RE: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-31 Thread Vince Hoffman
I'll try it as soon as i get home, it doesnt crash on my work machine. -Original Message- From: Max Bowsher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 March 2003 21:26 To: Robert Collins; Vince Hoffman Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-31 Thread Rolf Campbell
Max Bowsher wrote: Robert Collins wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 22:10, Vince Hoffman wrote: Ok, well this is 'not good' :}. At what point does it crash? At start before any window appears. Shuttting down cygwin services made no difference. let me know if there is any more i can do to help the

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-31 Thread Max Bowsher
Rolf Campbell wrote: Max Bowsher wrote: Robert Collins wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 22:10, Vince Hoffman wrote: Ok, well this is 'not good' :}. At what point does it crash? At start before any window appears. Shuttting down cygwin services made no difference. let me know if there is

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-31 Thread Rolf Campbell
Max Bowsher wrote: Rolf Campbell wrote: Max Bowsher wrote: Robert Collins wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 22:10, Vince Hoffman wrote: Ok, well this is 'not good' :}. At what point does it crash? At start before any window appears. Shuttting down cygwin services made no difference. let me know if

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-31 Thread Max Bowsher
Rolf Campbell wrote: Max Bowsher wrote: Rolf Campbell wrote: Max Bowsher wrote: Robert Collins wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 22:10, Vince Hoffman wrote: Ok, well this is 'not good' :}. At what point does it crash? At start before any window appears. Shuttting down cygwin services made

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-31 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2003-04-01 at 08:20, Max Bowsher wrote: This bug gets more and more elusive. Plus, I had to reinstall Windows on my desktop, and I can no-longer reproduce the crash. Rolf, is Service Pack 1 installed on your home machine? my hunch is that at O2 there is something being optimised

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-29 Thread Rolf Campbell
Robert Collins wrote: Regarding XFree auto-installation... Cygwin Package Information ... libPropList 0.10.1-3 This requires XFree86-base. So setup is doing the right thing. Rob Well, unistalling that makes this setup work the same as the old setup. So, does this setup do

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-29 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 03:36, Rolf Campbell wrote: Well, unistalling that makes this setup work the same as the old setup. So, does this setup do dependancy analysis different than the old one? I would guess that this new one tries to install anything that is depended on and not already

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-29 Thread Max Bowsher
Robert Collins wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 22:10, Vince Hoffman wrote: Ok, well this is 'not good' :}. At what point does it crash? At start before any window appears. Shuttting down cygwin services made no difference. let me know if there is any more i can do to help the problem. Hmm,

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-28 Thread amores nolikeyjunk
I'll bump this once then let it drop assuming no one is interested. (This is in regards to the two test installs I did, and my considering trying other tests.) _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8.

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-28 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 14:16, amores nolikeyjunk wrote: I'll bump this once then let it drop assuming no one is interested. (This is in regards to the two test installs I did, and my considering trying other tests.) Positive feedback is always good it gives a feeling for the failure rate -

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-28 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 22:10, Vince Hoffman wrote: Ok, well this is 'not good' :}. At what point does it crash? At start before any window appears. Shuttting down cygwin services made no difference. let me know if there is any more i can do to help the problem. Hmm, I don't think

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-28 Thread Robert Collins
Regarding XFree auto-installation... __ Cygwin Package Information ... libPropList 0.10.1-3 This requires XFree86-base. So setup is doing the right thing. Rob -- GPG key available at:

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-28 Thread amores nolikeyjunk
$$$ 2003-03-29 virgin Win98 Install From Internet Just Me Unix C:\cygtest ftp://mirrors.rcn.net default package set Seems to work ok, but when I reboot run setup again, it doesn't remember the pkg directory. I guess I don't know if it ever did, as this is the first time I'm

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-28 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 15:13, amores nolikeyjunk wrote: but when I reboot run setup again, it doesn't remember the pkg directory. I guess I don't know if it ever did, as this is the first time I'm not running the setup.exe out of the pkg directory. The first time through, there is a known

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-28 Thread amores nolikeyjunk
$$$ 2003-03-29 Follow-on to existing (virgin Win98, Install From Internet, Just Me, Unix C:\cygtest, ftp://mirrors.rcn.net, default package set) Continuing this win98 system, I ran setup and added pkgs autoconf, automake, binutils, bison, flex, gcc, gettext, gettext-devel,

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-28 Thread amores nolikeyjunk
Robert Collins, If you happen to be quite interested in this apparent problem I've just found (altho I certainly don't know if it is setup related or not) at this moment, and wish to discuss this via Instant Messenger (eg, to give me some directions on what retests you'd like to me try), send me

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-28 Thread Elfyn McBratney
Now something is wrong. When I type in the cygwin terminal window, it doesn't reflect what I type until I switch to another app and then back. I type ff, there is no indication that it heard me, I switch to an explorer window and back, and the ff comes out (as I switch back). I press

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-28 Thread amores nolikeyjunk
I'd say there is something wrong with your system/installation of Windows... Could be. But, it is a clean win98 install, then I installed vmtools, then I've run cygwin setup (the experimental one), three times, and only done really minor things in the cygwin terminal (mkdir, touch, ls -l,

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-28 Thread amores nolikeyjunk
$$$ 2003-03-29 Decided to think like a programmer, and repeat the test I did before that ended at locking up Windows apparently. (A good first question is usually, is it repeatable.) virgin Win98 Install From Internet Just Me Unix C:\cygtest ftp://mirrors.rcn.net default

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-28 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 15:39, amores nolikeyjunk wrote: Now something is wrong. The symptoms you describe aren't (AFAIK) something that a setup bug could cause. I'd suggest a VMWare or windows install problem is your most likely culprit. Cheers, Rob -- GPG key available at:

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-28 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 15:41, amores nolikeyjunk wrote: Robert Collins, If you happen to be quite interested in this apparent problem I've just found (altho I certainly don't know if it is setup related or not) at this moment, and wish to discuss this via Instant Messenger (eg, to give me

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-28 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 15:50, amores nolikeyjunk wrote: VM as in running Windows on top of say Mac OS/Linux? Actually on top of Win2000. (Using vmware. It is the only way I have time to test stuff on virgin machines.) I really appreciate the testing effort you are putting in - it's great.

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-28 Thread Randall R Schulz
Hi, You wrote vmtools and vmware. Is that http://www.vmguys.com/vmtools/ or http://www.vmware.com/? Both? Something else? It's really just idle curiosity. I had never heard of vmtools before, so I had to go look it up (it's Java XML stuff) and so it doesn't sound related, but I just thought

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-28 Thread Robert Collins
VMWare comes with tools to allow the client OS (the one inside the VM) to interface with the host OS - i.e. mouse release so that the mouse can go from inside the VM to outside easily. These tools are called. vmtools. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://users.bigpond.net.au/robertc/keys.txt.

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-28 Thread amores nolikeyjunk
You wrote vmtools and vmware. Is that http://www.vmguys.com/vmtools/ or http://www.vmware.com/? Both? Something else? www.vmware.com On unrelated (but original) note: Now I'm seeing the MS-DOS window stop responding part-way thru the setup download of packages, and the system tends to

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-28 Thread Randall R Schulz
Robert, Ah, right. I should have remembered that. I have VMware on this system (for a couple of months, now) and of course I installed the VMtools. I use VMware to run Linux under Windows since I now have a client who has some Java software that has to runs and build on both. Thanks for

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-27 Thread Max Bowsher
Rolf Campbell wrote: Robert Collins wrote: A new release of setup.exe is imminent. There are many changes, and to reduce problems, feedback from YOU, is needed. The new version is available from http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-2.340.2.3.exe (binary) and

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-27 Thread Vince Hoffman
Ok, well this is 'not good' :}. At what point does it crash? At start before any window appears. Shuttting down cygwin services made no difference. let me know if there is any more i can do to help the problem. Assuming it crashes straight after download screen - can you do a few things

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-26 Thread Joe Buehler
Robert Collins wrote: USER-VISIBLE CHANGES: Did you forget resizable dialogs or is that not done yet? -- Joe Buehler -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ:

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-26 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Joe Buehler wrote: Robert Collins wrote: USER-VISIBLE CHANGES: Did you forget resizable dialogs or is that not done yet? You mean that's supposed to be *user-visible*? :-o Just kidding... It's not in yet. Igor --

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-26 Thread Vince Hoffman
Havent a clean system to try a full install. however on running it to upgrade/add packages the first run crashed . on the second run all was fine and componants were added/updated perfectly. I tried running a few more times to reproduce the crash and on average about one in 5 times (very rough

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-26 Thread Rolf Campbell
Robert Collins wrote: A new release of setup.exe is imminent. There are many changes, and to reduce problems, feedback from YOU, is needed. The new version is available from http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-2.340.2.3.exe (binary) and

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-26 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 00:17, Joe Buehler wrote: Robert Collins wrote: USER-VISIBLE CHANGES: Did you forget resizable dialogs No. or is that not done yet? Bingo! Rob -- GPG key available at: http://users.bigpond.net.au/robertc/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-26 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 02:24, Vince Hoffman wrote: Havent a clean system to try a full install. however on running it to upgrade/add packages the first run crashed . on the second run all was fine and componants were added/updated perfectly. I tried running a few more times to reproduce the

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-26 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 03:15, Rolf Campbell wrote: Robert Collins wrote: A new release of setup.exe is imminent. There are many changes, and to reduce problems, feedback from YOU, is needed. The new version is available from http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-2.340.2.3.exe

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-26 Thread Max Bowsher
Robert Collins wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 02:24, Vince Hoffman wrote: Havent a clean system to try a full install. however on running it to upgrade/add packages the first run crashed . on the second run all was fine and componants were added/updated perfectly. I tried running a few more

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-26 Thread Rolf Campbell
Robert Collins wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 03:15, Rolf Campbell wrote: Robert Collins wrote: A new release of setup.exe is imminent. There are many changes, and to reduce problems, feedback from YOU, is needed. The new version is available from

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-26 Thread Max Bowsher
Robert Collins wrote: Max Bowsher wrote: Robert Collins wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 02:24, Vince Hoffman wrote: Havent a clean system to try a full install. however on running it to upgrade/add packages the first run crashed . on the second run all was fine and componants were

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-26 Thread amores nolikeyjunk
Summary: Successful install on virgin 98 machine, I think, but I'm not sure if chmod is working correctly (due to my ignorance of how it should work on FAT-32). virgin Win98 Install From Internet All Users Unix C:\cygwin ftp://mirrors.rcn.net default package set It seems to work; I'm not actually

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-26 Thread amores nolikeyjunk
virgin XP Install From Internet All Users Unix C:\cygwin ftp://mirrors.rcn.net default package set NTFS partition this time. All chmods but the last one seem the same as under UNIX. $ cd /tmp $ mkdir j $ cd j $ touch p $ ls -l -rw-r--r-- $ chmod a+x p $ ls -l -rwxr-xr-x $ chmod a-r p $ ls -l

Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)

2003-03-26 Thread Rolf Campbell
Robert Collins wrote: A new release of setup.exe is imminent. There are many changes, and to reduce problems, feedback from YOU, is needed. The new version is available from http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-2.340.2.3.exe (binary) and