Re: Why not a news server?

2002-03-02 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sat, Mar 02, 2002 at 06:37:46PM -0800, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >Charles Wilson wrote: >>Geez, I can't believe I'm still writing about something *I* don't care >>about... > >Neither can we! :-) Wow. I've posted, three suggestions to do this with nary a peep. Then, suddenly, this tempest. Appar

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-03-02 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Charles Wilson wrote: > Geez, I can't believe I'm still writing about something *I* don't care > about... Neither can we! :-) -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-03-02 Thread Charles Wilson
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Charles Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>Supposedly, Lars set this nntp thing up as a service to the cygwin >>community. >> > > Er, no. > > Read http://gmane.org/>. Okay, so gmane is a more comprehensive effort than a specific project to support an

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-03-02 Thread Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
Charles Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Supposedly, Lars set this nntp thing up as a service to the cygwin > community. Er, no. Read http://gmane.org/>. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen -- Unsubscribe info: h

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-03-02 Thread Charles Wilson
Andrew, Lars said "I don't follow this mailing list in particular, so if someone wants to announce something **for this mailing list**, I'm probably not the person to do that." [emphasis added] Fair enough. BUT, posting an announcemnt on the WEBPAGE is NOT "for this mailing list". I

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-03-02 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Charles Wilson wrote: > Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > >> Charles Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> >>> He asked that the person who established this service please post an >>> announcement on the web page...but he's "still waiting". Several >>> weeks later. >>> >> >> Well, er, I guess

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-03-02 Thread Charles Wilson
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Charles Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>He asked that the person who established this service please post an >>announcement on the web page...but he's "still waiting". Several >>weeks later. >> > > Well, er, I guess I'm the one who established this se

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-03-02 Thread Daniel Adams
I went ahead and posted it to the cygwin.com thing. -- Sincerely, Daniel Adams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dana.ucc.nau.edu/~dpa3 1 Peter 4:10 (NIV)- Each one should use whatever gift he has received to serve others, faithfully administering God's grace in its various forms. "Lars Magne Ingeb

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-03-02 Thread Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
Charles Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > He asked that the person who established this service please post an > announcement on the web page...but he's "still waiting". Several > weeks later. Well, er, I guess I'm the one who established this service, and you can read more about it on http:

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-03-02 Thread Daniel Adams
I am not the person who made the request and had the server set up. I am simply just an advocate of the whold idea of a news server. Would the person who did set it up, please step forward and post to the cygwin.com website. -- Sincerely, Daniel Adams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dana.ucc.nau.

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-03-02 Thread Charles Wilson
"Still waiting" --- for a news item to be posted on the main cygwin.org homepage announcing the nntp group availability. Sure, posting that "the server has been setup for several weeks now" in the mailing list is good and all -- but... go here: http://www.cygwin.com/post-article.html and post

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-03-02 Thread Randall R Schulz
Chris, I was about to ask this: -==- Not that I have anything to announce, but just how does one "post a news item" on the Cygwin Web site? I went to the home page and the news page (), but saw nothing that permits one to submit a new news item. -==- But finally

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-03-02 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sat, Mar 02, 2002 at 03:48:29PM -0700, Daniel Adams wrote: >Uhh, news://quimby.gnus.org/gmane.os.cygwin.; > >This server has been setup for several weeks now. Uh. Try reading my message again. cgf >-- >Sincerely, >Daniel Adams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://dana.ucc.nau.edu/~dpa3 > > 1 Pe

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-03-02 Thread Daniel Adams
Uhh, news://quimby.gnus.org/gmane.os.cygwin.; This server has been setup for several weeks now. -- Sincerely, Daniel Adams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dana.ucc.nau.edu/~dpa3 1 Peter 4:10 (NIV)- Each one should use whatever gift he has received to serve others, faithfully administering God's g

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-03-02 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 06:29:45PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 08:57:24PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >>Please go to http://cygwin.com/ and post a news item. > >Hmm. I guess the excitement about this doesn't extend to actually doing >this very minor thing. Stil

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 08:57:24PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >Please go to http://cygwin.com/ and post a news item. Hmm. I guess the excitement about this doesn't extend to actually doing this very minor thing. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug r

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-18 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Randall R Schulz wrote: > Hi, > > Well, this news server certainly does not address the issue of archive > searching, as it goes back only a few days (as of this writing, the > earliest posting still there is from Feb. 06, 2002). For me it's just perfect! YMMV. -- Unsubscribe info:

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-18 Thread Randall R Schulz
Hi, Well, this news server certainly does not address the issue of archive searching, as it goes back only a few days (as of this writing, the earliest posting still there is from Feb. 06, 2002). My own local archive of [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes back to Jan 01, 2001. Using Eudora I can do multi-

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-18 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Per Abrahamsen wrote: > Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>If you feel this strongly about a news server then I see no reason why >>you shouldn't set one up. I'll be happy to advertise the service on >>the cygwin web site. >> > > There is a nntp gateway of this group at >

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-17 Thread Christopher Faylor
Please go to http://cygwin.com/ and post a news item. cgf On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 04:54:02PM -0700, Daniel Adams wrote: >I will say my 2c once again, I am rather glad to have this setup because I >believe it will allow for a lot more than simply an e-mail group. Often >times I am thinking about

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-17 Thread Daniel Adams
I will say my 2c once again, I am rather glad to have this setup because I believe it will allow for a lot more than simply an e-mail group. Often times I am thinking about something about a month or two after it has been discussed, and frankly an nntp server group is easier to search than some ma

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-17 Thread Per Abrahamsen
Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you feel this strongly about a news server then I see no reason why > you shouldn't set one up. I'll be happy to advertise the service on > the cygwin web site. There is a nntp gateway of this group at < nntp://quimby.gnus.org/gmane.os

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-05 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 04:19:15PM -0800, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >Christopher Faylor wrote: >>On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:30:25PM -0800, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >>>News servers were created exactly to address this issue. It is the >>>medium developed exactly for what we are trying to do here. Am I s

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-05 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 06:36:23PM -0600, James Potts (Arek) wrote: >>I'd suggest that you gateway the cygwin mailing list into news, and >>vice versa. That would probably be optimum. > >Great idea, but it has to be done right - you can't just forward a raw >news message to the mailing list. Som

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-05 Thread James Potts \(Arek\)
> I'd suggest that you gateway the cygwin mailing list into news, and > vice versa. That would probably be optimum. Great idea, but it has to be done right - you can't just forward a raw news message to the mailing list. Some news/e-mail clients (Outlook Express, for example) will try to open i

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-05 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Christopher Faylor wrote: >On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:30:25PM -0800, Andrew DeFaria wrote: > >>News servers were created exactly to address this issue. It is the >>medium developed exactly for what we are trying to do here. Am I so >>wrong to ask why we are not using the medium?!?. >> >As a wil

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-05 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:30:25PM -0800, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >News servers were created exactly to address this issue. It is the >medium developed exactly for what we are trying to do here. Am I so >wrong to ask why we are not using the medium?!?. As a wild guess, I suppose because a newsgro

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-05 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
At 06:30 PM 2/5/2002, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >Because I do not feel like having to pour though a ton of messages wasting space on >my systems to weed out the junk and have to manage cleaning up all the stuff I'm not >interested it. News servers were created exactly to address this issue. It is th

Why not a news server?

2002-02-05 Thread Andrew DeFaria
You ask why not? Let me answer that with a question. How many people do you know that have a news reader but don't have an email client? Chances are that it's slim to none while on the other hand you'll have a great number of people that don't have a news reader but do have ema

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Charles Wilson
Greg Mosier wrote: >>"Reply-To" munging has also been discussed on this list previously. >>Please familiarize yourself with the arguments that have already been >>hashed out on this list in the past before continuing this line of >>discussion. >> >>Also, see '"Reply To" Munging Considered Harmfu

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Greg Mosier
From: "Charles Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Why not a news server? > "Reply-To" munging has also been discussed on this list previously. > Please familiarize yourself with the arguments that have already been > hashed out on this list in the

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Greg Mosier
From: "Robert Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Why not a news server? > > to go back to the list. The most frustrating thing about this is that > this > > is a setting in the listserv software, whether it be elzm, mailman, > > majordomo, or lists

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Charles Wilson
he > resolution indeed is. Now, if John's reply never makes it to the list then > you lose that possibility. Then, when someone has something to say to > someone that is off topic they can switch the email addresses quite easily. > > Cheers, > Greg Mosier > > From: &qu

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Robert Collins
=== - Original Message - From: "Greg Mosier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 8:31 AM Subject: Re: Why not a news server? > Yeah, I've too noticed this inconvience of having to use reply all to get it >

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Greg Mosier
e has something to say to someone that is off topic they can switch the email addresses quite easily. Cheers, Greg Mosier From: "Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Why not a news server? > >And again, currently this is not very convenient. For exa

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 09:59:36AM -0800, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >Why not simply set up a news server instead of this mail list. Because we're mean. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: ht

RE: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
alf >Of Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) >Sent: Friday, 1 February 2002 6 25 >To: Andrew DeFaria; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Why not a news server? > >At 12:59 PM 2/1/2002, Andrew DeFaria wrote: > >Why not simply set up a news server instead of this mail list. I find >t

Fw: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Greg Mosier
> From: "Andrew DeFaria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Why not a news server? > > Why not simply set up a news server instead of this mail list. I find > the mail list deficient in several areas. First and foremost it's noisy > causing me to wade through a

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
At 03:49 PM 2/1/2002, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote: > >>At 02:06 PM 2/1/2002, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >> >>>Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote: >>> OK, there are differences now compared to when this topic was last discussed so >maybe it warrants "discussion". H

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote: > At 02:06 PM 2/1/2002, Andrew DeFaria wrote: > >> Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote: >> >>> OK, there are differences now compared to when this topic was last >>> discussed so maybe it warrants "discussion". However, I'd highly >>> recommend that anyone

RE: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Stephano Mariani
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) Sent: Friday, 1 February 2002 6 25 To: Andrew DeFaria; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Why not a news server? At 12:59 PM 2/1/2002, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >Why not simply set up a n

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Peter Buckley
h one should use whatever gift he has received to > serve others, faithfully administering God's grace in its various forms. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf > Of Andrew DeFaria > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:00 AM &g

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
At 12:59 PM 2/1/2002, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >Why not simply set up a news server instead of this mail list. I find the mail list >deficient in several areas. First and foremost it's noisy causing me to wade through >all this email for topics I'm interested in. Secondly there's no easy or conveni

RE: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Daniel Adams
rve others, faithfully administering God's grace in its various forms. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrew DeFaria Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Why not a news server? Why not simply set u

Fw: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread hongxun lee
A great idea.. - Original Message - From: "Andrew DeFaria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 12:59 PM Subject: Why not a news server? > Why not simply set up a news server instead of this mail list. I find > the ma

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Randall R Schulz
Andrew, A newsgroup won't change the signal-to-noise ratio nor alleviate effort on your part in sorting it all out. Don't get the digest and you'll have solved all the digest-related problems. Avail yourself of the abilities of mail clients to sort incoming message into different mailbox file

Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Why not simply set up a news server instead of this mail list. I find the mail list deficient in several areas. First and foremost it's noisy causing me to wade through all this email for topics I'm interested in. Secondly there's no easy or convenient way to response to individual issues (I g