Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-21 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 09:40:46AM -0400, Andr? Bleau wrote: Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports) wrote: ... FIRST, the following two packages *must* be rearranged BEFORE the X11R7.0 upgrade, in order not to cause collisions: opengl: a) /usr/bin/glui-examples is non-FHS-compiliant; this should be moved to

Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-21 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 11:14:49AM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 09:40:46AM -0400, Andr? Bleau wrote: Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports) wrote: ... FIRST, the following two packages *must* be rearranged BEFORE the X11R7.0 upgrade, in order not to cause collisions: opengl: a)

Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-21 Thread André Bleau
Christopher Faylor wrote: ... Yes, you can email these to me, if you want, if when we standardize on Modular X11: cgf+cygwin-apps AT cgf DOT com Sigh. Why am I always smarter two seconds after hitting 'y'? cgf+cygwin-apps AT cgf DOT cx cgf OK, I will send you an updated package by the

Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-20 Thread Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports)
Charles Wilson wrote: No, I think you should leave it as is. Your 'cxpm.exe' and 'sxpm.exe' should be the official ones; my cxpm-noX is just a hey, cygXpm-noX4.dll kinda works maybe indicator. OK, that's up to you. You'll just need to make xpm-nox-4.2.0-5 current before modular X11 is

Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-20 Thread Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports)
Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports) wrote: FIRST, the following two packages *must* be rearranged BEFORE the X11R7.0 upgrade, in order not to cause collisions: xpm-nox has already been taken care of by Charles Wilson, that leaves opengl, whose maintainer AFAICS is André Bleau. SECOND, the following

Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 09:20:08PM -0500, Gary R. (Mr. Predictable) Van Sickle wrote: From: Christopher Faylor Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:17 PM To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com Subject: Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read) On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 08:08:31PM +0200, Hannu

Blobthrowers thread (RE: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read))

2006-04-19 Thread Hannu E K Nevalainen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 09:20:08PM -0500, Gary R. (Mr. Predictable) Van Sickle wrote: From: Christopher Faylor Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:17 PM To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com Subject: Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read) On Tue, Apr 18, 2006

Re: Blobthrowers thread (RE: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read))

2006-04-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 08:25:42PM +0200, Hannu E K Nevalainen wrote: CGF, there you have my paranoia - and BTW; did you see that smiley? It was a chance for you to take that note less seriously than you did. Think about it; wouldn't that have been a more pleasent road to travel? First warning:

RE: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-19 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read) On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 08:08:31PM +0200, Hannu E K Nevalainen wrote: Sorry for writing in a shorthand style. Please fill in the missing words of type please... And as a precaution; in case CGF happens to read this and finds anything

Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 09:24:38PM -0500, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: [Followups set to the more-appropriate cygwin-talk@ list] Which is precisely what I'd already requested and is something that you consistently ignore. So long, Gar' old pal. cygwin-apps will miss you. cgf

Apologies (was Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read))

2006-04-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
I apologize for letting the recent non-technical discussion get out of hand. I hope that it hasn't been damaged by the recent idiocy (and I do include myself under that umbrella). I really do find this discussion interesting and I'm looking forward to the day when Yaakov takes over the Cygwin/X

Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-18 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 16 21:19, Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports) wrote: I have been working on packaging the new, modular X11R7.0 for Cygwin for the last few weeks. [...] So you're actually volunteering yourself as the new Cygwin/X maintainer? This would be worth a couple of gold stars. Are you also willing to

RE: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-18 Thread Hannu E K Nevalainen
Sorry for writing in a shorthand style. Please fill in the missing words of type please... And as a precaution; in case CGF happens to read this and finds anything upsetting: No personal offense intended! ;-) Remember; I would NOT be here writing this unless I lkied cygwin a lot. In the

Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-18 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 08:08:31PM +0200, Hannu E K Nevalainen wrote: Sorry for writing in a shorthand style. Please fill in the missing words of type please... And as a precaution; in case CGF happens to read this and finds anything upsetting: No personal offense intended! ;-) Remember; I

Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-18 Thread Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports)
Charles Wilson wrote: But after 5 years, I think we can get rid of it. BTW, my version of sxpm DOES use my cygXpm-X4.dll; without using libW11 or something similar, sxpm can't work in non-X mode. I'll just remove it from xpm-nox. cxpm uses noX, so I'll rename my version as you suggested.

Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-18 Thread Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports)
Corinna Vinschen wrote: So you're actually volunteering yourself as the new Cygwin/X maintainer? I'm working on it, but I'm not fully committing until everything is actually working and packaged. Are you also willing to maintain the web page at http://xfree.cygwin.com/ and to be a bit

Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-18 Thread Charles Wilson
Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports) wrote: Charles Wilson wrote: But after 5 years, I think we can get rid of it. BTW, my version of sxpm DOES use my cygXpm-X4.dll; without using libW11 or something similar, sxpm can't work in non-X mode. I'll just remove it from xpm-nox. cxpm uses noX, so I'll rename

RE: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-18 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
From: Christopher Faylor Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:17 PM To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com Subject: Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read) On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 08:08:31PM +0200, Hannu E K Nevalainen wrote: Sorry for writing in a shorthand style. Please fill

Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-17 Thread James R. Phillips
--- Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports) wrote: I have been working on packaging the new, modular X11R7.0 for Cygwin for the last few weeks. Mega-gold-stars for you! SECOND, the following packages install into /usr/X11R6. These should be repackaged into /usr ASAP after the X11R7.0 upgrade: [...]

Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-17 Thread James R. Phillips
--- James R. Phillips wrote: --- Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports) wrote: I have been working on packaging the new, modular X11R7.0 for Cygwin for the last few weeks. Mega-gold-stars for you! SECOND, the following packages install into /usr/X11R6. These should be repackaged into /usr

Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-17 Thread Igor Peshansky
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006, James R. Phillips wrote: --- James R. Phillips wrote: --- Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports) wrote: I have been working on packaging the new, modular X11R7.0 for Cygwin for the last few weeks. Mega-gold-stars for you! SECOND, the following packages install into

Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-17 Thread Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports)
Igor Peshansky wrote: Not only that, it will affect many users' shortcuts. For example, many users have a shortcut to xterm that says something like c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\run /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm [options] Some have quite a few. If we go through with this change, we'll need to find a good

Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-17 Thread James R. Phillips
--- Igor Peshansky wrote: X is part of the base Debian install. It is not part of the base Cygwin install. Um, that is not true. It is still perfectly possible to setup a debian install without any X libraries. But of course you couldn't install ghostscript. Unless the set of X

Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-17 Thread Igor Peshansky
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006, James R. Phillips wrote: --- Igor Peshansky wrote: X is part of the base Debian install. It is not part of the base Cygwin install. Um, that is not true. It is still perfectly possible to setup a debian install without any X libraries. But of course you couldn't

Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-17 Thread Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports)
James R. Phillips wrote: --- Igor Peshansky wrote: Unless the set of X libraries is *really* small, it would make sense to have a non-X version of ghostscript. OK, we'll have to wait and see on that. Otherwise, I guess we have consensus in principle on a method to carry both versions

Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-17 Thread Charles Wilson
Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports) wrote: Igor Peshansky wrote: Yes. [the] purpose [of nonX gs] is the same as xpm-nox -- to allow rendering postscript to a non-screen device in batch mode. People who don't have X may still want to do this, for example to convert postscript to PDF. Since X11 will

Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-17 Thread Charles Wilson
Charles Wilson wrote: But after 5 years, I think we can get rid of it. BTW, my version of sxpm DOES use my cygXpm-X4.dll; without using libW11 or something similar, sxpm can't work in non-X mode. I'll just remove it from xpm-nox. cxpm uses noX, so I'll rename my version as you suggested.

HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-16 Thread Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports)
I have been working on packaging the new, modular X11R7.0 for Cygwin for the last few weeks. There's still a few dozen packages left, but the time has come to deal with handling some of the issues involved in this transition. For those unaware of X11 internals, the major changes included in

Re: HEADS-UP: Modular X11 (ALL maintainers, please read)

2006-04-16 Thread Igor Peshansky
On Sun, 16 Apr 2006, Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports) wrote: I have been working on packaging the new, modular X11R7.0 for Cygwin for the last few weeks. There's still a few dozen packages left, but the time has come to deal with handling some of the issues involved in this transition. Good job!