Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-30 Thread Jim Kleckner
Max Bowsher wrote: William A. Hoffman wrote: [snip] 2. Failing that, it would be nice if the setup program had a button that set all the values to Keep. The problem is that if I want a new package X, I have to click 20 other packages to Keep, or risk an update of everything. There should be

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-30 Thread Randall R Schulz
Jim, At 19:15 2003-01-30, Jim Kleckner wrote: Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote: At 09:54 PM 1/30/2003, Jim Kleckner wrote: [snip ] Thanks! While you have the code in hand, would it be possible to allow the setup window to be resized? I'm constantly wanting to see more lines at once...

RE: cygwin Release process

2003-01-28 Thread Scott Prive
-Original Message- From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 6:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: cygwin Release process On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 04:54:25PM -0500, Scott Prive wrote: William, The ntsec problem by all accounts

RE: cygwin Release process

2003-01-28 Thread Randall R Schulz
Scott, At 08:02 2003-01-28, Scott Prive wrote: ... I don't disagree that the change was announced. In hindsight, I see it was. Arthur Dent got an announcement before his home was demolished for a bypass (apologies to those who don't get the HHGTTG reference). :-) Isn't hitchhiker one word?

Re: cygwin Release process

2003-01-28 Thread Mark Himsley
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 08:27:26 -0800 Randall R Schulz wrote: Arthur Dent got an announcement before his home was demolished for a bypass (apologies to those who don't get the HHGTTG reference). :-) Isn't hitchhiker one word? (Even Eudora's meager dictionary thinks so.) Not in this context.

Re: cygwin Release process

2003-01-28 Thread Randall R Schulz
Mark, At 09:38 2003-01-28, Mark Himsley wrote: On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 08:27:26 -0800 Randall R Schulz wrote: Arthur Dent got an announcement before his home was demolished for a bypass (apologies to those who don't get the HHGTTG reference). :-) Isn't hitchhiker one word? (Even Eudora's meager

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread William A. Hoffman
What I am suggesting is taking the same approach as Debian. Each package in Debian is in one of these states: Stable, Testing, or Unstable. Stable packages - should work. Testing packages - working on becoming the next stable version Unstable packages - all other packages, might be working

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread Max Bowsher
William A. Hoffman wrote: What I am suggesting is taking the same approach as Debian. Each package in Debian is in one of these states: Stable, Testing, or Unstable. Stable packages - should work. We have this. Its called [curr] Testing packages - working on becoming the next stable

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Re: Cygwin Release process What I am suggesting is taking the same approach as Debian. Each package in Debian is in one of these states: Stable, Testing, or Unstable. Stable packages - should work. Testing packages - working on becoming the next stable version Unstable packages - all other

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread William A. Hoffman
The new View:Partial does help. I can now easily see what will get updated. It would be nice if there was a button, that set all of them to keep. Often times, I want to update only a single package, and that makes it easier. So, from the feedback I am getting, it really boils down to a not

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
Bill, The Keep button is in the setup CVS already. Try a setup snapshot. ;-) There does seem to be a tendency that most of the problems are introduced when a major new version of a package (*-1) is released. The *-[2-9] versions are usually bugfixes applied specifically to the Cygwin port of

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread Max Bowsher
Igor Pechtchanski wrote: The Keep button is in the setup CVS already. Try a setup snapshot. These aren't auto-generated. The latest one doesn't have this in, yet. Max. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread Max Bowsher
William A. Hoffman wrote: So, from the feedback I am getting, it really boils down to a not enough people to maintain the feature issue. I don't think that people don't think that a stable release of cygwin would be a bad thing, it is just that there is no one to maintain it. The least

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread William A. Hoffman
Well, if I am the only person with this opinion, then you are right. I should stop complaining and burn a CD. However, I suspect that I am not alone in wanting a more stable cygwin.It will be hard to prove my case, as the folks that read this list and post to it, tend to be more developer

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Original Message: - From: Max Bowsher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:07:16 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cygwin Release process William A. Hoffman wrote: So, from the feedback I am getting, it really boils down to a not enough people

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Collins
Bill, IMO you are missing a key point: Cygwin is volunteer maintained. No release manager volunteer, and no stable release maintainer (who will maintain stable packages after they become stale) have stepped up. The *only* way you will get a stable release is to: 1) offer to take on all the

Re: cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread Christopher Faylor
well aware of the fact that the Cygwin release process would be different from Red Hat or Debian when we instituted the current policy. I don't see anything particularly broken in the process now* so I'm not going to be making any fixes. However, I'll support someone with disk space if they want

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread William A. Hoffman
I realize it is a volunteer effort, and a good one, it really makes windows much nicer to work with! I am not demanding or expecting anything. I am only trying to start a discussion that could lead to a possible solution. I think that this could be done without much effort, or the work of a

RE: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread Scott Prive
of setup.exe are. You might find discussion along these lines in the archives. Hope this helps! Scott -Original Message- From: William A. Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 3:24 PM To: Max Bowsher; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cygwin Release

Re: cygwin Release process

2003-01-27 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 04:54:25PM -0500, Scott Prive wrote: William, The ntsec problem by all accounts was a one-time switch that burned a lot of people. It seems like a great feature (not completely using it myself), and when I upgraded to it I had NO idea of the impending change. I should

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-24 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 04:39:21PM -0500, William A. Hoffman wrote: Is there any way to control the versions of programs you get from setup.exe? The cygwin environment is different on almost every machine at our company. It all depends on when you ran the setup program.I have two

Re: cygwin Release process

2003-01-24 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 10:55:54AM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 04:39:21PM -0500, William A. Hoffman wrote: Is there any way to control the versions of programs you get from setup.exe? The cygwin environment is different on almost every machine at our company. It all

RE: cygwin Release process

2003-01-24 Thread Steve Fairbairn
How cliquey? I reckon us outsiders should make a mass exodus if Christopher *in-most-mother-esq-tone-I-can-manage* fails to explain himself. -Original Message- From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 January 2003 15:34 Actually, in a way, I guess I did say it. cgf

Re: cygwin Release process

2003-01-24 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 03:39:46PM -, Steve Fairbairn wrote: How cliquey? I reckon us outsiders should make a mass exodus if Christopher *in-most-mother-esq-tone-I-can-manage* fails to explain himself. It's simple: Corinna works for me. cgf -- Unsubscribe info:

Cygwin Release process

2003-01-23 Thread William A. Hoffman
Is there any way to control the versions of programs you get from setup.exe? The cygwin environment is different on almost every machine at our company. It all depends on when you ran the setup program.I have two suggestions: 1. It would be nice, if there was a cygwin-stable that had a list

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-23 Thread Randall R Schulz
William, At 13:39 2003-01-23, William A. Hoffman wrote: Is there any way to control the versions of programs you get from setup.exe? The cygwin environment is different on almost every machine at our company. It all depends on when you ran the setup program.I have two suggestions: The

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-23 Thread Max Bowsher
Randall R Schulz wrote: 2. Failing that, it would be nice if the setup program had a button that set all the values to Keep. The problem is that if I want a new package X, I have to click 20 other packages to Keep, or risk an update of everything. There should be a way to update one single

Re: Cygwin Release process

2003-01-23 Thread Randall R Schulz
Max, At 14:10 2003-01-23, Max Bowsher wrote: Randall R Schulz wrote: 2. Failing that, it would be nice if the setup program had a button that set all the values to Keep. The problem is that if I want a new package X, I have to click 20 other packages to Keep, or risk an update of