Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2012-01-10 Thread Peter A. Castro
On Sat, 7 Jan 2012, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: Still outstanding are: * python[-tkinter] (Jason Tishler) * suite3270 [tcl3270] (Peter A. Castro) In order to provide a seamless transition for users, your packages must be rebuilt for the new Tcl/Tk per my original instructions[1]. Please let us

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2012-01-10 Thread Jason Tishler
Yaakov, On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 09:47:05PM -0600, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: Still outstanding are: * python[-tkinter] (Jason Tishler) * suite3270 [tcl3270] (Peter A. Castro) In order to provide a seamless transition for users, your packages must be rebuilt for the new Tcl/Tk per my

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2012-01-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Yaakov (Cygwin/X), le Sun 04 Dec 2011 23:32:14 -0600, a écrit : Thank you to Dr. Volker Zell for rebuilding his packages. That still leaves: * brltty [tcl-brlapi] (Samuel Thibault) * python[-tkinter] (Jason Tishler) * suite3270 [tcl3270] (Peter A. Castro) In order to provide a

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2012-01-07 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On Sun, 2012-01-08 at 02:57 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: Here is the updated build, sorry it took so long. http://brl.thefreecat.org/brltty/cygwin/brltty-4.2-3-src.tar.bz2 http://brl.thefreecat.org/brltty/cygwin/brltty-4.2-3.tar.bz2

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2012-01-07 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
Still outstanding are: * python[-tkinter] (Jason Tishler) * suite3270 [tcl3270] (Peter A. Castro) In order to provide a seamless transition for users, your packages must be rebuilt for the new Tcl/Tk per my original instructions[1]. Please let us know when you will be able to do this, or if

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-12-05 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 01:25:16AM -0500, Charles Wilson wrote: [SNIP] msys-tcl seems ok so far but msys-tcl-tk: it's an unholy mess, really. :-( If Yaakov's packaging works correctly under Cygwin (and I'd be astonished if it didn't) that's all that we care about in Cygwin mailing lists.

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-12-04 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 18:45 -0500, Charles Wilson wrote: Yaakov -- the installed tclConfig.sh and tkConfig.sh files include stuff like this: TCL_DEFS='-DPACKAGE_NAME=\tcl\ -DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\tcl\ -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\8.5\ -DPACKAGE_STRING=\tcl\ 8.5\ -DPACKAGE_BUGREPORT=\\ -DPACKAGE_URL=\\

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-12-04 Thread Charles Wilson
On 12/4/2011 7:33 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 18:45 -0500, Charles Wilson wrote: Yaakov -- the installed tclConfig.sh and tkConfig.sh files include stuff like this: TCL_DEFS='-DPACKAGE_NAME=\tcl\ -DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\tcl\ -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\8.5\ -DPACKAGE_STRING=\tcl\ 8.5\

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-12-04 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 21:05 -0500, Charles Wilson wrote: I found this while building (msys) versions of tcl and tk, (loosely) based on your cygports. However...I modified tk's configure.in to do a proper AC_INIT. So now, tk defines PACKAGE_NAME as tk -- but inherits tclConfig's setting of

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-12-04 Thread Charles Wilson
On 12/4/2011 10:03 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 21:05 -0500, Charles Wilson wrote: I found this while building (msys) versions of tcl and tk, (loosely) based on your cygports. However...I modified tk's configure.in to do a proper AC_INIT. So now, tk defines PACKAGE_NAME

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-12-03 Thread Charles Wilson
Yaakov -- the installed tclConfig.sh and tkConfig.sh files include stuff like this: TCL_DEFS='-DPACKAGE_NAME=\tcl\ -DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\tcl\ -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\8.5\ -DPACKAGE_STRING=\tcl\ 8.5\ -DPACKAGE_BUGREPORT=\\ -DPACKAGE_URL=\\ -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 This causes warnings (PACKAGE_NAME

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-11-10 Thread Dr. Volker Zell
On 10.11.2011 03:37, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 03:00 +0100, Dr. Volker Zell wrote: What do you mean with arent't versioned ? The package names themselves: I see, a stupid packaging error on my side. tar -tvjf db-4.5.20.2-3/dist/db/libdb/libdb-4.5.20.2-3.tar.bz2 tar

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-11-09 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 02:18 +0100, Dr. Volker Zell wrote: I obsoleted the following packages: db-2.7.7 db-3.1.17 db-3.3.11.2 db-4.0.14 db-4.1.25.3 db-4.2.52.5 db-4.3.29.1 db-4.4.20.4 IMO there is no reason to keep these old versions, as nothing in the distro

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-11-09 Thread Dr. Volker Zell
On 10.11.2011 00:51, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 02:18 +0100, Dr. Volker Zell wrote: I obsoleted the following packages: db-2.7.7 db-3.1.17 db-3.3.11.2 db-4.0.14 db-4.1.25.3 db-4.2.52.5 db-4.3.29.1 db-4.4.20.4 IMO there is no reason to keep

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-11-09 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 03:00 +0100, Dr. Volker Zell wrote: What do you mean with arent't versioned ? The package names themselves: tar -tvjf db-4.5.20.2-3/dist/db/libdb/libdb-4.5.20.2-3.tar.bz2 tar -tvjf db-4.8.30-1/dist/db/libdb/libdb-4.8.30-1.tar.bz2 The libdb packages must be libdb4.5 and

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-11-07 Thread Dr. Volker Zell
On 26.10.2011 23:02, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: cgf has asked me to take over tcl/tk/expect maintainership and transition the distro from our Win32/GDI hybrid 8.4 to the *NIX/X11 8.5 currently in Ports. The following packages will need an IMMEDIATE rebuild: * db [tcl-dbX.Y] (Dr. Volker Zell) new

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-31 Thread Charles Wilson
On 10/30/2011 8:44 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: Please don't. ... This is just the beginning. Mixing GDI and X11 just doesn't work, and since X11 is used for all other GUIs on Cygwin, so must Tk. My suggestion, for those who wanted this, was to build the entire tcl/tk(GDI) stack with a

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-31 Thread Charles Wilson
On 10/31/2011 7:39 PM, Charles Wilson wrote: On 10/30/2011 8:44 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: Please don't. ... This is just the beginning. Mixing GDI and X11 just doesn't work, and since X11 is used for all other GUIs on Cygwin, so must Tk. My suggestion, for those who wanted this, was to

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-30 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On Sun, 2011-10-30 at 00:53 -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 06:31:59PM -0500, Reini Urban wrote: On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Charles Wilson wrote: in the gitk thread above, Reini Urban, the cygwin perl and parrot maintainer, was vehemently against switching

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-29 Thread Reini Urban
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Charles Wilson wrote: Here are some of the previous discussions: Interest in native Tcl/Tk/Expect/Itcl/... packages? http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-10/msg00316.html Does anyone use insight on cygwin?

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-29 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 06:31:59PM -0500, Reini Urban wrote: On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Charles Wilson wrote: Here are some of the previous discussions: Interest in native Tcl/Tk/Expect/Itcl/... packages? http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-10/msg00316.html Does anyone use insight on

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-28 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Oct 27 23:54, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:11:03PM -0500, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: On Thu, 2011-10-27 at 10:07 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Cool, thanks! You don't want to take over ruby maintainership as well, do you? :} Would your adding getgrouplist(3) be

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-28 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 09:56 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:11:03PM -0500, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: On Thu, 2011-10-27 at 10:07 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Cool, thanks! You don't want to take over ruby maintainership as well, do you? :} Would your

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-28 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Oct 28 03:20, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 09:56 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:11:03PM -0500, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: On Thu, 2011-10-27 at 10:07 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Cool, thanks! You don't want to take over ruby

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-28 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Oct 28 10:48, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Oct 28 03:20, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 09:56 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:11:03PM -0500, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: On Thu, 2011-10-27 at 10:07 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Cool, thanks!

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-27 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Oct 26 19:42, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 16:02 -0500, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: * ruby (Corinna Vinschen) new requires: tcl tcl-tk notes: I suggest making a make separate ruby-tcltk package due to the additional deps. Patches for 1.8.7-p352 attached. Cool,

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-27 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:11:03PM -0500, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: On Thu, 2011-10-27 at 10:07 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Cool, thanks! You don't want to take over ruby maintainership as well, do you? :} Would your adding getgrouplist(3) be a fair price? :-)

ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-26 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
cgf has asked me to take over tcl/tk/expect maintainership and transition the distro from our Win32/GDI hybrid 8.4 to the *NIX/X11 8.5 currently in Ports. ITA: expect tcltk (to be obsoleted) ITP (in place of tcltk): tcl tcl-itcl tcl-itk tcl-iwidgets tcl-tix tcl-tk (I have more extensions in

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-26 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 16:02 -0500, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: The following packages will need an IMMEDIATE rebuild: Oops, I missed one: * brltty [tcl-brlapi] (Samuel Thibault) new requires: tcl Yaakov

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-26 Thread Marco Atzeri
On 10/26/2011 11:06 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 16:02 -0500, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: The following packages will need an IMMEDIATE rebuild: Oops, I missed one: * brltty [tcl-brlapi] (Samuel Thibault) new requires: tcl Yaakov stupid question: should not be easier

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-26 Thread Marco Atzeri
On 10/26/2011 11:24 PM, Marco Atzeri wrote: stupid question: should not be easier for testing the new packages and upgrading the other ones that you put them in the distro as experimental ? I know that the maintainers you mentioned have no problems but eventually there are other people that

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-26 Thread Cary R.
) Subject: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition cgf has asked me to take over tcl/tk/expect maintainership and transition the distro from our Win32/GDI hybrid 8.4 to the *NIX/X11 8.5 currently in Ports. SNIP * git [gitg/git-gui] (Eric Blake) new requires: tcl tcl-tk notes: need to ditch the cygpath line

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-26 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 02:53:48PM -0700, Cary R. wrote: Yaakov, If I'm understanding this correctly once this change has been pushed we will be required to start an X server beforerunning gitk. As someone who uses git and gitk all the time having to start the X server to run gitk is a pain. I

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-26 Thread Charles Wilson
On 10/26/2011 5:53 PM, Cary R. wrote: If I'm understanding this correctly once this change has been pushed we will be required to start an X server beforerunning gitk. Yes. As someone who uses git and gitk all the time having to start the X server to run gitk is a pain. I haven't checked

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-26 Thread Cary R.
wrote Subject: Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 02:53:48PM -0700, Cary R. wrote: Yaakov, If I'm understanding this correctly once this change has been pushed we will be required to start an X server beforerunning gitk. As someone who uses git and gitk all the time having

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-26 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 03:59:18PM -0700, Cary R. wrote: I already spend most of my free time working on an open source Verilog simulator, so unfortunately, no, I'm not going to volunteer. I understand the reason for switching, but be prepared for some serious user complaints once this is

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-26 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 16:02 -0500, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: * ruby (Corinna Vinschen) new requires: tcl tcl-tk notes: I suggest making a make separate ruby-tcltk package due to the additional deps. Patches for 1.8.7-p352 attached. Yaakov libuuid from util-linux hides the w32api libuuid.a,

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-26 Thread Cary R.
Subject: Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 03:59:18PM -0700, Cary R. wrote: I already spend most of my free time working on an open source Verilog simulator, so unfortunately, no, I'm not going to volunteer.  I understand the reason for switching, but be prepared for some serious

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-26 Thread Dave Korn
On 26/10/2011 22:02, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: cgf has asked me to take over tcl/tk/expect maintainership and transition the distro from our Win32/GDI hybrid 8.4 to the *NIX/X11 8.5 currently in Ports. To anyone feeling apprehensive, I've been using the 'ports versions of tcl and expect for a

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-26 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 02:31:28AM +0100, Dave Korn wrote: On 26/10/2011 22:02, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: cgf has asked me to take over tcl/tk/expect maintainership and transition the distro from our Win32/GDI hybrid 8.4 to the *NIX/X11 8.5 currently in Ports. To anyone feeling apprehensive,

Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition

2011-10-26 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 06:26:34PM -0700, Cary R. wrote: FYI expect is what drew me to Tcl/Tk a very long time ago. Trust that I understand the need to be using a more modern version of Tcl/Tk. I'm just whining that we're going to loose the GDI support. Since I'm not going to do anything to help