On 3/18/2011 2:53 AM, Charles Wilson wrote:
On 3/17/2011 4:36 PM, Charles Wilson wrote:
OK, everybody, time out for a minute. Rather than talk vapor, I'll
develop the patches necessary.
FYI, the first four patches
0001-cygwin-makefile-fixes.patch
0002-cygwin-defines-WIN32-but-isn-t.patch
Charles Wilson schreef, Op 17-3-2011 21:36:
On 3/17/2011 4:08 PM, Eric Blake wrote:
On 03/17/2011 01:56 PM, Erwin Waterlander wrote:
I'm willing to maintain patches for Cygwin, to make the transition
easier. But if there is no chance that the package gets accepted, I
rather save myself the
On 3/17/2011 4:36 PM, Charles Wilson wrote:
OK, everybody, time out for a minute. Rather than talk vapor, I'll
develop the patches necessary.
Fair warning: I've developed this patch set, and made a cygport-based
package...but I have NOT TESTED the apps at all. More later, but it's
way past my
Op 18-3-2011 7:53, Charles Wilson schreef:
On 3/17/2011 4:36 PM, Charles Wilson wrote:
OK, everybody, time out for a minute. Rather than talk vapor, I'll
develop the patches necessary.
Fair warning: I've developed this patch set, and made a cygport-based
package...but I have NOT TESTED the
On 3/18/2011 2:47 AM, Erwin Waterlander wrote:
I will create a branch for cygwin. I think that for temporary and
redundant options it may be better to silently accept them and not
document them.
We are still not communicating.
I do NOT propose that the new options -- whether you call the
On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 17:38 -0400, Charles Wilson wrote:
So: I don't see any insurmountable problems with entirely replacing
cygutils' unix2dos/dos2unix/u2d/d2u programs with these other versions.
(I would hope that cygwin's package would provide a u2d.exe hardlinked
to unix2dos.exe, etc)
+1
On 03/16/2011 10:38 PM, Charles Wilson wrote:
Moved to main cygwin list for more feedback.
Background: currently the following utilities
unix2dos
dos2unix
u2d
d2u
are all provided by the cygutils package. They are, in fact, all
hardlinks/copies of the same
On 03/16/2011 10:38 PM, Charles Wilson wrote:
Moved to main cygwin list for more feedback.
Background: currently the following utilities
unix2dos
dos2unix
u2d
d2u
are all provided by the cygutils package. They are, in fact, all
hardlinks/copies of the same
Dropped cygwin-apps.
On 3/17/2011 5:05 AM, Erwin Waterlander wrote:
On 03/16/2011 10:38 PM, Charles Wilson wrote:
5) cygutils always follows symlinks. This new package does not,
unless --force, according to the man page (which is
unfortunate: the same option means follow
Moved to main cygwin list for more feedback.
Background: currently the following utilities
unix2dos
dos2unix
u2d
d2u
are all provided by the cygutils package. They are, in fact, all
hardlinks/copies of the same 'conv.exe' program, developed specifically
for
On 03/17/2011 02:32 PM, Charles Wilson wrote:
Dropped cygwin-apps.
Erwin, you don't seem to understand the importance of not changing
current behavior, when replacing existing apps. I'm trying to point out
(a) how little your proposed package actually differs from the current
cygutils
On 3/17/2011 10:41 AM, Erwin Waterlander wrote:
I do understand you very well, but I come from the other side. The
dos2unix that I packed and maintain is around on Unix/Linux since 1989.
I assume there are much more Linux users than Cygwin users. So I don't
want to break things on Linux.
You
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:13:51AM -0400, Andrew Schulman wrote:
Moved to main cygwin list for more feedback.
Background: currently the following utilities
unix2dos
dos2unix
u2d
d2u
are all provided by the cygutils package. They are, in fact, all
hardlinks/copies of
Op 17-3-2011 17:57, Charles Wilson schreef:
Final point: I realize nobody wants to maintain a non-upstreamable
forked version of software. Everybody wants to be able to build
software on cygwin out of the box.
So...if the upstream people really really hate --follow/--no-follow and
won't accept
On 03/17/2011 03:56 PM, Erwin Waterlander wrote:
Op 17-3-2011 17:57, Charles Wilson schreef:
Final point: I realize nobody wants to maintain a non-upstreamable
forked version of software. Everybody wants to be able to build
software on cygwin out of the box.
So...if the upstream people really
On 03/17/2011 01:56 PM, Erwin Waterlander wrote:
So let's rephrase: What is the upstream objection to providing a few
new options, with no change in upstream's current default behavior:
I'm willing to maintain patches for Cygwin, to make the transition
easier. But if there is no chance
On 3/17/2011 4:08 PM, Eric Blake wrote:
On 03/17/2011 01:56 PM, Erwin Waterlander wrote:
I'm willing to maintain patches for Cygwin, to make the transition
easier. But if there is no chance that the package gets accepted, I
rather save myself the trouble.
There's two sets of patches being
On 03/15/2011 11:17 PM, Eric Blake wrote:
dos2unix is already part of cygwin. 'cygcheck -p dos2unix' shows that
it is part of cygutils, so I see no reason to repackage it as an
alternative build.
Hi,
dos2unix on cygwin is different, it is 'conv'. The implementation I
propose is used on
On 3/16/2011 3:59 AM, Erwin Waterlander wrote:
dos2unix on cygwin is different, it is 'conv'. The implementation I
propose is used on major Linux distributions. You could keep 'conv' on
cygwin. I propose to obsolete the links dos2unix and unix2dos to conv,
and replace them with the dos2unix
On 03/16/2011 02:52 PM, Charles Wilson wrote:
Then you're going to have to explain why the other implementation is
better (not just but that's the one the linux people use: cygwin is
Hi Chuck,
I think it's a good argument. Most cygwin programs are ported from
Unix/Linux. Scripts that come
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 03:52:36PM +0100, Erwin Waterlander wrote:
On 03/16/2011 02:52 PM, Charles Wilson wrote:
Then you're going to have to explain why the other implementation is
better (not just but that's the one the linux people use: cygwin is
Hi Chuck,
I think it's a good argument.
On 03/16/2011 04:49 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote:
This is, again, something that you can't assume. We don't know how
people use these tools. So, if we do decide to make the switch, you
will have to be dedicated to being active in responding to problem
reports on the mailing list. And, if
Erwin Waterlander wrote:
On 03/16/2011 04:49 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote:
This is, again, something that you can't assume. We don't know how
people use these tools. So, if we do decide to make the switch, you
will have to be dedicated to being active in responding to problem
reports on the
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 08:29:51PM +0100, Christian Franke wrote:
Erwin Waterlander wrote:
On 03/16/2011 04:49 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote:
This is, again, something that you can't assume. We don't know how
people use these tools. So, if we do decide to make the switch, you
will have to be
On 3/16/2011 3:32 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 08:29:51PM +0100, Christian Franke wrote:
An alternative would be to modify cygutils+dos2unix packages such that
the user can select the flavor of dos2unix/unix2dos commands with
/usr/sbin/alternatives. If cygutils is
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 04:05:17PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote:
On 3/16/2011 3:32 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 08:29:51PM +0100, Christian Franke wrote:
An alternative would be to modify cygutils+dos2unix packages such that
the user can select the flavor of
Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 04:05:17PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote:
On 3/16/2011 3:32 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 08:29:51PM +0100, Christian Franke wrote:
An alternative would be to modify cygutils+dos2unix packages such that
Moved to main cygwin list for more feedback.
Background: currently the following utilities
unix2dos
dos2unix
u2d
d2u
are all provided by the cygutils package. They are, in fact, all
hardlinks/copies of the same 'conv.exe' program, developed specifically
for cygwin.
Moved to main cygwin list for more feedback.
Background: currently the following utilities
unix2dos
dos2unix
u2d
d2u
are all provided by the cygutils package. They are, in fact, all
hardlinks/copies of the same 'conv.exe' program, developed specifically
for cygwin.
Hi,
I propose package 'dos2unix' for cygwin. Dos2unix is part of Fedora,
Suse, Debian, Ubuntu, Gentoo, Slackware, and Arch Linux. The homepage is
http://www.xs4all.nl/~waterlan/dos2unix.html
I have prepared packages which can be downloaded from
On 03/15/2011 04:05 PM, Erwin Waterlander wrote:
Hi,
I propose package 'dos2unix' for cygwin. Dos2unix is part of Fedora,
Suse, Debian, Ubuntu, Gentoo, Slackware, and Arch Linux. The homepage is
http://www.xs4all.nl/~waterlan/dos2unix.html
dos2unix is already part of cygwin. 'cygcheck -p
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