Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2006-01-28 Thread Brian Dessent
Corinna Vinschen wrote: Every Maintainer Can (And Should) Review Packages! Every Maintainer Can Vote! I'd be happy to review and vote but I haven't

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2006-01-28 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jan 28 00:01, Brian Dessent wrote: Corinna Vinschen wrote: Every Maintainer Can (And Should) Review Packages! Every Maintainer Can Vote!

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2006-01-28 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jan 27 13:35, Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports) wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lapo Luchini wrote: Yes, I guess Debian unstable doesn't qualify (I think I read something about that somewhere on cygwin.com, I'm not quite sure where... ;-)). But (now) it's in Debian

Re: upstream update nitify [Was: maybe-ITP: bsdiff]

2006-01-28 Thread John Morrison
On Fri, January 27, 2006 11:16 pm, Lapo Luchini wrote: John Morrison wrote: Freshmeat do a number of RSS feeds see http://freshmeat.net/backend/ for the list. Mhh, neat. Problem is: freshmeat is not /always/ updated. How about http://distrowatch.com/news/dwp.xml? or scraping

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2006-01-28 Thread Lapo Luchini
Brian Dessent wrote: So, let's not worry so much about the preapproved if in linux thing and just get on with the packages. You're right! Here they are: (you can safely recurse: I removed the old version from there) http://cyberx.lapo.it/cygwin/bsdiff/ You can use

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2006-01-27 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jan 26 22:21, Lapo Luchini wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote, on 2005-05-16: On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 06:45:57PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Also, AFAICS, that's not about distribution, but it's about linking against the Cygwin DLL. If you do that with an application which has a

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2006-01-27 Thread Lapo Luchini
Corinna Vinschen wrote: I guess I can finally produce a legally acceptable package? ;-) Yes, but you need 5 votes. Yes, I guess Debian unstable doesn't qualify (I think I read something about that somewhere on cygwin.com, I'm not quite sure where... ;-)). Well, there is another

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2006-01-27 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 02:21:44PM +0100, Lapo Luchini wrote: What do you (all) think about it? Many years ago, I wrote a perl script which queried ftp sites looking for new versions of packages. It required constant tinkering since the sites came and went and the directories on the sites were

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2006-01-27 Thread John Morrison
On Fri, January 27, 2006 4:13 pm, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 02:21:44PM +0100, Lapo Luchini wrote: What do you (all) think about it? Many years ago, I wrote a perl script which queried ftp sites looking for new versions of packages. It required constant tinkering since

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2006-01-27 Thread Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lapo Luchini wrote: Yes, I guess Debian unstable doesn't qualify (I think I read something about that somewhere on cygwin.com, I'm not quite sure where... ;-)). But (now) it's in Debian testing as well:

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2006-01-26 Thread Lapo Luchini
Christopher Faylor wrote, on 2005-05-16: On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 06:45:57PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Also, AFAICS, that's not about distribution, but it's about linking against the Cygwin DLL. If you do that with an application which has a non-approved OSS license, you're infringing the

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-06-05 Thread Tacvek
As far as I can see, BSDPL is an Open Source license under the definition referenced, so the exception should apply. (I gave up arguing with the opensource.org people, but they never came up with any argument for why BSDPL didn't qualify -- the worst they could say was that it was poorly

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-06-03 Thread Lapo Luchini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Corinna Vinschen wrote: It's a bit dangerous to rely on the author saying but I didn't mean it that way. Probably he would have to change the license to include some explicit wording about this situation. Asking can't hurt, though. Here goes

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-05-28 Thread Tacvek
Hi All... Could it be distributed in kit form? That is, could it require the toold to build it, and be built in the postinstall script? Thanks, IANAL, but copyright licenses are not intended to restrict what you do privately. Since nobody is distributing the resulting binary, this is

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-05-18 Thread Lapo Luchini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Reini Urban wrote: BTW: I prefer the version linked to libbz2, not calling /usr/bin/bzip2 For performance and convenience. See the mingw sources at http://www.pokorra.de/coding/bsdiff.html Changing the program from being dual-threaded and using

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-05-18 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On May 18 10:56, Lapo Luchini wrote: I wonder why people that does interesting program usually put them under strange restrictive licenses... (e.g. qmail, bsdiff, and many others...) This one's not in our OLOCA but you get the idea: TJM. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please,

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-05-18 Thread Lapo Luchini
Corinna Vinschen wrote: This one's not in our OLOCA but you get the idea: TJM. Uhm... not in OLOCA, not in wtf, not in acronymfinder.com... I really have no idea about TJM 0_o Truth (is) Just Mean? Tell Junior Millman? Transfer Juxtaposition Modifier? Lapo -- Lapo Luchini [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-05-18 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Wed, 18 May 2005, Lapo Luchini wrote: Corinna Vinschen wrote: This one's not in our OLOCA but you get the idea: TJM. Uhm... not in OLOCA, not in wtf, not in acronymfinder.com... I really have no idea about TJM 0_o Testing Joke Memorization Too Jumpin' Much Try Joking More Truth (is)

RE: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-05-18 Thread Robb, Sam
Corinna Vinschen wrote: This one's not in our OLOCA but you get the idea: TJM. Uhm... not in OLOCA, not in wtf, not in acronymfinder.com... I really have no idea about TJM 0_o Truth (is) Just Mean? Tell Junior Millman? Transfer Juxtaposition Modifier? Lapo Hah! Like you'll get

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-05-17 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On May 17 00:15, Lapo Luchini wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote: I've just read the BSDPL finally and I see that it tries to impose itself on any distribution which contains a binary which is licensed in this fashion. So, as was hinted at earlier in the thread, this makes the license viral.

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-05-17 Thread Tacvek
It's hard to see the BSDPL as an open-source license, since only one level of branching from the one true authorized source is allowed: This only applies to commercial distribution. AFAICT this is some sort of weird ANTI-GPL license, which works is much the same way as the GPL, except also

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-05-17 Thread Reini Urban
Lapo Luchini schrieb: Compiles fine on Cygwin. BTW: I prefer the version linked to libbz2, not calling /usr/bin/bzip2 For performance and convenience. See the mingw sources at http://www.pokorra.de/coding/bsdiff.html Links: 1. http://www.daemonology.net/bsdiff/ 2.

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-05-17 Thread Karl M
Hi All... Could it be distributed in kit form? That is, could it require the toold to build it, and be built in the postinstall script? Thanks, ...Karl From: Tacvek Subject: Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 15:48:19 -0400 It's hard to see the BSDPL as an open-source license, since

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-05-16 Thread Lapo Luchini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tacvek wrote: the problem: The OSF was unable to decide if the BSDPL is OSD complient. It looks like they may have concluded it was not. See the thread at http://www.mail-archive.com/license-discuss@opensource.org/msg04670.html Reading that

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-05-16 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 01:04:54PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On May 16 10:34, Lapo Luchini wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tacvek wrote: the problem: The OSF was unable to decide if the BSDPL is OSD complient. It looks like they may have concluded it was not.

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-05-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On May 16 10:18, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 01:04:54PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: If in doubt, don't put it into the distro. There is doubt, apparently. I haven't been reading this too closely but I don't see why there's a problem. If the sources are being

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-05-16 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 05:29:16PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On May 16 10:18, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 01:04:54PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: If in doubt, don't put it into the distro. There is doubt, apparently. I haven't been reading this too closely but I

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-05-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On May 16 12:26, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 06:10:03PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On May 16 11:56, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 05:29:16PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On May 16 10:18, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Mon, May 16, 2005 at

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-05-16 Thread Barry Kelly
On 5/16/05, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Also, AFAICS, that's not about distribution, but it's about linking against the Cygwin DLL. If you do that with an application which has a non-approved OSS license, you're infringing the Cygwin license if you don't GPL the code. But if you GPL the code,

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-05-16 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Mon, 16 May 2005, Lapo Luchini wrote: Max Bowsher wrote: Cygwin-specific README: gcc is not a runtime requirement. I assume it was supposed to be a build requirement. Of course ^_^ I've taken to saying (basic development packages) in the packages I maintain, to mean such obvious

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-05-16 Thread Lapo Luchini
Christopher Faylor wrote: I've just read the BSDPL finally and I see that it tries to impose itself on any distribution which contains a binary which is licensed in this fashion. So, as was hinted at earlier in the thread, this makes the license viral. So, you're right. We can't use it since

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-05-15 Thread Max Bowsher
Lapo Luchini wrote: 710e30c8f8e141d78b02d72a21387409 http://www.lapo.it/cygwin/bsdiff-4.2-1-src.tar.bz2 eb7a6d19536b1f18ce9b836bda10a201 http://www.lapo.it/cygwin/bsdiff-4.2-1.tar.bz2 d4580c5ab21b042dc3e4f3897abd7a37 http://www.lapo.it/cygwin/bsdiff-setup.hint sdesc: tools for building and

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-05-15 Thread Tacvek
I don't see a problem with this license. It certainly doesn't make any problems as part of a Cygwin distro, as long as you (the maintainer) adhere to the BSDPL when tweaking the package for the Cygwin distro. The Clause: In accordance with section 10 of the GPL, Red Hat permits programs whose

maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-05-14 Thread Lapo Luchini
Introduction straight from official home page[1] *bsdiff* and *bspatch* are tools for building and applying patches to binary files. By using suffix sorting (specifically, Larsson and Sadakane's qsufsort http://www.cs.lth.se/Research/Algorithms/Papers/jesper5.ps) and taking advantage of how

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-05-14 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On May 14 15:54, Lapo Luchini wrote: Introduction straight from official home page[1] [...] Compiles fine on Cygwin. Question is: IANAL, and I don't know if his BSDPL[2] license would be a problem or not. Is it? 2. http://web.comlab.ox.ac.uk/oucl/work/colin.percival/source/BSDPL.html I

Re: maybe-ITP: bsdiff

2005-05-14 Thread Lapo Luchini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Corinna Vinschen wrote: I don't see a problem with this license. Then... 710e30c8f8e141d78b02d72a21387409 http://www.lapo.it/cygwin/bsdiff-4.2-1-src.tar.bz2 eb7a6d19536b1f18ce9b836bda10a201 http://www.lapo.it/cygwin/bsdiff-4.2-1.tar.bz2