Re: My delayed complaint about spam on this list

2018-06-06 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, Steven Penny! > On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 20:18:59, Frank Farance wrote: >> No, I'm not suggesting that one must be subscribed, I'm pointing out that if >> one wants to have a back and forth discussion (in a practical sense), some >> kinda registration/subscription system is necessary. > No,

Re: My delayed complaint about spam on this list

2018-06-06 Thread Eric Blake
On 06/05/2018 07:18 PM, Frank Farance wrote: Someone suggested a moderator (or multiple moderators) that would approve messages from outsiders.  That sounds like the easiest approach because it anyone can write to the list and there would be just a short delay for those people who aren't

Re: My delayed complaint about spam on this list

2018-06-05 Thread Steven Penny
On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 20:18:59, Frank Farance wrote: No, I'm not suggesting that one must be subscribed, I'm pointing out that if one wants to have a back and forth discussion (in a practical sense), some kinda registration/subscription system is necessary. No, its not? did not you read my post?

Re: My delayed complaint about spam on this list

2018-06-05 Thread Frank Farance
On 2018-06-05 20:04, Steven Penny wrote: [...] If OP is suggesting people can only reply if they are subscribed, then I am not a fan of that. No, I'm not suggesting that one must be subscribed, I'm pointing out that if one wants to have a back and forth discussion (in a practical sense),

Re: My delayed complaint about spam on this list

2018-06-05 Thread Steven Penny
On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 13:38:14, Erik Soderquist wrote: I have seen many people (and have done this myself before I subscribed) participate in the discussion of their specific topic on the list without subscribing by watching the public archive of the list for updates to their topics and crafting

Re: My delayed complaint about spam on this list

2018-06-05 Thread Erik Soderquist
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 4:13 PM, Frank Farance wrote: > Third, I believe a registration mechanism (just your E-mail address) is > necessary for discussion: How would you be getting follow-up messages if > you're not on the list? And E-mail clients may prefer Reply-To-List rather > than Reply-All,

Re: My delayed complaint about spam on this list

2018-06-05 Thread cyg Simple
On 6/4/2018 5:54 PM, Duncan Roe wrote: > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 04:26:57PM -0400, Jeffrey Altman wrote: >> >> My mail servers regularly categorize cygwin at cygwin.com mail as spam. >> >> And then there is all of the mail that simply gets rejected because of >> DMARC policies applied by the

Re: My delayed complaint about spam on this list

2018-06-04 Thread Duncan Roe
On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 04:26:57PM -0400, Jeffrey Altman wrote: > > My mail servers regularly categorize cygwin at cygwin.com mail as spam. > > And then there is all of the mail that simply gets rejected because of > DMARC policies applied by the sender's domain. > > > There are other

Re: My delayed complaint about spam on this list

2018-06-04 Thread Jeffrey Altman
On 6/4/2018 4:13 PM, Frank Farance wrote: > Second, as a mailing list admin myself, at some time we're going to have > to deal with spam as some of the members E-mail systems will start > tagging normal cygwin stuff as spam, which is the kind of stuff members > don't have control over in

Re: My delayed complaint about spam on this list

2018-06-04 Thread Vince Rice
> On Jun 4, 2018, at 2:30 PM, Frank Farance wrote: > > I've seen a bunch of spam, and it's continued for a while (beyond my > expectation that it would have already ended). Fortunately, no one's here to meet your expectations. If you have issues with the lists, you should take to the right

Re: My delayed complaint about spam on this list

2018-06-04 Thread Frank Farance
On 2018-06-04 15:47, James Darnley wrote: It isn't very nice to put "please email cygwin@cygwin.com" in error and warning messages then deny people the opportunity to send the email. "Please register first" is annoying as shit. I have certainly not reported bugs to lists that make me do

Re: My delayed complaint about spam on this list

2018-06-04 Thread James Darnley
On 2018-06-04 21:30, Frank Farance wrote: > Hi, I enjoy reading the cygwin E-mails, one of the few E-mail lists I > regularly follow. And I've administered multiple E-mail lists over > two-plus decades. > > I've seen a bunch of spam, and it's continued for a while (beyond my > expectation that