Re: GPLv3

2007-07-04 Thread Eric Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Corinna Vinschen on 7/2/2007 12:04 PM: In the meantime, as long as the GPLv3 is not OSI certified (which shouldn't take long), Red Hat will not enforce the GPLv2-only state of Cygwin on the back of GPLv3 packages. So, tar 1.18 can

Re: GPLv3

2007-07-03 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 2 15:09, Yaakov (Cygwin Ports) wrote: Corinna Vinschen wrote: There are no short-term plans to change the license of Cygwin, rather we just wait until the OSI certifies the GPLv3 as open source license according to the definitions. As Brian already noted, as soon as the OSI

RE: GPLv3

2007-07-03 Thread Dave Korn
On 03 July 2007 08:09, Corinna Vinschen wrote: And there I was trying to TITTLL the thread. Oh well, anyone for hippos? ;-) BTW, I just noticed the link to the OSI site is 404. It could be that it's one of those sites that just don't work if you disable scripts and cookies, but it's

Re: GPLv3

2007-07-03 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 3 18:43, Dave Korn wrote: BTW, I just noticed the link to the OSI site is 404. It could be that it's one of those sites that just don't work if you disable scripts and cookies, but it's more likely the link is just out-of-date. Fixed. Thanks for the hint, Corinna -- Corinna

Re: GPLv3

2007-07-02 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 1 08:16, Eric Blake wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Brian Dessent on 6/30/2007 10:12 PM: So, what is the consensus - am I allowed to upload tar 1.18, or is cygwin forevermore stuck at tar 1.17 as the last GPLv2 release, because of the fact that

Re: GPLv3

2007-07-02 Thread Andrew Schulman
I'll try to get legal advice about Cygwin and the GPLv3. All this licensing stuff gives me headaches. I gave up trying to understand it long ago. Corinna, whenever you or someone else gets legal advice about this, I'd appreciate it if a policy could be posted stating as clearly as possible

Re: GPLv3

2007-07-02 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 2 10:40, Andrew Schulman wrote: I'll try to get legal advice about Cygwin and the GPLv3. All this licensing stuff gives me headaches. I gave up trying to understand it long ago. Unfortunately the wording of the GPLv3 got rather less easy to understand than the GPLv2. I can see

Re: GPLv3

2007-07-02 Thread Andrew Schulman
In the meantime, treat the http://cygwin.com/licensing.html page as state of the art, especially the open source permission clause. Thanks.

Re: GPLv3

2007-07-02 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 2 11:28, Andrew Schulman wrote: In the meantime, treat the http://cygwin.com/licensing.html page as state of the art, especially the open source permission clause. Thanks. Ok, I got legal advice now. Linking a GPLv3 application against a GPLv2-only library is not ok because this

Re: GPLv3

2007-07-02 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin Ports)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Corinna Vinschen wrote: There are no short-term plans to change the license of Cygwin, rather we just wait until the OSI certifies the GPLv3 as open source license according to the definitions. As Brian already noted, as soon as the OSI

Re: GPLv3

2007-07-02 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin Ports)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Corinna Vinschen wrote: Red Hat will not enforce the GPLv2-only state of Cygwin on the back of GPLv3 packages. So, tar 1.18 can stay in the distro if Eric trusts Red Hat not to sue him. I'll trust Red Hat much more than other companies that

RE: GPLv3

2007-07-02 Thread Dave Korn
On 02 July 2007 21:10, Yaakov (Cygwin Ports) wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Corinna Vinschen wrote: There are no short-term plans to change the license of Cygwin, rather we just wait until the OSI certifies the GPLv3 as open source license according to the

Re: GPLv3

2007-07-01 Thread Eric Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Brian Dessent on 6/30/2007 10:12 PM: So, what is the consensus - am I allowed to upload tar 1.18, or is cygwin forevermore stuck at tar 1.17 as the last GPLv2 release, because of the fact that building an image of tar 1.18 linked

Re: GPLv3

2007-07-01 Thread Eric Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Eric Blake on 7/1/2007 8:16 AM: Thanks for the reminder about the exception clause. Since packaging tar 1.18 does not modify the sources to cygwin1.dll, I agree that the GPLv2 exception offered by cygwin is applicable here. I don't

Re: GPLv3

2007-06-30 Thread Brian Dessent
Eric Blake wrote: tar 1.18 was just released, and is one of the first GNU packages that requires GPLv3 or later. Meanwhile, cygwin is explicit in requiring exactly GPLv2. According to the GPLv3 FAQ, http://gplv3.fsf.org/dd3-faq, it is NOT okay for a GPLv3 program to link against a