specify packages to install -C --categoriesSpecify entire categories to install -p --proxy HTTP/FTP proxy (host:port) -X --no-verify Don't verify setup.ini signatures -K --pubkeyPath to extra public key file (gpg format) -S --sexpr-pubkey Extra public key in s-expr format -u --untrusted-keysUse untrusted keys from last-extrakeys -U --keep-untrusted-keys Use untrusted keys and retain all I apologize for the lack of a patch. I've added these to the FAQ. I haven't published the changes yet though. I've just published the latest FAQ changes. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
